What is the relationship between copper and estrogen?

[@mercychesed4104]

So as someone who has family members with Hashimoto’s and has struggled with copper deficiency I believe low progesterone is the common denominator. I almost had a miscarriage due to low progesterone and I definitely experienced the postpartum histamine problems you mentioned. My condition of interstitial cystitis went into remission during both my pregnancies I presume due to this increase in DAO. I think the crazy dilemma I am left with is that the low progesterone leading to copper and ceruloplasmin deficiency is the result of zinc deficiency which is next to impossible to correct in the face of low copper :( It seems that my best option is taking copper until I can tolerate zinc. This little bit of information is so helpful. Thank you.

[@jirihutecka9020]

There is no such thing as copper deficiency. The only scenario that someone can have true copper deficiency is from taking crazy amounts of copper antagonists(mainly zinc, molybdenum and vit C) long time. You have to understand that you can have excess of copper stored in organs mainly liver, but if your liver can't make ceruloplasmin you will experience copper deficiency symptoms.. Low serum copper doesn't mean that you are deficient in copper.. Copper is strong pro oxidant and needs to be bound to transport protein. If the liver can't make them the body can't use copper.. It is simple as that. So you take more and more copper, eat more and more copper rich foods and your symptoms of deficiency will be only worse. Because copper is strong neurostimulant and will burn out your adrenals and in this scenario the ability to make ceruloplasmin will be low. That means you have plenty of copper in the liver, but it is not available for use by the body without transport protein.. Doing blood tests for serum copper without ceruloplasmin is useless. Estrogen dominance in females makes them copper toxic and will make your thyroid function worse and you need thyroid to make ceruloplasmin as well. So it is vicious circle.. All the info that people mostly females need to know about copper www.coppertoxic.com/?r_done=1

[@mercychesed4104]

I’m sorry but that is not true. In the face of a severe vitamin A and calcium deficiency and therefore elevated bile acids in the gut there is a rapid loss of copper in the stool of some individuals.@@jirihutecka9020 We look like someone with Menkes syndrome - extremely pale to albino and have kinky hair every time our copper levels get especially low. Correct the vitamin A deficiency (retinoic acid) using niacin to activate it at acetaldehyde dehydrogenase and take calcium to mop up excess bile acids and then at some point you will be able to add zinc without all of your connective tissue dissolving in a disorder known as Ehlers Danlos Syndrome because of elevated levels of zinc dependent MMP’s. There is no such thing as no such thing.

[@Rick-Astley-Gave-Me-Up]

@@jirihutecka9020 You are a VERY wise person. I'm a 43 year old male and i had low copper in blood wich was weird because i ate lots of dark chocolate avocado, nuts, liver etc.. (serum zinc was fine because i do eat a lot of meat) so they put me on a copper supplement.. I felt great the first 5 days but then started feeling off and within 2 months i felt like i was going to die, low iron symptoms, cold hands and feet, fatigue, body pain, anxiety, hair loss, no libido at all, muscle weakness, caffeine intolerance, headache, nausea, you name it, i got it.. I had no life anymore. Then i stumbled upon hair analysis and because i really was so desperate, i took it.. It came back waaaaaaaaay too much high tissue copper while in blood showed low... I started taking 50mg of zinc and while that made symptoms even worse for more then 6 months, yes 6 months.. I finally start having improvements for the first time in years.. I'm so happy when i started feeling improvement that i cried a bit.. It was THAT bad, copper RUINED my life!

[@notasuperuser]

so what the fuck do we do?@@jirihutecka9020

[@Kmahersh01]

Interesting. 45 year old female. I am on bio-identical hrt - estradiol and progesterone. I just had blood work and a saliva test done which showed normal progesterone levels, with below normal estrogen levels. The bloodwork showed that I have below normal copper levels. I’ve had histamine intolerance my whole life. I also have the celiac gene and high intestinal permeability. Is it possible that the bio-identical estrogen/progesterone is preventing my intestines from absorbing copper out of my diet? I eat a very healthy diet, so the low copper is a head scratcher but explains the extreme fatigue and cold sensitivity I have had. Great video. Thank you!

[@fitlifeconrad]

Question on creatine how much of an effect can it have on libido , aggression and T if I load up on it like a high dose i notice libido through the roof same with nac and tmg.... I'm guessing my methylation is sub par and these things get it going ! Dr lynch said i have a sluggish up stream and support with b6 and nac and to take creatine and mag to free up more methyl groups let me know your thoughts

[@Drmandydcn]

So the million dollar question- what does someone do after pregnancy to prevent a rebound of histamine intolerance? Would it be prudent to take copper after giving birth ? DAO support? Histamine stabilizers?

[@namrofni6236]

Is it ok to take DIM with zinc and copper supplement?

[@Rick-Astley-Gave-Me-Up]

It's NEVER ok to take a copper supplement without a hair analysis... Blood work can even show low copper while in fact you are copper toxic.. Get a hair analysis first..

[@chrismasterjohn]

Hair is useful but not *instead of* serum, and under those conditions ceruloplasmin will generally hint at the problem.

[@Rick-Astley-Gave-Me-Up]

@@chrismasterjohn Yeah it "hints" a problem while a hair analysis "shows" you the problem regarding copper.. I was stupid enough to start taking a copper supplement because all those fear mongering "zinc depletes copper" video's. I took 50mg of zinc picolinate (not your favorite form i know) for over 20 years straight and i always felt AMAZING, until i started taking only 1mg of copper chelate along with it. I felt worse every day not knowing what the hell was going on and blood showed copper and zinc and all the rest all perfect.. I ended up at a psychiatrist while the problem was high tissue copper that i finally found out after a hair analysis. Took me 8 months to recover from that until i felt amazing again like i did for all those past 20 years i only took zinc. Copper is very very dangerous to supplement i don't care what you think about that, i know what i have been trough. It was a hell..

[@namrofni6236]

​@haza523 So what's the best way to take zinc? I've heard selenium helps keep zinc levels balanced.

[@Rick-Astley-Gave-Me-Up]

@@namrofni6236 i like to keep things simple. I got a hair analysis that showed waaaaay to much tissue copper so because in the past i took zinc picolinate 50mg for over 20 years each day and always felt amazing. I just decided to take only that again + 550mg of ginger root extract from now foods brand. Normally they had put me on 100mg of zinc, 50mg of b6 (syntethic form) and whole food vitamin c 500mg but that combo made copper dumping symptoms not tolerable. Only 50mg of zinc also gives you symptoms and makes you feel bad but i could tolerate it better. Just taking max rda (wich is 40mg for men) of zinc will not cure you from copper toxicity because you can't get copper deficiency from those dosages, wich is basicly exactly what you want to achieve if you have too much copper and it's not an ez fix.. It took me 8 months to feel like my old self again but it was sooooooooo worth it. I tried dim and selenium and lots of other stuff but everything made me feel really bad and sweaty. I don't know if it was because of being copper toxic but i feel soooo good right now that i'm not even gonna try it again and risk feeling bad again.

[@rosepearl7092]

This is brilliant.

[@guardianjackpot]

@DanPurserMD .. Thought you might like this topic.

[@SuperAmazingAnt]

Have you measured formadehyde in your home/car, dyson has new sensor. It could be more troublesome than previously though atleast for some individual, prob those individuals will also get alzheimers etc. Also it is some what good indicator does the room have enought ventilation.

[@chrismasterjohn]

I have not.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

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[@ceecmb]

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[@Ariel-oo1nc]

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[@aliendroneservices6621]

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[@nootri]

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[@Ariel-oo1nc]

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[@pursuingtruth13]

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