What Makes Hazard Quests Good in Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak? - Heavy Wings

[@Godzillakuj94]

Between Risens and Hazards Sunbreak really has set the bar that I hope future games can reach when it comes to having harder versions of monsters. Sunbreak's been doing super good with this stuff.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

I dunno about Risen elders. It feels more like a temporary gimmick form than an outright challenge.

[@evol_x_lillygaming4740]

@@LloydTheZephyrian Insane that they also add Hazard versions of Risen Elders.

[@Stroggoii]

Yeah adding difficulty by making move sets more complex and not just buffing monster HP and damage is great. And as demonstrated by Hazards, you don't even need to give them new moves, just give them more varied combo routes with the moves they already have.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

@@evol_x_lillygaming4740 I am aware of the Hazard Risens, which I do think are a step up, but I just wish they just stayed in their Risen form throughout the hunt.

[@WORTH-IT-MAN]

I done all the hazard quests I didn’t even know they were more difficult

[@kerm7657]

That Hazard flaming espainas charge is pretty much just how he charges in frontier

[@HeavyWings]

Yep!

[@aidans8493]

where is this quest? I have every event to date except this one for some reason.

[@Zach_thrilling]

​@@aidans8493 It's not publicly released yet, but there's a mod on pc that unlocks all unreleased event quests. It's in the game but just not released

[@aidans8493]

@@Zach_thrilling ahh I see. Thanks!

[@TartyTart]

Hazard quests are amazing, they are just so fun and equally difficult and feel so rewarding once completed

[@HeavyWings]

Yeah I love them. Hopefully they add even more in the bonus update!

[@jrpgnation6375]

What reward? Beating them is not reward for me. Is just another check list that doesn't respect my time for doing it.

[@dragonslayer3552]

​@@jrpgnation6375 you are missing the point the reward isn't something you get at the end it's the experience as a whole the fact that you feel like you are rewarded with a victory Mh is not all about making builds sometimes it's about the experience not the reward

[@RXH14]

@@jrpgnation6375 you forget that MH is mostly an action game series, fighting EX monsters are the pinnacle of your skill from the moment you started fighting them in low rank all the way to G/Master rank and it’s the best way to see if you’re still on your toes. Imo it’s the perfect way to end off a grind In an MH game, this is why I love Deviants so much in GU…

[@cynicalgold9992]

​​@@RXH14 except EX deviants give rewards, being a new pigment and the ability to transmog their armor. hazards award quite literally nothing outside of "yes, i beat this thing". not to say hazards are bad, as i like them, but they could at least have a reward. it's similar to apex monsters in base rise as in they're fun to fight but there is next to no reason to do so

[@annalenafreund6684]

I love Hazard quests, i like the idea that you just take a monster make it a littel bit stronger and harder and Boom Hazard Quests

[@HeavyWings]

Exactly, especially because it's more than a simple damage boost.

[@annalenafreund6684]

@@HeavyWings its Like a new Variant

[@bass2126]

I think this is more of a concept that major Capcom games follow, higher difficulties to them doesn't just mean inflated numbers, they sometimes alter the level design such as with Resident Evil or with Devil May Cry all enemy encounters are remixed, it's a brilliant thing that shows they respect the players investment into their games & gives them the full potential of their games, higher difficulties aren't an afterthought like with many other games & that's part of why I love Capcom games so much.

[@Doomguyhunter1]

I think that scorned magnamalo HAS TO get a hazard. His fight is already amazing but a harder version would be perfection.

[@HeavyWings]

Oh yes please!

[@emperortethysusdacertified8175]

I'd kill for a Hazard Scorned that actually uses the crimson dragonfire for more than just his ult attack ngl

[@Amatsu_storm_approach]

Welp,he got it,happy?

[@tamango_skyes8074]

As an old school Tigrex fan, it would be nice if they gave him back his aggro and full power roar, Rise iteration of tigy is like a kitten compared to his 3DS versions. Maybe even give him Grimclaws ground pound where it creates a massive explosion as his super move.

[@Stroggoii]

A Hazard Allmother event quest that rewards us a Stormsoul deco would be the cherry on top.

[@HeavyWings]

Honest to god they need to let us augment that armour. I understood that at the time of TU1 it would have been a bit too strong but now the armour is basically USELESS!

[@cr-volcanic]

This is a really good, well crafted, and thorough video that explains your points really well, and you're talking about an aspect of Sunbreak that has gone very underappreciated and underdiscussed. I think the comparison to the HC monsters is pretty accurate. I think more than anything I'd want to see a hazard gaismagorm. I think it's a bit odd that he hasn't had an event quest and I really wish he was more difficult, but I'll take anything, the Hazard monsters are very good

[@dumithegreat3892]

if they gave the Hazard monsters blue eyes, then they would just be Sunbreak’s Hardcore mons lol. hard agree on Hazard Gaismagorm too, he is mandatory. absolute chad of a final boss, just sitting there… forgotten by all, but speedrunners lmao.

[@Amatsu_storm_approach]

The rajang base figth istself was never as good as the L.nargacuga and violet Mizutsune ones,the hazard figths wouldn't be different

[@dumithegreat3892]

@@Amatsu_storm_approach what is this in reference to??? sure, Hazard quests won’t completely overhaul a monster, but altering AI in a way that changes entire combos, speeds and slows down telegraphs and attack animations, and especially giving monsters shit like Risen Shagaru’s fake-out double wingarm slam… Hazards do make a difference, it’s just that Hazard Rajang is barley any different, and Rise Rajang is doo doo trash

[@Amatsu_storm_approach]

@@dumithegreat3892 Iceborne rajang was pretty good,but just a few things can compete figth-wise with Violet Mizutsune and lucent nargacuga.

[@DustoVonSusto]

​@@Amatsu_storm_approach iceborne rajang is an absurdly overtuned mess

[@fishnutz5196]

Hazards are just the warm up for the Level 300 EX Risen Dragons haha

[@bigthecat4276]

Honestly, I think the metal Rath's can be fantastic Hazard difficulty candidates. Silver Rathalos in particular is already an incredible fight imo, so to see it juiced up even further would be great

[@meshie5958]

11:36 I was expecting Goku but what I got was a subtle Dio instead. Well played🤣

[@peridrawland5955]

I KNOW, i know that we used to call insta-charges bs, unfair, actual trash design... SO WHY AM I SO GENUINELY HAPPY AND GIDDY TO SEE INSTA-CHARGES BACK WITH HAZARD FLAMING ESPINAS??

[@HeavyWings]

Because now it's something unique!

[@Stroggoii]

Because it's not Rathian spamming triple insta-charge into double tail flip into triple insta-charge

[@shitpostingstevebecauseall6279]

I need to see a Hazard quest for Garangolm and Goss Harag. It's probably not gonna happen, but I really wanna see these monsters balanced around endgame gear

[@tamango_skyes8074]

A Golm with CGV speed and Risen Shagaru level of aggro would be terrifying.

[@momentoyal930]

well golm got one at least!

[@phenix2403]

The moveset changes are the key, stat increases alone suck as a difficulty increase. Also, idk if they do or not, but there should be some unique reward like a layered armour for these tougher quests. It just makes it feel more complete when there is a reward at the end

[@hughmongus6959]

Can confirm this was a thing for World. The archtempered elders would give tickets for alternative versions of their layered armor 👍

[@abyssalrayz9499]

@@hughmongus6959Arch tempered is not the hazard equivalent. That would be risen.

[@alderwield9636]

hazard flaming espinas basically brought back the most bullshit thing in old gen which was insta-charge (albeit a tad slower) and im here for it

[@DarthDookieMan]

Is there a Hazard ver. Scorned Magnamalo? I feel like that's a given for this update considering Risen monsters already have their own.

[@tequilafeline6552]

When they add underwater fights again to a monster hunter game i want namielle to be one of the flagship monsters

[@crono6874]

That's not how flagship works. A flagship has to be a new monster introduced in a new game. So for example if MH 6 brings back underwater combat most likely the flagship of that game would be a new water Monster. (Likely a Leviathan or Piscine wyvern)

[@teero121]

That sound really cool tbh. It is too little too late for me and I haven't even tried Amatsu yet. At least this system gives me confidence for MH6.

[@imthe_catman]

Praying we get Hazard Flaming Espinas soon, The espinas' are some of my favorite fights in Sunbreak and I was incredibly disappointed by the hazard Rajang having the most minimal of changes and I feel they need to redeem themselves for that.

[@destinystriumph1573]

I- Flaming Espinas Hazard is in the video and the game. It’s in events and not just a base quest from the sounds of it

[@imthe_catman]

@@destinystriumph1573 It hasn't been released yet, at least not publically. Pretty sure he's using a mod that accesess the game files.

[@destinystriumph1573]

@@imthe_catman Ahhh, makes sense. The instant charge animation did look a tad off

[@imthe_catman]

@@destinystriumph1573 NOW, Flaming espinas is real

[@destinystriumph1573]

@@imthe_catman ikr 😂 ya wished ‘im into existence

[@spinomania1921]

Personally i think that outside of rajang, every hazard monster so far should've been how they were from the start, especially violet since he spends less time being way too far away from your hunter. Maybe they could've given flaming espinas a smoother transition to his charge though

[@drxavier1870]

I hope we get Hazard forms of final bosses like Giasmagorm and Amatsu after the Malzeno Variant in June, and hopefully Allmother Narwa even though she already has a Super Event

[@lubbo5261]

Wasn't it announced that every Monster in Sunbreak will get a Hazard version?

[@drxavier1870]

@@lubbo5261 No? I mean i know a few that were leaked but definitely not every single one

[@kyogrecrown5869]

Bombs iver gogmazios has him start in phase 2, so when he starts flying you might not have gotten enough binders to stop him from wrecking shop at that point

[@HeavyWings]

Oh my god I remember that one lmao

[@TheDaemonDD]

You should give the special investigations a look too. I have a pretty similar feeling with those as the more simple hazard quests like flamespinas and rajang.

[@vivid8979]

Special Investigations are kinda boring ngl...

[@glomorailey106]

Hazard Monsters are one of two things: Significant reworks to moves and chains (Violet, Lucent) Or removing limiters and buffing moves to make them NIGHTMARISH (Flaming Espinas) What a fucking brilliant choice across the board.

[@ieyasumei4339]

It could be a Malzeno variant for the new monster. It's chest bears the same resemblance as Malzeno's. Same with it's claw, just without the extra fluff that's there. The wings are also the same, but without the normal tearing that Malzeno has

[@HeavyWings]

Could it really be Malzeno? I don't know to be honest, seems far more likely to be an Arzuros.

[@ieyasumei4339]

@Heavy Wings Oh you may be right. It's a new rare species for it

[@Amatsu_storm_approach]

​@@HeavyWings It was leaked It was a great izuchi rare species,sorry.

[@furnoprime9439]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Amatsu_storm_approach Excellent. Now my good scythe-tailed friend can confidently quote Dumbledore in saying "I RUN THIS SHIT!" as he stands tall upon the beaten bodies of Elder Dragons & Scorned Magnamalo and ascends to _GOD HIMZUCHI _status. Finally, my good fellows, we shall soon bare witness to a proper Bird Wyvern Brawl like no other.

[@amv_meta]

The best end game from all MH games tbh

[@NeoSwordsmanZ]

11:36 I almost didn't catch that edit with Rajang lol

[@freddoesvox9033]

The Hazard Flaming Espinas hasn’t been released yet though? Im confused

[@spark9189]

frontier actually had two more special harder quests on top of hardcore. there were zenith monsters, which have certain body parts bigger and have new moves, and there are peerless monsters, which kill you 5 seconds into the fight.

[@herrdelta1483]

I haven't fought hazard flaming espinas because I don't have the quest. Anyone else have this issue? I've looked through my quest list multiple times and haven't seen hide nor hair of it.

[@itscoolthough419]

what about quest rewards? how are they different? if at all.

[@Mariofredx]

I totally agree that Hazards should’ve been the default difficulty, part of what makes fights fun is how tough it is. Rise had the potential to be the most batshit insane game in terms of difficulty in my opinion, and it would’ve been interesting if we had seen that. Really they should’ve just fix the tracking problem it had at launch or actually make the monsters faster. In a game where combos flow into each other much faster and rolling is faster, the monsters haven’t really been sped up by that much in my opinion.

[@miiverseisdead4942]

They did decrease the tracking slightly in an update after Sunbreak launched.

[@Mariofredx]

@@miiverseisdead4942 Which made the game easier. The weird tracking problem it had wasn’t exactly fixed.

[@Joe-yx1gq]

Welp GUYS HAZARD AMATSU IS BEING ADDED Just in a Day or 2

[@djdedan]

Risen velkhana would be nice.

[@mememasterjames2070]

Funny thing. According to the datamines. Our mystery variant is getting a hazard quest

[@miiverseisdead4942]

Hazard Espinas was released two weeks ago? I thought the quest was released yesterday (Wednesday May 24th). Maybe the people that run the Monster Hunter Twitter forgot to advertise it before yesterday? The developer run is supposed to be released soon too. 🤔

[@miiverseisdead4942]

I know its kind of demanding and maybe a little redundant, but I'd love hazard versions of Allmother, Ibushi, and Gaismagorm. I don't really care about difficulty, I just like seeing monsters get moveset changes and alterations. I love watching animations. 👁👁

[@kip4993]

oh I didn't know the new version of risen were called hazard, I was calling them EX (extreme) risen

[@HeavyWings]

Tbf I don't think they're officially called Hazards. But it works as a nickname since like the hazard quests they get special additions.

[@masterhind2036]

Has Hazard Flaming Espinas released yet or are you using mods to access the event quest?

[@HeavyWings]

Yeah hacks. It was added in TU4 but the event hasn't officially released yet.

[@Goji-Moji]

“They differ from past difficulty quests because they actually change the fight” he says while showing a clip of 4U G-Rank Crimson Fatalis 🙃

[@JanusHoW]

There's two Hazard Quests that Sunbreak lacked - a Hazard Amatsu that was apparently cut at the last minute (it's apparently hiding in the game's data), and a Hazard Gaismagorm - the one we have just can't handle Anomaly 241+ endgame sets well. All of the other Hazards were good, or even great. The changes to many of them were more subtle, I think. But I really enjoyed the Risens a lot more. In 4U, Elders never really got upgraded other than the odd "Super" event quest versions that just had more health and did more damage, as they did in GenU - even while other monsters got Frenzied/Apex and Hyper versions. I never played Worldborne, so I can't say anything about the Tempered and Arch-Tempered Elders. The Risens, on the other hand, were a real step up. I loved how they all seemed like truly diabolical versions of their base selves. Risen Chameleos seemed to revel in spread its poison; Risen Teostra was a mad tyrant that incinerated all with its fire as it abused both its blast and fire abilities; Risen Kushala was a raging storm that even poison couldn't truly slow down; Risen Valstrax was driven so insane by the combined pain of his damaged Dragon sac and the Qurio that he would burn down the world with its Dragon element; and Risen Shagaru was the truest form of a fallen angel, even more than Gaismagorm itself.

[@mallow2902]

Well, Hazard Amatsu made its way into the game.

[@chito2701]

All I want is a Anomaly Lucent Nargacuga, Violet mizutsune and Risen Velkhana.

[@TruePeaceSeeker]

They should've do this from the start. It gives such a good first impression

[@izzymosley1970]

Aren't special investigations similar to hazard quest too? I'm surprised you didn't mention them in this video.

[@HeavyWings]

I haven't unlocked any of them because I haven't had the chance to do much anomaly grinding lmao. Real talk though; they increase the size of explosions and projectiles but otherwise aren't so different. Hazards are much more substantial. But perhaps it would have been better to mention them. Oh well.

[@izzymosley1970]

@@HeavyWings I haven't done them yet either but they definitely have different combos I remember that special investigation risen crimson glow after its bigspin attack instead of doing 1 super trust does 2 it also seems like they move faster and have different combo routes I haven't fought one yet but I have seen a few speed runners fight them so that's how I know this.

[@rohanthomas6629]

@@izzymosley1970 Risen Harzards pop up much earlier. Special Investigations have all the changes from before, now having all the bigger AOE and projectiles. So technically they have all the same changes as everyother Special Investigation.

[@Kamelosk]

i bet everyone got caught by the third tail slam from hazard lucent the first time hehe

[@2010supersonic]

Hardcore Rajang is like Super Saiyan 3

[@vivid8979]

Hence the Reason I'm highly disappointed with Special Investigations.... Rather than being creative and upping the danger-factor of the hunt Capcom relied on raw HP and damagr buff to induce more challenge which imho is the laziest way to do it... Here are some ideas and easy way to make Special Investigations interesting: 1. Monsters will never leave Delirious mode.. You can topple them yes but they will return as soon as they stand back up.. -Doesn't require any insane balancing... 2. Removing spiribirds in the map ala "Gathering of the Qurio Quest".. 150 HP on lvl300 monsters can be quite scary at times and can indeed punish you if you're not careful... 3. Monsters are almost immune to trap / flash bomb to avoid cheesing.... Seriously Non-Elder dragons are a joke when you Spam Traps on them.. 4. They gain a new mode where for a brief moment their Attack Animation will be even Faster... Now this will require a bit more resource from capcom since they need to balance stuff but it will be a nice addition and investment imho.. #1-3 doesn't require any new assets or heavy work-load for Capcom to implement... To balance things out as well the HP scaling and Damage can be slightly reduced compared to the current Special Investigations...

[@imahaloguy]

Wait are Apex Diablos, Mizu, and Zinogre in the anomaly pool? I know that Arzuros, Rathian, and Rathalos show up. But I've never seen those three.

[@HeavyWings]

For Sunbreak on Switch and Steam they all are. For every other platform I think it's only Arzuros and Rathian right now.

[@imahaloguy]

@@HeavyWings so they were added recently? That’s cool, I like Apex Diablos a lot! I need to grind anomaly rank…

[@Rusty_Spy]

Wow rise really brought back the old frame 1 charge for flaming espinas huh?

[@djdedan]

I love the hazards, but they may be even easier to make than you say because the hazards could have been created during regular development but when tested they were found to be harder than expected so they were saved for later. The normal version we play could have been the tuned down version that would later become the hazard version. Of course this is all theory but it’s possible!! “But sir this lucent is too difficult!” “ ahh ok, we can leave that for the hazard quests!”

[@ChemyChem]

Man just leaked the hazard flaming LOL can't wait

[@HeavyWings]

Their fault for not releasing it! It's been in the game files since Title Update 4! Hell they showed it in that presentation lol!

[@IWestrada]

Mhw had technically had 4 dlc monsters made from scratch (in a mh engine). Safi, Kulve, and the two collabs

[@abyssalrayz9499]

I really hope hazard monsters become standard g rank difficulty in future MH games

[@lyonsrobbie999]

What are the two brand new monsters? Safi'jiiva and...are we counting Frostfang Barioth? He was a never before seen subspecies. If not him, then I'm blanking on the other.

[@HeavyWings]

Kulve Tarroth in World. She was new to the game.

[@lyonsrobbie999]

@@HeavyWings That's right! How could I forget.

[@moonweavers3746]

Just out of curiosity, do you still not use mixed sets when playing?

[@HeavyWings]

I made this really sick mixed set some time ago using Risen Chameleos and Gold Rathian pieces that let's me buff up whenever I evade. I get status trigger, adrenaline rush and bladescale hone, and combine that with evasion+5, Buildup boost, Foray and more I'm effectively just dodging through everything and never sharpening. TU5's new additions means the set can be optimised even further, but I haven't done much anomaly grinding to do so just yet. Generally I don't use mixed sets unless I see a really cool opportunity like this one.

[@slowloris7438]

And when can I hope to experience these on PlayStation? I’ve done the apex emergencies and want to do these as well?

[@HeavyWings]

Hazard Quests are a Title Update 4 addition for Sunbreak, so they're gonna be added to Playstation and Xbox sometime in the summer I think.

[@somerandomdude7785]

The Metal Raths should have Hazard Quests too.

[@kambo954]

the last new monster is very hard to tell who it could be. i really dont know what monster that could be its really a mystery.

[@HeavyWings]

Could be the return of Kecha Wacha potentially

[@kambo954]

🤣

[@freshboy3968]

@@HeavyWings lmao

[@jeremiahbryers4963]

My honest opinion is that advanced quests should be what hazard quests are. The name advanced implies you need experience with the monster beforehand if you want to stand a chance at beating it. Therefore, you can do that by changing the movesets just like hazard quests do.

[@HeavyWings]

Nah it's good to have different tiers of difficulty. Normal, Advanced and Hazard would work just fine in future.

[@ahmadbugshan9603]

before i watch this video i want to say this yes hazard quest are much more fun and satisfying than normal hunts but imo they should have been the normal hunt they are not that much harder in terms of moves they just have cooler combos that should have been there from the start imo and a hazard quest should be the AT level hard to satisfy the people who want super hard quests they will have a lot of HP, damage, speed but they will also have 2/3 new moves 1 new super nova and 1/2 normal maybe u have the same idea maybe not but imo base rise and base sunbreak(not counting TU) were too easy its almost a spam your attacks on the target to kill them title updates felt like how it feels to fight tigrex and narga from world a challenge spike that is satisfying but that difficulty should have been there for most monsters with MR 4 stars and a above and the title updates should be for hard quests yeah sure rajang in world had a little too big of a difficulty spike for the first TU but man it felt SO satisfying finally beating it and i never felt that with rise which makes me sad because that is my fav part of MH 2nd to the ecology and sadly rise wasnt as good as the older titles in both of them but focused on the hunters moves which felt less satisfying for me but most people love that which i totally understand to summarize what im trying to say: im a bit sad rise simply focused on the hunters moves while skipping the ecolgy/details and making the quest easier for the sake of accessibility and while hazard quests fix that i would MUCH rather if the difficulty was like world/borne BUT hunters that are not too good can utilize the environment to make the hunt easier (but it will take longer luring the monsters to traps/ a area that they are not effective at like velk in a hot area should be weaker than in a cold area you satisfy the difficulty goblins and you satisfy the casual hunters and im a mix of both i love using the environment and i love hard quests

[@ahmadbugshan9603]

2:06 this is exactly what i wanted to know and im glad im not the only one that feels like this

[@bobsmith8405]

We're just slowly preparing the mainline to go full Frontier mode. But I'm still waiting for Super Saiyan 3 Rajang in mainline

[@Amatsu_storm_approach]

No way,actually

[@lubbo5261]

Every MH of the Portable series becomes more and more Frontier with every new game.^^

[@jrpgnation6375]

About flaming Espinas. You forgot or don't know this but after he nuke you. He can stay in the air and fire gigantic ball of dead explosion. So assuming you dodged it first charge up nuke. There second one coming your way to finish the job.

[@HeavyWings]

The second one was always a thing he could do when his health gets low enough.

[@jrpgnation6375]

Weird. I only encountered that attack recently.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

Doesn't Seregios have an Apex form in 4 Ultimate?

[@HeavyWings]

Yeah but so did seven other monsters. It's not really special.

[@eawavy2316]

@@HeavyWingsbut velk also doesn’t have another form

[@SeekNeo]

But what about the rewards? If there are no special rewards then why would I do these fights?

[@micahfurlow2624]

A few event hazards give you guaranteed crowns and maybe some melding materials (like the garangolm one), but otherwise hazards are mostly just there to give a unique challenge to the people who want one.

[@gudfighting7157]

Do they have increased health

[@lubbo5261]

Some have.

[@silvshi9302]

I really like the hazards because of the difficulty. Despite rise being my first mh ive found both base game and sunbreak incredibly easy (maybe im carried by 700 hunts in lance). But with all the new harder stuff like the risen shagaru and valstrax and the hazards (to a certain extent) I feel like Im in genuine threat of triple carting, making the game a lot more fun. Just wish they would stop putting content on rise already lol, got world recently and after rise finishes gonna hop onto that and start lancing there XD

[@Raisera]

Well, Lance is fairly easy to master. There will always be a difference between a good Lancer and a Speedrunner Lancer, of course, but it's incredibly easy to stay alive and deal damage thanks to the amazing defensive potential of Guard Dash (or Guard Dash + generic Counter in World). Even mastering Instablock takes no effort because it's so easy to perform in Sunbreak. Not saying that being a Lance main invalidates your success or somesuch, don't get me wrong. I am just answering your question and, yes, as a Lance main, you rarely die if you know how to play the weapon at least somewhat well, which is not hard to do at all.

[@LewisCochrane-r5v]

So bro turns super saijin 3 now

[@athos9293]

Fight more Hardcore monsters. They're all worth trying.

[@HeavyWings]

Yes for certain!

[@athos9293]

@@HeavyWings GHC Berukyurosu is a completly different fight

[@somerandomdude7785]

"Seregios is the only flagship monster to only have a base form, no subspecies or variant." Uhh... Velkhana?

[@jeronym894]

I know we have inaf magalas alredy but I dont care I want Hazard chaotick!

[@nicht_nice]

i only played hazard without realizing that their harder cause i havent played theyr original counterparts😂

[@percivalomerta1290]

Malzeno

[@higgsbosonfan]

11:36 🤨

[@ApexWolfPR]

Never been so early to a video

[@cynicalgold9992]

werent instant charges one of the biggest complaints about older mh games? why is hazard flaming espinas being praised for bringing this back edit: i found hazard rajang to be extremely disappointing as it seemed no different from normal rajang in any way and didn't provide any difficulty. hazard monsters are fun but hazard rajang just felt like a normal rajang

[@Tommyvang187]

Thats because now its used in patterns still, (hazard flaming), back then, it was straight up trash, like Yian Garuga doing an instant charge at anytime it was capable of, AND it was frame 1 AND cancelable by the monster, so if it hit you, Yian doesn't keep charging, oh no, he just straight up gets to animation cancel his charge into literally anything else, sometimes even doing 3 insta charges back to back through animation cancels if your very close to him. It looked like stutter stepping with a character by very quickly changing the direction of the analog stick to change directions.

[@jrpgnation6375]

If we are talking about Lucent rank Hazzard. Then absolutely. But if we are talking about emergency apex. You are fucking high.

[@ahmadbugshan9603]

i think iceborne needed a little tweaking sunbreak should have not made it so u need MR 100+ to fight risens 100 is enough any more than that is simply annoying iceborne should have not made fatalis MR 24 but it should have been MR 50 and you needed to get 1 of ur guiding lands areas to level 7 first alatreon you would need to get it to level 5 and MR 50 raging brach you would need 2 level 3 and MR 30 the rest are ok as they are

[@spilleraaron4748]

Yeah…I don’t find hazard quests to be fun due to the damage and health buff it just makes the fight feel bloated and extends the fight making certain annoying aspects about the monster more prominent. I’ve beaten but it’s not something I’m gonna be returning to when even 1000+ defense armor is nothing more than cardboard. I know I’m probably alone on this though.

[@jnjuice1690]

The Hazards don't satisfy all players. Removing the telegraphs basically cheapens the fight and given that the hitboxes are broken dumb, there are certain fun aerial playstyles that just stop working on hazards because you have to account for the phantom hitboxes. It feels worse than artificial, it feels arbitrary and just hard for hardness' sake without considering the fun. Since you can't practice hazard fights by learning from their non-hazard counterparts, the only way people learn the fight is by learning on the fly and fighting the hazard monster, and not everyone learns that way. Had the "hazard difficulty" been incorporated difficulty setting people can gradually ramp up, instead of a meaningless separate quest, we wouldn't have this problem. Beatable? Sure. Done it so many times I lost count. Satisfying? Nope.

[@lubbo5261]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

[@KogasaTatara514]

Completely agree. Ignore the guy saying skill issue above. Adding broken hitboxes and removing telegraphs is just stupid unnatural difficulty. Difficulty in a quest should be warranted through more complex movesets, and maybe some extra damage and HP on top of that. Hazard quests do that... On top of adding the issues listed above. It's just not fun.

[@jnjuice1690]

@@KogasaTatara514 Thanks. Good to know there are sensible people in the MH Community.

[@Benri05]

Glad this game is at the end of its life

[@buckyoufaltimore]

Hazard quests are just the usual lazy tactics by Capcom, trimmed down the intended difficulty to a vanilla one as the normal quests then call it a stronger version. Remember when the ver 1.0 rise had a hr lock at hr7 and not giving you the four elder dragons?

[@itapproaches3484]

You literally just contradicted yourself.... How are you gonna call them "lazy" when they went the extra mile to actually differ the monster's movesets? Do you think they had these on ice and intended to release them as the base monster but they then decided to take these moves away and repackage the original versions of the monsters as "hazards" because that still sounds like way more work and is also an argument appealing to ignorance here, again you contradicted yourself, made a ridiculous assertion etc, need I tell you that the hazard versions of these hazard monsters weren't in the game's data until the update before the releases of these quests? aka we didn't have hazard violet Mizu's data in the game until Tu4 released...

[@buckyoufaltimore]

​@@itapproaches3484 bro the whole roadmap of TU had to be decided even before the release of sunbreak, the datamine stuff are just placeholders, not exactly mirroring the development progress. The existence of "Hazard" quests are confirmed by capcom when the monsters are designed.

[@wayofthekodiak3118]

I agree. I would rather have the difficulty of the monsters ramped up from the start. The extra space could've been used to add more monsters. The roster of monsters in sunbreak is pretty boring.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

Doesn't all this just feel like padding and filler?

[@HeavyWings]

No? Not really.

[@wayofthekodiak3118]

Absolutely it does. With the lackluster monster roster, you could see so much more missed opportunities. Why fight different monsters when you can fight the same one 5 times?

[@unicorntomboy9736]

@@wayofthekodiak3118 I would say Monster Hunter Rise & Sunbreak sufferers from feature creep more than anything else

[@HareHeadGFX]

Sunbreak (the expansion) was mostly awful overall both conceptually and in execution IMO, but I'm entirely happy woth how they handled hazard monsters and I hope they continue to do things like this in future games, hopefully for as many monsters as possible.