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[@brian_Austin27]

Scathtach is also on the reverse side aswell, she's similar to Merlin both of them being powerful warriors and mages both have claravoince she used to and saw Cu's death which really hurt her and forbids herself to use it, its explained in the Scathtach's thanksgivings trial quest

[@kyleroman2744]

Maybe, but Avalon still exist after the Human Incineration Order while the Land of Shadow was destroyed with the World.

[@Adhjie]

@@kyleroman2744 now this beeg the question what kind of immortal shishou is in even type only lies dormant against full arcueid.

[@ThomasSmith-lb9bu]

Always ready to see the man back on the scene

[@stevepitt-ash4628]

Rule one of magecraft don't fuck with the world it bites back lol

[@whatwhat98]

Murphy law applies to magecraft apparently

[@Adhjie]

@saber 1616 wheres other type's resident then thanos at titan?

[@returneefromthemoon]

@saber 1616 types aren't planets, they are the representative of their planets also known as the strongest in their planets. the planet has will, and the being who bring this will and responsible to make this will true are called types.

[@returneefromthemoon]

@saber 1616 I've read angel notes, and they are not the planet itself, but the strongest being in the said planet, that's what I got. this is from the last page about Ultimate One, Type, or Aristoteles "Life forms that came from another planet *They were the strongest life forms on their respective planets,* and each of them had the power to wipe out all the remaining living beings in this world." As said by Fake Angel, also known as Type: Venus, if it's the planet, but why does she said it's NOT their own objective? :) *"Yes, it's not our own objective but we do. They arrived here to fullfil the wish of this planet.* ....This planet died by the influence of the life forms that lived on it. The planet itself doesn't have a feeling of grief. Even perishing by the influence of its own life forms is "All right". *A planet only carries a will, it carries no meaning.* But there was an exception. The planet is able to forgive it because the life forms follow the same fate as the planet. But the human species were able to live on, even on the dead land. This planet was frightened by the existence that kept on living on top of its death, and cried out for help at its end. Please, wipe out the life forms that are still alive." again, from the Fake Angel "The only ones who were able to hear the cry of the planet, were also planets. *I, no, we were the highest ranking of species of those planets who received the will of this planet. For example, the Aristoteles that was called the Heaven's Corpse... what I used to be, was the most superior individual on venus."* *METAPHOR* (I mark it bold texts) from Gun God's thought that probably makes you misunderstood this concept, read carefully what he thinks, and then read Type: Venus statement again WHOSE herself is the TYPE and has more knowledge regarding this than everyone in Earth/Land of Steel "Without knowing, I lost my breath. Our enemy were species that ruled over the branches of another planet, where our common sense doesn't apply. *The strongest life forms on a planet, was in other words, the planet itself. The human species who survived on this planet, to put it simple, were fighting 8 planets."* addition from Fake Angel "No...! The ones who are wrong are the Aristoteles. *They don't have any will. Isn't it a bad thing to erase lives without having a will?"* clearly, you're the one who haven't read angel notes and suddenly making assumption against me, or if I'm being positive, you just misunderstood of what Gun God and Fake Angel said because of how vague it is as it's one of the oldest works.

[@returneefromthemoon]

@saber 1616 first of all, use punctuations and separate the paragraphs, so it's easier to read, I'm not trying to be an asshole who tell people to fix their sentences, I'm just trying to avoid misunderstanding as much as possible from your texts, but I understood some of things of what you said. there are some things you said that I never ask nor I state it and you make an assumption of that, I know Type can't die, but I don't know if the requirement is to destroy the physical planet itself, and destroying planet isn't something that will happen in Nasuverse without plot reason, not even servant (though talking about servant at this point is useless). in Angel Notes, *Fake Angel also said that Type has no concept of death that is known in Earth* after Gun God said that human have killed 3 Types which the truth is they are not actually died, though she didn't say human must destroy their respective planets, but she said human has no chance at all, and then Gun God felt hopeless upon hearing that. second, where is this Da Vinci saying that planet has physical form? Type Moon did has physical body, which is similar to Arcueid (long blond hair (Crimson Moon inside Arcueid's consciousness)). he did want to conquer Earth for his alone, therefore he created True Ancestors, the incarnation of him that has his "Crimson Moon" seed. this doesn't make it stand out that planets has physical body or whatever, and Moon isn't even planet which you spoke of "planet has physical body." third, Archetype: Earth is the strongest being in the Earth, she easily surpassed all Ancestors. *and has no concept of death as Ryougi stated,* and there is also no statement that Archetype: Earth could defeat a Type if she encounter one. while being the strongest on planet doesn't make you stronger than ultimate life form from another planet, *and "defeating" someone stronger than you, doesn't mean you're stronger than them* and makes you as a Type, however, some Type are stupidly strong but they are not invincible. this applied to Zelretch, while he outshined everyone because of his feat on utilizing second magic to its full potential, it doesn't make him stronger after he killed Crimson Moon/Type Moon, but rather making him as a walking quantum time lock which is amazing feat, but not powerful. fourth, every works may fall under "Nasuverse" or Type-Moon, but they are just same universe, but different timelines, you can't connect things from that series to this series, even if they hold the same concept, *of course they are canon.* so, the strongest servant in Fate/ doesn't mean they are strongest in Tsukihime, even if they did have the method to do so, and vice versa.

[@kae1971]

So many theories has been thrown around for lost belt 6 now due to how long it’s taken. The reverse side has been bought up many times. Honestly hope it’s one of the popular theories people have bought up that will be lost belt 6. People are expecting Grand Saber, who ever Grand Saber will be(there are leaks to who it could be, chances are it’s fake since some of the other grand servant leaks turn out to be fakes).

[@smoczystrumien7908]

It be funy if it was Shiro who is in avalon.

[@RodsRetroplays]

Makes me wish to see Sieg and Shirou actually meeting

[@kadapbanar]

Ah, fake sword collector n fake dragon meeting? Wonder what they will do.

[@kyleroman2744]

@@kadapbanar And both had the same 'taste' in woman

[@T4751001]

@@kadapbanar Adventure Time Starring Sieg the Dragon & Shirou the Shonen

[@clarentknight]

Their Taste: A Saber Face

[@kyleroman2744]

@@clarentknight And their way they meet again are just the reverse of each other. And I'm curious how Seig's D(Dragon Form) fit on Jeanne 's hole

[@onemoregodrejected9369]

Lostbelt 6 of FGO will really get into this. Specially on Camelot, Albion tomb and Rhongomyniad

[@T4751001]

Gotta love that Shirou worked his way to the reverse side to be with Arturia. Same with Jeanne and Sieg. The power of bonds and will power. Some Light in the Nasuverse darkness FGO stans & Anime onlys don't get it.

[@Rodiacreed]

Power of plot you mean. There is no explanation how the weakest version of Shirou attained enough power to do it. Nasu even admitted that in Fate route he was forced to basically stick to ther universal law of power of love transcends all. He didn't bother even writing the full ending.

[@brixus2878]

@@Rodiacreed you must be fun at parties bro

[@Rodiacreed]

@@brixus2878 Funny how you shippers only really care about getting characters together but not about good story telling and reasonable progression. Am I supposed to agree with you and OP just because its more "romantic"? Petty insults doesn't make you look good or witty you know, it just shows how you have nothing of substance to debate.

[@Rodiacreed]

@@MrInuhanyou123 Tsiah just said that he got divine like power to survive being in Avalon which is in the reverse side of the world. Yeah I do know he supposedly did a ton of heroic stuff to earn the "right" to be there. He is unworthy of Saber and she is out o his league. Nasu put in zero effort into showing what these heroic deeds are to make him worthy. What did he do? Stop climate change? Wars over oil? Make it so policy isn't decided by lobbyists? Or maybe no more earthquakes in Japan?

[@Rodiacreed]

@@MrInuhanyou123 When did I insult shippers? I simply said that you don't care about progression as long as you get your ship sailed. Critisizing something is different than insulting something. You guys saying things like "you must be fun at parties bro" or "your embarrasing yourself" are the actual insults. You haven't tried to debate or debunk any of my claims. You just hurl insults and claim I don't know what I am talking about with zero deliberation. How about you actually start making a defense for your case rather than just getting upset about me not liking the things you do.

[@valdr2286]

I'm guessing LB 6. Timeline has something to do with this. What if the time of the gods never ended. Or what if the mystical beings never left to the reverse side of the world

[@brian_Austin27]

Lostbelt 2 was about that kinda

[@valdr2286]

@@brian_Austin27 yeah but it was only one god. And it was post apocalypse on the verge if apocalypse. Which might be what's going on in England. Seeing as who the cripter is. I think I've heard them say something like they do executions or something of the sort

[@bloodhunter07]

You do realis some one shot rongomenyad at us in Olympus from lostbelt 6 so it means that the texter of the world are still seperate in there

[@valdr2286]

@@bloodhunter07 I was just spitballing is all. Cause the lb 6 seems to have fairy's

[@tonyinfinite5174]

LB2 and 4 with 3 all do this and it was pretty boring apparently only Kadoc's wolf society was the only group independent enough to develop magic guns LB2-4 on the other hand the humans we're content to leaving everything up to their government and gods even if said benefactors we're doing a shitty job. Edit: spellcheck

[@Goode_Viibez]

I think you're the only one that's talked about this topic. Since they showed part of what it looks like in apocrypha, I've been wanting it to be explored more. Like what kind of place would it actually be like

[@sheanej.6901]

7:31 I know where that picture descends from.

[@flashtheshapeshafter]

Apparently a manga says Merlin helped shirou, and if that's the case that's pretty cool I don't know why I never realized Avalon is located on the reverse side of the world😅

[@grandyuri8295]

What is it called

[@haseoraki]

Always love hearing more about Fate content from TsiahVI and super thankful. But I gotta ask, if portals and holes to the reverse side of the moon are possible to be accessed, why isn't it that more mages wouldn't try to connect to that side, especially when there is so much dense mana and resources that could aid them in the ultimate goal of reaching the root? I mean, I get that the clock tower tries to keep the hush hush but to a certain extent most competent mages must know of this right? Is it just simply the matter of danger due to what exists on the other side or making an enemy of the Mages Association? Also wouldn't this mean that make multiple portals to the reverse side of the world, that it would be make holes in Rhongomyniad? So many questions. God I love Nasu.

[@ObiC]

Goat back

[@epsyblue7714]

6:02 With the power of love.

[@T4751001]

True But Anime onlys and FGO stans don't get it, only want waifu

[@cultureandhistorynerd6739]

By the power of sheer determination, will, and love that transcends time & space.

[@Adhjie]

@@cultureandhistorynerd6739 interstellar enthusiast?

[@ibukunanjorin9054]

I wonder if someone is ever gonna break Rhongomyniad one day. Cause it seemslike the planet's condition gets worse the less manner there is. A looot of Type-Moon apocalypse scenarios could have been averted if someone at least managed to weaken the barrier between worlds. You know, I think Nasu could make a series on this.

[@Mystic-jd9dy]

That's the world of Notes. The Earth is dead.

[@ibukunanjorin9054]

@@Mystic-jd9dy Its not only the world of Notes, most Type Moon worlds are gradually heading towards that inevitable destruction due to lack of mana. That's even the plot of Fate/Kallied.

[@Mystic-jd9dy]

@@ibukunanjorin9054 Yeah all worlds are technically heading to Notes but Kaleid is already there. Also Notes is only one of the ending, we also have Tsuki no sango which is different take on the end of the world where gaia has the advantage. Another possible end for manking is the one Gilgamesh and Merlin foresaw as the humanity that reached the stars. For all we know it's that version of Mankind that Created the mooncell.

[@Mystic-jd9dy]

Also the reverse side of the world kept in the sea of imaginary numbers won't be destroyed even if the planet dies. Lostbelt 6 is most likely holding itself up using that to their advantage. A world that diverges too much from the proper history of mankind is deleted by the root. But if you have one of the fantasy trees you can sustain it. Lostbelt 6 already has their fantasy tree destroyed but it still hasn't collapsed. That's most likely because Rhongominiad is being used as a pillar to support it. Note that this Rhongominiad is stated to be at it's peal abilities, beyond all the others we've seen wield it before hand. So keep that in mind.

[@TheAnaz41745]

@@Mystic-jd9dy The recent Camelot movie Part 2 shows a scene where Goddess Rhon uproots the lance and shows what it’s like under the layer, while also forming a tower with similar structure to that of the Fantasy Tree. Her plan to isolate a small part of the world with select few of human souls to avoid incineration back in Camelot singularity does use that aspect of ability Rhongomyniad has, so it makes sense that LB6 is also being kept afloat in the same way

[@izurukamakura237]

Keep up the good work man

[@_jacuzii_]

Tsiah, Could you cover the mystic eyes in the future, please?

[@davidpower5710]

So what your telling me is at if rongo ever stops working at we might see a new age of gods

[@altzerz]

Great video

[@TheArcSet]

Thanks for this video.

[@erenkruger5760]

You should make a vid about the other families like the escardos family

[@TheRedJadex]

I always love deep lore discussions like this.

[@somebody2963]

The video I've been looking for

[@hashimalz]

I’m not sure how they made it look like he tool trip to Dubai OMG i’m ROFLING Hey i got a question is Rongmyniad a spear that the gaia made as well ?

[@APrinnyDood]

Defintly. Both it & Excalibur have the same 13 seals that drop its power for every oath you fail, also the fact two other weapons that do similar things are flat out said to be made by the planet

[@hashimalz]

@@APrinnyDood thank you for the info bro

[@APrinnyDood]

@@hashimalz no prob, the spear low-key continues to have more info about it be revealed as fgo continues lol

[@Adhjie]

@@APrinnyDood planet is type tho for addendum note

[@ThatFateGuy69]

Maybe lostbelt 6 will be artoria releasing the seal from the lance reopening the reverse side of the world.

[@bloodhunter07]

Nice preview for lostbelt 6

[@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s]

*F A T E* ...Unlimited Lore

[@xigabrelless1980]

How jeanne got in? Better question is how she got into solomon"s temple of time

[@Adhjie]

@@wrought-ironheroEMIYA oh god maybe jeanne self summon herself to get out dear god merlin et al u know about this?

[@rgama1173]

She ask God for help?

[@OrionPaxG4]

Another Texture Pin that exists is Sun Wukong’s Riyu Jinju Bang

[@pyronable]

To think Daikun is doing a video of this topic soon. I will say you two need to collaborate

[@GammaMochi]

I love how the picture in the end is an doujin/hentai or wtf you call it (idk what the code is sorry)

[@Adhjie]

u shure never seen a blade in that pose for thumb only one time pixiv work at best

[@zlaikqamvs8280]

177013

[@GammaMochi]

@@Adhjie 7:34 i meant

[@adz4528]

The Reverse Side of the World has always been sth that's been so interesting

[@flygonkerel781]

Amazing

[@9Godslayer]

I think Shirou was able to get to Avalon because his Origin of Sword was connected to Excalibur's sheath. Those who know why I am phrasing it that way, know.

[@henryz4312]

U know jean d'arc bust into the reverse side for that sig D. Oh yea

[@QuintrellDemary]

I want to know more about this to they could do so much with the anime I didn’t even know this

[@DRAPION54]

Yo professor Tsiah, what happens to the reverse side of the world in the CCC timeline? I don't know much about it but the reason the holy grail takes place in the moon is because no more mana can be harvested from the Earth right? Is that a result of something being wrong the reverse side or Rhongo?

[@Sephy723]

It is suggested that the Aylesbury Valesti, the grand ritual of the Dead Apostle Ancestors established by Crimson Moon which involves the revival of the Dark Six, resulted in the world's mana being dried up in Fate/Extra.

[@Sephy723]

@@MrInuhanyou123 Here's hoping we get a proper Tsukihime 2 with the Remake

[@dragoon109]

In fgo it says humans will go to the reverse side one day, why?

[@SaeedWonka]

Humans always find a way just as how we made it to space.

[@Adhjie]

@@SaeedWonka coreect other OP said CCC is when we reach star

[@pennwolf900]

@Tsiah IV yo Would you be down to read The visual novels of when they cry I love your videos btw

[@mfwiloseintouhoubossfights9305]

Betting gudao probably goes there with mash after everything

[@CrowAkechi_The_Luminary]

Welp, Imma skiddelydaddelydoo over there cuz, I wanna see Merlin mahself and I am a big fan

[@user-bs7uu7lc6b]

Can you do a video on the throne of heroes?

[@mad-scientist]

Does anyone know where that clip was from that showed artoria with rhongomyniad?

[@user-vg9gl3il7f]

2nd day of asking tsaih to do aoife

[@criminalisticL3]

Wait. Are they making new episodes of El-Moli?

[@kodakazu8]

They still need to adapt the earlier volumes as well.

[@blurryface2o1]

Guys, I just watched the fate stay night anime adaptations and hf movies, can someone help me how to get into the fate universe? like what do I need to read or which movies to watch to go further

[@ibukunanjorin9054]

Also watch Fate/Zero and Grand Order if you haven't.

[@blurryface2o1]

@@MrInuhanyou123 Thanks friend, you too!

[@blurryface2o1]

@@wrought-ironheroEMIYA I would try them, does the fate grand order connect in any way with stay night?

[@blurryface2o1]

@@ibukunanjorin9054 I havent watched grand order movies yet

[@aayewhyy]

Joan is just op god blesses her i mean hod blessed the king of magecraft so her breakin through the hall of heroes ain’t that crazy

[@jarnahmaxux7187]

Yeah the whole thing with Jeanne leaving the throne of heroes to be with cardboard boy is still bs

[@Adhjie]

@@wrought-ironheroEMIYA wait the avalon and rhongo exist simulatneously in one timeline how? nasu said every TL is canon but simultaneously? merlin did attractor convergence to steins gate branch of in spectre or its pure brain no hereditary myths?

[@tragiclittlepikachu9632]

A McDonald's.

[@aredjayc2858]

I still find -Shirou and- Jeanne going there dumb, I don't care how long it took it's still dumb as hell. -Shirou would've needed to have transcended his humanity to get there, in which case the guy who got there isn't Shirou.- The Throne exists outside of time and space, so much so that temporal paradoxes don't affect it (See Archer not fading when Shirou was killed by Cu), but Jeanne can escape?! She's not even some OP servant like Gil or Dantes who have ways to bypass dimensional boundaries. The best she has is La Pucelle which is A) a Suicide Attack and B) Can only be argued to be able to do so due to a no limits fallacy.

[@aredjayc2858]

@@MrInuhanyou123 You're right about Shirou I'll edit my comment

[@jmspicer96]

First

[@TheTEAM-bc6kl]

First, part two