What Are the Best & Worst Tents of 2023? w/ Steven (MyLifeOutdoors)

[@MyLifeOutdoors]

This was a blast! Thanks so much for having me on. I look forward to the next one.

[@andrewheffel3565]

I was an avid backpacker in the 1960's and 70's. This year my wife and I have been hiking almost every weekend, and I miss backpacking. I watch a lot of YT videos, and am buying gear piece by piece. I am almost 70 and have health issues, so I figgure I better get lightweight gear, but budget matters too. This video is like finding gold. I use trecking poles and am considering the Lanchan 1 Pro for a tent, are there any better tents for me?

[@djw8504]

I have one that I e never used but I seam sealed it myself, and found a drop of water inside after a rain, it’s my fault for not doing a good job with the sealer, I think I will just sell it cheap so that someone else can get some good use out of it. Like I said I haven’t even used it. I bought a Dan Durston XMid 1p. I love it!! Good luck.😁

[@curtis.strange]

Could listen to you guys chat gear all day tbh, Mr Steve has to be a regular guest 🤞

[@kid5Media]

I've been watching (subscribed) to you guys and numerous others for the last several years. At 76 and limited income this is an armchair hobby for me. But gear has been my avocation for over 40 years. I have an Omnipotent from the late 70s, thoroughly antique except for being an integral pitch body and fly. If I were starting out and cost no object I would, from everything I've seen, not hesitate to get a Durston X-mid 2P. More than light enough as far as I'm concerned. And for any serious winter or higher elevation stuff a Hilleberg of one flavor or another. I'm simply not interested in single layer tents and to my mind any modern tent has to be an integral pitch and have a vestibule. Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy you guys. Agree that Tarptent does really interesting stuff. Too bad they aren't more forthcoming.

[@alsnyder1660]

I'm glad you mentioned the idea of companies copying designs and selling cheaper products. I try to avoid buying products from those companies. Low prices are always very tempting but lets support the companies doing the work.

[@briandoolittle3422]

I have a Big Agnes Copper Spur. I haven't used it in over a year. The first time I ever used it, a pole broke from wind during set up. Last year I used it in windy conditions, and I was so anxious about its performance, and it was bending and flexing so much despite additional guy lines, I took the rain fly off, and slept in just the mesh inner, because the mesh doesn't catch as much wind. It was an unpleasant night. I now us a Tarptent Rainbow Li. Its stronger in wind, has more internal space, and is lighter. Its a little disapointing to hear about the attitudes of the company, but their tents really are amazing.

[@therealchickentender]

There's nothing wrong with Tarptents attitude... the number of creators trying to review gear is nuts. They just don't play the game. They make great innovative gear, with original engineering, word of mouth, that everybody tries to rip-off. These guys think they don't play nice because they dont give out free gear.

[@bihlygoat]

Best “traditional” tents I’ve found for setting up in rain all come from the UK (or Hilleberg for $$$). They know about setting up in rain! 😊 Just hard to find them in the US unless you order from the UK.

[@karlbratby4349]

Yes we get a lot and i mean a lot of rain... LOL

[@Just4Gordon]

Try Big Agnes Tiger Wall ( various subcategories~ ie. I have the TW2 Bike-packing Solution Dyed version: Easy set-up in the rain under fly esp with the Footprint ( a little bit of practice helps as well) !

[@deangerhardt8781]

Great conversation! I started with a Mongar 2, bought and sold the last generation Freelite 3 because it was actually a 2 person tent. There is a few more over the next couple years, but i ended up with a Tarp Tent Stratospire 2 as my "standard" 2 person tent. I really love it, but it was a gamble because there wasn't much out there for reviews. Keep pressuring the tent companies... two person tents should be minimum 50, 3 minimum 75 and 5 minimum 100... I don't want to buy my kid mini size Nemo Tensors when for an extra few bucks I can get them grown up pads that they can keep for an extra few years once they move out. Hopefully Tarp Tent adds creators to their marketing plan. They have been amazing in their response time to me as a customer, and I think their designs would benefit from more exposure :) keep up the great work!

[@billb5732]

Hubba Hubba is the only dome tent that has a rectangular floor and is seriously storm-worthy. There are many clones of it, but none are as good. Osprey packs deliver excellent bang-for-the-buck in packs that can carry serious weight. Plus lifetime warranty. Frequent sales. Agreed that 50 inches should be MINIMUM width for 2-person tents. 60 inches is really more comfortable (and is necessary for 2x 30-inch pads). Agreed about Stratospire 2: It expands to 60", so it is one of the best 2-person tents. River Country also has 60-inch wide, 3 pound, tents, at attractive pricing.

[@Pasequale100]

is the new bikepack version of the hubba with the 8.5mm poles also stormworthy?

[@marvellis6762]

Doesn't the Nemo Dagger have a rectangular floor as a dome tent?

[@billb5732]

@@marvellis6762 Looks like it. Good call.

[@roselee_explores]

Loved the different perspectives on all of the different tents. I love my Tarptent DR LI ... it's my trail palace for me and my pup (and a 25" wide pad). The hardest thing for me is getting the ridgepole into it's sleeve ... but the resulting headroom and even shoulder room is fantastic. I've also got the XMid Pro 2 (version 1) and I love the ease of setup and that it packs smaller than the TT. But I've shared both tents with my mom and the TT was just roomier (plus I've got the roofnest accessory that gives me a place for my glasses/headlamp and stuff). Also, even though I know that floor material in the XMid is what results in the smaller packed size ... I prefer the dcf floor material. But I hammock over half of my trips or more ... and everyone has different needs/wants when backpacking. Looking forward to your future gear talk videos! :)

[@simplesolutions2865]

Great discussion. I use six moon designs gateway cape and the lunar solo, I got the x-mid 1p solid for winter - I used it last Feb in -12°F with 40mph winds and the tent was awesome. There was barely a draft inside the tent and it remained solidly stable. It's 30oz, but for a winter tent that is light.

[@MoeBergOSS]

How is the gate wood cape in high winds and rain?

[@simplesolutions2865]

@@MoeBergOSS It is very good in the rain, but I haven't used it in really heavy winds. I suspect as long as the back is to the prevailing wind it would be fine. You can also lower the pitch to get all the sides lower to the ground - but this of course means less ventilation - but when it's windy that is usually not an issue.

[@almashburn1770]

I tie a guy line to the top of my tent, and put a knot in it at the length of the trekking pole for my 1 and 2 trekking pole tents. I can use the line in high winds, and if I lose or break a pole, I can use the line as a tape measure for the right length to cut a stick.

[@sherrylaponsee7782]

Smart!

[@lakorai2]

Correction: X-Mid 1p/2p mesh and solid models can pitch fly first and can also be setup as a tarp shelter

[@tomshort6611]

True I have a xmid solid and use the z flick poles so you have to set up rainfly first vs a trekking pole.

[@lorvik66]

I love this content; great conversation between two of my favorite backpacking creators. As someone else mentioned, I could listen to conversations like this for hours. Keep up the great work!

[@janeet8227]

Some innovative historical tents I have had: Nemo made a rent with inflatable tube pillars instead of poles, also the Sierra Design Flash had the same external pole all in one double wall design freestanding design that you could put up quickly without the risk of getting the inner wet.

[@llo70422]

tarptent excellent -stratospire Li being used up at Whistler BC by me. I had the Duplex by z packs and sold it. Never looked back with Tarptent. Unique design and you can by the mesh and solid inserts for it. In the Spring I used the solid interior and yes its warmer. Cost a lot of Canadian money but I'm in love with this tent. Heading to Manning Park this week and will be rocking Tarptent once again No I don't work for the company but I do live in BC and pay that horrid exchange rate to buy their tents. Sheila Vancouver BC

[@sherrylaponsee7782]

If you say xmid 3 times you can summon Dan Durston….😳

[@MoeBergOSS]

No. If you say anything negative about a Durston tent he shows up and proceeds to say how other tents are bad to the point of exaggeration and lying. He really has no ability to admit the flaws of any of his tents, which there are some. He will try to pass off his criticizing others gear as not being negative towards them but it really is.

[@jarrettreckseidler]

😂😂😂

[@jamesking4225]

@@MoeBergOSSfact he is a karen ,he gets so butthurt over anything you say about his gear

[@Gerz970]

@@MoeBergOSSI have never seen him trashing other gear. He does defend his designs quite profusely though, generally it is just explaining his designs decisions for better or worse.

[@MoeBergOSS]

@@Gerz970 You’ve seen him do that? I guess you don’t read much of what he says then. Congrats.

[@tvluce]

Thanks to both Justin and Steven! That was a great discussion, and both of your channels are great!

[@david_onthetrail]

You guys are 100% on point with the size of tents. I just bought a 3 person tent so I can have two 25 inch wide pads inside, I get a way better sleep on my 25 inch pad being a bigger guy.

[@david_onthetrail]

I have the Marmot 1P UL Tungsten, light and packs small, the Marmot Tungsten 2P ( not UL ), not light 5LB but room for 2 as long as you are on 20 inch pads, Just purchased the Marmot Tungsten UL3, light 3 person affordable tent. I chose the Marmot Tungsten series tents for their roominess and affordability.

[@sherrylaponsee7782]

Loved this! Bring Steven back again!

[@GrizzlyGaz]

Great podcast Justin. The X-mid doesn't seem to be fairing well in the UK. I see loads for sale over here on the second hand sites. Steven is a decent bloke and he knows his stuff, We've spoken a few times via message 👌 if you ever want a wild camper (backpacker) from the UK on your podcast, give me a shout 👍

[@mikekraut7643]

I’ve seen lots of people selling their x-mid 2P pro and picking up the 1p version now that it’s out

[@GrizzlyGaz]

@@mikekraut7643 are you in the US or the UK?

[@rickay5363]

I'm in the UK Gaz and I have traded out my Lanshan 2 pro for a X-Mid 2p and I couldn't be happier. I see a lot for sale but it's usually because they've bought two so they can sell 1 of them on.

[@GrizzlyGaz]

@@rickay5363 this may be the case to save on shipping or to make a bit of cash themselves but one guy I spoke to about his said his leaked through the zips.

[@rickay5363]

@@GrizzlyGaz not something I've heard of happening and I'm sure Durston would be keen to know about it and fix that. They're very responsive to being contacted.

[@PT_Hikes]

"Blast it at there butt hole and create a poosplosion" 😂😂😂😂😂 dead

[@SparkyOne549]

So true. Glass drinks taste so much better. I’m all for comfortability, with some weight consideration. If I don’t feel comfortable or get a good nights sleep, my hike, especially on a thru hike, will be miserable. I have an autoimmune disease and do my best to complete my hikes, I just take a lot longer. So I won’t be buying a lightweight tent, because on some days, I won’t leave my tent. I don’t mind packing more lbs as long as my pack is comfortable, which it is. I purchased the copper spur ul 2, and it’s perfect for my circumstances, it’s my hotel for those days I can’t hike on my thru hike. Where I cut weight is my sleeping system, which I searched high and low for a cold sleeper lightweight quilt, I found the lightest warmest clothes and cooking gear all lightweight. My base weight is only 14 pounds and that’s with some winter gear, just incase.

[@UnkemptBushell]

I really enjoyed listening to this today. I laughed when you mentioned about the Hubba Hubba tent and Osprey packs being overrated, and I do agree. Though, in the UK, a lot of the gear you favour isn't as accessible without long waiting times and import fees so there's a few brands you see everywhere. Osprey, Rab and MSR are all particular prevalent here. I have the MSR Hubba 1 person because I don't use trekking poles and it seemed a good option to withstand wind and rain without being too heavy or costing a fortune to import. I like the look of the Nemo Hornet but I think the cut out in the fly sheet could be problematic. As far as packs go - have you heard of Atom Packs?

[@tishahone6198]

The tarptent rainbow Li is such a great tent. The liner feature is way nice i mostly use it when its really cold to help keep heat in.

[@markthomas2436]

Steven made some great points. Where we are at today, it is tough to beat a dynema A frame trekking pole tent. If you love camping, you probably love tents, as he said. I don't need a fly on a tent, but I DO need it to be strong and keep me dry in the rain. A tarp can't really do that very well, and a bivy is just a casket in disguise. I need a 2 man A frame 5 by 7 foot tent in order to FEEL like it is NOT a casket. I think in the coming years you will see these light fabrics make their way into cheaper tents. Steven is right. Don't sell me a one person tent and claim it is for 2 people. If you and your girl can fit into it and both have enough room? Then it is a TWO person tent. A 5 foot by 7 foot A frame CAN take two... 25 inch pads side by side. And still have ten inches to spare.

[@toddwilson1230]

I think your hate for the Hubba hubba stems from not being old enough for the history. The Hubba Hubba was the first real mainstream lightweight bombproof tent to be picked up by the masses. I bought mine 20 years ago. Since then it has done countless nights in the real back country a trip to the attic circle and the Australian desert. Survived many storms and I only retired it last year as it broke a pole connector. It was in many ways the leader to much of the new tent designs and fabric usages. I’d argue the reason you still see so many is they both last and they have a reputation that encourages confidence. Most people can’t replace their tents regularly for me I aim for 10 years as a minimum. Therefore the tents strength and build materials matter more than an extra few grams.

[@YouTubeSafetyTroll]

Dozens, perhaps hundreds, of little outdoor recreators were probably conceived in some version of the Hubba Hubba. Some of them are in college now. 😢

[@robwenman8179]

I have the latest model.of the Hubba hubba, and I'm convinced it's the best 3 season tent for PNW conditions. It's lightweight, and super sturdy and durable when set up correctly.

[@randyholloway920]

The reason tents are not overly huge on the inside is nit only to keep the weight down, but also because the heat source for keeping you warm is you. So you don’t want a huge air bubble (tent inside) to heat up. Plus, you need to stay low to the ground for stability. You’re only sleeping in your tent, not living in it. At best you may have to wait out a few days of bad weather.

[@curtelverd]

Fantastic video! You guys have 2 of the best KZbin channels out there for backpackers.

[@darchgirladventures4417]

Love my Tarptent Notch Li - my solo tent, have used the Cloudburst 3 and now use the Hogback as our family tent. Have preferred Tarptent over Zpacks duplex & triplex. Always wondered why they aren’t talked about more, now I understand why.

[@rolfdenver]

Everyone should at least TRY a bidet, at home as well on the trail. It’s far MORE clean, not less clean.

[@aaronwinter447]

I am so glad things are moving away from skimping on features for the sake of gram counting. I've accepted the lightest shelter is a tarp so If I'm taking a tent, I want comfort, not a tent that is trying to skimp to save grams, because eventually we just circle back to a flat tarp. Back in 2012 when I first found ultralight forums and the 20" Xlite pad was a hot new thing, we all tried to get crazy light - maybe too far. I got a 25" pad in 2017 and custom made an inner for 2P. FINALLY tent makers are cluing in we want 50" wide 2P tents.

[@donniebel]

My last tent upgrade was between the X-Mid pro and the Dipole Li. Very happy with the Dipole. Sure it would be nice if it was 2 or 3 oz lighter but the palatial interior space and fantastic ventilation more than make up for it. Highly recommended.

[@harduphiker]

I started with Coleman and Highlander tents! They aren't bad, and yes I was hiking with them! That was a heavy pack....

[@WilliamKapes]

Unfortunately the newer model of the Gossamer Gear The One got smaller. I have the older model, pre-2021 and it fits my 25 inch pad just fine (Nemo Tensor in reg/wide). Also its significantly longer than the current model. Gossamer Gear was going for bringing the weight down and in my opinion they hurt the tent. As a taller hiker the new model is just too small and my head and feet hit the tent body, which is single wall, at the ends now. But the old model is still awesome...

[@CanadianSkylights]

Agreed. I'm 6'-3" and my model from 2019 is great. I have to use my seat pad to elevate the footbed to keep my sleeping bag dry, but other than that in the rain even it's totally fine.

[@psyodome]

Thanks you Justin and the other wonderful man for the valuable information. I'm new to the whole gear thing, looking for my first complete kit, for my first bigger hike to come.

[@MFRiley]

I've been thinking about this recently, and it came up during the podcast -- In less than ideal weather conditions, you might hear mention of people preferring free-standing tents, so as not to rely on guy-out points and stakes to provide all of the necessary structure to a tent. But, realistically, if the weather is extreme enough to pull tent stakes out of the ground, the poles on your free-standing tent likely aren't going provide enough structure, so you'll need to utilize guy-out points and stakes anyway. If the ground is going to be soft or sandy, just bring longer stakes. At the end of the day, whether you have a trekking pole tent or a free-standing tent, utilizing guy-out points and stakes will become a necessity when the weather gets rough. Free-standing tents will always have their place, but honestly, I think scenarios where a free-standing tent makes more sense than a trekking pole tent are pretty niche.

[@woodchip2782]

Loved this!😊 two bright, learned experts with open minds. Thank you both for sharing your experience and thoughts!👏🏼

[@ValkyrieHikes]

Sure, I’d love an ultralight tent, but I always buy the wide sleeping pads. I also prefer the thicker sleeping pads. I don’t want to sacrifice comfort when I’m trying to sleep. So I’m going to try to save some weight (when I can afford it) to buy an ultralight quilt or sleeping bag. Loved the video. I follow both of you. Thanks for the video and information, Justin and Steven. 👍🏼

[@zdzislawaprzyborska5653]

I do not have, and I am not about to buy the x mid since I need a 3 person tent, but I get it, why there's some much hype around it - it does well in snow and it's hard to get something as lightweight preforming like this the whole year around...

[@NordicSnowhammer]

Just got a Flextail pad, 25". WAS using a Big Agnus Rapide 20". Gave that to my wife. Hey, sometimes ya gotta take one for the team.

[@natlovell122]

As a fellow gear nerd, this was a lot of fun to listen to! Thanks a lot for all the great info

[@jadenm]

I love the tents from Paria outdoors!!! ❤ I highly recommend them and have always been satisfied with not only their products but customer service as well.

[@fubarghost13akawoz44]

Hi first time of watching I’m surprised still that no one seems to mention the DD a frame tent and with this episode for me it would be perfect for the “first time tent” and the “most innovative tent” because of the versatility simplicity and how light it is compared to other tents in the price range “cost and set up being the inner mesh the outer skin the poles and swapping pegs for a selection of titanium standard and titanium sand/snow pegs”. Just taking into account how the outer and mesh work independently then how you can use wood branches as 2 poles or to make a a frame you can use walking poles or light weight poles or even if you are in woodland use a ridge line it has multiple exit options you can use the one man half mesh inner or the 2 man full mesh inner and so much more to talk on with it. I get it’s not quite as light as some but for everything you need to make this any way you want “2 DD poles the outer a single mesh inner a double mesh inner a spool of paracord and a mixture of different titanium pegs for different grounds” it shouldn’t run you more than £180-£200 and bare in mind that you won’t need to carry everything every trip it’s just there for a time you might need it for any combo you might need so in theory if you wanted just the basic all round outer and double mesh it’s going to be about £100. I just don’t understand why it gets so little press as a option for the lower budget or the beginner or even as a more robust material?. But that would be my contender for those categories 👌🏻.

[@falkdroste9895]

Great conversation. I strongly disagree with the manufacturing defects. It shouldn’t happen. That’s why I still love Hilleberg so much. Yes they are heavier, but their quality controll and materials are just superb. It just wouldn’t happen with them.

[@tom_olofsson]

Funny that a free standing tent is considered traditional. I started camping in the early 70s and there were very few freestanding tents. Most tents had poles, guy lines, and stakes.

[@ericwilson4553]

You guys should give the Paria Arches 2p a try its a true 2 person tent that is super roomy and about 3lbs flat without stakes

[@elizab1028]

The tarptent stratospire tent had offset poles before Sierra designs and before the Xmid.

[@boredandagitated]

My first backpacking tent was the REI Half Dome 2 person tent. It’s like 4 lbs something ounces but it’s sturdy and easy to pitch. Mines from 2014, the newer ones are lighter.

[@joaquinmunoz5576]

25 inch pad guy here. Great podcast!!! It would be interesting to see the sales data from Big Agnes, Sea to Summit and Nemo regarding sales of 20 inch vs 25 inch pads. The Duplex and Xmid Pro 2 would be amazing tents if they had 50 in width floors but there has to be a reason why they were made

[@AV-om4rk]

The reason why you're seeing so many Hubba Hubbas is because it's the default tent for many rental companies. (mostly due to their high durability)

[@shayzoo2]

Would love to see someone review the duplex offset and compare it to the mid pro 2.

[@philryan6900]

Hoping to hear something about HMG MID 1 , It's the last contender against th DURSTON X MID PRO 1 .Specifically the construction as in the seams and stitching. Just listening to them chat opens up the deep mysteries for YEAH everyone.

[@hikerJohn]

If I were short I might buy the Tarptent Double Rainbow LI but it's 8 inches shorter height (headroom when sitting up) than my tent.

[@valdius85]

I agree with Steven that it is time to force the companies to call 2P tents an actual tent that can be used by two people. People hike with gear.

[@travismcgill5482]

Late on this video, but I have to say I have the feather stone backbone 2p I really enjoy the design, and while the lanshan is a great Budget tent the backbone has a bigger floorspace. I enjoyed the video.

[@jeket5007]

This video was super intents!

[@hikerJohn]

Width limits are not because of the Dyneema fabric sizes because they are turned sideways and welded together to make any size they want. It maybe makes it just a little more labor intensive though and maybe wastes a little fabric in the cutting of the pattern But I would like a tent that's wider than a single and just a little narrower than the duplex as I dont need it quite that wide. Tent manufacturers should make a wide single so you can sit up sideways in them.

[@randyholloway920]

Why the bias in favor of 25” pads? Are you too big for the 20” pads or do you prioritize plush comfort over ultralight?

[@pissedoffwizard4799]

Ok. I really am thinking about buying an X-mid 1 person. I think the regular is good enough for me. I can't decide whether to get the solid inner it's only 1.5 oz more. Most of my heights are either in Utah or Idaho. I go a lot on the cusp seasons and when I'm in n the desert. The wind always blowing . What do you think..it looks like with extra lines ,stakes and a footprint it will be about 36 ounces. The same as my Lan shan with a footprint . Can't decide!!! Help!

[@kylecaviness4067]

I own the xmid 2p solid and 1p pro. I love my solid when it’s cooler, windy or there is sand blowing. Dan has mentioned that he plans on making the inners available separately so you could end up having both pretty cheap!

[@higler.]

Steven knows his Coca Cola! The Mexican Coca Cola made with real sugar in a glass bottle is just next level. The best fuel for a long run or hike :)

[@stonedapeadventures]

was wandering what the thought process was for getting the hot box tent? do you have a trip coming up to use it. I have a few sling fins, and they are awesome.

[@nathanerbaugh9899]

Imo Single wall Shelters are only semi functional. I fully understand the Weight issue but at the end of the day the purpose of your tent is to keep you and your stuff safe and dry. If condensation can form on your inner wall like a single wall tent then sacrifice in weight is not worth it at that point to essentially sleep in a wet bag. Function is Number 1 and Weight is number 2.

[@MeOutside]

The Duplex should be in everybody’s top ten.

[@blueneet84]

How does it compare to the X-mid??😊

[@flybyguy1450]

You need to put photos of the tents you're talking about on screen, otherwise great collaboration!

[@gearprioritypodcast]

working on getting media incorporated into the video versions of the podcast!

[@ManivanAdventures]

I just got my X-Mid 1 and have to say… I LOVE IT! Lol ❤❤❤

[@karlbratby4349]

well that conversation on a back country Bidet was a tad weird....

[@stephengheen1525]

Why does no one talk about Lighthart Gear tents?

[@derekhand7904]

My 2 favorite gear nerds

[@lakorai2]

Thanks guys. Added to Durston Gearheads as a link. Great discussion.

[@normblais5120]

Osom podcast - great teamwork. Thank you

[@jenniferj7588]

Tarptent pro trail or li Treking tent too... I have XMid 2 regular and the pro trail 4 stake setup ...

[@TheAngieStoned]

I've just started watching this episode, but I need to get this off my chest immediately. Justin! You've got the sweetest smile, it's utterly contagious ❤ This bodes for an excellent day, if my morning starts out like this 😄

[@Mdogbrown]

Enjoyed this

[@rungavagairun]

3:45 ...is glass more recyclable than aluminum? I don't think that's right.

[@willgrant719]

I have used the sierra designs high route 1(xmid predecessor) its awful the bug screen is very loose and the livable space is next to nothing. I tried to move out of bivies with this tent it was terrible

[@andreameigs1261]

46:39 well it's a good thing your air mattress can double as a floatation device.

[@SrslyJonSweet]

I would like to personalize apologize for the post-traumatic stress coming forth around 19:25. 😂

[@JimHawkins1]

Was hoping to hear more of Justin's take on the Hubba Hubba. I know Steven likes it a lot. Not sure if a lot of people seen using the tent explains it being overrated . Should be based on it's usability , functionality, etc.

[@robbiefushu5724]

I have one and it’s fine. I always look to replace it with something smaller and lighter but never end up doing it 😂

[@robwenman8179]

I have the new model with the carbon fiber pulls and I absolutely love it. It's lightweight sturdy and very durable and perfect for three season use in the Pacific Northwest.

[@logictd567]

These are legitimate concerns for the paying backpacker. The xmid pro2 critiques are very mild but should be noted. No tent is perfect.

[@Pasequale100]

The right man said he prefers free-standing tent but the hornet nemo isn t freestanding. It s only semi freestanding and also needs stacks to stand properly. And for the trekking pole tents pitching on sand there exist sand pegs no? Doesn t they do the job?? Isn t it better than a snapping pole of a freestanding tent?

[@johnhernandez842]

Great information

[@bihlygoat]

I thought the “big favor” was going to be Justin washing Steven’s butt with a bc bidet 😂.

[@dsmith9572]

He's calling free-standing tents "traditional". I was using tents long before them. Canvas! The free-standing jobs are new. Trekking pole tents are a return to tradition!

[@randyholloway920]

The GG TheOne is highly unstable in high wind or driving rain.

[@edduff875]

Sling fin 2 lite👍

[@grantderozea7646]

Zpacks triplex is larger, not sure about how they did larger panels then

[@RAMtrails]

I have so many tents, why do I want more? Halp

[@danielfegley2735]

As I told Steven flat broke outdoors shows how to make your own one pole tent

[@timmo971]

I know I’m 7 months late here but why do people just pretend camping hammocks don’t exist? I realise they are generally limited to forest areas due to the need to rig them but they’re sooo good and sooo light too

[@shayzoo2]

Just my opinion but I don’t think Z-packs cares at all what people are doing. I don’t think they are thinking it’s 2 ultralighters using narrow pads at all. I’m pretty sure they know their #1 users are single thru-hikers using the duplex. They just don’t care and are going to call it a two person tent so they can charge more for it than the 1 person. The one person tents are claustrophobic. So people will pay unless they are the type that ONLY care about grams and then they usually going to just use a tarp anyway.

[@michelstronguin6974]

Durston is such a maverick that he could probably design an ultralight camp chair like the Helinox zero, that also turns into a toilet when you need one. Maybe integrate trekking poles to the design, which btw is easy to take away from the tent structure when you need to go to the toilet. You cover with a biodegradable bag, say calculate 2 bags per day just in case - super lightweight, add soil which is everywhere lol, do your business while sitting and having your hands free, what a delight! Plus for women to be able to pee sitting down is a win too. Anyway, after you are done with number 2 you close the bag and shake it a bit to mix the soil in, and bury in a cat hole you dug beforehand or afterwards if it was an emergency lol. Apart from a new kind of sleeping pad that would tick more boxes, a toilet is a comfort item that is truly missing for ultralight hikers. There isn’t always a tree to lean against and squatting isn’t helping your knees which are already getting a lot of pressure put on them throughout the day of hiking. And more and more ultralight hikers are bringing the chair zero, it just makes sense to add a tiny bit of weight and add the capability of it being a toilet. I would pay $150 for one easy, and I know many others who would too.

[@woodchip2782]

…and the toilet would have a diamond shape…

[@michelstronguin6974]

@@woodchip2782 🤣🤣🤣

[@briankeenan1023]

You are going to have to try VERY hard to get me to try a bidet. No thank you.

[@sherrylaponsee7782]

Waiting to see reviews about the duplex zip

[@MyLifeOutdoors]

One came in the mail today. I’ll be looking into it soon

[@sherrylaponsee7782]

@@MyLifeOutdoors can’t wait to hear your thoughts about it. I’m not sure about the way the ridge line attaches to the vent material….

[@donniebel]

Second the notion for tent makers to be honest about how many people their tent is rated for.

[@antiricergt]

Have you tried out the Space Acacia Camping Tent? I’m an Amazon vine member and just got this tent today. From what I seen it’s a nice tent. I dont do anything extreme like you. I just came at the local campground

[@YouTubeSafetyTroll]

Thank god that majestic beard counts as worn weight.

[@zekejones2249]

and how many tents did Steve actually buy with his own money?

[@karlbratby4349]

most over rated fashion tent... X mid 1 or 2 for sure, its ok but can be a pain in the ass