what layout is on your ball | How to find out what layouts are in your bag

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Tenpin Doctors-JR Raymond

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@echoblender Жыл бұрын

This video has all the definitions for understanding what is going on with the layout. Truly awesome! Thx JR.

@jupavalos 4 жыл бұрын

Wow I have tried and tried how to figure out the angles of the layout etc multiple times and here in less than 10 minutes it was a piece of cake awesome work excellent video one of the best I've seen.

@Mista808 3 жыл бұрын

The only thing my PSO told me that was worth writing down about the last ball I had drilled was 5 5/8 over and 1" up. These figures only represent my PAP though right? I don't think he provided me with what my layout was despite asking.

@BigJim5754 2 ай бұрын

redid my pap yesterday after big thumb pitch change (3/8th away to 0) and release change. Went from 5 7/16- 1/4 up to 6 1/4- 1/2 up and wanted to see what my current aresnals layouts were before I drill a new overseas Marvel to replace same older Marvel, but w updated pap and layout. Thanx for the info

@travistackett57 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I am trying my hardest to learn this stuff. My question is: If you play around with the PAP to Pin measurement like you said. For example going from 5 1/2 to 4 1/2 would that change the PAP? If so, then why would you do that if the PAP is supposed to the most important thing? Just trying to figure it all out.

@Bartie75 10 ай бұрын

Hi, i try to understand ball-layouts better and be able to now more how that affects the ball-roll. You ad the angle-numbers up to become a total. (in your example: 50 and 55 gives a total of 105) How does that number relate to ballmotion? Am i right to say that the lower that number is, the earlier the ball reads the lane and the earlier the ball hooks. And how higher that number is, the later the ball reads the lane and hooks later. Example: lets say we have a layout of 40°x 4 1/8 x 25° Your thoughts on that?

@jvmiller1995 Жыл бұрын

Just a dumb question but looking at you symmetric ball at 7:02 does drilling into the pin or even close to it void the warranty on the ball. I was told you need to stay 1 in away to keep a warranty. Not that it is important to people who have sponsors. That and as long as your balls are cared for and not left in hot or cold conditions it is not likely one would split anyway.

@donreinholz8121 2 жыл бұрын

Very good video JR. I guess I need one of those ball guages.

@larryhudson1963 Жыл бұрын

I want these tools as well, but I don't have much money to spend on them.

@johnniec2861 4 жыл бұрын

very informative and Awesome explanation of the various angles and the total number and their relations to the Balls motion,, Much more for the Laemans man who doesnt know all the tech info

@JamesSmith-vl8ps 4 жыл бұрын

Jr just drill a p2 4x4x2 and throw it for 12 games. You'll love it. You keep drilling your stuff long and deep with less flare. Drill it 4x4x2 and let the p2 be what it's designed to be

@lonestarpatriot876 5 ай бұрын

Great comment. I don't have a phase 2 and I by no means have layouts mastered but when my PSO asks me what I am looking for out of a new ball that I am having drilled I always say that I am looking for the ball to do what it is designed to do because that is why I bought it to add to my arsenal and that is how I intend to use it.

@Koonzbowlingbox 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for the help!

@davecallmedave3618 3 жыл бұрын

Good job man, clear and well explained, newbie should understand for sure :)

@larryschlutt7211 3 жыл бұрын

We have the exact same pap.. make your p2 4 1/2 x30. Get left and let her rip.. works great for me

@nickschneider150 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you JR I have bought a pro sect from Bowlers X and look forward to checking out my equipment.

@ronbeck8643 3 жыл бұрын

Does this still apply to a symmetrical ball drilled with a thumb hole but you’ve determined your PA P without using your thumb and measuring from the center of the bridge

@joshuapaugh8271 4 жыл бұрын

i have an iq tour and have it at 4x4x2 using the storm vector system. the ball is very predictable and smooth with that layout, try it on a phaze 2 and see what you get

@MasterGunz84 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome tip here to find your layouts on a asymmetric and symmetrical ball... 👍🏽😊👌🏽

@jimcurrie 7 ай бұрын

JR what does a layout of 5_3/4 by 4_1/2 by 2_3/4 do the Roto Grip Gem

@traviskirk3834 Жыл бұрын

I use sarge Easter grip how much different would it be from finger tip .

@shanehelm1570 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful. Thank you.

@dieseldood 2 жыл бұрын

This is great. I need a prosect now though... lol

@bowl1820 4 жыл бұрын

Don't drill half the pin out, that just makes it more likely to crack at some point. If it's that close to the holes tweak the layout so you drill the whole thing out!!

@jonwirth3981 2 жыл бұрын

Extremely helpful

@ronbeck8643 3 жыл бұрын

I was just wondering if there was a possibility you could do a video on how to determine what your layout is on an existing bowling ball when you’re no thumb bowler and how it differs from finding a layout for a bowler with the thumb. Thanks

@williamkern6842 2 жыл бұрын

The center of your grip is between the two finger holes. The rest of the measurements are the same. So when he draws a line from the two finger holes and the thumb hole then marks the center, that step is eliminated and you just use the middle of your two finger holes.

@sonnydeguzman4584 3 жыл бұрын

Helps for me as a 1 gander. Do you have a similar vblog for 2 handers?

@jamesbrusseau9194 Жыл бұрын

I have a Columbia white dot. It has a bullet core. But I don't have a pin so how do I do the same thing you did in this video without a pin to work with

@jamesbrusseau9194 Жыл бұрын

To add on I used an armadillo and found my PAP. So I have my existing drill holes and my PAP

@bubba2644 5 ай бұрын

I'm going to say the pin is drilled completely out , but in the rimg finger @@jamesbrusseau9194

@michaelli3608 2 жыл бұрын

Coach what if we put the numbers 5½x0 for sysmmertrical ball will the ball hook ealry on dry?

@sabianrapoport3018 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do one for 2 handed layouts

@vinceb7918 11 ай бұрын

I just had a Hammer N U Blue drilled this week. The pro shop operator told me that my drilled pattern is: 40x30x10; I assume that the units are in degrees ?? I was also told that my PAP is 4" across and 1" up. Why am I confused after viewing this video?

@vinceb7918 11 ай бұрын

I asked the PSO to record the N U Blue drilled pattern. He wrote down 40x30x10; that does not make much sense for me. I expect an "anglular" by "distance" by "anglular" discription of the drilled pattern. I will ask the PSO to verify his information when I next see him. I would appreciate any clarification here, if possible.

@vinceb7918 11 ай бұрын

My PSO corrected the info to: 45 by 4 by 35.

@cleonsmith7517 4 жыл бұрын

I Have a really low track what layout would you recommend

@RebelKicks-mn4kc 4 жыл бұрын

How would you do this with the VLS? I assume that it’s just laying out an undrilled ball, but backwards

@raisedread1234 4 жыл бұрын

for the virtual lessons do you work with 2 handers?

@denmanfite3156 3 жыл бұрын

Talk about a small world. We have the same wedding ring, lol

@sadboisonly1004 5 жыл бұрын

Anything different for 2 handers in trying to find the layouts?

@pequals34 4 жыл бұрын

Would need JR to confirmed as I'm not a PSO but I believe Mo Pinel said that the only real difference is the center of the grip is between the finger holes since there's not a thumb hole drilled. Here's the channel kzbin.info. Just searched "two handed" or "no thumb" and it'll bring up the videos he has. There's a lot of interesting videos around layouts on there. Mo is one of the best out there as far as understanding ball motions and layouts.

@hackprefect 4 жыл бұрын

Does it matter how you get the total angle number? For example, what's the difference between 60×6×40 and 40×6×60?

@bowl1820 4 жыл бұрын

at the simplest: The 60×6×40 will have a longer skid and the ball will tend to rev up faster and transition faster from the hook into the roll phase of the ball. The 40×6×60 will have a shorter skid and the ball will tend to rev up slower and transition slower from the hook into the roll phase of the ball. Dual Angle Info: The Dual Angle Layout Technique is made up of three measurements: 1. The Drilling Angle: Which affects the length of the skid phase of the ball. Higher angles = A Longer Skid phase. Lower angles = The quicker the transition into the hook phase. 2. The Pin to Positive Axis Point (Pin-to-PAP) distance: The Pin to PAP distance affects the amount of the flare. 3. The Vertical Axis Line (VAL) angle: Controls how long the ball remains in the hook phase. Smaller Angles to the VAL lowers the RG, and increases the total differential of the ball. This results in the ball reving up faster and transitioning faster from the hook into the roll phase of the ball. Larger Angles to the VAL raises the RG, and decreases the total differential of the ball. This results in the ball reving up slower and transitioning slower from the hook into the roll phase of the ball. The comparison of Drill angle and VAL angle is expressed as a Ratio... Drilling Angle:VAL Angle Ratios determine the balls break shape. 1. The drill angle helps determine the length of the skid phase of ball motion. 2. The val angle helps determine the length of the hook phase of ball motion. 3. The drill angle + val angle = the total length of ball motion before the ball reaches the roll phase. A. A higher ratio of the drill angle to the val angle = longer and quicker reaction to the dry. (more of a skid /snap ball motion) B. A lower ratio of the drill angle to the val angle = earlier and slower reaction to the dry (smoother & more continuous ball motion.)