WHAT NOT TO DO WITH YOUR DSG TRANSMISSION | MK6 GTI

[@THEmfbro]

i just picked up a mk6 and bro i was nervous but thank you for this vid it’s definitely cooled me down a lot

[@Drpepperkiller10]

You can downshift while on throttle, as long as you don't quickly double tap and bang the redline. Even if it's not in Manual mode, D and S mode always downshift when you floor it naturally

[@Subpac_ww2]

Only certain aftermarket software with such settings can let you hit the bapbapbap line in manual mode. My APR TCU Software allows it but overall not a fan of the software for other reasons. You cannot hit the bapbapbap with stock software.

[@bm_wuratli6883]

@@Subpac_ww2 wtf is bapbapbap????* 😂

[@bm_wuratli6883]

and also he forgot to mention the safest to left the car is simply put N dsg then P boutton then move dsg N to P leave the car* i know there alot ppl has bad habit who killing dsg slowly*

[@RobFisherUK]

I totally agree with the idea of understanding how your machinery works and having sympathy with it. A lot of DSG cars have auto-hold, so they apply the brake for you when you're on an incline, so that helps.

[@aztr0k1d]

The manual version has the auto hold break feature too, pretty cool. I’ve never had a car with that before (only owned older gtis)

[@RobFisherUK]

@@aztr0k1d before I got the car I didn't see the point. Now I find it much more convenient that sitting with my foot on the brake or messing with the parking brake.

[@dwightwilliams311]

Dsg are not good transmission

[@RobFisherUK]

@@dwightwilliams311 the DSG is great to drive. My main concern is the expense if it breaks. But there's a decent chance it won't break: I hear horror stories but that doesn't mean the failure rate is high.

[@heikoscheuermann]

@@dwightwilliams311 shows that you have no clue what you're talking about. there is dry clutch and wet clutch. The ones with wet clutch belong to the best transmissions on the planet, the dry clutch is the old one and has clutch wear and overheating problems.

[@ravenbergdev]

Thanks man. Will soon be driving with a dsg transmission. Good to be educated beforehand.

[@dailydrivensedans4875]

Btw the tcu will not let you overrev the dsg. The "money shift is not possible. It will not let you downshift if the requested gear will be above redline. Same with upshifts. It will not let you shift into a gear putting you below idle speeds. When you "manually shift" what your actrually doing is "requesting" the tcu too do these things. The computer has the control. If it thinks your asking it to do something stupid it can and will say no fuck off😂. Atleast i think it will. Theres no way it lets you overrev. I know it wont let you underrev as ive tried too upshift at 1500rpms before and it wont so. U cannot stall nor blow a dsg...

[@ghettouchiha364]

That’s facts I have Mk6 Golf and I tried to downshift quickly just to see if it will redline and it didn’t. Only went from 5th gear to 4Th but wouldn’t go to 3rd gear unless I slow down more. Samething with upshifting I can change from 1-3 gear at 2000rpm but 4th needs to be Atleast 3500rpm before I can shift

[@dailydrivensedans4875]

@@ghettouchiha364 assumingly you have a dsg. I didnt know this for along time but you can actrually skip gears (atleast with the 7spd). I did it accidently double clicking the paddles. Say your in 6th you can go straight too 4th by tapping it quickly twice. Im guessing you can prolly do it triple but not alot of situations for that. I typically only downshift up too 3k rpms as these things make plenty of torque specially tuned.

[@Adamantinne]

When I need to pick up speed on the freeway in my MK6, for instance, to overtake another car, I downshift to generate extra power. When I need to change lanes or pass another vehicle, I prefer to do so swiftly, without lingering.

TCM in your car prevents money shifting. There are programmed safeties in place, the car knows how far you can downshift, unless you have asked "a friend of yours who can do it cheaper" to tune your transmission.

[@oddities-whatnot]

Thank you for the advice, I really appreciate that. Im in the UK and was considering DSG for my next car and this is very useful to know. Ive had CVT in Subaru and although not designed for hard acceleration, im not into that anyway and for general town and out of town use would be preferable with CVT for me I think.

[@arsyad1011]

Dont left brake in incline, unless need to move. Dont launch often. Dont close gap often in a traffic. Dont downshift while accelerate

The "don't downshift when accelerating" should be adjusted: don't MANUALLY downshift if you are already accelerating. When you step on the gas, the car automatically downshifts to give you the power you requested. If you then downshift more, you will either put yourself above power band or it will simply refuse to downshift because you will exceed the redline. Downshifting in DSG if you wanna accelerate is completely cool, just downshift first, then add gas smoothly so that your turbo spools up.

[@thabzaone3784]

My call rolles back yesterday in an incline in traffic, i was so lucky I don't hit the car behind, wish i had seen this video sooner

[@jhbrown53]

I have a 2012 Jetta TDI bought it with 150k and knew I would go thru the entire car. It is now stage 3 with a large turbo & has the transmission tune. I do most of my own work but ended up finding a VW TDI specialist about an hour and half away. The dual mass flywheel was starting to chatter a bit so figured I better get that done and ordered a new set of clutches since the trans was out. I was surprised when he told me he doesn't see many DSG clutches go out and acted like it didn't need to be done. I figured since I didn't know how the previous driver took care of it I would replace it and with Hp increase. The Malone trans tune is around 350$ but is crazy worth it. This car is a blast, break the tires loose a 40mph and leaves a nice black cloud all while getting 43mpg. I have got 51 mpg on long trips with cruise set.

[@psiturbo]

am happy the black cloud is for the air you and your family breath

[@justin0185]

Mah man. Thanks for the insight. I have a dsg in my 14 tdi Passat

[@korey420]

I changed my dsg fluid and decided to install the o ring that goes on the filter housing cover, wrong and lost about 3 quarts of fluid in 3 days.. i drive my bug hard ( 2012 beetle turbo 2.0tsi e888 Gen 1 dq250 dsg with ko4 turbo) and the fluid starded spraying from the filter housing and all over the dp... Long story short, i refilled to proper level and did a dsg relearn.. everything is fine but b4 i did the relearn, it was clicking whem i put ti in drive and 1 2 3 gears.. I immediately did the dsg adaptation and no more clicking and smooth shifts

[@danielitttle]

Loving the videos brotha!! By the way do you mind dropping a link to the bolts you used for the mounts? I can’t find the transmission mount bolts anywhere 😭

[@Wattis161]

Sure thing! Here’s a link for dsg transmission bolts. Transmission Mount Hardware Kit mk6 gti www.ecstuning.com/b-assembled-by-ecs-parts/transmission-mount-hardware-kit/1k0199555rkt3/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwyt-ZBhCNARIsAKH1175cdNbSxuSi5wgcHZnwG2ZqsFhn4pvR2aZmxtc0y9Kam-Qagrmp2okaAoWPEALw_wcB

[@89dungey]

How do you guys park? I’ve been foot on the brake, put it in park and engage electronic e-brake 1:20

[@PJWALL89]

Do you service your MU unit? In VW owners manual stated its "seal for life" but when I looked up on YT they some people change MU oil.

[@timeformetoact6]

I noticed you are going to pass someone in manual mode, start by pressing throttle so the DSG is already ready for the lower gear and you build boost.

[@Cianintholt]

How about kickdown 😅 thats basicly shifting down whem full trottle

[@dcerty1852]

I think kickdown is safe because the computer is doing it

[@dailydrivensedans4875]

Not only have i not launched my mk7 gli in over but i havent even done a first gear pull in over a year. The gear difference between 1st and 2nd makes for alot less wear and tear on everything. And with mine struggling to even put down power on 2nd gear pulls i mostly do 3rd gear and up pulls. I have a feeling that will pay off in thousands down the line. Also if you are tuned you may have the option too launch your car with traction control on (stock you have too have it off for a reason; a good reason) launching your car is very hard on it; but launching your car with traction control engaged is even worse. Spinning the wheels while yes wasting power also is protecting your drivetrain. Particularly the axles, lsd/differential and transmission. The lsd in the cars cant even handle the full factory power outputs which is why you need traction control off. The gti/gli had very strong axles but if you repeatedly launch your tuned car with tsc on you are likely too suffer from some serious problems later on. Think about it- youve got all that energy and your trapping it so where does it go? Starts slightly twisting and moving drivetrain components which wears them down then boom. You just launched your car the tires chirped tac kicked in and your axle snapped before the car even moved an inch.

[@Frans39188]

Everything you said is also valid for a manual transmission with a single clutch

[@marcdaniels9079]

Of course - DSG is basically 2 manual gearboxes with a clever actuator and computer

[@Achannel_o]

Thanks for your advice/help man, I’ve just bought a 2013 Audi A5 2.0 TFSI Quattro S-Tronic. I love it but it’s really taking some getting used to as I’ve never driven a DSG before, thought I’d get the hang of it pretty quickly as I’m a coach driver and drive coaches with automated manual transmissions. I’ve noticed it’s very smooth and fast when driving but sometimes it throws a fit at me when manoeuvring as I like to do my manoeuvres quickly so I’m out of ppl’s way it’s hard to get used to taking things a lot slower to allow the clutch chance to feed in properly. My driveway is also quite difficult to reverse into as there’s 2 trees in the entrance either side so if you don’t position yourself properly you’ll end going up the tree stump the transmission really does not like that and once you upset it takes a while to sort itself out I normally have to shift back into P and hold it there for a few seconds then continue. I need to keep remembering it’s not a torque converter and that it uses 2 clutches.

[@ThaTraitor]

If it acts up like that somethings wrong. Its not supposed to. I got the same engine and tranny, both on stage 2, basically the dame car just that its an a4, and Im telling you its not supposed to act like that. There is no faster transmission than a dsg. You can try resetting the adaptation of the transmission, it often helps with weird shit like this. That goes: (Car has to be at working temps and completely turned off) Get into car Depress gas pedal fully for about 30s, do NOT LET OFF Start ignition (not engine) Stay on the gas for another 30s or at least as long as you hear the gearbox work under your booty Turn off the ignition Keep the gas pedal depressed for another 30s Release pedal. Leave car Lock Unlock Start Testdrive for about 15mins in D(rive) and 15mins in S(port) mode. If it works buttersmooth after that, youre welcome, I just saved you about 1500 bucks. If it don't, sorry, was worth a try.

[@Achannel_o]

@@ThaTraitor Oh no mate alls good that isn’t actually an issue this was from when I literally first got the car and now it’s extremely smooth and it’s fine when manoeuvring it’s because 1. I’ve been getting used to it and 2. It’s learning and adapting to how I drive this is usually how it is with automated manual transmissions which is why the coaches I drive sometimes misbehave and they don’t have a chance to adapt to a certain driver they are being driven differently all the time. The DSG reset is actually likely to be detrimental if performed because you’re essentially telling it to relearn everything.

[@ThaTraitor]

@@Achannel_o the dsg reset does wonders believe me. If these issues wouldnt have gone away by now I assure you the reset would take care of it. The issue is that the learning process with these dsgs is not overwriting but additive. Meaning the data gets piled and piled until at some point it gets some funky data here and there and starts acting up. The reset clears all that and lets it relearn all adaptation. First thing one must do after buying a dsg car. Glad yours took care of itself in time though.

[@ciaran134]

I've never had a automatic and getting one soon this is putting me off them lol

[@joesaiditstrue]

it isn't like a normal automatic, it doesn't have a torque converter

[@bmuns6445]

My 2014 VW GLI with DSG just hit 280K today. I did drop the trans and put a new OEM clutch kit and flywheel in at 230K. But I can definitely hear bearings rattle. Love these cars. Best to get rid of them at 150K. Thats my 2 cents.

[@jhbrown53]

How many dual mass flywheel have you put in with the 280k ?

[@jabezhalligan3426]

Hey so question I’m new to my MK6 GLI is it okay for me to upshift while pressing the gas? I’m hearing people saying not to downshift but not hearing them say no to upshifting

[@q8kingo358]

Brother i want to ask you , i bought R36 with 187.000 K.M and the owner said i didn’t change the gear oil and the differential he just add oil to them , and i now it is wrong , may you advise me with something ? am grateful 💜🙏🏻🌹

[@krishnapatel2863]

Always use your parking brake when parking

[@lugia257]

hello i have a question concerning the dsg transmission, i noticed that when parking in a parking lot its hard to go extra slow for a perfect park what is the best way to drive slower when parking?

You can slow yourself down with brakes while reversing or inching forward, just don't do that for multiple minutes as both your brakes and clutches are rubbing. SOME rubbing is OK, a lot of rubbing is not.

[@joerivankallo]

The real reason why not to downshift when accellerating is because, lets say you're in 3rd gear and speeding up, the other clutch has 4th gear in standby (due to DSG software). Downshifting at that moment, makes the other clutch to switch from 4th gear to 2nd gear, which takes a lot of time to do. During that time your revs gone up for 1000rpm or more, creating a huge danger to downshift at that high rpm.

[@hettel_visual]

are you saying that it's best to be in manual mode when you wanna take control of the shifting? Odd they allow paddle shifts in automatic mode if there was a chance of damaging the trans.

[@joerivankallo]

No that's not what I mean. I only technicaly explained why it's not a good idea to downshift a DSG while revving up. Either you are in manual mode or in automatic mode, makes no difference.

[@spratt816]

Try putting your car in neutral at lights or when ever you at a stop for some time because if you notice the car have a tendency to pull forward when you lift your leg of the brake that’s because the clutches are slightly engaged that is actually wear the clutches out because it is actually slipping until you apply acceleration

[@rodpaine7552]

Very good information, but too bad the audio has very poor quality in much of the video, and is hard to understand at some points. Folks producing these videos should pay more attention to the quaility of their audio, to insure that the person watching the video can also clearly hear the person and what they are saying and not hard to understand due to engine or vehicle speed noise!

[@wakaflockaproject]

What about changing it to N when stationary?

[@sameftek9799]

Great tips! Thank you.

[@Wattis161]

You’re welcome ☺️

[@David-vx5tk]

So my gti does not have the auto hold button so what do I do while stopped on a hill

[@markokaplic9328]

So u dont have to let go off the gas when switching gears in manual mode?

[@Wattis161]

Nope.

[@rpawankumar]

Is it Okey to upshift using paddle shifter while in D or S mode ...like, in D5th gear, can I make it to M6 ?

[@M4TR1X]

Any advices for DSG hold hill assist?

[@SavageCips]

Hey bro I have a weird question for you do you apply your e brake whenever you park?

[@Wattis161]

Yup! Especially when I park on a hill

[@Frombc2thefuture]

Hey bro can you use the paddle shifters while on normal d and if u put it into s mode will the car shift on it’s own if u forget it would be grate if u did a video explaining how to use them

[@joemaxwell59]

Yeah you can use the paddles whenever and it’ll shift for you if you forget

[@dailydrivensedans4875]

I always downshift when i put the throttle down?? It is iffy though obviously dont down shift if your in the higher revs as well duh😂. But downshiftin the dsg is different from a manual. It downshifts smoother when slowing obviously but it can also downshift just a smooth at certain throttle positions. If you can kinda picture preset shift points based on throttle and rpms then you can basically replicate it manually. If your at 2k rpms and 5th gear and want to downshift to 4th youve got too picture how much throttle you would need for the computer too autodownshift. Too much and youll be looking at 3rd gear throttle at 4th gear rpms. So dropping one gear from say 2k to 2300 rpms you need to be barely touching the gas. Too mcuh and you get a really rough slow unpleasant shift( bad for dsg) to little and it might have been expecting too just coast or keep a steady speed and also be bad. Now say your downshifting from 5th at 2k too 3rd at maybe around 3k. Then downshift too 4th like before holding the throttle steady then increase throttle the same proportions (its just like a manual you want too match the rpms but its completely different then a true manual. Much harder too get right as your trying too think like the computer. Idk how to explain this well tbh. It took me a really long time too get the smoothest shifts in my dsg. I still get bad shifts tbh. Its almost like its inconsistent but its not. Theres just some variable somewhere your not noticing. Like ill go full throttle and shortshift at 4k rpms and get a super clean shift but do the same at 5k rpms and get a super rough slow shift. I still dont have it mastered but its because its the computer.

[@oh_look_bananas]

I’m learning these things way too late in my dsg ownership.

[@butchfajardo8832]

I would rather choose a manual or automatic transmission.

DSG is a dual-clutch automatic.

[@peterpanini96]

Interesting... but car does these things automatically... just drive slow to make it last... Smoking tyres is not healthy for your dsg... I did that to mine and for now still holding up clocking 45000km... 😅

[@thandolwethuntini5200]

Thanks for the video

[@Subpac_ww2]

Showing a stick shift car miss a gear while drag racing is NOT a DSG scenario....first of all you need aftermarket TCU software to go beyond factory redline and the car knows if it would go beyond that and lock-out the downshift to protect itself. Sorry, but this videi cannot be taken seriously by someone who actually knows how a DGS works.

[@mathees]

If you have owned a older dsg you know exactly what he meant by that

[@rileywagner6741]

It’s not even about being at red line… Even under normal or slightly aggressive throttle downshifts while accelerating is detrimental. Seems like you don’t know how a dsg works homie 🤣🤣

[@mathees]

@@rileywagner6741 On my 7.5 gti I haven’t had it happen that much but firt time it happened on my mk6 i thought i had to have broken something even my friend was like wtf happened. DSG transmissions are weird and clunky sometimes but when you drive them like they are supposed to they word amazing

[@rileywagner6741]

@@mathees I just got rear ended and my 2019 6mt was totaled so I just drive the dsg in manual mode all the time. It really takes away from anything clunky happening.

[@mathees]

@@rileywagner6741 Anytime i want to drive sporty i drive in manual mode with the dsg knob makes me feel like im driving a sequential box haha

[@yeetski69]

Maybe I should have watched this before getting 2 r32’s

[@mgl2708]

Step 1: Don't buy a car with a DSG Transmission. Step 2: Enjoy life

[@marcdaniels9079]

My Tiguan just needed a new clutch pack at 103km. Very very expensive. Avoid at all costs - pun intended

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Downshifting while accelerating on a stock vehicle isn't detrimental as all this is still limited by the ECU and TCM. If it has been flashed, then that's a different story.

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

There is literally no reason to downshift while accelerating even if it doesn’t harm anything on DSG. Your revs go up when accelerating, when you downshift your revs also go up. Only scenario you would downshift is to slow down, or to get the revs to be in the power band for accelerating. If you already have the power to accelerate, there is no reason to downshift.

[@joesaiditstrue]

I have the DSG tune, in auto mode, hitting the accelerator forces the car to usually drop 2 gears as it accelerates, well it does when I'm in 5th or 6th

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@joesaiditstrue That's the same for a stock DSG too.

[@kurtgabbidon2666]

Goo video, thanks

[@VAGZILLAR]

You absolutely cannot money shift a Dsg or dct transmission. That's false, the car will physically and is programmed to never let you and you cannot program it out unless you have a custom tune on the dsg.

[@simonheywood1286]

Thanks 4 sharing!!!!

[@rustyestok]

i have a whining noise on deceleration. if anyone knows anything please help.

[@illusionm4n958]

There could be play on the input shaft, which loads up a bearing when decelerating

[@joemaxwell59]

What’s ur exhaust

[@Wattis161]

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[@samwells7485]

Great video

[@giovahnwatson8386]

Nice!

[@NoxiousPond]

The easiest way to remedy these problems is to just learn stick shift 😉 it only has 200hp. It doesn’t need a dual clutch. Manual is where it’s at for hot hatches

[@Bahle_Gaji]

Ok

[@Teasa617]

Not much of an option in my case. Mk5 R32 with dsg only in the US

[@davidcsoka4234]

What not to do ? Hmmm buy

[@mattandkatchristie2552]

So...in other words if you're gonna drive it hard! Just get something else lol

[@mattandkatchristie2552]

I have a mk5 manual. Was debating on grabbing a mk6 auto but I'm scared about the Transmission

[@Wattis161]

Or keep up with repairs and have shorter service intervals.

[@Wattis161]

At least with a manual it’s cheaper to repair

[@skltfz4997]

so in conclusion, don't drive it to prevent wears :D

[@ShaMana999]

This is the third DSG video I've seen and all use the same source. The sad thing is you friend don't understand the points made.

[@Wattis161]

all the points I've shared I've learn from other dog owners over the years. is there any new tips or habits I should stay away from?