What Monster Hunters Lance was 18 years ago...

[@LAKANMusic]

been a lance main since freedom unite, still don’t understand how people can think this weapon is boring, it’s very engaging to always be in front of the monster doing constant damage

[@lecommenter8528]

Sounds like db

[@florianp1283]

I mainly use lance and sns. I like to block when i am in a bad situation. If the monster is a heavy and tanky monster like the diablos, i use the lance. If it is a fast monster like the nargacuga, i use sns.

[@moderateexistence377]

I have always been offput by the evades, my brain just doesn't brain with them.

[@user-ck6qb1qz9g]

People dont understand that with lance, the complexity and fun comes from the monster and learning to play around its moves so you can go toe-to-toe with it. Most other weapons just try to avoid the monster and do their own, disconnected thing to make the damage numbers go big, while lance requires constant engagement with the monsters moveset.

[@GeneralIVAN894]

Poking gang rise up

[@thebuddah1253]

Aye aye

[@IHateAnime_]

Poke Poke Poke Poke Poke Poke Poke Poke

[@sniiiper3d645]

Yay, gunlance….. anybody…

[@GeneralIVAN894]

@@sniiiper3d645 I would If I could my dude, but unfortunately my brain don't connect, but you are always welcomed to join and whoever masters it deserves a medal

[@Chipmunk025]

@@thebuddah1253we up

[@spookytimescaryvideos4395]

It's literally the same gameplay in the beginning "how did we turn from this" blocking and poking "to this" blocking and poking but with spirit bug"

[@traviscooper8067]

As a Lance main since 3/Tri i can say that it looks boring on the surface but as you power through moves you normally have to evade and proceed to bully the monster with perfect counters and satisfying precision then you start to love it a bit more each time you use it 🙂

[@lecommenter8528]

As i do admit countering is the best feeling ever and never gets old, unfortunately since all weapons have a counter does take away the joy. But lance is probably the most satisfying outside of maybe gs and cb

[@Sentro1122]

If they let you ride a palamute while using lance, instant +40% player usage. Just sayin, lemme be a KNIGHT

[@Dagothur_88]

I discovered the Monster Hunter series with World. I looked the weapons and I saw this lance, I have always plays tank or character focused on absolute defense and survival in all my games because my shield is my religion... So i chose to play lance and since I never even felt like trying something else. i will play lance on everything monster hunter in future, present or pass because i'm a lance's guy in my soul!

[@riz3778]

*ace lancer crying in happiness*

[@EquesTofu]

Actually historically evade lance was even earlier in generation 2 and the narga evade plus set. Nargacuga gear would allow both LL and GL to backhop through literally anything, and was a strong moveset worth mastering. You'd see LL/GL mains not even sheathing their weapon and instead turning around to backhop INTO the monster.

[@Numokai]

How did we go from this: Guy using lance normally and accurately To this: swinging lance in the air

[@RuijsNL]

Lance mains in early generations deserve respect

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

Not necessarily. In FU it was known for its shieldpoke (it wasn't good even back then, but casual players used it because it was safe 99% of the time and would very slowly and reliably kill monsters if you weren't good at the game). Nowadays because comboing is always an option the shieldpoke is practically unused and most people seem to forget it exists. And in MH1 it was known as the easiest weapon to use to headlock the largest number of monsters (headlocking is where you stagger a monster by hitting its weakpoint, generally its head, and then as soon as it recovers you hit the damage threshold to stagger it again, effectively trapping it in place until your sharpness goes down or it does; notably in World this once again became extremely easy to do with Lance on Kushala).

[@Robert_Paprika]

What's boring about : poke -> poke -> poke -> dash -> poke -> poke -> poke -> dash?

[@jordonlegge448]

Besides everything?

[@user-ck6qb1qz9g]

Nothing. 10/10 peak gameplay. I use poke-poke-poke-counterpoke, as I prefer to be stationary.

[@-sem-3801]

The weapon that I Tried as a Joke one day with a friend. Now all my builds are Defense-offensive guard based with the lance.

[@psihypo]

I started maining Lance bc you basically just point at the monster and say "I wanna break that part now" and you just poke that part.

[@lokmzc10]

Real true

[@TaqSoto]

Lance looks boring on the outside but theres a lot going on when playing the weapon. It doesnt have a lot of pizazz but positioning and knowing what attacks are guardable is crucial. Once you get the rhythm down you can just power through most of whatever the monster throws at you.

[@darknarax]

Lance is always like going 1v1 on a close fist fight with a lizard, dam its good to poke and block between them legs.

[@thehollowlingwin]

I will say a fun/funny part about Lance is when trying to figure out what is guardable, like I did Narwa for the first time last night and with every attack it threw for the first time I'm just like "Maybe I'll survive this"...results varied 🤣

[@dealswithnormiesallday]

After being a longtime Charge Blade main, I have recently picked up the Lance in MHW. It's amazing and I'm absolutely falling in love with the weapon. I got inspired to use it after playing MHN, believe it or not. 😂 I don't know if I would call it my favorite yet, but I know that I can't stop using it. 😀

[@Gairith]

Same! Charge blade is my main go to weapon when I'm drunk or struggling in a fight. I avoided lance at first because it was "unpopular and easy," but I feel the people saying that haven't really given the time to figure it out. It's so fast and fun, and as simple as the shield advance is, is the coolest looking move in the game for me

[@Arieline_D_fur]

Lance players are really reliable

[@alvincamacho995]

All three of us that is 😂

[@williamhenry2290]

In MH1 and 2 the lance was king. Its hard to use but if you got one that did enough damage you could indefinitely head lock "filcch " till they were dead. Long as they could be flinched. All you have to do was upward thrust 3 times back step wait like 1/2 sec and repeat and mob couldn't even do anything. You just have the other players focus on cutting off parts and if tail was cut off it would break the chain but you just put them back into it.

[@espada7997]

I started playing lance at the end of base rise and it's actually really fun. I wont main it but it'll stay in my top 5 weapons

[@cfehunter]

In Gen 1 on PS2 the lance was wildly popular, *mostly* because of plate farming and the fact that if you timed it just right you could stunlock Rathalos with it while playing online.

[@evilone9670]

Yeah, I like Lance Weapon, but please make a video about Gunlance too...🙂😏

[@russpc9739]

I cannot put down lance after Rise's instablock skill, that shit is too good and amazing, you dont have to feel like a guard 5 punching bag for lategame monsters

[@wits_end.]

Well, that's why the rampage skill gaurdbash exists. You can just hold shield and profit😎 especially risen shagaru.

[@eddyram4932]

Lance was always my main weapon, and I only switched from it when the gunlance came out in the second game. Besides those two, my other go to is the heavy bowgun👍

[@sugoha_2548]

It's refreashing to see someone who doesn't use the same 3 weapons as everyone else

[@fromhl7619]

I started 3U with LS, because was the only weapon I gave the choice (noob mentality I guess), and I was terrible, I couldn't clear a quest without help. I didn't understand many of the game mechanics. I got better thanks to my friend, but it took me a lot of concentration to kill my first barroth alone. As soon as I got to high rank I learned hammer, and every game after that I've always learned and used other weapons, but many people stick to the same ones everytime. For rise my main was gunlance, and for sun break the lance. I have never fallen in love with a weapon until I played the lance.

[@kotzer71]

If i remember lance meta in icebourne lance wanted both elemental and raw so high raw weapons with at least a lil element would beat out pure raw weapons

[@invincaspartan]

Iceborne Meta for Lance was raw

[@kotzer71]

@invincaspartan pretty sure it was match up based but this could of changed around the brachy fatalis era i was burnt out around that time So idk what those monsters changed for lance

[@TornaitSuperBird]

People don't use Lance because they also think it's a low dps weapon. Lance can have the highest dps of any weapon because the shield can give you virtually no downtime.

[@user-ck6qb1qz9g]

realistically, unless you are what they call a 'gamer', there will be downtime and you will have less damage with lance. I dont think this is a problem, tho. More damage only ends the hunt faster, and why would you want to do that? I want to spend time hunting monsters in my monster hunter game, dammit.

[@user-ck6qb1qz9g]

As a lance main, I only really use six moves, and that is still more fun than all the other weapons combined.

[@NibbleSnarph]

I just wish that Capcom had made the perfect counter in Rise be able to animation cancel like evading does, and the weapon would have been perfect. Being able to triple poke into perfect counter would have been chefs kiss

[@kato2395]

I skipped generations and I never used lance until rise, oh boi I didn't know they take so many moves from GU. That was pretty cool!

[@Apoteuxia]

With world, i've discovered a new universe by using lance. It is now my fav weapon to play, and everytime i met a monster that is stronger than me, i just have to pick my lance to simply win the quest

[@hcrdfju4954]

11:17 Alchemy Lance has omni dirrectional guard dash.

[@dhshhdhdhdhshsje]

in double cross?

[@hcrdfju4954]

@@dhshhdhdhdhshsje yea

[@dhshhdhdhdhshsje]

@@hcrdfju4954 cool I will try it out

[@schwartzprime3045]

i mean, you still block and stab, just with style. look at the transformation SnS, LS, and GS went through.

[@Der_wahre_C17]

I played Lance after DB and i loved them. What i most like is the easy handling. No complicated Combos and I will main it in Wilds again. i just jope not to many moves comes with the new lance and no wirebug or clutch claw.

[@andylastname566]

i miss the old metal lance designs

[@daethmer7834]

I mean you can litteraly still play it, just spam the poke button, that's it

[@andylastname566]

@@daethmer7834 visual designs and game play mechanics are two different things my guy.

[@nekomancer4641]

you mean the starter metal lance?

[@andylastname566]

@@nekomancer4641 of the older games before World, the knightly looking ones instead of the generic modern style World has.

[@nekomancer4641]

@@andylastname566he shown the old style metal lance in the video. That's rly the only one of pure metal construction that's missing in World iirc.

[@falguard]

Given even the lowest total number of players from Rise/Sunbreak, (from which the current popularity statistics are derived) 3% is still approximately 675,000 Lance users. It's definitely not a "few" in a general sense. It's only "few" in a statistical sense compared to, say, Long Sword. There were approximately 4.9 MILLION Long Sword users. Also obligatory ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH

[@pangalacticgargleblaster2610]

og lance is best lance, whats not to like about poke, poke, poke, backstep, repeat?!

[@ridleyroid9060]

I still play it like that even in Rise and I honestly cba to do anything but poke poke poke.

[@fromhl7619]

You can do that still in the newer games. But very bold of the developers to make it much less damaging, compared to sweeping thrust play style.

[@yourdad5799]

I like to not fall asleep

[@vsksan7485]

other weapon: we are evolving! lance: i am old but still can kick a bucket!

[@ENZEED]

I think its the player base's fault too. A lot of them called it the most boring weapon of all and somehow the devs caught wind of it. Im happy that its kinda mainstream now tho, because theres always knights with lances that goes around fighting dragons in most fairy tales of old

[@otkare]

it's the least played weapon in rise :V

[@MA-go7ee]

Ill tell you how - every action series is slowly turning into Devil May Cry, lol. Look at the new FF. By 2030 every action game will converge into the same hack and slash, quick combat formula. This video reminds me of when i first started using the Gunlance in MH4U. Hard to adjust to but when you do, it is SO overpowered it's sort of hilarious. Only the explodey boy, what's its name again...? Gave me any trouble.

[@wyvern4467]

I've noticed that too, they're probably trying to get rid of down times in combat. I believe they managed to do a pretty good job with taking off down times in Frontier Z. And they tried to do that with sunbreak when they added counters, but it didn't get the same results.

[@Pk-yi3wx]

tbf FF16's combat director is the same director for DMC5 lmao

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

Well dmc is peak.

[@cernos7230]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 but the problem is not everything is DMC, If I want to play DMC combat just play DMC, every other copy cat is subtier

[@JoelHernandez-tz3vk]

But Frontier is the most DMC of them all. Isn't it?

[@pidgy8927]

fundamentally, we still just poke

[@TurningKhan]

Stab, Stab, Stab, Parry, Stab, Stab, Charged Stab, side doge, Stab, Charged Stab, Parry, Fail, Block, Sheath, Run, Heal, Flex, Repeat.

[@user-ck6qb1qz9g]

tis the holy way

[@OrgBrent]

its because of frontier. there's your answer. have fun.

[@justthere845]

Lol

[@procow2274]

A few notes: In mh1 specific more than rest old gen lance was really strong because of a bug calculating the formula wrong similar to sns in freedom 1 Lance in tri was very good. Too tier in fact. So good they felt the need to nerf it immediately afterwards In mhw iceborn despite the stronger emphasis on element they tried to go with in the expansion for whatever bizarre reason they nerfed the element% of damage lance did per hit from base world. No idea why it seemed as random and arbitrary as nerfing dragon piercer which was already niche at that point compared to element bow.

[@buttersidedown5905]

Moral of the story-if you haven’t tried lance because it looks boring then give it a shot in sunbreak or even GU and experiment with the various switch skills and silkbinds or styles and hunter arts. Then once you have an appreciation for the weapon it’ll be more enjoyable in other games like world or 4

[@Ruuod]

Evasion+7 00 👀👀? Anyone?

[@herochrisx]

YESSSSSSSS

[@theLanceInPants]

The fact you didn't show the black dragon Lance headlocking and going toe to toe with Fatalis, a monster no one online at the time could even fight without being 1 shot with melee weapons in the first game is a massive disservice. The weapon was so busted that they needed all the other game iterations to smear its name! On a more serious note, its just a precise, defensive weapon in a game people already devised ways of being one or both of those but better. HBG shield just a walking, comfy tank that can freely aim and do BIG dmg. Sticky is an opening machine and satisfying just popping things in the face. Gunlance having the meaty shield with all the complexities of shelling, the comfort of not having to bring traditional blademaster skills and the flashiness lacking in Lance. Lance is prob like middle of the pack for me. Bottom is prob hammer for similar main reasons I mentioned. SNS just because FC can be annoying to fight certain monsters at times where you need a really sweaty weapon to get the job done (dual blades vs alatreon comes to mind. Thats in the context of multiplayer with new people that brought like a safi shatter weapon and can't even be helped to just live long enough for the explosion in the first place)

[@HerEvilTwin]

Lance was the last weapon I learned out of all the weapons and it pretty much instantly became one of my top 3 favorite weapons. I understand people sleep on it just like I did but man, y’all are missing out

[@Aescavalis]

Lance was fun too in frontier, we got 4x poke, 4x back hop, higher upper trust, stamina, attack & heal buff, guard backhop, instaguard, running with unsheated lance, and absolute fortress guard with ammo

[@nathanblackburn1193]

Y'know with a game as insane as Frontier (particularly during the Z period) I'm curious how a weapon like lance was adapted to be more flashy and extreme

[@chaosempress]

@@nathanblackburn1193 Extreme gave it; an area wide guard with a cooldown, a 360 degree (with Guard/fortification +2 and the Guard up Zenith skill) strong/power guard, “stocks” gained by blocking that could be consumed to heal, grant mega juice effect, and give an attack buff. There are also the almighty reflect and obscurity skills: reflect would damage a monster when you blocked an attack (the 3rd level with the Zenith boost has a motion value of 68 iirc) while obscurity increases attack and affinity on successful guards (being knocked down takes the buff away) Extreme lance is pretty neat in frontier, I use it alongside Swaxe F for grinding out lower tier Zenith Monsters.

[@vivid8979]

Him calling Lance as the "Lance Weapon" for some reason feels heavier than lifting the weapon itself in the game...

[@Pine2142]

Massive props for using Kiseki music in the intro

[@BlueVoltageBlader]

as a main lance user on Sunbreak i got teary after watched this video :')

[@littletrucker2551]

I loved adept style in GU, so when i seen they were bringing it back in rise as insta block I was so on board, to me perfect parrying is the most satisfying way to play and its hard for me to go back to games prior to GU and still want to play lance over other weapons

[@TriiipleTake]

Adept greatsword is like a high you can never come down from

[@Ptollemios]

Proud lancer since the very first game. Sometimes I cheat on it with its sister the gunlance but don't tell it.

[@kasmalmal6752]

thanks to rise make lance more fun to use

[@PassionFlame64]

Having started with the Lance back on 3U and changing it to the HH, I find myself enjoying the Lance a lot overall.

[@Mr.PocketsBLUE]

Maki I don’t even realize this was you.! The new pic Threw me off.! Nice new Profile pic.! Also lance in try is freaking amazing.! Got to love the hop back 3 poke repeat.!!

[@Stroggoii]

Lance has been one of, if not the most OP blademaster weapon at least once every gen. G1: MH Lance was THE weapon. G2: FU Para Lance + Flashbomb spam kept most monsters locked. G3: Tri Hoppy Lance could evade through anything mindlessly and still maintain high dps. G4: GU Striker is OP and Adept is not close behind. G5: SB Embolden+Heaven Sent makes you unkillable and gives you top 5 blademaster dps.

[@karasutsuki1733]

I fkin miss the old days when the hunter didnt zip around the air more than the monster did, big reason I didnt get along with Rise well either thanks to the Wirebugs in combat

[@phoenixero8161]

how did you feel about World?

[@fromhl7619]

​@@phoenixero8161he is just irrational, these kind of comments really are undercover hate, and fanboyism. Many weapons don't even have new aerial moves, and world was precisely the game that incorporated the most amount of aerial moves...

[@Zephyr1202]

@@fromhl7619 And all these people think that the wirebugs are a mandatory thing 😂You aren't forced into using them in combat. Just try using some self control and stop hating so much. It is not mandatory to use the wirebugs, unlike feeling forced to use the clutch claw in Iceborne 🙃

[@soulezwan266]

Aaaaa the lance... Poking your enemy to death... Wonder what the new monster hunter will feel like... For all the weapon... Really wish capcom take what best for all generations and put it in one. It actually sad how some will not play generation ult or rise/sunbreak because its different...😅

[@lux_less]

But then we have people that will only play Gen Ult or Sunbreak... because they're different. It's the beauty of having so many different games. I rarely touch World (relative to my time on 3u, Gu, and Sunbreak) because Capcom has been kind enough to bless us with different games, all of great quality, with different mechanics. Although I've at least given every game enough time to beat low rank village (and I don't dislike any MH game, aside from 1st gen lol)

[@soulezwan266]

@@lux_less true that, gen 1 is clunky but i still poured 1500+ hour into it when it came out 😆. it just weird to me when people wish the game to stay the same without evolving in some way, what kind of madness is that 😅

[@lux_less]

Yeah. I love all the evolving, for sure! I personally don't understand people wanting the same basic thing, but I do understand having preferences. Hopefully we keep getting the current archetype of "grounded" game followed by an experimental one (4u then gu... world then rise) so that everyone is happy. There was this great video on MH Dos (and the franchise as a whole) that used this icecream analogy that, while mint is what the franchise is true to, the more chocolate that's added the better it sells.@@soulezwan266

[@fromhl7619]

​@@lux_less yeah I also think evolution makes better the franchise, thanks to that, we can enjoy the lance more than ever. World is extremely boring to me, so even though I tried, I couldn't come back to it after having played rise, even though I can with any other mh game I have. I don't want the next monster hunter to be like a world 2.0, which I have the opinion that it won't, there are just so many people that are very toxically fanatic about that game while at the same time grounding rise.

[@SchwarzeRitter]

Played a bit Lance on Gen1 (PS2), found it hard. Played it again in World, fell in love.

[@magnabueno5360]

Me playing Lance in FU cuz I heard it was op back then. Now I'm full Lance main.

[@ilmistico90]

Great video. Sadly, I too found lance weapons boring in the early generations. Now it's my weapon of choice. Like you in the first generations I used Great Sword and Long Sword, the most used weapons, because they gave the feeling of high damage. Well they do high damage. If I could go back I would play lance, i just didn't understand how lance weapon worked. I considered the poke attack really weak but now seeing the damage numbers displayed in MH: World I understand that it was actually really good. Also now i like the counter attack and the ability to jump while front charging to do jump damage really make it more accessible.

[@Vilithos]

I'm glad they learned through GU that some flash and coolness is important for the lance. Sunbreak Lance is far from incredible, but it is so much more well thought through than ever before. *Rubs my core drill*

[@friskycalibri2293]

funnily enough, i felt it didn't need flashiness. It was just a simple weapon, simple attacks worked fine.

[@thesteve1388]

I've only ever used heavy bowgun after watching this video im gonna give lance a try

[@Oniontrololol]

I used to main lance in MH tri… good old times

[@Rytom]

GU and Sunbreak are the best versions of Lance imo, the perfect guard is simply too satisfying. Also, elemental weapons finally being stronger really adds to the fun.

[@8read8oy]

If you showed me current Lance gameplay back when I was playing 4u, I would've assumed that was God Eater; holy cow.

[@Steezyjo510]

Honestly the only people I see mad about the over the top movesets is old vets, but what did you expect from the team that made GU. If it irks you that bad you'll be back to poke poke poke backstep in MH6

[@Mr.Hellboi]

how do we go from, fighting on the ground, to fighting in the? air?!?! 😱

[@procow2274]

Well we fought in the water to

[@SpacedogD]

Lance gang rise up

[@deioped]

Have you seen how japanese players used lance? They could take down any G rank with barely any guarding, just backhops and poking. I myself have poked around with that playstyle in MHP2G as well.

[@CTomCooper]

Poke around and found out.

[@FarradMuseumofTruth]

haha classic . Memories. Thank you for this. lance was always my favourite

[@gabrielturcato1235]

MH Rise combat is just so good, every weapon feels so batter, and you can change every attack and make your on move style, hope they keep that forever

[@user-Xx0xxxxx]

MHrise combat is literally one of it's biggest flaws, it lacks the weight that makes MH MH.

[@shiryu105]

​@@user-Xx0xxxxx agreed, everything feels too overpowered.

[@azkaghafara5712]

@@user-Xx0xxxxx exactly what i was gonna say, the hunter just feels like a feathers most of the time

[@ken2guy]

it is good but underwatr battle is where its at in tri and 3 ultimate! >:D

[@therighttrousers343]

I agree with you. I hope they continue with action combat for the next portable game. Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak is the best action game currently created.

[@kouhaiforhire]

Honestly I REALLY REALLY disliked lance in every game just cus of the poke poke poke being the most optimal damage route and the charge move feeling weird But in sunbreak with guard dash and the fact that optimal dps now comes from using the smooth-ass advancing guard into leap > sweeping thrust, just made me absolutely love this weapon. Not to mention how satisfying adept guard is and the guard buff switch skill. It went from being a slow tank just poking to feeling like an unstoppable brawler that's gonna fuck you the hell up and you can't do shit about it. Literally went from being at the bottom of my tier list to my main weapon by a long shot in sunbreak.

[@TheTimestopper]

This sm. I love parrying and countering nearly everything and then going on the offensive. Something lance needed beyond just....Poke poke poke.

[@user-ck6qb1qz9g]

I love poke-poke-poke, but damn did that advancing guard feel nice to reposition with.

[@lonewander6772]

I mained lance in MH3, now a IG main since MH4, but I always have a pocket lance for aggressive monsters with huge aoe attacks.

[@ridleyroid9060]

I'm gonna be honest, the day I tried out the lance was the day my monster hunter brain broke. Wait, what do you mean I can not only just tell the big monster "no u" with the shield that is bigger than my body, and not have to bother actually dealing with MonHuns wonky dodge (don't even @ me monhun vets, you know how silly billy that dodge is without evade window, and even with sometimes) and can just...block the damage? Wait, you mean I can just sit there and...poke, poke, poke? Since then I rarely take any other weapons to task. It's literally THE perfect weapon for me.

[@flaggy185]

Ah yes the weapon with the most combos "Poke poke poke" "Poke poke poke" And "runrunrunrunrunrun... Poke"

[@DeviHyuga]

I miss how op evade lancing felt in gen 4. Give me back my 3 backhops capcom! 😢

[@itsyaboiguzma]

As much as I love lance Gunlance exists so I cant go back. Boom stick too fun

[@fromhl7619]

I play both, even though I'm in love with lance

[@user-jn1qw5xp7v]

You gotta make more lore videos like the Scarlett mystery man

[@DKMaester]

Watched the whole thing and I don't dven care about lance.

[@CherryPoppy]

Insta-block is OP!!

[@masterwu8314]

it looks the same but science fiction

[@HitsuruKun]

The lance was my last used weapon in MHW (my first game), nos it's my most confort and reliable weapon of the blademaster. In rise the weapon spot on the top 3 ones, aside Charge Blade and Hunting Horn. Great vídeo dood, there's q lot lot of heart into it!!

[@Eldergloom]

I mained lance in the original MH game because I was the only one of my friends who could headlock rathalos and rathian consistently enough for plate farming xD

[@Elehk99]

I’ve only played monhun for a couple years now, but throughout that time I’ve been a diehard lancer. Yes it’s unpopular and yes it isn’t amazing, it’s still my weapon. I hate that it’s become a parry machine instead of a tank. I miss standing tall against valstrax nukes in gu, why oh why did rise make us play sekiro

[@Gairith]

Lance is my second favorite weapon next to charge blade. I think it's unpopular because it's very misunderstood due to the initial clunkiness the lances feel at first compared to other weapons that feel faster. Then it's dropped immediately and called easy under the assumption that you hold block and slowly walk around the whole fight. But man, sticking to a monster and constantly advancing through attacks, throwing a counter in the middle of your pokes to keep the combo going, and in GU, that shield charge? Mua. And yeah, Rise I think kinda took away most weapon's signature play style by giving everything a one button wirebug instant counter

[@yesimchar]

i personally love the parry play style

[@Elehk99]

@@yesimchar I see why people like it, but it’s just not lance to me. Lance has remained largely unchanged for 4.5 generations, then receives a parry at the tail end of 5th? It just feels very unlancelike to me

[@Elehk99]

@@zrevi5918 but what are you gonna do when Wilds probably removes the parry? Stop playing the weapon? That’s why I hate it, people fell in love with Rise’s hyper aggressive lance, not the actual weapon

[@zrevi5918]

@@Elehk99 sorry about this, I think I just misunderstood that parry=counter. Parry would be the insta-block right? Yes I do like it but what made me love lance would be the aggressiveness. If it follows from world lance then my answer to your question would be yes. World lance for me is also a hyper aggressive weapon. And you need to be aggressive to be able to go toe to toe with other weapons. I went from psp MH games straight to rise then to world so I dont have that much experience on other lances but I think if someone really likes lance, if there is parry or not they would still play it. Parry for me is quite good but definitely not a reason for someone to use/main lance. Its about being aggressive (for me). Fun fact: I finished world just a few weeks ago with lance. Fugging struggled on fatalis for more than 8hrs but a win is still a win even if I only got a minute before the timer.

[@leandroTRA]

All great but the major problem with lance right now is that capcom took lance identity of ''defend&retaliate'' and gave it to every single weapon in the form of counters. Even giving other weapons counters that safeguard against moves that even the lance cannot block. so you keep asking yourself this question.. why am I playing this slow moveset, low damage, to block and counter when dps weapons can do the same? greatest offender of course is the favorite child of Capcom, the long-sword. I understand that a Japanese game would favor katanas but not being able to block or counter a death energy beam with lance MASSIVE shield, but being able to emerge unscathed with a counter from long-sword feels disrespectful and a insult. giving safe options and counters to every weapon is what killed the lance reason to exist, we only play it out of love now, its not the best at something (defense) anymore

[@andreacalcagno1991]

I mean, and don't wanna be rude, while your argument is correct in theory, in practice lance is the 4th highest dps in the melee category, and long sword in particular is below pretty much anything else in the game atm, also lance doesn't need to invest in a lot of skills to become incredibly defensively proficient, and while the other weapons have some sort of counter mechanic available to them to be able to defend against the huge aoes, lance is the only one able to make use of their defensive tools offensively at the same time, I feel like you are not considering how wirebug dependant the other defensive options in the game are. A better form of criticism would be that the weakest shield in the game is now the strongest in the form of guard embolden SnS, which is frankly ridiculous considering that it is also the third highest melee dps, but imho SnS deserves some love, and after TU6 lance, Gl and SnS became significantly better than anything else bar strong stance GS and DB.

[@xenio8736]

@@andreacalcagno1991 Maybe he is talking about iceborne where it's really skill hungry AND bad dps, huge knockbacks and chip damage when guarding, can't guard things even with guard up etc...

[@thechugg4372]

This comment seems to come from release Rise? You should play Sunbreak, the lance is one of the highest dps, higher than Longsword now ;)

[@Stroggoii]

@@xenio8736 Maybe they should talk about a good game then? GU and Sunbreak Lance is OP. Third gen Lance is OP. First gen Lance is OP. FU it's ok to weak on it's own but becomes OP if you bring a 4x Darkness Lance Status Up party and keep the monster permanently locked in paralysis.

[@wolfmpeg]

Started using lance in dos and never looked back, just a safe and always solid weapon.

[@Der_wahre_C17]

Same for me.

[@psychogore]

In generation i like to use guild style lance with status effect lances, since the 3 hit finisher will rapidly build up status effect.

[@NovaBushido]

GU was the best version of Lance, was so much fun

[@aiexmonsterhunter]

Lance was one of my main weapons back in Tri and it carried me through most of the game. I barely touched it during Gen 4, but now in Sunbreak I've picked it up again. Is actually very fun, even if it's damage is not as crazy as other weapons.

[@procow2274]

Tri lance is very good

[@IHateAnime_]

As a half Lance Main(I use GS too a lot), I wonder what they'll do with Lance's moveset in MH6. MHW and Rise's iterations of Lance feel so refined but imo they haven't felt as flashy as it did in Generations, I wondering if it'll change much in the next game(prolly not)

[@Bytesthedust]

We back…. AGAIN

[@yotamata8727]

I was thinking about changing my weapon a few months cause I always play with longsword and I wanted to know what it feels like, and one weapon that come into my mind was the Lance, and definitely after seeing this video I will give it a try

[@hadgeron9556]

Clutch claw counter is single handedly the best move for lance in ib it feels so satisfying to use and makes every other weapon feel so much worse on top of not having a shield that you can deny any monster attack with. Lance is and will always be our main weapon, I just hate that it took me 600 hours to find it!

[@Val-sp2sz]

I'm a lance main and consequentially sort of love the clutch claw even though it was super hated. Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing claw as a lance exclusive in MH Wilds (maybe with select wire bug abilities like closed jump).

[@Ruuod]

MHTri lance felt so good against Jho. Up until today my most comfortable fight in the series. EDIT: Close to Hammer vs Rathalos/Rathian

[@procow2274]

Tri lance is really good

[@powaii5177]

I speedrun Fatalis with lance it's one of favorite weapons and after seeing this I definitely playing on rise.

[@Aegisdex]

Yeah lance has fallen off a little bit in the later titles, i think the best iterations are 3u and gu. Striker in gu was my personal favorite cause I like dashing cause the finisher go brr. Yes people online hate me but in solo runs i get so much use out of running straight through everything. I can even use elderfrost lance which is one of my favorite designs

[@cernos7230]

naaah feels the same older lance is almost equivalent to Iceborne lance without the cluth claw thing

[@Aegisdex]

If you seen the damage of old lance than youll see a massive difference

[@cernos7230]

@@Aegisdex it's just the numbers

[@grubbyarmadillo9863]

I used to think it was boring too, until tried it in Iceborne. Rise's iteration wasn't my liking, but i'll give it another chance.

[@xxnatendiusxx2959]

really good video, for the next one like that could you do it on the SnS ?

[@bilgtex]

Gen 4 definitely has my favorite lance, as a lifelong lance main. Like doing evade lance was stupid good (evade 3 kinda broken fr) and striker lance could just constantly lay dps down.

[@angelaguerrero3808]

I was a main bow/Ls since 3rd gen and usually dipping on other weapons like gs duals swaxe hammer and finally lance. This one has mever been close to be my main sincer tri/gu for the womderful combat underwater, but in rise is my comfy place, no other weapon gives me this security when i face a challenge, and its fun like most of the other weapons

[@XxREEBOWxX]

Anyone know the song that plays at the end during the rise section right after he mentions making elemental lances

[@sumbodee1616]

Soaratorium Theme sad version, or alt version