What is the Best Stem Splitter Separation VST

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@Unders 4 ай бұрын

Tools DistroKid - distrokid.com/vip/unders Lalal.ai - www.lalal.ai/?fp_ref=scott38 FL Studio - www.image-line.com/fl-studio/ Logic Pro - www.apple.com/uk/logic-pro/ RX 11 - www.izotope.com/en/products/rx.html

@dropdedgothish 10 күн бұрын

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@Unders 9 күн бұрын

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@JKVisFX 4 күн бұрын

I used the Logic Pro 11 stem splitter for the first time a few days ago. For my use, it was quite good enough. I use stem splitting to isolate different instruments to use as a way of much more easily extracting midi sequences instead of using the separated stems in the mix. For one, it is a really great way to do drum replacement. What I am really looking forward to is the day that an AI driven stem splitter can separate out each and every instrument sound in a mix. To tackle really dense, complex mixes of primarily synthesizer tones will likely prove to be the most difficult to do.

@Unders 4 күн бұрын

Man for sampling. its game changing. Thing you wouldnt touch before are now viable to pull apart and make something with. An i love that.

@JKVisFX 4 күн бұрын

@@Unders True dat!

@crtune 6 күн бұрын

Kind of a shame we don't see Cubase and Spectralayers thrown in here too. I gather that Spectralayers does far more than just stem separating, but from other comparison videos it appears this Steinberg tool does a heck of a job on this kind of thing, and had the benefit that one can highlight stray sound (even the best of these tools makes tiny "mistakes") and move them over to an adjacent layer (the strategy would be to identify the stray sound, say a stray "synth", then move the synth layer up just below your working layer, then highlight the stray synth, and move to the next layer which is now "synth"), if you do this just right, then you have a work process to not only use the power of the tool, but hand tweaking to arrive closer to full separation as well.

@Unders 5 күн бұрын

couple reasons. 1. 4 Was enough, it took hours to prep everything as it was. 2. I wanted things to be as accessible as possible (as stated in the video) 3. I created the tutorials for RX version 8 and decided that would be the more advanced of the tools to cover

@crtune 5 күн бұрын

@@Unders This is good work and we are grateful you do it. I am one of those people who has yet to dive into creating stems, but can use that ability. From what I can see they all have their pluses and minuses. Since I've long been on Cubase I ran into the issue of using Spectralayers. Right now using the included reduced feature version with a mind to determine if their full version is going to potentially be worth it.

@DJCLS Ай бұрын

hoping they will add this to ableton 12... anybody got news on that?

@SubOxyde 14 күн бұрын

Dope vid! Surprised there isnt more coverage on this sort of thing. 😵 Did find it funny you were referencing RX11 before you used it in the video, editing oversight I suspect but still an awesome vid! 🤘💯🎧

@Unders 13 күн бұрын

I used RX10. RX11 was literally announced while I was recording the parts of the video.

@dropdedgothish 10 күн бұрын

so the tech u demonstrated in this video is pretty awesome! hope one day someone builds a vst plugin that can do this in any daw, that is affordable, or free? one can only hope. XD

@Unders 9 күн бұрын

@@dropdedgothish Serato have done that since this video 👍

@SOAR-OF-AVEM 4 ай бұрын

Yes! The options are incredible now! Pro Logic for vocals and iZotope RX for the bass! THank you!

@Unders 4 ай бұрын

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@roderickhorton7845 Ай бұрын

I tried LALAL....AI a few minutes ago and I like what it did with a WAV file from and old Church CD my church made. I am going to pay the $18 for 90 minutes of processing because it is only one CD I need to process and I am not overly concerned with processing speed as long as it completes the conversions in a few hours or less (it shouldn't be a problem).

@Unders Ай бұрын

Happy you found the right solution

@RandomVelocity 29 күн бұрын

Yeah, these all sound pretty equally the same. I don’t think you’ll ever get rid of artifacts. I mean, I guess it can be helpful for practicing you know if you want to remove vocals and sing over at track or try to remove the guitars stuff like that or learn apart maybe might be helpful. Use some EQ to clean it up a little bit.

@GodAtum Ай бұрын

how about spectaralayers?

@Unders Ай бұрын

Not one i have access too.

@theandroids 3 күн бұрын

LALA used to be great a year or so ago. Dont know what they did to it but now its not as good.

@Unders 3 күн бұрын

@@theandroids a friend of mine who runs a podcasting studio business said the same thing specifically for vocal isolations.

@theandroids 20 сағат бұрын

@@Unders Yup. RX actually does a better job now in some cases, when before you would get almost crystal clear results lala. That's what happens when you fiddle too much with the algorithm and claim its an improvement. Maybe, but then you've ruined a previous area.

@gsmith11172 4 ай бұрын

What about MPC Stems

@Unders 4 ай бұрын

I dont use MPC software or the modern MPC's an wanted to keep this as accessible as possible for everyone. Serato sample was another one i considered but 4 to compare was enough.

@Bittamin 4 ай бұрын

@@Understhanks bruv!!🎉

@producerdata 3 ай бұрын

the mpc stems are the best so far. facts

@worldclassicguitarists 2 ай бұрын

I have all these you used and tried the rest of them. NONE of them are free of aliasing, which is especially bad in drums specifically cymbal crashes and bass guitar. They all still leave A LOT to be desired. I firmly disagree with you that any of this is truly usable. Do a track like Pat Travers live record with Tommy Aldrich on drums. Or any hard hitting drummer. This tech has not arrived for professional use. Not even for added tracks in a live show. Sorry about the negative sound of my reply, but I sugarcoat nothing when it comes to audio.

@Unders 2 ай бұрын

You’re welcome to your opinion, thanks for sharing it. Fact is these things are being used all the time for professional uses already. They just haven’t reached YOUR personal goals. Yet.

@worldclassicguitarists 2 ай бұрын

@@Unders I certainly don't know how from my experience. I've never heard a thing from natural instruments I'd put on a recording or use live. My ear don't have enough forgiveness to accept, 'it'll be ok in a mix'. And I have messed with all these software products til I'm blue. Please do me a favor and show me what you can do with something off the aforementioned PT 'Go For What You Know' record. I'm hoping you can show me something better than I've accomplished. Thanks much for your time and doing these reviews!

@knuftobor 20 күн бұрын

I think it will be some time for it to be as good as what you would get from a multi-track tape. I think the artifacts are from the removal of frequencies and its going to need AI to generate new frequencies to make up for the missing ones. So far the AI music generators sound like crap too.

@Reggi_Sample 3 ай бұрын

Lalal is up there but nothing is as fast and high quality as Logic now imo. This is after I did a few gain matched tests with Serato mpc logic rx and Lalal, RX came out the worst

@Unders 3 ай бұрын

Interesting. I find RX can be the best especially from getting transients back like drums. But does require you to test settings. What version are you on I’ve no plans to spending on RX11 yet.

@lNowHerel 2 ай бұрын

It only does 4 stems though doesnt go deeper

@master_m_productions5628 3 ай бұрын

Is this available in trial version of fl studio 21

@Unders 3 ай бұрын

🤷‍♂️ Download it and try it, I’ve not had the trial version for 15+ years.

@master_m_productions5628 3 ай бұрын

@@Unders Ok, thank you. I'm a student who is passionate about music production

@MrDisrupta 4 ай бұрын

Nice vid mate Rip X is another that i own so wouldn't be interested if that got compared too.

@Unders 4 ай бұрын

Actually forgot about RipX was super clunky when I use it. But did a good job.

@MrDisrupta 4 ай бұрын

@@Unders nice one 😎

@Unders 4 ай бұрын

@@MrDisrupta you can pull midi chord from sample with RIPX right?

@MrDisrupta 4 ай бұрын

@@Unders yeah it's quite powerful. You can change the pitch of single notes in a loop. Stuff like that

@Unders 4 ай бұрын

@@MrDisrupta yeeees yes I was impressed. I think I just didn’t want to spend the money on after trialing. I saw they’re making an Apple vision version and that could really be a great way to create.