What is this thing?

[@samuelescalise1862]

In Italy it's called "flicorno contralto" (alto flugelhorn) and it is used in brass band to play an armony accompaniment. It's in Eb ( under the soprano flugelhorn) and today it's replaced by French horn because it's out of tune in some register

[@TWX1138]

I always heard it referred to casually as a "marching french horn" in high school marching band.

[@braegrimes8870]

Not a matching French horn or mellophone. I think the alto flugelhorn is spot on*

[@tenorman]

Yes out of tune

[@turnedkestrel1459]

@@TWX1138 Thats a Mellaphone, this is a Fugelhorn

[@adrock889]

I feel like in the right register it must sound unmatched though

[@tommasolovato5265]

Hi Trent, this instrument used to be quite widespread in Italy marching bands. It is called alto flugelhorn, also referred to as "genis".

[@romeorossi5221]

Isn't genis built in vertical position (like tubas, euphoniums etc)?

[@tommasolovato5265]

@@romeorossi5221 To be honest I don't know if genis is actually referred only to the vertical arrangement. In my experience old instruments like the one in the video have always been called genis.

[@hrnbearva]

It's bearded, it's bespectacled, and it's always a joy to watch!

[@Euphonium_boi]

That’s Trent, sir!

[@NooneSonder]

It’s called a “Horn” here in Americaland

[@FuckTrumpFuckYouIfYouVoted4Him]

No it's not

[@alessioperelli701]

As many other Italian viewers have commenti it is a alto Horn in Eb - also called "genis" here in Northern Italy. Was fairly common in bands here, many (including myself) have begun with this as kids before moving on to Horn, baritone/eupho etc. Can still be purchased, although nowadays are almost always vertical (they look like small tenor Horn, as you'd call in English brass band terminology) - this one should be fairly old...

[@majcrash]

In Eb, that would be an Alto Horn vertically, also. Tenor Horns are usually in Bb.

[@Legocoder1234]

@@majcrashno alto and tenor horns are the same besides the name

[@majcrash]

@@Legocoder1234 No, tenor and baritone horns are the same. Altos are in Eb.

[@Legocoder1234]

@@majcrash no they’re both in eb but the British call it tenor and the Americans call it alto.

[@majcrash]

@@Legocoder1234 It's the alto voice in 4 part harmony in Eb. A tenor horn is lower, because it's the tenor voice, so it's in Bb. Do the British wedge something else in there as an alto voice?

[@azxtnt]

It is a contra alto flugelhorn or alto flugelhorn, this same model of it is being sold on reverb for about 350, and it is labeled as Loudwes Flicorno contralto (Italian), or when I used Google translate it was Loudwes alto flugelhorn Couesnon also made one, though it is much different as the 3rd valve dropped the pitch by 1 semitone more or a major 3rd as opposed to a minor 3rd. My school owns one for some reason which is what led me down the rabbit hole for all this info

[@pascaldijkhuizen6600]

Wouldn't a contra alto flugelhorn not just be baritone flugelhorn?

[@azxtnt]

@@pascaldijkhuizen6600 maybe, just I now know of 2 different types of these instruments both called contra alto flugelhorn

[@evanmisejka4062]

@@pascaldijkhuizen6600 the flügelhorn is the soprano member of the saxhorn family of which the baritone horn is the baritone member, exactly one octave below the flügelhorn. It'd be a contra alto flügelhorn because it is in between flügelhorn and baritone. It is the same sounding pitch of the alto horn, so it may be more fitting to call it just an alto flügelhorn. However low Eb/F trumpets are called contra alto.

[@pascaldijkhuizen6600]

@@evanmisejka4062 I appreciate the information, but I am a bit confused. If a regular Bb trumpet is one octave above the bass trumpet, wouldn't that make the regular trumpet a tenor trumpet? Am I correct in saying that a bass trumpet has the same range as a tenorn trombone and is exactly one octave pitched below the regular trumpet?

[@evanmisejka4062]

@@pascaldijkhuizen6600 so the thing that is confusing you is what range the instruments play in standardly. You have the Bb trumpet which is a sopranos instrument because it generally plays in the soprano range. Baritone and Bass are almost exactly the same, bass is a little bit lower. The other difference is that different instrument families name range relative to a consort of that family. Contrabass/Bass are the lowest sounding members, then tenor, alto, soprano etc. A tenor trombone can play the same range as a baritone, however it does not function as a baritone voice. The bass trombone fills that voice. So technically the bass trumpet, while sounding in the baritone range, is a bass. It gets a little dicey since not every family has all voices covered, but this is the best I can do to explain it.

[@giacomodecandia4238]

It's an horizontal alto horn, very diffused in old Italian brass and wind bands

[@zoran.rosendahl]

Hi Trent, so I actually know what it is. It is indeed an alto flugelhorn and these instruments were sometimes used in the Dutch fanfare orchestra, a specific orchestra consisting out of flugelhorns, baritones, euphoniums, symphonic brass, saxophones and percussion. This type of orchestra is mostly limited to the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. These particular instruments were not used often in it, but a couple of them were used in the (Dutch) National Youth Fanfare Orchestra (NJFO/Nationaal Jeugd Fanfare Orkest) during the time Piebe Bakker was its conductor. If you want more information on the type of orchestra you can message me!

[@lapiswake6583]

I'd defo call it an Eb flugel myself, especially as the bell is to the right of the valves like most Bb flugels. I want one...

[@McJays]

Hi Trent, Jay from Transylvania again. What you have there is an Alto Flügelhorn. And although it's in the French/Belgian style with piston valves, the design is definitely of German/Italian descent! In Germany, Kühnel&Hoyer made a ton of these. They also made the regular Contralto Bb and the Soprano Eb flügels! You can still find these in these countries from time to time, even though not in any great numbers anymore! They play decently, considering they weren't great instruments (pro) to begin with!

[@beatvonmuhlenen2850]

Check out James Morrison's last gear lineup: he was playing on a Eb-Flugelhorn during his recent concerts in Switzerland. Made for him exclusive by Schagerl (Austria). Sounded amazing!

[@Torqueasi]

I'm going with Alto Flugelhorn. Definitely prewar as it resembles the build on the solo horns.

[@seth094978]

I'm going to go with alto cornet, though it is probably intended to be an alto flugelhorn.

[@Finetales]

Sounds like a big cornet, looks like a big flugelhorn. Could be either! My money is on an alto flugel, just a small one.

[@manracmolactrac]

I think a good test would be to try and see how it blends with the potential instrument families it may belong to. Trumpet, this, and bass trumpet. Flugel horn, this, and baritone or euphonium. Etc etc. And see what blends best

[@gregmonks]

What you've got there is A) a stencil (a horn made by one company and sold by another under their own name), B) a solo alto, and C) an instrument much-coveted by Jazz players. Hindemith's alto horn sonata was written for a very similar version of this instrument. They were made in European countries such as Spain, Portugal, Italy, certain Baltic states, some are in excruciatingly high (military) pitch, and depending on their country of origin are referred to as a solo alto, fiscorno, flicorno, alto flugelhorn, althorn, and a few other names others below have mentioned. A proper "Eb soprano" is an octave higher. Very rare, very hard to come by, made by companies such as E. G. Wright.

[@irishpsalteri]

My guess, and it is only that, is a military band e-flat horn, easier to play while marching.

[@carolecarr5210]

Love the sound. I want one.

[@ThomasDawkins88]

Sounds like an E-flat bass trumpet and looks like a flugelhorn. Stravinsky wrote for bass trumpet in E-flat in "Rite of Spring" which is the only instance in classical music that I can think of off the top of my head for such an instrument.

[@FuckTrumpFuckYouIfYouVoted4Him]

No such thing as Eb Bass Trumpet lol

[@msans0494]

Its most probably an Alto Flugelhorn or Althorn, probs made within the 1975-1990 years

[@alejandroamezcua2232]

For me apparently is a marching baritone AKA marching euphonium, here in Mexico city Mexico. it is actually in Bb key tenor register even though its called baritone, but it is not baritone at all, the tubing is tapered, its cousins are the Marching french horn and Eb euphonium. Here in Mexico Latin America the design may differ and have little differences from those on Europe, and here are supplied from Chinese manufacturing by factories such as Frater, Shandong crown, Jimbao, Tianjin, and so on.

[@NeilABliss]

I don't know for sure what it is, I'm going go with alto flugel.....but what I can say, is that of the three horns it sounds the best to my ears. Too bad about the tuning but that seems to be an issue for instruments in that range. Tenors, Frumpets, Altoniums , mellophones, etc all are compromised, only French horn seems to have mostly kicked the problem.

[@henkverhaar6644]

I would assume a 'solo horn' - a bell forward alto horn (tenor horn in Britspeak)

[@robertcordle1781]

Judging from the placement of the water key, it appears the third valve slide and first valve slide have been switched. This may affect tuning.

[@chrisoakmountain2387]

The secret love child of a flugelhorn and an Eb Alto Trumpet.

[@marshallelliott5488]

This one if I remember is an alto flugelhorn

[@nerdville4705]

Hi, an American here. This appears to be either an Eb alto flugalhorn, we use them here in America some, for certain jazz and mashup things, and they have even appeared in DCI. There is also potentially a chance it could be a semialto or semitenor melophone, which were a very odd and awkward instrumental experiment in the early 1900s, trying to make instruments that had size and tone halfway between other sizes. It failed and was not very common. In fact they are very rare, so i doubt this is that. No, this is almost certainly an Eb alto flugalhorn

[@rodrodriguez460]

It reminds me of an American DCI Alto Bugle (but for the three valves and the Eb key).

[@microwave_overlord]

thats a funny oboe

[@TrumpetGuy26]

It’s actually an organ 🤓

[@svbarryduckworth628]

It would be embarrassing to have such a small organ.

[@TomW2034]

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[@nyancs7098]

Works for me

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Probably somewhat exists to play the “alto sax” role in a brass-only environment. Being in Eb you could read alto sax parts without transposition if push came to shove. Though you already had other instruments that can do that. In Americaland we use the mellophone in F for this sort of range and burden horn players with this responsibility. Sounds like a pretty good medium between your large trumpet which is piercing and your large flugelhorn which is mellow.

[@xaitat]

that's a weird way to describe an alto horn

[@pauls5745]

I would guess some sort of alto flugel. very warm sound, I'm sure it's a wonderful instrument but there are many instruments in this niche

[@nicallis]

Marching Alto/Tenor Horn?

[@thomasbland6428]

Loved that you chose Webber’s version of ‘Pie Jesu’ to demonstrate the sound!

[@matthewwilson9749]

It looks like a “genis”

[@jamesburnett7085]

Glad others know what it is. I just wish I had one, because I like the sound.

[@grvan434]

Since you mentioned its key as Eb, I would estimate it as some sort of alto flugelhorn. The pinky hook on the bell seems to have me leaning toward that estimate.

[@TheBowtiedude]

I would love to see a video on the “Flugabone”!! Maybe with both popular styles ?? The history is pretty interesting.

[@jamiibear]

Since it's in between the flare rate/bell size of your "tenor flugel" and your "tenor trumpet", I'll choose to call it a Tenor Cornet

[@chasefreak]

Alto Flugel of some sort...it reminds me a bit of the Schilke flugels from the '70's, they had Alto horn bells but it was pitched in Bb

[@thetonycooper]

Hey man. Have you tried to hold it lefty. Operating the valves with your left hand and holding it with your right?

[@SilentThunder1969]

To me it looks very much like a flugelhorn, or as we call em here in the Netherlands, Bugel (bugle). FYI the company Van der Glas still exists and sells and repairs (brass) instruments. Greetings from Holland.

[@1mctous]

I hear how flat the 1st valve notes play on that instrument. It was probably built to A=435 which makes matters worse when you raise the pitch to A=440.

[@MarkWick]

Whatever this is, it has a very nice sound.

[@lotsabirds]

Maybe a flugabone! Not a joke, sometimes called a marching trombone.

[@Torqueasi]

Wrong pitch for a Flugelbone. Not trombaritone enough. Plus, its not in Bb.

[@lotsabirds]

@@Torqueasi thanks! I suspect that you are exactly right!

[@Torqueasi]

I have an Olds O21 I play on the regular. Love it to death. :)

[@michaelshelley1289]

certainly a flugelhorn....and I'd go with Alto as well.

[@ccrider5398]

While not always definitive, the fact that your right hand crosses over the bell whereas the other Eb trumpet the hand crosses over the leadpipe, makes me think it is an alto flugelhorn.

[@trombonewithlewis6015]

It might be a marching tenor horn

[@robertrandolph9824]

Is it a type of solo horn?

[@nickwright9064]

You sound great on both! What is the bore of the K&H Eb? Thanks!

[@paulagoodwin1707]

If it was in Bb I'd have called it a "Flugabone" (I have such a beast but have yet to find an opportunity to play it in anger!

[@BrassMaster84]

I'm just going to call it a tenor flugelhorn. It's too conical for it to be a trumpet of any kind.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

An Eb Alto Trumpet

[@davidhunt6508]

Isn't there usually some sort of methodology for "band" instruments by which they progress? Like an alto is x steps away from a soprano, a tenor is X steps from an alto, and so on.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@davidhunt6508 It's more of an Eb Alto Flugelhorn

[@EVersaevel]

as a Dutchy playing a 'normal' Bb flugelhorn for about 31 years, i have never seen this thing 😀

[@ryank09]

it looks like if an old former brass player tried to draw a trumpet from memory

[@markfilippone3845]

I like your response/analogy! “….from memory” (lol).

[@uni-byte]

Valved Alto Trombone?

[@Jinkaza1882]

Tchik's Andante cantabile and Rach's Vocalise must be in the universal musician's subconscious rotations. NPR here in the state had programmed several performances of each.

[@strobx1]

Tenor Trumpet

[@trumpmech]

Beautiful instrument, despite its shortcomings from a player's perspective :)

[@MA-naconitor]

An alto flugelhorn?

[@ferretyluv]

Looks like some sort of flugelhorn.

[@Bennim]

I think that it is a brass instrument. How did you not figure this out

[@blanchae]

Definitely sounded like it belonged in the horn family.

[@hakunakahuna]

I have a mellophone. Now I want one a these!

[@grande1900]

I'm not super well-versed in brass instruments, but that looks like an alto flügelhorn to me, considering its size.

[@contrabipis]

Perhaps it's an alto cornette?

[@JonBlondell]

A Kinf flugel horn from the 1930s I have one. Made by H.N.White.

[@812.hussain7]

I've seen this before actually, this is called a flugabone. there super odd instruments

[@TrentHamilton]

No, I've had a flugabone (unplayable) before, and they're bigger proportioned, have a larger bore, and are in Bb.

[@waynethomas3638]

marching tenor horn?

[@threeshot55]

I thought it was a marching baritone at first but that plays in g so I'm not sure

[@laurencefinston7036]

On another video, maybe you could play Cole Porter's "What Is This Thing Called Love?" on it.

[@OldFashionedSavior]

The flugelhorn looks like the one used in a movie called "A Man Called Adam".

[@rakutzimbel4539]

THIS is a HORN. Quote Trent.

[@NapalmSticksToChildren]

like a pitched dxdown trumpet

[@gayleedragonfly5930]

I thing it could be a sort of bass trumpet

[@apolloskyfacer5842]

If it sounds Eb, a major sixth lower than the C above Middle C, then it's an ALTO Horn. I'm going to be a bit pragmatic here and say that it couldn't be anything else.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Trent Hamilton An Alto Flugelhorn, you don't see those every day

[@R4MUSICxVx]

May be a low Eb cornet?

[@musicnerd436]

can u make a video of the Eb Alto "German" made trumpet?

[@EzyPezyLemonChezy]

My guess is a bass flugelhorn.

[@TimErickson-v7r]

Solo Tenor Horn

[@Ranzha_]

I have been looking for one of these for years!! Eb alto flugelhorn. If anyone has one that they're looking to sell, hit me up 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@nilesloughlin6845]

Judging by the lean in the comments towards an Italian Alto Horn (flugelhorn family) I don’t think my speculation is correct, but regardless, I’d be curious about a connection to the Saxhorn family of instruments if it has any Dutch origins (since Adolf Sax lived nextdoor).

[@tonisq]

It is a genis built forward me thinks

[@johnlowe37]

Not a mellophone; the flare's too small. Not a marching French horn; not only is the flare too small, but the mouthpiece receiver is too large. Not a Flugabone/flugelbone/marching trombone; it's too short (those are all in Bb) and too small overall. If it were of American origin, I'd call it a solo alto (a style of bell-front alto instrument used around the turn of the 20th century), but it's not American. So much .for what it's NOT. As for what it is? I'd defer to Zoran Rosendahl, seeing as both he and the instrument are of Dutch origin.

[@bobkrabill9073]

sounds simular to a french horn

[@Duck_Gaming15]

I thought it was a flugelbone

[@mikechad27]

I thought it was bass trumpet lmao (I actually don't know what a bass trumpet look like) .

[@lh1702]

Alto flugabone?

[@thecleaner2378]

Euflugellophone

[@finnmcool2]

There are, really, only two brass instruments. Tubas, and ways to compensate for not playing a tuba. That is not a tuba.

[@Phantas1ze]

Its an affront to god is what it is.

[@cacoutube]

Trombonito?

[@kochi3accordion]

this is a horn

[@GeraldParchester]

Flugell horn..

[@raspberryguy]

its mine, can i have it back?

[@jomarluke]

I've got something similar. It's a Hirsbrunner Eb alto flugelhorn. I should make a new video, but here's one of me playing it from years ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqiae6GlnqqmZqM&ab_channel=jomarluke

[@roughshodbrass]

To my eye it seems like a variant of an alto horn from Hindemith’s time. Rotary version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZzdo6luarupjMU

[@mikestang679]

What you have there is a grand piano, made by psycho's in hell, some think it's a horn of some type...

[@LambentSonata]

Mike, I think you're mistaken; it looks more like a Yaybahar to me. 🙂 Well, actually, after one more shot of tequila, it now looks more like a Modulin. 🙂 With enough tequila, it might start looking like a Midmer-Losh pipe organ. 🙂

[@mikestang679]

@@LambentSonata I'm sticking with grand piano, my Bacardi 151 rum, talks to me, like a George Thorogood song, "I drink alone" we can see things clearly, and know what's going on here.....