What makes someone a 'feminist'? - UpFront

[@munaali6998]

The script was flipped with this one. A white woman who's radical feminist debating with a Black woman who is a lean-in liberal feminist.Murphy's arguments were more convincing, compelling and well thought out than Wilson's IMO.There were times when I think Jamila was having a completely different conversation like she wasn't on the same footing with Meghan.Goes to show that how truly the term 'woke' 'intersectional' have lost all meaning.

[@BlackPrimeMinister]

How was Murphy's position more compelling? An extremist is always "convincing", even if that is only to themselves. Note how the flame-haired one pulled a Neo to dodged a bullet on the Muslim women/ Niqab question. What was so convincing about her fudge? She speaks endlessly about "colonialism, racism..." but is a classic White Feminist imperialist, determined to dictate what feminism is to her dark-skinned "sisters". Sounds pretty patronising to me. Doesn't it share the same Latin root as Patriarchy? Maybe they have something in common, after all.

[@garageautonomist2258]

I agree Muna. It is true the script was flipped.

[@MidnightIsolde]

Jamila relied too much on buzzwords e.g. talking about "the need for nuanced analysis" when in reality you show nuanced argument and analysis by actually practicing it, not just talking about it. Very common issue with liberal feminists and sjws is the tendency to talk in word salads and mentioned certain words (e.g. 'nuance'; 'intersectional'; 'problematic'; 'systemic analysis' etc), but it's often all talk and no action.

[@mellejobs7412]

Also Meghan Murphy is blatantly anti-Trans and believes Trans women should be excluded from women's spaces!

[@RapidBlindfolds]

i was just thinking about this - murphy talks about prostitution, jamila responds by talking about...war?

[@thunderstorminmyblood3705]

Meghan was totally lucid, convincing, and fantastic as usual!

[@somanyplacestogo]

Jamila says a lot of words without really saying anything at all

[@passionflower1566]

I'm black and ex muslim, and I completly agree with Meghan

[@Sofian375]

In order to become an "ex muslim" you had to be a muslim.

[@DonnaBrooks]

@@Sofian375 Yes. That's what she's saying. She used to be Muslim, and now she's not. What about that do you not understand? What's your point?

[@cwhizz3106]

wow, I’m stunned..the “white feminist” here is a black woman and the radical is the white one.

[@JamesSmith-bf6ui]

What happened to the working towards equality for men and women, the lady made it quite clear that it was all about women. Is that not a form of sexism?

[@synonymrolls8531]

James Smith not every movement can be about men.

[@amorestierraamadahermoso5810]

Synonym Rolls, ok but don't call it equality, fuckface

[@synonymrolls8531]

simon a.v You don't NEED a movement, stop looking for attention.

[@amorestierraamadahermoso5810]

Synonym Rolls, neither you do fuckface, stop answering with BS

[@margaretrandy4698]

James Smith Only if Black Lives Matter is racist for not including white people and gay rights activists are heterophobic for not including straight people.

[@Αφροδιτη-ψ9ο]

I love how we 'need' feminism while feminists can't even agree with each other on what this is about.

[@sharifsalem]

Only one of these is a feminist.

[@daniiiakasha1436]

Feminism was never, and will never be about choice.

[@rikwithsilentp]

We should put our engery into everyone's right!!!

[@mirandac8712]

Meghan's taking a brave stand against abuse. And she'll bravely tell you if it's abuse. In fact, she'll bravely take care of the entire discourse for you, including your voice, your experience, and your thoughts.

[@krw72]

😂😂😂 I’m stealing that

[@blacalwkman534]

Go girls everyone deserve 2 have a VOICE!

[@sploosh6433]

Americanizing at its finest... try righteousness. Leave the word "feminism" if its too complicated

[@goforit7774]

What’s wrong in wearing stilettos?

[@radicleeze]

Ankle, leg and back damage, instability and weakening of leg muscles, and osteoarthritis.

[@TheVertueTribe]

2 time the word 'Choose' with the fingers ... Smart enough to be in a weak position

[@michalkowalik89]

"Repressive Tolerance" Herbert Marcuse. Al Jazeera - do we live 100 years before ?

[@alirizvi7]

9:15 when the conversation switches from feminism to racism. Convoluted illogical thought process expected from illogical movements.

[@solarwavesxfinity971]

Embryonic Transfer. Synthesized Ovums. Once these become a universal way of procreating, do the majority of parents demonstrate higher, lower, or equal standards of nurturing? In this scenario, does a newborn's life face more risk of being taken for granted since a parent can just special order a new baby?

[@corettaha7855]

That’s why I’m not a feminist...just an individualist.

[@cd7002]

You are a news agency from QATAR

[@markgreen4612]

Uh, I think they probably know where they work.

[@zawiszaczarny7876]

The answer will be : Illusions .

[@user-ue4fb3yj7w]

Not getting enough attention from their daddy as a child.

[@terranova3890]

More like no father and a poisonous mother.

[@internetmail3888]

You hit the nail on the head.

[@michalkowalik89]

no. I'ts is modern Marxism

[@terranova3890]

qwerty It appears that it is only flourishing in the Americas (North and Canada) as it has taken over the education system there, it does look like it is being slowly beaten with previously "banned" speakers and free speech haters loosing their forceful grip.

[@michalkowalik89]

no it is the basin of EU education system. EU is attempt to construct communist country

[@ProfLairAmaro]

Feminism is a gift. Feminism is salvation. Long live of feminism.

[@samuelsilver8077]

Even death is salvation according to some people. So why should I trust you?

[@liberalliberal2937]

ajay prasad so is the idea of men being dominant.

[@unknown_author]

@Zorba third wave is not Feminism at all.

[@frensiow]

I mean before saying that we nedd feminism, you guys you try to agree on what feminism is. Because right now you obviously can't.

[@stevebradbury1914]

I think the woman in the pink dress is a Trump voter🤔🤔🤔

[@SamyGech]

In Trump's world, women have uphill battle to fight.

[@terranova3890]

How so? Trump just makes the multi million $ hate machine churn its gears more.

[@terranova3890]

As long as there are Feminists to profit from that multi million $ man hating machine they are all good.

[@sc0tte1-416]

no.

[@amorestierraamadahermoso5810]

The Least Racist Most Intelligent and Sexy Philantropist by the Grace of God, BULLSHIT

[@frensiow]

Oh man oh man, this is name caling the video, It feels like they try to say "patriarchy" , "white supremacy" and "capitalism" as much as they can 😂😂

[@phatpat63]

Recursive incoherence.

[@vishmonster]

>Al Jazeera

[@peasant7214]

why does the white lady get gets to decide what is bad for women?

[@ShadowsMasquerade]

Well, she's not "deciding". It's by following a rational thought process and being critical of the context in which choices occur, that you can conclude something is bad. It is objective.

[@DonnaBrooks]

Why do YOU get to make decisions for women?

[@peasant7214]

@@DonnaBrooks have I?

[@peasant7214]

@@ShadowsMasquerade seems cultural to me much more than it is objective

[@hectorres286]

Megan Murphy is Donald Trump

[@stefanthorndahl1666]

why isn't Mehdi Hasan questioning them and their views more? Like at the end, the Canadian feminist says that men shouldn't play a key role. That's such an ostracizing comment... it's the same thing she accuses "patriarchy" of causing to women - exclusion from power and so on. He's usually very good at being agressive (sometimes too much so), but he could easily have questioned some of the extremely and seemingly bigoted things they were saying?

[@DonnaBrooks]

Are you a feminist? Do you really care about women? Or are you only concerned about men's feelings? Yeah, that's what I thought.

[@stefanthorndahl1666]

@@DonnaBrooks I would consider myself feminist, but probably not in the way you're thinking of it. I think Meghan Murphy is making some decent points throughout, and I also see where she comes from when she says that she thinks women should be central to the movement. But I also think it's a point of discussion and that's why it needs questioning. In addition, I think a lot of 'isms' get thrown about and it's a much too general way of discussing feminism in the context of. Mehdi usually questions or seeks elaboration on vagueness or ambiguity and I think he could here as well.

[@frecklefingers]

Hypersensitivity makes someone a feminist.

[@ShadowsMasquerade]

Looks like you're hypersensitive to the content of the video.

[@jformaldehydem]

Just focusing on their voices and mannerisms, Jamia sounds like a rather intelligent bright woman who is looking to make the world a better place, while the redhead sounds like a latte sipping arts major elitist pseudo intellectual. Her view completely lacks nuance.

[@MidnightIsolde]

weirdly, I had the exact opposite impression. Jamia does come across as intelligent, however many of her talking points are essentially pre-packaged content, with the typical buzzword terminology and reference points one expects - e.g. just because someone mentions how important nuance is, doesn't mean that they actually practicing nuanced analysis themselves. Saying it doesn't mean you are doing it. Or, put anther way, if you have to say that you practice nuance for people to know it, then maybe you are not really doing it in reality.

[@ShadowsMasquerade]

@@MidnightIsolde Agreed. Voice and mannerisms aren't as important as the content/what is being said. Murphy was more nuanced and made more objective sense.

[@MM-yd7rj]

YES! FEMINISM ALL THE WAY

[@zenzilekus4413]

Feminism destroy woman and men.. wake up

[@ppMicro4]

Feminism is useless in every way :D

[@hansmaulwurf9051]

Could you please refrain from inviting botox victims to the show?

[@Graghma]

Jamia was so on point and ran circles around everyone else. Well put

[@ShadowsMasquerade]

lol

[@sharifsalem]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂