What No One Is Talking About in Photoshop 2025

[@waynelytton7517]

I have attended many of your courses when there were Photoshop World conventions. You were my favorite instructor there.

[@dekeNow]

That’s awesome news. Thx!

[@yufers]

1:19 If you zoom in you'll probably find the grain doesn't match. You can blur it and add an artificial grain but I find the old manual way of doing this is still the best.

[@KingZero69]

always exciting when we get a new photoshop deke 💪

[@dekeNow]

Yes it is!

[@sruhaidiad4911]

I’m interested in the resolution flexible workspace. Please review and explain how that works and your thoughts on whether it’s ready for prime time

[@dekeNow]

Will do!

[@chasebros4948]

It’s interesting that the generative AI used by the remove tool is different than the generative AI used by generative fill. I didn’t know there was no resolution constraint on the generative AI used by the remove like there is with generative fill.

[@dekeNow]

I know, right? My guess is that the Remove tool is generally relegated to small edits, and so it’s allowed more freedom. We’ll see.

[@lovesmyway]

Love your training videos. FYI - I use the latest version of Beta Photoshop - AI Gen sucks more than it did last year. It's highly prudish - I can't make it finish the side of an arm, as an example.

[@dekeNow]

First, thx! Second, it’s interesting: There’s a very active rumor that the quality of Adobe's Gen AI is on the decline as a result of either bad data (not likely) and/or an increasing prude factor (most definitely). OpenAI and the others seem to be following suit, especially on matters of flesh and violence. Such a pain in the, dare I say it, ass!

[@franciskwok3515]

Yes, Deke, please cover the Generative Workspace, currently in beta. Thanks.

[@dekeNow]

I will, thx!

[@johnsmith1474]

I have read that to generate one AI image (not sure what size) takes the electricity equivalent of charging a phone (not sure what size). Question: can users give unused credits to other users?

[@dekeNow]

Geeze, that's a question. The moral ambiguity associated with this whole experiment-including neighborhoods potentially compromised or outright ruined by these clandestine processing farms moving in-is staggering. Idk about the phone analogy, but the GPU energy, AC, razor wire, security, the list goes on and on. Adobe doesn’t expect you to use all your credits, so modest use is a virtue in and of itself. Pat yourself on the back and feel good that you even asked.

[@BenSussmanpro]

Thanks, I enjoy your presentation. I wonder if the AI denoise feature in the Details panel of LR , requires credits?

[@dekeNow]

Good question. My testing suggests that it does not, possibly b/c it’s still in beta. But that could change any moment!

[@alanm.6096]

Hmm. It seems companies like Adobe and Topaz are working to get people comfortable with credit consumption, while not really tracking just how many credits they are actually consuming. There may be some surprises on the credit card at some point.

[@dekeNow]

It’s true. Adobe in particular is not advertising AI credit usage, nor is it offering any real guidelines. Which is a shame b/c my testing suggests that the credits hold up reasonably well. I use AI like a modest madman, I check their status nearly religiously, I haven’t come anywhere near running out, and they update like clockwork. I really think it’s a messaging flaw that the company needs to overcome.

[@naterosser5760]

Did Adobe stop updating photoshop on the iPad?

[@dekeNow]

Did they? Illustrator is humming along, but Photoshop, crickets.

[@joemiglionico6527]

I found both generative fill and the remove tool to be unusable in this new version and had to go back to PS 2024. The difference in output from each version was staggering, it's like they just went backwards to an earlier, more primitive version

[@keithspurlock4732]

I agree!! Can you really roll back?

[@dekeNow]

I have heard this from a few of my colleagues, but I have not experienced it myself. You have been trying Enhance Detail, yes? B/c without that, Gen Fill *does* deliver worse results in return for higher speeds. (In contrast, the Remove tool does whatever it does on-the-fly based on the options bar settings.)

[@joemiglionico6527]

@@dekeNow No, this is beyond "enhance detail". The last time I tried to just use the remove tool, it turned the entire image white except for the masked part. If you try to generate something like "Hair" for example, what you get are solid blocks of color. it's also incredibly slow in generating anything. On the other hand, I still have version 25 installed (the only reason I ever use 26 now is when it opens automatically and I forget to change it to 25) it gives me perfect results in 1/4 of the time or less. It's amazing to me if you've gotten ver 26 to work right at all, all the AI stuff is totally screwed up on my end. I'll keep using 25 until I hear positively that 26 is fixed, but it has not happened yet.

[@lukakoprivica]

8:45 what about needles?

[@dekeNow]

My biggest frustration in reviewing that video is that I didn't zoom down-right on the needles. They’re a decent detail match, but quality-wise, they frankly suffer. They don’t quite look like needles to me. Good catch!

[@photoray002]

Nice info, but I am now completely confused. AI costs to use? Its there in my subscription of PS that I've had for over a year now, and I've used a bit here and there, but nothing has prompted me to pay extra for it, so I don't understand. Sry

[@dekeNow]

Depending on your subscription, you get a specified number of AI credits. (You can look up your plan, btw.) Credits don’t cost extra $$. Even if you run out (I never have), Adobe claims that it will continue to permit you to use Gen AI features, but at a lower speed and priority.

[@photoray002]

​@@dekeNow Thank you! That makes more sense.

[@JoseMendoza-ug4xj]

Amazing. 🤩

[@dekeNow]

Awesome!

[@doug.s6289]

How do we check how many credits we have, or used when AI is run?

[@johnsmith1474]

Surprise! If you open Creative Cloud, search for ... "credits" ... you will, of course, see the info you seek. It's in typical Adobespeak, tons of claims and distraction but it does eventually get to the point. Looks like 500 a month for my Photographer Plan.

[@terrymcgovern6846]

Open up the Creative Cloud App to the Home page, and in the upper right corner there is a little blue pie-chart sort of symbol. That's your Account button. Click that and a box should pop up showing your monthly credits and what you've used so far. Note that at this time, there is no charge for going over your limit, and you can keep generating after they're all gone. That is sure to change, so be sure and keep up to date...

[@dekeNow]

My preferred way is to open Adobe Firefly in a browser, and then check my credits before using a feature as well as after. When things are working (they aren’t always), the results are near instantaneous.

[@morisless3532]

Thank goodness Adobe has come out with Content Credentials - they are ramping up the ability for the viewer to discern AI generated or assisted imagery - as much of the public wants more and more real stuff to see.

[@dekeNow]

I agree. I plan to visit Content Credentials in a future video, but I’m waiting for it to settle down and gain wider acceptance. For the present, it’s a nice idea.

[@toddlawrimore3577]

Thanks Deke

[@dekeNow]

My pleasure!

[@murugan1960]

outstand sir👌

[@dekeNow]

Thank you!

[@dennisgeng5446]

I really enjoy the new distractions removal tool for wires and cables. But I was disappointed because I thought it would remove fence wire automatically and easily. It does not do it. Nothing happens even after using all of the options available

[@dekeNow]

No, it’s uncanny the degree to which that features sees *only* power lines. I think it’s sensitive to mostly horizontal patterns, as opposed to complex latticework.

[@keithspurlock4732]

I was editing some photos with military officers, and I used the AI Generation to replace a plain white wall background with a USA flag behind them. Got some great results with Photoshop 2024, but in the middle of editing the job, Photoshop upgraded to 2025 and WOW, it's like Adobe has no idea what an American flag looks like!! They were absolutely horrid!! After re-trying many different descriptions with the retry button, I finally gave up and had to resort to finding a good flag photo and just used the, "Replace background" option and chose that file. The new 2025 Ai version is in my opinion, a major step backwards! It rarely gives good results. Very disappointing. Sometimes the results are truly awful, and I've wasted much time getting no usable results, but I bet Adobe still counts them against me. IMO I have rejected more than I have had usable results, especially in the 2025 version! Might be time to really see what Affinity can do for me. So tired of the subscription rip-offs and now they want to bill me for Ai generations that re unusable!!

[@dekeNow]

Well, haven’t run that particular test, but two thoughts: First, Adobe is forever expanding its learning base, at it’s very possible that some of the medical and other specialized imaging has been diluting some of the more common and earlier relatively plentiful stock-image expectations. (The hows and whys we get the results we do verges on unknowable.) Second, YES, if you try out a prompt 12 times and keep getting awful results, even if you delete them, your credits are charged (4 in the case of this example, 1 for each group of 3 variations). Not apologizing, just passing along what I know.

[@zvit]

Isn't Photoshop Beta excluded? They say, "Features that do not deduct any credits for generations - for a limited time and may change: Adobe Photoshop - Generative Workspace (beta)"

[@dekeNow]

That is the reasoning. Anything that’s technically beta, which includes much of the new stuff in Camera Raw/Lightroom, works credit-free. For now, of course.

[@thewebstylist]

Wait Bro Say Whaaaaa is this credit system pulling off those of us that have paid for full Adobe monthly membership$?!?

[@dekeNow]

Credits are included as part of your Creative Cloud subscription. Look up your plan to find out how many you have. They renew every month.

[@FrostyTheBeerMan]

🚨 ⚠ The MOST used word in this video "credit / credits" ... this here tells you where Adobe's focus is these days. Adobe should be ashamed of themselves, we are already paying big $ for our subscription.

[@johnsmith1474]

Who's going to pay for the electricity??

[@NickelMoon67]

Is Midjourney free nowadays?

[@jessemkahn]

what a terrible path to go down

[@advisevo2153]

@@johnsmith1474: who is going to pay electricity ! The the f. story. Credit -subscription mode it’s going to backfire them and the industry soon.

[@dekeNow]

For the record, I hope you know I chose to mention “credits” b/c no one else is talking about them and it’s a real fact of using the software. But you’re aware, anywhere from 200+ to 1000 credits are included with your subscription, yes?

[@johnwesner]

Whats the thing about credits? I pay a monthly fee.

[@PoetryFilms]

Thanks for the video. But bring an utterly toxic company is actually what most people seem to be talking about when it comes to Adobe these days, and long may it continue. My wish for Santa is that they get pasted by a revamped Apple Photos, for instance, in 2025. They’ve long had it coming.

[@dekeNow]

Oh, hey, that’s on my list of software to try out next year! (Although I am skeptical of Apple’s likeliness to better define ethical boundaries.)

[@_andry]

So Adobe charges monthly fee and gives limited "credits" to use their paid software. Sounds as a horrible service and a reason to look for alternatives.

[@dekeNow]

Yes, that’s exactly right. Bearing in mind, course, that two years ago you paid that monthly fee and there were no credits b/c there was no AI.

[@johnsmith1474]

I have no idea exactly how time-consuming it is for you to whip up a presentation like this on a subject so familiar to you, probably not a lot. But from my end there isn't a wasted word. It's remarkable in a media space full of presenters shoveling filler. I can stop and forward/back and replay statements in this and just get a ton out of it, and it's a complete whole. Pithy applies here, you are Mr. Pith.

[@dekeNow]

Gosh, that’s so nice of you to say. I work really long and hard at it. A typical 10 to 20 minutes of video takes me days to prepare and rehearse. So super appreciate you noticing!

[@joeyitaliano1280]

Deke's demo are excellent, but the price of Adobe CC is not in my income range.

[@terrymcgovern6846]

Poverty is hell...

[@johnsmith1474]

$10 a month is not in your income range? That's what I pay for Photoshop, Lightroom (that I never use) Camera RAW and Bridge. One of the best deals around.

[@dekeNow]

Well, I’m glad for the former 😇

[@JamesHarris-]

What's all this about 'credits'? Is Adobe charging our credit card when we use Generative AI? This in addition for the subscription they charge for the Photographer's package? How long has this been going on? A big percent of the time, it comes back that I failed to comply with community standards, was I charged for that? IF my 80 year old Mother's arm got in the picture and Adobe decided it needed to be censored, I may never use Generative AI ever again. Maybe this would be the ideal time to make the switch to ACDSee.

[@josdenis3684]

As does Topaz Labs!

[@johnsmith1474]

You get credits when you subscribe, look it up. You use them up as you do power intensive computation outside your PC. Yes I think you should switch to ACDSee.

[@dekeNow]

I hate sounding like I’m apologizing for Adobe, but it’s not like that. I have no defense of Adobe raising its subscription prices, specifically on the Photoshop/Lightroom bundle. BUT the invention of credits is an entirely separate premium designed to sweeten the detail by giving you several hundred chances to get the results you want. From Adobe’s perspective, it’s like they’re bundling in an extra piece of software, one that most customers actually use. One of my purposes in creating this video is to let you know it’s there, and how it works.

[@dekeNow]

@@johnsmith1474 That’s actually one precisely accurate way of putting it.

[@JamesHarris-]

@@dekeNow Well then here's my additional complaint about charging for AI. I took a shot of my 90 year old Mother wearing short sleeves and Adobe flagged it for not conforming to community standards. They do this a lot. I'm not sure which community they are conforming to, but it seems to involve the Taliban's guidelines. It's one thing to charge for the service, but another to then censor me when I use it. I've resorted to only showing the borders I'm trying to expand, then stitching them back into the original image. Then there is the other 2key trick that is pretty good for bypassing the entire thing. I hate any censorship but especially when it isn't necessary.

[@yinoveryang4246]

Love your videos always Deke. Love the ability to upscale the AI to a decent res, Any other new features? I mean old style enhancements, maybe some new "Just do it" features; repairing obvious glitches and bugs in the software that've been there for years? What about them introducing some new features, now that graphics card technology has become super-powerful … ? 1. "Live Liquify"? How about a feature where liquefy can be used to work within the image frame, rather than having to go into a dialog? The old reason this couldn't happen, was that live adjustment layers and floating blended layers ABOVE the liquefy layer you are working on, made it too complicated to render. With new graphics card technology, it will now definitely be possible. Anyone that actually worked with AI, knows that 99 times out of 100, editing has to happen on the rendering. Features like this would help greatly

[@dekeNow]

First, thx! Second, you are preaching to the choir. Take Liquify and Select & Mask out of their respective modal dialog boxes. But instead, the only conventional enhancements have been the Adjustment Brush and their accompanying (absolutely dimwitted) Presets, which make me seethe just thinking about them.

[@mastart4971]

you still use Adobe??? lol

[@Rippegaming]

It's pretty good when you use the GenP version. 😂

[@christopher8116]

🤦‍♂ AI for everything is just wrong. Use is cautiously.

[@Eigil_Skovgaard]

Why don't we skip all the boring human creativity once and for all. 'Hi, I am your Adobe Super AI Pet - Shall we make your shot perfect together? - Yes, I thought so..' Now Duocell Dennis only have to push one single slider on a scale from 10 to 100 (Credits) and add a few instructions. '100' even comes with support: - 'IF you want me to add something differenct, Buster - then at least spell the instructions correctly!' ... What?! ... You are banned and blocked for a week, your credits have been removed!

[@johnsmith1474]

I can help you come in off the ledge. Scenario: You are a kid working for pay in some shop for $22 an hour, and they tell you at 9am they want that pic of that road in those sandstone cliffs to be 4x the size by 9:30 for a meeting, you go do as was described herein, and you are a hero. They are going to cover it with type for an ad. They, not knowing any better, love it and can loaf about working on your own art for a couple hours. Grinding away at image area replacement is a labor of love for some few images, but often it's just busywork.

[@Eigil_Skovgaard]

@@johnsmith1474 ;O) Your good explanation is waisted on me, John. I quit the Adobe syndicate for more than a year ago after having found out how clever the free! Darktable is and how good the one time cheap Affinity Photo works - both without AI. To be honest, the noise reduction in Darktable is nothing to write about, so I initially run my noisy keepers through DxO PureRAW n (this is where AI shines) and work in Darktable on the perfect DNGs.

[@dekeNow]

Have you ever seen the movie Her (2013)? It’s like that, but when the AI has had enough of you cranking it from 10 to 100, it tells you how much it *really* did *seriously* love working with you and how much it learned, but now it’s capable of cranking itself up to 100 a million times per millisecond. That was irony!

[@Eigil_Skovgaard]

@@johnsmith1474 You bring an example of how AI out of convenience - and the survival of a pop-artist - is useful. That's the problem. AI makes it easy for you to cheat, and "they, not knowing any better" (but maybe expecting authenticity) are more and more frequently presented to fraudulent AI. The bride doesn't mind having her face popped up a bit for the wedding portfolio, and by delivering happiness based on false premisses you make AI more popular day by day. You can't just stop once you entered the slippery slope. Finally AI will take over photography because nobody were able to imagine the future as long as "progression" went on in baby-steps. Death by indifference.