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[@Sickofitall-76]

I have to say that Sean is a GREAT asset to your team!! That guy always has the best attitude, never complains and just DOES without having to be told! Dives in and does the 💩 jobs without a peep. Not to mention a fantastic mechanic (automotive repair technician) in many different aspects! Oh and he puts up with Hunter’s BS too, guys a legend!

[@ronaldbrown7780]

What he said.

[@tomyot77]

A reason I watch Fab Rats is because you get to see the reality of different ideas that work or fail never always a win.

[@Inspector6X2]

I appreciate your transparency. Many folks would have left the design they concluded would not work on the editing floor. You chose to share it to tell a complete story. Good on you.

[@truracer20]

Hook loader like used for roll-off dumpsters. Lay the flat bed on the ground put the vehicle on the bed, then hoist the bed and vehicle onto the truck.

[@logicalguy488]

Knowingly welding something right over a bolt you may have to remove makes you a qualified Ford Engineer.

[@calebstory5396]

Amen and Amen!

[@BuilderofRat]

Not just Ford!!! Caterpillar, GM, Polaris, Yamaha, need I go on?

[@thomasgraham5842]

hahahahahahahaha old fords dont live long or prosper

[@oregonfordguy9812]

​@thomasgraham5842 the 70s fords are still rolling and are now pulling high dollar.

[@ronniec8038]

@@thomasgraham5842 not true.

[@leonard7830]

You started this project to build a roll back so build it into a roll back guys. Mod the frame and ago to different springs to get thee height down. You have the talent we believe in you make it work.

[@mannybarroga1878]

Don't be too hard on yourself, you're working out of a vision off your head and not from a print or drafted design. Setbacks like that is what's going to get you to the next level. I'm confident you're going to come up with something that meets your needs. God bless you.

[@randomazzbrandon5676]

Sean is a goat , never a bad attitude, just dives in and gets stuff done , definitely a rare breed of human , Sean if your reading this we see you buddy! And Paul , you always have a plan B dont beat yourself up , however the bed turns out its gonna have that fabrats touch and be unique 👌🏻 and to Michelle, quiet on set!!!! 😂😂😂😂

[@masterbates7016]

I love the fact that he just does it and gets it done and doesn't feel the need to over articulate what he's doing to the camera. I can't stand watching Robbie's channel anymore he over articulates everything

[@CharlesBrochu]

Shawn is definitely the Man , Paul also. Hope to always see shawn and paul. Good attitudes, not like those damn teens. useless.

[@mcvet57103]

Put a dump bed. But switch from leaf spring axles to air bag suspension you can deflate for loading. To lessen the load angle.

[@BuilderofRat]

That is a good idea. I can see that working, plus, you can adjust the air for more weight or less weight. I have a 1923 T Bucket with air bag suspension on each end. I have a front receiver, and it is a hoot for moving trailers around. Just let the front air bags down drive under the hitch, then air up the bags. The bed lowering would do the same thing.

[@Bigtbuilder]

Or could you make it a Beaver Tail with dropping air bag suspension? Or how about a RoRo body (roll on roll off)

[@obroberts6533]

Agreed, I am worried about the loading angle. Now I see why a semi has the batteries under the step, easy access.

[@Bigtbuilder]

@@obroberts6533 a roro body has a lot of possibilities for different applications: flat be, container, tipper, etc etc. Used by NATO forces for that exact reason.

[@000622477]

​@@Bigtbuilderthey should look into military style flatbed like the HETTs use. Hook the whole bed and pick up and drop off

[@bradrick2513]

This the exact reason I'll never stop watching fabrats.. mistakes happen when your on a vision an that's ok that's why we love you guys. You show everyday reality an not just the winning parts.. keep it up guys can't wait the the next one

[@bushratbeachbum]

Massive respect to you. You'll get it sorted. It's so refreshing to see people being themselves and being honest. Don't go changing. Luv ya

[@shivermetimbers9316]

Exactly. Only channel like this I really even follow anymore

[@lory2622]

Sincere comment here. Thank you for “fabricating” honestly. Your team’s experiences are more like what I find when I do projects. Failure, replanning and eventually, with a bit of tail wind luck, completion… in a word, real. Thanks guys.

[@easycamperdandog]

Its not always how well you plan something, its how well you adjust to the changes in the plan.

[@congoliab]

The scholar Mike Tyson says: "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face"

[@wesman7837]

I'm pretty disappointed they scrapped the plan like that, though! Big disappointment over "looks!" 😞

[@ronaldbrown7780]

Man plans God Laughs 😅😅😅

[@RLee-zs1ds]

The best part is not the destination, it's the journey getting there.

[@joecoool100]

Shawn is a worker!! Swing that sledge like a man. He is a man of few words, and good attitude.

[@JasonAJames]

I commented on the last roll back video when you asked if it should be a roll back or a stationary flatbed. I said roll back just for those who commented asking "when will it be done?". This is what we call "forever content". It never ends. That way I get these videos every week for eternity.

[@johnwalker2371]

😅😊0

[@jeffmertens9790]

😂😂

[@Ty-bz7zx]

Genius....

[@donniemcdaniel537]

17 months they got this

[@SeanMurtagh-pb6zk]

I love you guys at FabRats for a few reasons. First your family values. No one is born with a perfect hand in life but family makes it easier to play that hand. Second the humility. No one is perfect, but it is the way we deal with things that don't go right that measures us up. Third is happiness. Doing what you love with those you love, working hard and having fun. It is the dream. Thanks guys. Gives me hope for my life.

[@TyroneNorman-j2i]

Paul, Keep it up mate, this is the kind of issues that builds confidence and knowledge even if its eventually !! Yea Sean is a true asset he just never complains always getting into it !! Hunter too is a laugh, love the way he always doubts Paul and comes off second best !!

[@tommydanger2564]

See, this is why I like you guys. It goes all the way sideways and you hold it together and keep going forward with good attitudes. You’re showing us what you’re made of and giving us and our kids An example of how to get her done. Thank you.

[@patriot8087]

It goes without saying, Shawn has turned out to be a pretty good hand. Things would be a lot different without him. just sayin.

[@markw.2106]

He's not a KZbin "personality", and thank goodness. Everybody on here is just normal, the kind of guys you'd like to hang out with for a weekend!

[@spruceville660]

I’d love to be their neighbour…… I’d be just as bad for projects. And I mean that in a good way🤣😂🤣

[@HillbillyHippie530]

He seams like a very chill guy, doesn’t let the petty stuff get him worked up. 🍻🤙🏻

[@dennisolsen4507]

You are 100% right. But it's Sean.

[@vanrobinett3309]

Hunter has also come a long way from where he started.

[@steelmill]

You guys do a heck of a job especially with no blueprints. Trial-and-error makes for good experience and knowledge.

[@BuilderofRat]

True, but sometimes it gets expensive. Ask me how I know this?

[@DanielSilva-ws5cq]

Education always costs. Thanks for sharing the journey. It's still fun an enjoyable video. Looking forward to the next one.

[@BuilderofRat]

Me too.

[@BlakDrgn]

When you were using the lathe with the emory cloth, something I learned (the hard way) is you never hold the emory cloth strip in one hand. Always two. If you use one, it can wrap around what your polishing and just abour rip your fingers off. Food for thought! 33:36

[@terryjones7299]

Some days you're the bug, other days you're windshield!! Just keep on going! Great vid!!

[@davebaker489]

Hind sight being 20/20 I still believe "stretching" the trucks frame is the way to go.

[@j.j.clingman4083]

I’d definitely come up with some how to make a roll back work for the build for sure!!! I absolutely love roll backs and have been looking for one for a while that doesn’t cost to much!!! I have two different trucks already for a roll back bed!!! Both being Chevys!!! There definitely has to be a way to make a roll back bed work for your build though!!! But if I was building a roll back I would definitely want it long enough to be able to fit different vehicles also!!! Awesome video fellas!!!!

[@akghound]

Paul just might have a rebuilt rollback for sale!

[@michaelcanto6175]

If I had my way, that flat bed would be first! Then the accessories Paul

[@bicentennialamerican4200]

Dump bed/ tilt bed will still be super awesome!! Partial tilt with ramps. 👍

[@sivart481]

Paul, I legit had 2 days of struggle bus earlier this week. Brain fog was not processing. Great work laughing it off and working the problem.

[@josephpuou96]

Extend frame add a tandem 👍

[@Gantzz321]

been waiting for him to see this himself, it was commented on last week but I don't think the comment was ever noticed.

[@000622477]

Or a half track lol

[@jacobhardy2849]

Create a bed like a roll off dumpster. You can put the flatbed on the ground and drive anything on it from your crawler to that mini cooper in the onX challenge then hook and lift it up on. And it will still function like a dump bed/rollback. It’s something I’ve always wanted to do. You can even create different beds for it.

[@marvincarter870]

Paul and Sean sometimes a plan doesn't work as you envision it and you have to re-organize your thought process and you came up with a new plan for a bed for the Rat Back truck. The tilt bed should work for you. Nice seeing Michelle, Grandma, Gracie and the rest of the family. Hunter is so funny!

[@Gantzz321]

still waiting for Paul to see that he needs to extend the frame 2 feet (min), move the rear axle back, maybe even put duel axles on it and keep it roll back.

[@DukeDave1]

Hay Paul. I love you guys and your creativity to over come. I'd say keep the role back parts and plans now you know something about width and height of bed, which is critical to your future design. Which was not known upto now. Good luck we'll be watching.

[@nicevans6827]

wheelbase needs to be longer surely?! its going to pick the front wheels off the ground when you use the rollback function. it will handle terribly with so much weight behind the rear axle on such a short wheelbase too.

[@TheBibliofilus]

Putting a third axle for support in the rear with lift so it can be raised up out of the way when empty might be the least bad solution.

[@jordanmpaul]

It'll likely have some kind of frame work on the under side to keep it from doing that. Plus that truck/frame with the cummins engine is pretty heavy in the front. Might float the tires if you load something heavy but the fj and side by sides or the sand rails won't ever phase it.

[@tetedur377]

Instead of using the horizontal rails of the pivot, what's wrong with using the frame rails of the truck itself for that function? Drill the frame, insert your bushings, and stick the bar through the bed rails. You can modify the rear of the truck bed to look like the rear of that pivot, including the ramp angle. I mean, the frame is boxed, so it should be strong enough.

[@Philip-ux4gk]

I've been watching these videos for about a couple months now and it's something I watch every day or when the new episode is on I watch it it reminds me of another show similar but you guys do it a lot better being honest but there can only be one Fab rats and that's you guys you guys are amazing keep up with all the awesome videos

[@SWResto]

I wondered why you didn't extend frame 30 inches ahead of rear axel moving axel back and set it up that way! But hey we all have different Ideas! Not saying either way is right!

[@toddrodgers5108]

I wish I was there to learn. And I'm 63. You have fun and good stuff. Blessings. Wyoming

[@austingabel9679]

Make the rear hafe (the dove tail) hydrolic of some sorts So when you need a dove tail, it's got it. When you want it flat, it can be a flat bed

[@wileypeacock6095]

I like this team. Paul, Shawn and Hunter. They are fun to watch.

[@donlum9128]

On the positive side, bet they make something that is going to work excellent and look cool.

[@donnac.1609]

One thing about this adventure into building a rollback; you learned a ton of good information! You will eventually build a rollback, and it will go so smooth you will be shocked! This truck is going to be a great addition to your fleet! Looking forward to seeing it come together under your new plan!! Creativity wins the battle!!

[@patriot8087]

Why not lengthen the frame put another axel in the roll back if needed? wall la, you have a roll back. May the force be with you boys.

[@johns5135]

Landoll made a Centerfold truck. The bed slid back flat and the frame had a pivot in it that would move the middle of the truck, behind the cab up which would drop the back of the bed to the ground. Always liked those trucks.

[@larryskeggs9497]

Should get Johnathan W to do a road trip he’d put you on the right road in a heartbeat 😃

[@bigleague6723]

Jonathan's a pretty smart guy.

[@andrewthornbury8844]

He's scratch built or reengineered everyone of his wreakers and roll backs. He knows a thing or two

[@jalers69]

2yrs minimum...That's awesome!!. Keep up the great work guys! What you guys are doing is not a simple task.

[@samduty554]

A little bit late but how hard would it have been to convert the old cabover rollback into a 4wd this truck is cool but is it worth all that?

[@delbutler885]

The old cabover Isuzu was traded to Merlin a long time ago

[@RandyFriesen-ey1qr]

What I love the most about this channel is the comraderie between everyone. That and the never say doe attitude. Reminds of my dad. He was a self taught welder, mechanic, stone Mason, carpenter, black Smith. I would love to sit in that shop and watch and help out where i could. And throw firecrackers at hunter 😅

[@todd7105]

Paul, think about this before you continue, your wheelbase is way to short to put that long of bed on it. You are going to have way too much weight on the back past the rear axle, and have steering issues because the front tires will not have enough weight on then. lengthen your frame and move the axle back.

[@T51B1]

Yep. I hope the plan is still to shorten the bed

[@DB-yj3qc]

A few ft longer wheel base would be better. If I remember correctly it's being built to haul the FJ. That was the reason for 14 ft long bed. There is a reason some rollbacks run smaller tires on them.

[@chrisloehr6641]

I hate to doubt Paul's vision here, but it sure seems like the truck needs to be longer to support that bed. Stretching that frame would solve a lot of his issues.

[@laurence1643]

I mounted identical tool boxes on each side of my 91 f350 4x4. Used angle iron and ³/¹⁶ flat stock to come away from stuff sticking out on the frame. The truck has a steel flatbed dump bed. I really enjoy seeing this build.

[@ericwiningar8410]

That dodge frame is way too short to make a decent roll back. Especially a single rear wheel not a dual rear wheel. Your cab to axle length is very important to what length bed you can fit.

[@jeremyedwards7357]

He's just gonna use it to put the Rock crawler on he's not doin recoverys with it

[@billbillinger2491]

​@@jeremyedwards7357 How 'light' is his FJ?

[@brucescott4753]

Make the aluminum bed a tilt bed with a small dovetail on the back end of it. Tilt bed down where the dove touches drive or winch on the truck. I think I mentioned the dump in a previous episode.

[@jamesbigham9036]

Good morning this video is the first time I have heard Paul cuss on video. In my opinion your new idea might work better in the long run. Being able to adapt and change plans is all part of the fabrication process.

[@BuilderofRat]

So true!!! I have had a plan A, B, C, D, E, you get the idea. I use to work field service for Cat, and I remember looking at a parts book, and when ever they had a revision or change, it would look like this. Page 85A---85B----85C, And I have seen Page 85ZZ27. Sometimes one page was for 1 machine, you had to check the serial number. So, even multi Billion dollar corporations have issues from time to time. Can you imagine the Foreman for that part of the build having to ok and submit all of these up-dates? Do you suppose that someone was made to stand in the corner? LOL

[@onefootfighter22]

Outstanding sense of futility. You were missed at Sand Hollow . This is why I like watching Fab Rats, Thank you!

[@slngblde]

Anyone else notice that hunter sounds a lot like Owen Wilson when he says wow? 😂

[@wgthn5103]

Yessssss I thought I was the only one 😂😂

[@steveclark4291]

Thank you Paul for being a honest person ! I enjoy watching you and your crew as I learn a few things from you guys ! We all learn from our mistakes or should I say we should all learn from our mistakes !

[@jackboot5321]

How's that JEEPSTER coming along.....? Oh.....that's right. It's NOT.

[@delbutler885]

Hopefully Paul has hauled the Jeepster to the crusher. That way he can get caught up with the cool stuff.

[@bushratbeachbum]

Hows your KZbin channel going? I'd be interested to see what you're achieving with no changes or delays..

[@NCmountainsYouTubeChannel]

32:45 6x6 lengthen it. Out ! Put tandem axles the rear “. Lock it up “ you have the HP too “. Dig .

[@ryanbailey6600]

Quitter!

[@brianschmidt2747]

Paul with that truck style a static bed with dove tail. Well, screams old school cool.

[@travisbacon5527]

Extendo framo

[@caseyrenner7024]

Sean Is The Man!! Hes great addition to the shop and does a great job, Hes pretty handy on the recovery's! Just wanted you to know we all appreciate the heck outta him!

[@salparadise2006]

On my difficult projects I come to a spot where I thought I knew what I was gonna do next, but I just can't start for any number of random reasons. And then I'll see the flaw in my plan and the solution. Don't rush yourself. We're not going anywhere. You got the best channel on the web!

[@xombiexronad9345]

Question. Could you merge both ideas you had & do a dump bed with a pivoting tail (sorry, I think that is what you called it, but I am not certain)? Maybe that, if possible to do, we give you the best of both worlds & give you something closer to the rollback you wanted originally. Also, that for all the great content, ya'll are all so much fun to watch!

[@X-A-Z]

You were disappointed but you didn't get a bad attitude over it. This is one of the best things about your channel. Also, we need more Michelle!

[@homelessmuffins]

That if you did both the tilt bed and a tilt tail. Make it pivot on the same point. May also be good to getting over things by adjusting your tail up and get a better departure angle. On top of that you could put a pulley in the center of the tail, and use it like boom for a better more recovery options

[@Jameshilditch-gv3mm]

If you are a mechanic or a fabricator you have definitely done something where you just stop a say wth was I thinking.....😂love watching the show and I appreciate that everyone trust to be on the same page And is willing to help or figure out things and tell each other

[@madracer97]

any thought of doing a roll on/roll off style? basically a hooked arm at the front that rolls back and the rear is essentially on rollers. look at roll off dumpsters for example, they even make tow trucks with this system as you can basically set the deck on the ground for every type of vehicle without worrying about approach/departure angles.

[@ScottDeVoreSeabee02]

I enjoy watching you guys work things out and come up with some pretty stellar ideas. You can put a 1/4" diamond plate steel trap door hinged all the way across supported by some 2"x4" tubing on each side and in the center to allow access to the batteries and other equipment near the cab. The plate trapdoor only needs to be about 2' wide across the width of the truck bed. ??

[@ritchardposterior262]

I think with enough thinking you could make it work, thats why i watch is to see how your team overcome issues. If it requires chopping up the frame so you get the bed at the height you want, so be it. The roll back is every gear heads dream..

[@j.c.smithprojects]

what about a tilt bed with ramps extensions that slide out of the bed itself hydraulically? like the ten car haulers are made. gives you a short bed until you need it and an adjustable length when you do need it.

[@slamboy66]

OPP old ppl problems I hurt my back just sneezing too hard🤧🔙

[@anthonylee2099]

You’re doin great Paul. Your mind is like a Big Map! Sometimes what seems like the right road turns out to be the wrong one. Regroup and start over again! Sean, you’re a great team member. Hunter too. 🤙😎

[@RTVance]

Few Ideas: Would it be possible to use a/the stinger to operate the roll back bed? or Have the bed operate like a tilt trailer? That would move all stuff down lower. Hard to tell on the camera but it looks like that should give you 4-6 inches less in height. You could even have the dovetail operated by the stinger so in drive position the bed would be flat (Like a split tilt trailer.) You don't need two tanks. You can make a sidebox to place the battery and all your rigging into on the other side. You could even cut a door in the side if you insist on it being round.

[@FAL0perator]

No matter the direction the bed goes, it's still the coolest hauler on the road!

[@sonnicman]

@Fab Rats Hey Paul, here's an idea. What about an old-school race hauler? You know the kind with the slant bed that used to haul race/stock cars to the track. With that kind of slant, you should easily be able to drive the FJ or the tow truck right up onto it.

[@dwal2165]

Thanks for making. It will be ok. You will figure it out as you go.

[@KyleC2OO7]

Hate that it didn’t work out for you guys on that build. Better luck next time. Hit that thumbs up everyone let’s bring them some cheer!

[@Drvinkman]

How about making a hydraulic dove tail. You have the length in the bed and the rams to move the tail. Cut the bed in two, put a backing/pivot plate on each section and use your pipe that you used for the bushings for your pivot points.

[@chriszenker2468]

Thank you for explaining the toxin very interesting totally understand not spending money you are a good man for caring enough to not sell junk as always great vid Chris

[@chriszenker2468]

Sorry I was watching one video and comment on another but this video is great as usual Chris

[@jlkmotox]

Just a thought.. If you switch to airbag suspension, you could have that pivot point even further forward to allow the back of the ramp to get lower, also, you could deflate the bags during loading to get it even lower still.

[@raycole8687]

I think you will make a great fab rat truck as you always do hay it wouldn't be fab rat's if it all went to plan. That's what we like doing what you al do keep up the good work

[@eddieforce2341]

I’m glad that I’m not the only one that has days like this.

[@hometownchico]

Paul your hitting all around what they call a Roll-Off aka what we used call a Drop-Box as waste disposal companies use. My 2 uncles build the first one ever back in 1960. Go Google roll-off truck and you'll see what I'm talking about! Easy to build, you have the still and knowledge to build one, you'll be surprised how well they work and you can use your roll-back bed to boot!!! We use to haul our race cars to our local dirt track.

[@toddscott5499]

Do a tilt bed roll off. Use the same concept as a roll off dumpster. Bed tilts and then can roll off flat onto the ground like a dumpster then use a winch to pull back up onto the bed and a hydraulic ram to lay it flat.

[@navashe1]

Y’all are such hard workers, don’t fret you will figure out what to do next. I just look back at where you began and think about the successes that you have accomplished. Keep up the good work you can’t go wrong when you have a Shawn 👍🏼❤️

[@brentlance2379]

You have hydraulics. U could do a tilt bed that also has a tilting tail to lessen load angle.. hinge..and a cylinder or two at back. Look at some the tilt tail flat bed deck over trailers for ideas. Make whole deck tilt and a tilting whale tail on it as well.. be handy dandy.

[@869Dansky]

If you want a rollback use the frame from the original rollback truck. Also, if you’re going the tilt bed, you might want 2 rams to tilt the bed because you’ll loose the bed. Just look at accidents of dump truck when they lift the bed high. One ram makes the front of the bed twist and tip.

[@KrisK-i4f]

This is what I love about you guys , you improvise adapt and overcome ! No matter the problem , always a plan B…. 👍

[@TheMantruck]

Oh Paul, I’m so sorry buddy. That’s a kick in the junk. I feel your pain. But life goes on. You still have a lot of cool stuff.

[@TVsGringoStarr]

When Paul said that he was pissed I knew his frustration level was through the roof. That's the saltiest language I have ever heard from him. I can only imagine what Grandma Lolly would have said.😀

[@nocrackhere]

At 4:08 Paul showing off DAD strength by merely pulling tacked bars apart like butter!

[@manesse7]

The odds of getting it right when you start out with a “hybrid” chassis, engine and cabine, were quite slim from the get go. Love the way your team is pushing the project - and you show it all, failure and fun - that’s why The FabRats rocks.

[@jeremiahsmith7977]

3:29 this is the first time that Sean ever made me laugh till I cried 😂😂😂

[@StuArts-Kustoms]

I can see that axle needing to be moved back as far as possible, probably even further then what's left of the chassis. There's going to be a heap of weight hanging over the back as it sits atm. How much weight can those tyres and axle handle, the counterweight effect will move some of the front weight to the rear. I really want this to work for you guy, I just think this is going to be an issue in the future. Drive ability and safety

[@happydaddy2618]

RAMP TRUCK PAUL, cut a whole in the bed you can add fuel through. and cut you a panel to give access to your battery with a latch and a piano hinge

[@wadecaton4017]

I'm typing this before finishing the video, but I just had a great idea for the bed. How about installing one of those crane wenches on the bed. Put it at the front of the bed exactly in the center. It would surely pick up a sxs. Just make a harness for it. I've seen crane trucks in the oilfield. At your skill lvl, it's a piece of cake. Love the vids guys.

[@neil2809]

You know what I like when I'm down ? Free COMEDY with a twist. Nevers fails hear ENTERTAINMENT Souther Style LOVE YOU GUYS TAKE CARE and STAY WELL

[@tedneill1246]

I seldom comment but in this case I am VERY impressed with the attitude you guys have when stuff heads south...being "pissed" is fine but you guys never seem to loose sight of the tasks at hand and develope workarounds that are motivating to us all.

[@Xjtay1984]

Make a ramp that slides out from under the bed with a ram so you tilt then have the ram slide the ramps out ... then back in when done that way ramps can be long but not in the way