What is the BEST Trekking Pole Tent? Durston X-Mid vs Lanshan 2

[@R4GEMcOc]

Bought the lanshan2 after watching your video a year or so ago Andy.. got it from Collins outdoors as you recommended.. it and camperlist is the same you were so kind to help with on that video... Made sense as I use treking poles and they attached to my exos 48 best decision I made thanks Andy. Never needed to seam seal either and I was lucky to get the T zip.

[@BackpackingUK]

I do prefer the T-Zips, it gives you options from both sides or altogether. I'm surprised more Brands don't do this.

[@christophewaeles3767]

Their prices are unbeatable. Shipping to the UK 9 days.

[@ChristyPesek]

@@christophewaeles3767 Tax-free kills aliexpress

[@benny_vanlife]

Well that's my weekend ruined. I spent all winter deciding between the Durston and Lanshan, didn't even know about the Tarptent. Cheers for that!! 😂

[@BackpackingUK]

It's worse still, Tarptent sell 3 different fly material versions too! One for each budget.

[@benny_vanlife]

@@BackpackingUK FFS 😂 Nice review vid though mate, good to see these compared 👍🏻

[@Fellmandave1]

Hahaha. Only a tentfetishist would get that!

[@allyp7]

nice video Andy. i'm about to pull the trigger on an xmid 2 solid. the reason for the solid is exactly as you say, more protection from the elements especially up here in Scotland where i'll be using it most!

[@rektchord]

This has come at a perfect time. Thanks for doing this and all your other videos. I'm currently building my gear up for my first multi-dayer this summer on the SWCP and I'd be lost without your reviews and knowledge. Cheers Andy!

[@BackpackingUK]

Glad to help!

[@seanstacey3223]

Hi Andy. As always a terrific review from you, honest, practical and down to earth for the normal wild camper who is on a budget 👍 After watching I'd agree with you that the tarptent does look great for a one person tent, I do like the large vestibule, haven't seen that tent before. I've recently bought the Lanshan 2 Pro with the intention of just using it in the summer/better conditions, for anything else I have a couple of other tents which would be better. Really looking forward to be able to use my Lanshan 2 Pro for the first time, here's hoping for better weather! 🙄

[@camping_guru_uk]

Great vid Andy and of course theres so many other tents you could of chosen but i think the Yun Chuan would of fitted in there perfectly.

[@frambo7]

Great vid Andy. I have been using my xmid 2p solid through the winter & while it stood up to some harsh weather i will be buying a dedicated winter tent.

[@BackpackingUK]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@sf9000]

If I was slightly shorter then I'd have the lanshan and the amount I'd spent on tents over the last couple of years would be through the floor 😂 Jumped on the Durston train though and it's a go-to. Got some big trips planned for it. It's way more tall-person (6ft+) friendly. No experience with the Tarptent but their reputation says good things about them to me. Wasn't prepared to jump over the import cost barrier for it though.

[@Soggz7785]

Hi Andy. Hope you are well. I have a River Country one pole trekking tent. I’ve used it many times last year now, from The Mendip Hills in Somerset to Mountains in The Lake District. It was only £49.00 from Amazon, and I have to say, they are better than any of those, considering the price. It’s fully waterproof, Seam sealed, with inner tent and just over 1 kilo in weight. Plenty of room for one person, and a good size vestibule for your pack and cooking. Try one. They also do a 2 pole tent version too. All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧

[@KNURKonesur]

Have you tried the Lanshan against the Asta Gear? What I'm mostly interested is 2 aspects - 1) packability, as we often use tents for bikepacking, the ability to squeeze it into smaller spaces in our bike bags is a bonus, 2) actual size and liveability inside, lots of tents are long but for someone at 6"2' + a pad means touching the forehead and toes against the wall while sleeping, plus double entry would be a bonus as there's usually two of us. The Naturehike Tagar 2 we have at the moment has been great, but a bit tight and only one real entrance makes us think of an upgrade/change.

[@alangauld6079]

Totally sensible review and I agree that for UK use double skin is best. Not least because it's warmer and darker(important on light summer nights!) Thanks for the review.

[@englishwoodsman]

I've just been looking at the outdoor vitals tent like this . Thank you 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@BackpackingUK]

Hi Dan, I saw the Fortius picked up an award, I'd love to hear your thoughts if you buy one. It looks good on paper!

[@DeeJayEll]

Can you get the Outdoor Vitals stuff over here? I priced something up from them the other day, but they wouldn't ship to the UK. Thanks for the vid Andy. 👋

[@englishwoodsman]

@BackpackingUK that's the problem everything looks good on paper. I got the outdoor vitals dominion 1P tent at Christmas that's lightweight.

[@englishwoodsman]

@DeeJayEll I don't seem to have a problem getting things but it's expensive for shipping

[@slothoutdoors]

Really handy and informative review. I have a naturehike cloud up 2 poly tent (I needed a certain colour for a trip, so it had to be poly) and defo noticed the pitching flat comment you made. Something I'll note when upgrading to a trekking pole tent.

[@bukketkid2567]

I love my stratospire. I got the 1P and purchased the side car to keep banana slugs out of my shoes and off my bag. Funny story: One time I forgot to zip one of the main zippers (basecamp set up) and was picking out banana slugs from my sleeping bag for an hour 😂

[@stirfrywok2927]

Love this video. You hit the nail on the head regarding the tents being suitable for UK use. I think there is one or two British youtubers (one in particular, who shall remain un-named), who could do from watching your video. No one here needs to spend 4 figures on a tent to enjoy a good wild camp. I have the Lanshan 2, by the way. I took it on the GR11 in Spain, great tent but I am one of those people who needs to practice pitching it because I could never get it right! Cheers

[@chazphot]

Name and shame because I don't know who you're talking about 😅

[@stirfrywok2927]

@@chazphot P*ul Messner. There, I kept his dignity! He drives to a half hour hike out from the hill he'll camp on and whip out a thousand pound tent made for artic conditions and complain that it isn't as nice as one of the other thousand pound tents he has because he can't cook as much as he wants or something. Or it's a few grams too heavy, or something- he's the biggest offender. 95% his problem is he pitches in over exposed places. Then he'll look down on the tents reviewed above for all the wrong reasons, when they would realistically would suit his needs. A bit of a rant (just in case you're not familiar with him)

[@davewoodhouse200]

I got the Lanshan recently, not used it yet, but got it off the back of your review Andy. Looking forward to getting it out

[@Voodoo_Ray]

My mate camped last night in their Lanshan 2 . 40 + mph winds and torrential rain and it held up perfectly, even with some dubious pegging points due to the ground conditions. There was a little water ingress however that is probably down to the last owner not seam sealing correctly or potentially the rain being driven in under the edge of the tent and into the ventilation mesh. Condensation was remarkably low for a single skin tent

[@BackpackingUK]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@Pasequale100]

great idea to do this video. I would also like to see a comparison made by you of this kind of tents vs tents like the hubba hubba

[@Northern_Rockhopper]

Nice video Andy, I’ve the Durston x mid 2p and love the space it offers, although I do feel it should come with the extra guys attached when purchasing it. I haven’t seen the Tarptent before, looks mint.

[@BackpackingUK]

To be honest, all trekking pole tents (not just these) should come with extra pegs and guys. Problem is they're all too weight conscious in North America and that's the main market for them.

[@raymondlogister6828]

Thank you Andy for this great video. For me also the Stratospire is my absolute favorite.

[@BackpackingUK]

I love it. The X-Mid grabs all the headlines but I've always preferred the Strato myself.

[@raymondlogister6828]

@@BackpackingUK Stratospire is better in the wind also better ventilation and much more space, you can sleep 2 persons in the stratospire 1 if you lower the inner tent slightly.

[@TreCamus]

I love shopping on camperlists, the prices are impeccable!

[@bernardscott1783]

Tell you what mate you certainly don’t cut corners with your reviews, brilliant mate 👍

[@BackpackingUK]

Thanks 👍

[@9mil848]

Have a look at Tipik Tente(french company).I have done 1500 kms in winter across the Pyrenees with their Pioulou XL.ultralight,tough,beautiful tent.

[@Phil.Oakley]

i had both lanshans but kept the lanshan 2 4 season as its great in fair weather. i tried modding it but found apart from the rams heads swapped out for z pack metal ones nothing else was needed apart from an extra 4 pegs to peg out the inner seperately and this really does improve the layout and stability of the tent. it is however terrible in windy weather. tried it once and really wasnt fit for it at all

[@lilnikkkkkkk]

Looking at getting a trekking pole tent. This video helped a lot. Thanks for the great vid ⛺

[@INSOLESandLACES]

Great review Andy very detailed. Like you I'm not a fan TP tent for the only reason I don't use TP as i find they just get in the way and can put me out of stride. ❤❤

[@alangauld6079]

I find that with 2 TPs but I do use a single trekking pole (and carry a separate non-trekking pole for the tent in my bag!). I find a pole is useful on stream crossings and climbing up/down steep slopes.

[@chriswarren4546]

i have a nemo hornet 2p at just over a kilo poles and pegs included love to see you review ultra lightweight tents like this and compare them to these

[@BackpackingUK]

I did think about putting my MSR Hubba 1 in there too for a comparison. Maybe a future review?

[@chriswarren4546]

@@BackpackingUK id like to see that as everyone seems to go goofy on how lightweight these trekking pole tents are but they don't include the poles or the pegs and they are single wall so condensation becomes a problem

[@austingavins9181]

Luxe hexpeak v4a, well priced and like a limpit in bad wind! Had mine for a few years and it's always performed well in the worst of weathers, they do a true 4 season version too with snow skirt etc

[@evelienberghman7874]

Dear Andy, still enjoying your videos 👍🏻 but is there a reason why you did not include the Asta gear Yun chuan 2 in this video? Or is the focus here on the 1p tents and not really 2p?

[@iwasapirateonce1639]

A decent European trekking pole tent manufacturer is Liteway equipment (from Ukraine). Nice stealthy colors too unlike the US tents. I think the Lanshan 1 is much more weather resistant in design than the Lanshan 2 (the Lanshan 2 has massive panels that just collapse under the wind). There is also the MLD Duomid which is probably the most wind resistant of trekking pole tents and probably the closest to a 4 season capable design. Nice video and interesting comparison, hoping the Xmid gets a colour update soon to something a bit more discrete.

[@BackpackingUK]

I've never heard of Liteway so I'll take a look. At some point I will try a MLD as some people really rate them!

[@babar69110]

always great reviews !

[@MoosebearAdventures]

Very nice comparison video, thank you. now just waiting for Asta Gear and X-Mid comparison 😂

[@BackpackingUK]

🧨 🎆 💣 🎇

[@IvanDP1967]

Great review Andy, you've definitely given anyone looking for a trekking pole tent some serious food for thought. Out of curiosity, once you add the extra guy ropes, pegs, etc and then factor in the actual trekking poles, is there that much difference in weight compared to a more traditional weight backpacking tent?

[@BackpackingUK]

Great point, and I will create a review at some point in the future that shows this 😁

[@swithuncrowe]

I've just done my first trip with a Six Moons Design Lunar Solo (sil-poly version). It is lighter than all the ones above, cheaper than two of them and has plenty of room inside plus a big vestibule. I just wish it wasn't such a light grey colour.

[@BackpackingUK]

It’s not for me, but I know it’s award winning, so people must like it.

[@stevew585]

Andy, for the money the Vango Heddon is well worth a look!

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

Great video. If you were me , USA casual backpacker. 2-5 days absolute max on trail if that. Never in bad weather if I can help it , which of the x mid or the lanshan would you buy ? If money isn’t a factor.

[@BackpackingUK]

For nice weather, you get a lot more space inside the Lanshan. I guess that's why they're so popular.

[@Jon_From_Coventry]

The Durston would be my choice if it was available in darker colours. I like to blend in when wild camping and the Durston range would all stick out like a sore thumb.

[@ervinslens]

Outstanding review man, 👏👏👏

[@BackpackingUK]

Much appreciated!

[@TobyKaparu]

Hi Andi what would be the scnarios you'd take/recommend a trekking pole tent? But other than that I went to the doctor and he prescribed me with no more than 2 hours a week of your channel because o boy do I spend a lot of time here. Lol thanks for all the helpful content. Cheers

[@BackpackingUK]

Personally, I tend to use them when the weather is better and I’m traveling further. Plus I don’t always take trekking poles. Some people do still use them in winter and winds though!

[@gabriellearterburn4428]

Great video! Super helpful! Thank you!

[@Mysteryman93]

In my opinion, bonfus make the best trecking pole tent. Bigger, stronger, superb quality. For a budget one, the forclaz mt900 is hard to beat.

[@BackpackingUK]

No doubt Bonfus is right up there, I just wish (like Z-Packs) they'd make a cheaper range too.

[@suewheeler5795]

What about the Alpkit tarpstar 1?

[@DiamondWechselblatt]

For the price you get 2 Lanshan 2's for the same price as 1 X-Mid 2. Both are excellent tents. Why the huge price difference!!!

[@alanrobinson2229]

I just got my first Lanshan 2, for £93 AE. There is a Durston approved x mid tent on Amazon for £273( 1p).

[@BackpackingUK]

The delivery date for the X-Mid is the 30th November 🤣

[@alanrobinson2229]

@@BackpackingUK well spotted,I just glanced at it

[@TheNewGreenIsBlue]

Small correction... the Durston X-Mid is a Canadian tent... although its main market is, obviously, the US.

[@BackpackingUK]

I knew that, not sure why I said it if I did. I usually say ‘North American tents’.

[@gazza1858]

Excellent vlog Andy..

[@BackpackingUK]

Thanks 👍

[@jedsmith4988]

Very helpful comparative review! I was leaning towards the X-Mid but thought the inner may be too small for me. TT Strat 1 and Dipole are good alternatives. The Strat looked wider than the X-mid in your video, even without the bungee pullouts to the pole (really wish they'd add those). Seems odd as they are both stated as 32"/81 cm wide. They claim it can go wider, but then you lose inner height and bathtub height. Not sure about how far the inner is from the face when lying on a 3"/7 cm pad. Tougher to pitch and heavier than the X-mid and Dipole, but perhaps more stormworthy.

[@nilesdelta8636]

Thorough review!

[@etztz123]

In relation to your public apology over the Verne 1 the poles take on a curve with use. There was nothing wrong with the way that tent was pitched. Fellmandave also trashed his Verne 2. I think the issue here is the way you big up your gift publicly and turn it into some sort of competition with the soulo without proper testing first. Your not the only one who does this mind.

[@BackpackingUK]

Please stop associating me with the Vern 2. People keep doing this. I've never reviewed or even commented on this tent. I'm sick of it!

[@etztz123]

I wasn't. It's the same tent only bigger isn't it, and Fellmandave has loads of experience. The issue with the Verne 1 and 2 is the the cross over on the low longitudinal poles. The construction of both of these tents is not stronger than the red label soulo either. Now illustrated by the fact that both tents failed at t 40-50 mph wind speeds. Jeez I've had my little helm 1 out in 50mph winds. As I say it's the bigging up by KZbinrs that's the problem here. Which in turn influences people to part with their hard earnt money for such equipment. And all without being thoroughly tested first. So now as a result lots of them are eating humble pie. 🥧

[@BackpackingUK]

The Vern 1 didn't fail in 40-50 winds. Watch the video yourself as the proof is out there. People like you are winding me up. You don't know the facts yet have a huge opinion. It's a joke.

[@etztz123]

I'm entitled to my opinion as much as you. The highest speed recorded was 55 however the tent failed a lot sooner perhaps around 35 in my opinion. Do you really think those poles would have been fit for purpose again after the tent was flattening like that. I suggest you watch Andrew parks channel. The design of the tent is flawed Which leads to vulnerability in high wind. However he suggested a hack to mitigate the issue somewhat.

[@cuprajake1]

1.5k when you add your trekking poles, and a bit more with a footprint, thats getting into good tent territory. I have a love hate with the durston, had 3 sold 3. Now have a hilleberg nallo 😂🤯

[@BackpackingUK]

I’m on my second X-Mid. Still not convinced they deserve the hype.

[@cuprajake1]

@@BackpackingUK I've used them a few times, and each time been wet, first time out with the nallo in the same spot. Dry. Could be coincidence 🤷 my problem with the xmid is finding a flat pitch

[@johnmccarron]

Lanshan 2 is a good for long distance walks, tent light/tough the other two NTY,

[@TheSotai]

My biggest question after watching this, is why do you have the poles upside down? The spike on the poles really wants to be in the ground for extra stability and less chance of damaging the tent. The only other thing is I'd not class any of those tents as 4 season, they're 3 season regardless of what sellers say.

[@BackpackingUK]

Some trekking pole tents are designed to have the tips up. There’s a little metal grommet inside each peak the tip fits into. I personally wouldn’t use a trekking pole tent in winter but I know lots of people do (plenty of videos out there). Personally I’d class them as 3+ season rather than 4.

[@TheSotai]

@@BackpackingUK it was mainly the lanshan that made me question the poles as (at least mine) doesn't have grommets and instead is shapped to fit the poles handle.

[@matthewcollis6259]

I have the Lanshan 2 Pro version, poles definitely go in pointy bit down and there is a strap on the bottom of the inner to tension to. Must be different in the non Pro versions

[@TheSotai]

@matthewcollis6259 I have the standard version and it's the same.

[@brianthornton4991]

Lanshan 2 is the best value and performance is excellent. The very expensive - like for like -Durston x mid 2 solid is not good value.

[@owestyo]

Any reviews on poles?

[@BackpackingUK]

No, but I probably should do as I’ve got 5 sets 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@owestyo]

@@BackpackingUK 🤣🤣🤣 I’m about to grab a set from go outdoors but they all seem the same apart from the price.

[@moortolifeuk]

Do you know of any 3 person trekking pole tents?

[@BackpackingUK]

There are some out there, however, I’d probably look at 3P tunnel tents instead for best size / weight ratio.

[@moortolifeuk]

@@BackpackingUK thanks for responding. Looking to do a weeks hike with my teenage son but he wants to share a tent and my lanshan 2 isn't big enough for two.

[@driewiel]

@@moortolifeuk I have an Aricxi 'hot tent' with chimney hole form Ali Express. 165-170 cm high. 360 cm diagonal. It's a hex shape. Really cheap right now like €50. You can buy a half or full inner separately. All together with alu pole that comes with the tent it's still under 2 kilo. Pyramid tents have the best space/weight ratio actually. At least floor space. Had serious thunderstorms but no problem. Quality is just fine. Seams all taped. There are more single pole tents on ali large small. Take your pick. Other option is a Luxe Hiking Gear. I had a Hexpeak V4a. Lost it! Fell off my bike didn't notice. Luckily I carried a Lanshan as a spare.

[@zakafx]

Hey everyone, just wanted to let you know that I have been in contact with 3F UL Gear. Expect an update to the pro series of Lanshans this year :). I reached out to them because honestly, this tent hits all of the checkboxes for me, and switching to a DCF tent this year is simply not in the cards. Sure I can get a regular Xmid, but for my upgrade path, I am looking for more weight savings if anything. My experience with the Lanshan pro tents (i own both the 1 and 2 pros) have been nothing but excellent, plus you can't beat that brown color. While I won't give away the entire discussion between us, I just wanted to let you guys know this tidbit of info. Cant wait myself.

[@BackpackingUK]

Sounds interesting!

[@R4GEMcOc]

Not meaning to sound a little harsh here but I felt the lanshan pros were a bit of a downgrade on the originals. Each to their own but yeah I got the pro originally sold it and bought the lanshan2

[@alangauld6079]

@@R4GEMcOc Me too, for the UK I'll always take a two-skin tent. For one thing, I've woken up to frost on the inside too often in spring/winter and with a single skin it just falls down on top of you. With two-skin it hits the inner and slides off.

[@juristimma5366]

maximum for tent 400 BP

[@davejones9919]

Would anybody like to buy my Lanshan 2 4 seasons T zip with footprint. I just dont like it 😂 Its the 2nd one i have had. I went back to my Helm 1 compact.

[@mikaelbergman9108]

X mid🏆

[@laviku]

You loosing out lunar solo 700 grams and silpoly

[@BackpackingUK]

It’s a single skin full mesh tent. Totally unsuitable for the UK unless it’s the height of summer. It’s a lot smaller than these too. I know it’s multi-award winning but it suits warmer climates and ultralighters.

[@SallysBottom]

This seems the ideal time Andy to ask you. What happened to the review you said back in November that you were going to do of the Asta Gear Yun Chuan 1 tent you had ordered? I've been looking forward to seeing that.

[@BackpackingUK]

Just trying to break the content up, I don’t want to do too much of the same thing. The Asta Gear vs Durston video won’t go down well 😆

[@blackdeathrodrigo]

same here , meanwhile, jus enjoing the content, i´m sorry for my Grammar