What is the difference between Clinical Psychology Doctorates and Counselling Psychology Doctorates?

[@brandenhidalgo3873]

American student here. Thanks so much for this video. It was very helpful. I was surprised to hear that UK students get their psychology programs paid for and actually earn income while doing the program! I wish this was the case here in the US. I'm looking at $100,000+ debt once I'm done with the program. I also have to work while I do my program in order to afford to support myself. Maybe one day the US will catch up with the rich education systems overseas. Thanks again!

[@mariafanamejia6535]

There are P.h.D programs in the US that are fully funded and allow you to do an assistantship (get paid while working as a teacher assistant while in school), they can be more competitive to get into but they exist!

[@DarrenJamesNI]

What a fantastically informative video - thank you. I’m currently finishing off an open degree with The Open University with modules in technology, social science, social psychology and mental health. Upon completion I plan on reading a conversion MSc in psychology science at Queens Belfast and THEN consider their DClinPsych programme 🤞

[@saskiahuntley3303]

This was really helpful! I think the focus on applications being a numbers game was particularly helpful - I know many stress over whether it’s ‘either/or’ when it comes to applying for clinical or counselling doctorates so it’s good to have the advice that you can apply to both!

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Thanks Saskia. Becky

[@RachelLow1004]

👋Malaysia psychology student here, thank you very much for the explanation the different between counseling and clinical psychology courses. It’s so helpful for my postgraduate courses I planned to pursue. ❤

[@amirbatayi3750]

Had been looking for this video for ages, thank you so much for sharing these good tips

[@Cnc-q9j]

I understand that to become a neuropsychologist, you have to either take the path of educational or clinical doctorate, if the clinical and counselling training is very similar, why don’t they accept counselling doctorate as a route to become a neuropsychologist- if the counselling doctorate includes modules on neuropsychology, are you aware if it would it be possible to become a neuropsychologist through the counselling doctorate route?

[@amatwa4328]

Thank you so much, Becky, for this video it provides such re-assurance, I applied for both routes and was starting to feel like I should be more focused and know which route I needed to get on to straight away. I have also been a bit nervous about my psychology conversion MSc course which is a pass, just missed out on a Merit. Also, a bit concerned about potentially losing significant income If I get on the counselling route, currently have a young family but really feel like this is the time to go for it. I have been a Mental health nurse for 13 years and have been really passionate about becoming a psychologist for several years.

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Thank you for sharing and best of luck!

[@jules6711]

Thanks very much for this video. I really appreciate you clarifying the difference. I’ve been confused for weeks! 😂

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Thank you for watching

[@emonie6020]

This is such a helpful video especially for an international student from the states that was offered a spot for a MSc Psychology course in which I'll apply for a counseling psychology course starting September 2022!

[@Smiithrz]

Thanks so much, this was really helpful. Do you think there's a possibility that Counselling Psychology doctorates will become funded as are the Clinical courses? Given the similarities, I am struggling to understand why the very slight differences are remotely worth spending £30k and not earning anything over 3 years. Is it simply that you have a better chance of getting onto the counselling courses, and really you're paying a premium for that benefit?

[@dr.beckyspelman]

It’s very difficult to get on to clinical, some people apply year after year and don’t get a place, counselling psych is much easier to her on to. In the UK there are loans available for these courses at a reasonable enough interest rate therefore many people get qualified faster by doing Counselling Psych. Regards Becky.

[@ngunyianitafondeck8751]

Great your explanation has given me a lot of directions thanks so much doctor Becky spelman texting from Cameroon Bamenda.

[@ReeM-wz7bs]

as a Counselling Psychology student you also have to evidence 60 hours personal therapy

[@dr.beckyspelman]

This is a key part of the counselling psychology doctorate, thank you for sharing, make sure to check out this video for more kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6XLqWd4ncl4h6M

[@sk.5]

Thank you for this video! It was really helpful

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Glad it was helpful!

[@DoNotBeABullyUseYourWordWisly]

HCPC . Thanks you for clearing things up here. Very useful suggestion.

[@user4732_]

Incredibly helpful. What advice would you have for those who aren't sure whether a career in clinical/counseling psychology is right for them?

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Both Clinical and Counselling Psychologist day to day jobs are very very similar, the difference really lies with their approaches to psychotherapy so read up on these different approaches and see which one you feel fits more with you and your potential style of working. Hope this helps

[@peterh9986]

Amazing video, thank you for taking the time to record and post it

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Our pleasure! Thank you for watching!

[@fredaaa-]

UKCP also have accredited courses. 😊

[@fatimanasri242]

Thanks for your helpful video I have a question If a person has a master's degree in clinical psychology and intends to continue her studies in England at the doctorate level. What fields of psychology is better to apply for?

[@Strawberry-cu6wr]

Does the counselling doctorate require work experience?

[@CarysiahBeautyandWellness]

is it hard to get into counselling psychology doctorate?

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Both doctorates are very competitive in the UK but with the right qualifications and clinical experience you should stand with a great chance of getting on

[@abiramikaruppasamy6088]

After completing phd in counseling psychology can I be a doctor ?

[@deboraharibo1911]

Is it possible for an international student who studied Economics for an undergraduate degree to study clinical or counselling psychology in uk

[@BLaQz84]

Can you please do a video on advice for potential Sports Psychology students, please?

[@KingstonUponThames]

Best explanation ever

[@cee4049]

how does someone manage to fund themselves for the counselling psychology doctorates? The student loan looks like it would cover the cost of the course, but how do you manage 3 years without an income?

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Some students work alongside the Doctorate, but obviously this would vary person to person of what they would be able to manage and their current situation

[@christopherwood3793]

Can I apply for a counseling or clinical doctorate with a forensic psychology bps accredited Degree?

[@dr.beckyspelman]

That’s a really good question of which I don’t actually know the answer to. The best thing to do is to email a few of the HCPC accredited courses and ask them this, in addition to this you can ask the BPS, the uni’s they will definitely reply to you. Can you let me know how you get on as I’d be interested to know the answer. Becky.

[@kiracurtin7888]

wow very helpful video thanks, im thinking of studying an undergrad psychologist degree, would you say I should wait to see what I enjoy most whilst studying it before I make plans for what I will study as doctorate ? would you say its necessary to get payed work as say assistant psychologist to gain experience before applying to doctorate or can I wait till I've finished my undergrad and then take couple years to gain experience in health sector before applying to do clinical/counselling psych doctorate? please advise on what you think is best to increase chances of being able get into unis to study be psychologist !

[@shilpabiju6330]

How is the course in ARU clinical child psychology could you please give your opinion

[@annepower3313]

Great vid thanks. What is required in order to get onto an undergrad course if you are an adult learner of 40? Does one have to have GCSE in maths?

[@xWitzLegionClan]

Instead of getting A levels to start a bachelors in psychology could I get entry with a diploma in counselling?

[@andrewvincent2706]

I have a British Passport, but grew up in Canada. I'm currently doing my Undergrad in Psych. Can I apply for Clinical in the UK?

[@alexiedowhan1668]

In terms of selecting appropriate masters courses before a PhD. In your opinion would an applied psych masters be appropriate if it is built around and incldues modules on counselling and clinical psychology with professional practice experience too?

[@dr.beckyspelman]

This would depend on what your bachelor's degree is in and also it might be useful to check the course requirements for the doctorate or PhD you would want to pursue and see if they advise any specific masters courses. Hope this helps!

[@luciasucchiarelli2725]

Hello, I was wondering if you could give me an advice. I am currently at my final year of a BSc in Psychology at an Italian university. I am a midwife, I work at an nhs trust in London, specifically in a team that specialises in perinatal mental health. I would like to be registered with hcpc in the future (as you said, better to have a solid qualification). I don't know what the actual chances for me to get into one of this courses are, I hope not too low, considering the mount of effort that this took. As you said, the biggest difference between clinical and counselling psych. is funding, unfortunately. I have been thinking about what to do in case I don't get onto a clin. place straight away. Do you think it is worth getting into a counselling psych. course (provided I get a place, obviously) or get into IAPT and try again with clinical the next year? I don't want to wast time, but I don't want to spend too much money at the same time.

[@xWitzLegionClan]

Can I be a counselling psychologist with a masters degree or does it have to be a doctorate?

[@Gigi-er1rp]

With undergraduate counselling psychology what jobs can I do, time is running I am 41 years.

[@dr.beckyspelman]

With an undergraduate psychology degree alone you can become an assistant psychologist, healthcare worker, you could also undertake some counselling training in order to become a counsellor. In order to become a Psychologist a Doctorate is required which is between 3-6 years. Hope this helps! Best of luck

[@Gigi-er1rp]

@@dr.beckyspelman Thank you with the information

[@jonnyjackson8220]

Are you still eligible to apply for either doctorates if you did a mixed undergraduate, for example a philosophy and psychology undergraduate degree. In other words must you solely do a psychology undergraduate?

[@faduma_34]

If it’s BPS accredited then you’re eligible.

[@mysterygal201]

Hi Dr. Spelman, thank you so much for your wonderful advice! I got my undergraduate degree in Psychology from the US (Majored in psychology at a liberal arts college there)- do I have to do a masters degree in order to apply to a counselling psychology doctorate? Also, are you open to being contacted over LinkedIn?

[@gatdetnyang6337]

Hi Dr great thanks for your advice any one of the clinician's most likely

[@shinkizoku970]

Can i apply for counseling psychology master with engineering degree?

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Hi you need to do a conversion course, watch this video to find out about that kzbin.info/www/bejne/fX7HY4JviriLabc

[@kas8075]

I thought you were meant to look for BPS accredited courses...

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Thats correct! Its also important to check the psychology doctorate's lead to HCPC accreditation. Hope this helps

[@Cnc-q9j]

Thank you for the video

[@Gigi-er1rp]

I am dyslexic so can I do the counselling psychology

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Absolutely don’t let that stop you as I am Dyslexic also. Becky

[@Gigi-er1rp]

@@dr.beckyspelman thank you 😊

[@Gigi-er1rp]

@@dr.beckyspelman with the undergraduate counselling psychology can you get jobs , time is running out I am 41 years

[@samueljohn1610]

Am planning to pursue Degree in Counseling Psychology.... Can i get your mail plz for more directions

[@VladyslavKL]

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[@sk.5]

Thank you for this video! It was really helpful

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Glad it was helpful!