What off-road light should I buy? | LED vs Halogen vs HID - Light Sources

[@2MANCHU]

Great video, thanks for taking the time to break it down. I've been using KC products since the 80's, and still have some old school halogens. The new HID/LED tech is awesome 👍

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[@mazdaman1286]

Having used all three, leds are the brightest, hid very good but igniters gave some problems. Halogen easiest on the eyes on a long drive and bulb upgrades cheap. I have old eyes and don't blast down the road so Halogen do for me.

[@antoniors6452]

I'm not too old, and like hallogen over led 💪 i think leds are much brighter but doesn't give the light it should, compared to hallogen

[@The_JEB]

I think one thing to note here is that Halogen lights, due to their heat output, it helps with keeping snow and ice clear of the lens as the heat output melts the snow and ice off. I had a pair of Jetco 100w Halogen 6x8 square driving lights and a pair of Rigid Dually D2 flood lights and the Jetco lights very rarely had ice or snow build up where as the Rigid's usually did which lessened their light output.

[@The_JEB]

@@kchilites Good to know, does the Gravity lights come in spot as well as flood? I havent had the time to check

[@stevemckibben1201]

led pods pack with snow and ice in extreme conditions and barely haze the road. halogen yellow/amber lights hands down over any led on the market insofar as fogs for freezing or below snowing conditions work best

[@WilleJamesHuff]

Yep this is why on all of our county dump trucks I still ran halogen old rectangle plow lights. Simple to fix and change if needed. The one truck with led pods had issues the first season with them

[@tomlepski8306]

Excellent presentation and clearly expounded by a man who knows and understands the subject. Just bought a pair of KC Halogens last week and waiting to craft a front inverted U-bar to mount them upfront.

[@djkunter]

This helped me decide which light I need and end up getting for driving, trail, overland, and camping needs.

[@DBS5755]

HIDs in theory sound great but the bright white is terrible for visibility especially in dust clouds. Would adding an amber cover to the lens change the color enough to increase visibility?

[@SE-fk9le]

thanks for the vid... from this... i think i am going to go HID for my next light!

[@firetech7459]

It's a shame they don't offer the daylighter in HID any more and they don't stock the replacement driving beam pattern lens that they show. I loved the two sets of HID daylighters I have but one lens was damaged so now I have to go look for a whole different pair of lights. It's a shame KC doesn't continue support for an iconic product that was $$ to buy into.

[@MySingingDominoes]

Great info! I wasn't sure what HIDs were before this video, but now I got it! :)

[@brogadishu]

Had some OG daylighter halogens on my buggy years ago, and while it did the job, only barely so. If you really wanted to see where you were going, you needed 2 close, 2 mid, and 4 far aiming lights. For that, you also needed a high output alternator. Even then, halogens could only push far enough for me to feel comfortable up to 60-70 mph. I like LEDs for side, and close range illumination, and HIDs to push out past the effective range of LEDs. I need to be able to see where im going. I will sat that like the halogens also. But only give to my broke friends that cant afford real lighting. I'm old, man... don't judge.

[@littlegoobie]

I've seen quite a few offroad racing type setups where they'll have a row HID's mounted where the middle lights are aimed straight out, the lights on the outer left and right are angle inward and cross beams in front of the car . That way there's a hot spot in close where the beams cross, lighting is off to the sides where those beams continue out, and down range illumination from the lights aimed straight out.

[@betweenthepines4000]

I replaced my LED 6” aux lights for halogen 6” lights for winter driving. My LED headlights, fogs and previous aux lights would ice up in snow/wet driving causing extremely dangerous drive ability. Since switching to a sae/dot halogen aux in amber/yellow much improved visibility and safety. If you dont get snow then LED all the way!

[@dr.pastrami5272]

How are the hollys holding up?

[@mccarthy7566]

Wow! Much more education and information than I expected. Nicely done video.

[@fredriktellstrom3245]

Gr8 vid! First time since the debute of leds ive heard anyone in the selling businesses confirm what most hidusers already know about hids throwing length! big shoulderclap for that! but don't forget the fact that halogens melts ice off of the glass better than any of the 3 due to the energy conversion losses and you need a solid 75w+ hid to do the same as a 55w Halo does, leds naturally falls short for us up in the north due to this very reason even tho they're excellent lights 😁✌️

[@littlegoobie]

Yeah, that surprised me too. In the past 5 years, pretty much every comparison video raved about LED's and how they're smashing the competition. I never thought so either. HID will be the king of lighting for long range illumination, and durability for a while. The biggest shortcomings for LED at the moment i think are quality of product offerings and how they function (color spectrum, poor long range, power consumption). They can say LED elements last a million hours if they want. The fact is that everyone who's bought an LED light bar or whatever has had them fail LONG before its time. If it's not the LED/electronics failing, water leaks and your light rots from the inside out, or there's condensation on the inside that corrodes the reflector, or LED's dying off one at a time. This next one is the big one for me. Pretty much all LED lights are narrow spectrum lighting..very narrow compared to halogen and HID. Anyone who knows how our eyes and color vision works knows this is a bad bad thing if you're adding the extra lighting to be able to see things in front of you especially out in the distance. Every LED video out there mentions lower power consumption...yeah, lower power use in the crappy little led lights. I have some pretty high output LED flashlights that'll kill 4 18650 batteries in very short time. For offroad car lighting, if you're building an LED setup to compete with 2 or 3 55w HID offroad lights, you'll need to a giant LED light bar that sucks up 300-400watts. Where LED absolutely wins though is for up close, flood/spill lighting. If you want to light up everything directly in front (in close), in all directions, a small LED setup will beat HID and halogen.

[@djheinemann1331]

Perfect, KC! Excellent presentation on the pros, cons, compare & contrast, and overview of the differences in technology.

[@paulmcdowell8146]

Wow I thought I knew lighting but I have a more solid understanding of LEDS. I am a beginner to offroading and night offroading. I love my KC lights I have had my fogs and rock lights for about 2yrs now. I love they kc cyclone lights I have 4 of them on my jeep jk very durable and bright.

[@xXxguitarman93]

Perfect amount of information. I'll use this video as a future reference for people that don't fully understand lighting.

[@bigskimeisterful]

2020 Jeep has all LED so the natural direction of off road lighting most would think 🤔 of sticking with LED. After listening to this video I’m a bigger fan of the HID option. Good vid.

[@240mains]

LEDs are being Switched at 60hz or 90 hz ( might exhibit noticable flicker ) Halogen Filament lights are Continious beam . 130 watt H3 halogens are white and bright , very nice .

[@ROTAXD]

While led’s are great because of their low power consumption...the optics they require (high quality reflectors & lenses) to throw light any distance make them cost prohibitive. At this point I prefer retro fitting my old 6” halogen daylighters to hid. Much less expensive and they perform just as good as the led bars my buddies spent thousands on.

[@armandorjusino]

What a professional approach, excellent attention to detail and explaining every aspect, really a superb job, thank you,

[@ibnkhalood832]

Learned from High school + application of the learned = job done ✅ .great explanation

[@MrAlexsealey]

Great video. Another drawback with led is they don't get hot enough to melt snow and ice

[@chrisnas4]

There is another downside to Hid that's worth a mention and that is the high voltage requirements which are potentially lethal if care is not taken.

[@scootypuffjr.]

That adds to the excitement

[@himanshutiwari3582]

Good info! But.. this was more of comparison among different technology. I was expecting info about which type of light is suitable for which type of road conditions, for example, though led lights have more life and are advanced technology but visibility on wet roads and in rain is very poor. Please make a video about such comparison also

[@robormiston2841]

Can I convert my Ray line Halogen remote spotlight to a brighter bulb or lens? Keeping the same outer shell? I have the Rayline marine 146 sl remote control spotlight .Seems like I could fit a better bulb in with no problems?

[@rtownsend744brad]

Was this video a high school project presentation? The structure was 💯 by the book.

[@dasautovw702]

Great video!! Would like to see a real world comparison on the lights yall offer. Also comparing the different beam patterns.

[@dasautovw702]

That's awesome!! Can't wait.

[@vengfulcujo]

Yes a comparison video of beam patterns is due, I mean they've only been around since 1970.

[@littlegoobie]

this would be interesting. and it's gotta be the actual lights in use, not the drawing. Maybe setting them up on a rack and shining down a road with some things on the sides, some things in the distance, some things way down long range. If you still have them, it would be cool to see the original Daylighters with the 150w Par46 sealed beam spots in there too.

[@kenicemasayukiokishima9167]

Hi. I just wanna add. HID: needs few seconds to peak light. Only few. LED: needs few minutes to reduce brightness to protect overheating. The most cons of HID is the wiring and other components needed for it to work.

[@Dr_Xyzt]

As time goes on, I really appreciate halogen housings. It's easy enough to put a high performance LED into the housing and get reat results. Then, you stash a few other bulbs in the glove box as spares or different colors.

[@dr.pastrami5272]

I too appreciate hotdog housings.

[@boborlando559]

I have older KC lights on my jeep, can I just replace the bulb to and LED "bulb"? Or do I have to buy the whole light/housing if I want to upgrade to LED?

[@ReiCaixa]

I am looking to buy a few lights, maybe have different types in different places. I'd like to know the basics, and also pros/cons of different mounting positions. Examples: Bars on the back of the roof, front of the roof, hood, inside the grill, on a nudge bar.. Ditch lights on hood or mirror.. Those Rally lights on the hood like in Subarus and Porsches So I can have a better idea of which kind to actually buy..

[@2005GLI]

I have the apollo 850 and 851 hid's for my truck. Love them.

[@chiboreache]

lol ! i was amazed how deep the topic was covered on a "just" plain simple shop channel =)

[@neerajthakur8011]

Im very new to this and try to look up for some info but still couldnt find , can you pls explain what the different between led daylighter and slimlite Led in term of function and usage .. thank you

[@michaelanthony4270]

Bro great job with the Vids..... big supporter of KC and long time owner.... would like to get the old school covers for the new lights.....

[@michaelanthony4270]

@@kchilites yes I love the old school look I still have a Dozen or so lights some with the stretchy yellow and black covers and some with black and yellow covers

[@ashoksinghnegi5415]

Hello there, if possible for you please upload the video on your KZbin channel showing different types of headlights like hs1 h1, h3, h4 etc etc, and when we are suppose to use such types of headlights on our vehicles, thanks ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@janakmattai1858]

How do you pull a part blaze international 1920 halogen sport light

[@dadtechmech]

nice sharing and tutorial in HID

[@OverlandPlus]

Can you post the link to the round LED light (black) in this video?

[@DDFJ1230]

Why not make an LED option that is closer in color temp to halogen? Less glare and better in fog/bad weather.

[@DDFJ1230]

@@kchilites Understood. Thanks for the answer!

[@SofaKingTouge]

The reason leds are so white is because as you bring the color down it produces less light. You lose half the light bringing it down to yellow. I don't know the physics behind it but I find they still hurt my eyes even at a lower color temperature. I had Amber diode dynamics stage 6 and they still hurt.

[@missingremote4388]

My light are all different color spectrum. But it's all good. OEM halogen Hi/low plus HID fog light/white!

[@panchalhardik4118]

Great work 🔥

[@shawnriddle3018]

What model, size is the black led light in your video? I want to order some.

[@yesh3279]

Would’ve love to see a comparo of the three different lights, as far as distance and beam concentration goes. I used to run Cibie Super Oscars with 200 W Halo’s each. Think they called it a pencil beam. never had issues with them drawing this kind of current.

[@ChuckNorris-vz6lk]

“When you see light from LEDs, you are seeing a bunch of photons” I guess from the other lights, T-Rexes come out?

[@prizzom]

Do halogens get hot enough to melt ice build up on the lens?

[@240mains]

i am gonna say Yes . i just got some H3 130 watt halogens . the package says 200C which is 392 F . that is some HOT bulb glass . the Front lens has lots of heat radiating off of it too . The Front lens might not be at 392 F , i can really feel the heat . recently i have read about Halogen ovens for food cooking . halogen bulbs get HOT . halogens also emit substanital UV radiation .

[@johnny_killinitnew6672]

A comparison would of been great at night

[@texasRoofDoctor]

Great explanation

[@missingremote4388]

Saved the best for last!

[@davebarron5939]

Excellent video, appreciate the education.

[@Barefoot-Bob]

which lights have lowest amp draw for use in a side x side ?

[@seniorxj2931]

Where can I find the KC light in the middle with the black tinted reflector?

[@robertfreddielain9473]

Very good video. Dose a good job of explaining the difference in the types of lights. I have been using KC lights on my trucks and cars since 1972. I have ridden in vehicles with other brands, non are as good as KC.

[@OverlandPlus]

The LED light you have on display (starting at 1:00) is this the 6 inch daylighter? If so what is the part number, I cannot seem to find daylighter on kc website with black lens like here. Great video by the way - thanks.

[@OverlandPlus]

KC this is the second time i comment to ask the same question, I am still in search for these lights and even called KC, the rep sad you do not make daylighers with black lens but i see it here. so please help!!!!

[@dant3113]

I want to mount 6 led lights on my 2008 tacoma. Total watts of the lights add up to 396 I'm using two wiring kits each with 40amp relays. Do you think it will be ok to run on arock battery and alternator with no problem ?

[@ekspatvos6264]

AWESOME video. Thank you very much for sharing this knowledge.

[@yuvaclub6725]

What is best light for car sir

[@suemcglinchey1042]

Good stuff! Thanks for the help!

[@codprawn]

How many lumens did the old KC daylighters 150W sealed beam units produce?

[@BryanG830]

My car has halogen lights bulbs. Can they easily be switched to HID

[@johnbehneman1546]

Great video and a great education. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@WeOutHere]

Is power efficiency really a factor when choosing? Isnt the electricity in a car essentially “free”?

[@WeOutHere]

KC HiLiTES makes sense, thanks!

[@Jeep.Generation]

Great informative video. I cant wait for the next one.

[@Jeep.Generation]

@@kchilites Sounds exciting! :)

[@kudamuyun3173]

Great explanation.! Thank you for sharing knowledges, GBU 🙏

[@joseluisrosales9226]

Thanks for the video! It was very informative.

[@stinkyfj60]

Halogens FTW!

[@stinkyfj60]

@@kchilites I'm starting a slow build on a vehicle in Africa for overlanding. I'm want to address lights and after looking and reading, I really can't get past my love of the KC Daylighter in 100w (or even 130w) in a spread beam. Great color, puts light exactly where I need it for the speeds I travel... And they're just damn cool. Thanks for the vids!

[@-Yeti-]

Yes great for snow so u wont be blind. Led are white and snow are blind= dangerous.

[@elsondeSaantana123d]

hello alright i wanted to know what the tesla lamp is

[@tonymoreordi1]

Great video

[@muzaffardany6790]

Great information !

[@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305]

My problem is the Halogen lights look better.. no one makes LED offroad lights that look like a kc light from the 70s.. chromed. Leds all have like 20 leds in the housing and make it look weird to me. And the housing isnt stylish for a classy truck. So i go halogen

[@90pontiac]

I like my 8 daylighters on my 87 k10 giving the classic look . Altho Is there any way to change out the current halogen bulbs just for led bulbs instead of buying another set of 6" lights? That could get expensive fast..

[@missingremote4388]

Probably can't aim a LED bulb inside of the halogen lamp, KC off-road.

[@sangaytenzin7171]

Wch light is brightness

[@nicholasschwarz7663]

I work for the dot and operate a snowplow during the winter and usually the night shift by choice. The state truck l drive, a 2019 Peterbilt, has an led spot light mounted on the right mirror with a cab control. A big issue with using the spotlight in the snow is, depending on how hard it’s snowing, that spotlight can be useless in five minutes because gets caked with ice. I’m looking to get auxiliary driving lights for my 95 Ford F-150, my main commuter vehicle in the winter and l don’t want that issue. A couple of times a month while on the night shift, l’ll come across wild horses on or near the highway and l barely see them with the stock headlights which lenses are yellowed and tarnished. Any useful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[@stevemckibben1201]

i do quite a few runs up on our mountains and yellow 2500/3k luminosity halogens help when heavy snow is coming down . led pods are useless most of the time

[@Марусякожаева]

It works great and is easy to operate

[@rromero1091]

great video

[@sammyt.brocato4588]

Great info, thank you!

[@brm1853]

Hello everyone Please Advise I have a car and I need hight brightness lights so kindly help HID or LED? Which one more brightening? (now in my car only Halogen lights)

[@missingremote4388]

Stay with halogen: I use and recommend, "PIAA halogen" -PIAA Xtreme White = 4150 degrees Kelvin w/ 65watt halogen bulb. -PIAA Xtreme White HYBRID = 3900 Kelvin w/ 51watt bulb HI and/or Low beam available on internet order only. I use them in my cars stock headlights. And also in my Suburban 4x4

[@brm1853]

@@missingremote4388 Thank You!

[@vdzrussell]

Halogen has the same light output than LED? I guess if ur using only one little 3watt LED.

[@ninja9800]

Short video and great explain

[@bartfdeubcvbuuexvio7289]

So what light should I buy?

[@sumalsebastian]

jus the thing I was looking for.

[@Reddylion]

NICE

[@rahmanaridho]

Halogen : best light to afford LED : best light to run at long period of time HID : best light output but only at momentary event (because it always new and definitely never has any problems on it yet)

[@GV-24]

HID lights for vehicles to buy link

[@johncrosby8054]

I had kissy day letter 150 W you watch spot balls oh my God those are crazy insane I'd like the original . Not new just my thought

[@kungfucommando1642]

He said “HID” and “reasonable cost”. LMAO!

[@tony91980]

Sounds like your speaking into an empty can

[@gilles192]

@@kchilites way better

[@dabinbin22]

LED sucks when you are on a wide road. The light will be scattered and I can't see what's ahead, compared to halogen where it will be scattered too but the light will still be seen. Hahaha I hope you understand that.

[@dabinbin22]

Also on rainy days, you can barely see the light produced by LED.

[@dabinbin22]

@@kchilites let me try that. 👍

[@DaMastaSkullFox]

The bar graphic to demonstrate different characteristics of each one is pretty bad....

[@user-xp3vd9ux5t]

👍

[@cuh720]

I like them but they expensive

[@bestamerica]

' HID is a much better brightest diamond white daylight... no wonder why this man use a cap on the head

[@sgtrock68]

Dude. I'm an electrician and I totally stopped listening when you said electron. Bright, not bright, or WAY bright, that's all I'm looking for.

[@noahgaray7923]

Glad I decided to become a civil engineer than stick with being an apprentice electrician.

[@shootinbruin3614]

"I'm an electrician but I don't have the attention span required for a 10 minute video"

[@waygee1234]

Do people really need a physics lesson to decide what friggin LIGHTS TO USE? DAMN

[@mikecannon5719]

Is dude wearing K/C underwear as well?

[@ridamahmoud6816]

7:40

[@BryinWillis-e8g]

Lap

[@mikecannon5719]

STOP SAYING ,"SUPER" all the dam time!

[@uknownunknown9051]

To much talking just show us

[@xgamerbih]

tracy Russell it never hurts to learn something new.

[@noflyzone-01001]

Man, wtf is a foton

[@240mains]

Photon

[@kulturamoto3302]

Haha "affordable"

[@Taras-Nabad]

Great Video.