What PADI courses I Hate Teaching (Instructor ranks diving courses)

Another ranking video of my favourite PADI scuba diving courses to teach as a diving instructor of 10 years!
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[@divemasterdavid595]

PADI (Put Another Dollar In) cracks me up with all their specialties. NAUI Instructor here. So many of the specialties are included in our courses. I personally feel like as an instructor i will not pass somebody who lacks buoyancy or navigation etc. That being said I will take as much time as my student needs to make sure they get it. That is definitely one of the perks of being an independent instructor and shop owner.

[@OceanPancake]

That's a really good standard to have and be able to stand behind your decisions. How long have you been an instructor / shop owner

[@divemasterdavid595]

@@OceanPancake instructor for almost 2 years and just started my shop.

[@bartomiejbartnicki1134]

OWD is the hardest. During other curses you have certificated divers, so in case of emergency situation with one of students you can focus on him/her and rest of group will surface safety. I loved teach Rescue and Side Mount, during this curses you can give a lot of tips, perform more complicated skills exercise and encourage discussion on non-obvious topics. I hate (and do not train) curses that don't really teach new skills: underwater Fish Identification, Underwater Naturalist, Coral Reef Conservation.

[@OceanPancake]

That's a good point. But somehow I find open waters were the most conscious and or likely to listen to you. Sometimes the more experienced divers would simply do whatever they wanted!

[@psarmstr]

@@OceanPancake Yeah, AOW or Rescue with someone who learned to kneel in the sand, never really figured out buoyancy properly and hasn't really got any interest in doing anything more than ticking a box can be rough.

[@OceanPancake]

@@psarmstr yeah, at that point they should definitely have it under control. Just drives me nuts where divers are happy bouncing off the coral like a yoyo

[@gabrielex]

I wouldn't be so sure about that, especially since nowadays it's quite common having "certified" divers that got their OWD in 3-5 days at some vacation site and didn't learn a thing, and the worst thing is that they think to know stuff but they would never be able to manage even the most basic issue, let's not even talk about emergencies. This is something specific of PADI that year after year has always been more focused in making more money and certifying more divers than about safety and actually teaching things, sadly other agencies are slowly moving in the same direction. Diving certifications shouldn't be given away in a rush and like candies.

[@OceanPancake]

@@gabrielex I definitely agree. But that's why pressures from dive shops can be truly detrimental to the quality of certified areas.

[@natasfresas]

Very interesting, great video

[@OceanPancake]

I'm glad you liked it!!! Let me know your thoughts :)

[@LuisGrolez]

Agree with rescue, next i wanna learn: Rebreather, then Cave 🤪

[@OceanPancake]

I definitely have cave on the bucketlist

[@ewaz6196]

I really need to get my PADI "Boat Diver" specialty.....after 26 years of diving, I still feel so ill-equipped at making dives from a boat. I could really use a class. ;-)

[@OceanPancake]

Yeah? Where have you done most of your diving?

[@marcwanagas1234]

PADI AOW seems like a money maker more than advanced diving. There’s a reason SSI has their AOW as actually doing specialties and more than 4 dives.

[@OceanPancake]

How long is SSI s course? I do really like the advanced course as an extension of the open water!

[@Raybrienza]

@@OceanPancake I'm an SSI Instructor of 38 years. The SSI Advanced Diver is any 4 specialties and 24 dives, (you are automatically awarded it once you get the requirements) And the Dive Master rating is the Advanced Diver + The Stress & Rescue class and a total of 50 dives. As far as how long is the SSI Advanced Diver is depends on the specialty you choose. Some of the specialties run 3 - 4, some require dives some do not, some require pool some do not. Correction Master Diver ------ Not Dive Master ... Thank you @somethingsomethingscuba

[@bartomiejbartnicki1134]

@@Raybrienza In my federation (ASTD) on AOWD we have one night, one navigation, one 30m deep and one at the discretion of the instructor dives. IMO I can teach everything beside navigation in this time. I show basic on navigation and let people try them self to play with compass after AOWD. My students know that the can always come back to me after certification and ask additional questions. Real navigation the learn during trips, when they have unknown divespot. IMO make squares on compass is just exercise, in real life we more use natural navigation and compass just confirm us that we dive in correct direction.

[@marcwanagas1234]

@@OceanPancakethe SSI Advanced Open Water is 4 specialty courses (typ 8-16 dives) + 24 logged dives. The SSI Advanced Adventurer course is 5 dives and can follow OW, but it is explicitly a trial program for exploring specialties after OW. It is not certifying a diver or a requirement for continuing education beyond that point.

[@albertendler2038]

SSI AOW can be earned with 4 Ecology ( read dry courses) and just 24 logged dives. It's all about what you put into it. PADI can be tough or easy AOW and so can SSI.

[@Otinediving]

I love teaching CCR and Technical courses :) Sure the expression of a DSD or OWD student wenn they get into the water first time and seeing them improving rapidly within a dive is great. For me its more about how to bring a diver who has already a few hundret dives into a completly new section of diving. Sadly most instructors are not teaching essentials skills. Essentials skills I mean like finning techniques: Holding position, backkick, turning, stabilisation; or trimm: there are a lot of medical reasons why you should stay horizontal especially while in deco or surfacing. Learning and explaining that to people and helping them improving from their level to a techical diver level is great to see and I love it :) Could do it every day.

[@OceanPancake]

I would love to come learn from you!! That sounds absolutely fascinating. I had to idea about staying horizontal for deco, but it does make sense!

[@Otinediving]

@@OceanPancake its not only deco it also effects you at a safety stop or normal accent as well, its a matter of "off breathing" gas thats what your lungs do, but in a vertical position you are using only little of your lungs capacity, as soon as you are horizontal you are using your whole lung and its easier for your body to off gas. What love to teach you and learn from you as well, thing is I am quite far away :D I am living in Austria^^ thats the country with no kangoroos but alps/mountains :D

[@benheckendorn2696]

They loved it, 90% because of you, 10% because diving is fantastic. I know your videos, made with so much love, so I could imagine to dive with you must be incredible. For those who don't get chance, to dive with you, they may would have a huge benefit, if you could do a Video about nitrox and the physics, it wouldn't replace the curse, but I believe it would still help. Thanks for sharing your experiance with us. Thanks for being here! 👍🫶

[@OceanPancake]

Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment and provide feedback

[@griffini19]

PADI will offer any course that might make ‘em a buck. 20’ depth specialty course, Snorkel style (advanced). There are specialty courses with real importance but hey…

[@OceanPancake]

I feel as an instructor it's our job to educate the students and guide them towards the courses that will best help them be the safest diver possible

[@roba6557]

Do you do technical diving? Are you planning on it?

[@OceanPancake]

Not yet. It's always been a bit out of my budget and I am surrounded by easy great barrier reef dives!

[@OceanPancake]

What technical diving have you done?

[@roba6557]

@@OceanPancake I haven’t lol:) I am working on advanced open water now and I am super hooked on diving. My goal is cave diving but we will see how far I get. Just seems like you are a good diver and I was curious:)

[@Raybrienza]

Good video. As I replied to another poster -- I'm an SSI instructor of 38 years. I have a list of classes that I dislike to teach. Some I love to teach, some I'm ok with. Some classes we as an industry should not have to teach Bouyancy being one of them (we suck with the fast food diving mentality). Where did you get chart where you moved the classes around?

[@OceanPancake]

If you just Google ranking tier list!

[@onestar76]

I love to teach the Sidemount, Enriched Air and Deep Diver courses, but that might be because I'm also a technical instructor :). Rescue is fun also especially if you have a couple of students, you get to create some nice scenarios. Wreck is also one I really like to teach The last couple of years I had a hard time selling the PADI AOW course as I feel that is a bit of a "we want your money course", I'd rather teach 5 specialties and create a really advanced diver.

[@OceanPancake]

That's an interesting take! So after open water you recommend five separate specialties rather than the advanced? Where do you teach? Would be so good to have the opportunity of long term customers that can really grow with you!

[@onestar76]

@@OceanPancake I teach in The Netherlands so very few courses I teach are to people who are on holiday and decide to take a course. So that is a luxury I have, drawback is it is in the Netherlands 😝 so fresh and colder waters at times murky depending on the location and season. That being said we have some longtime customers which we taught from OW till RD or even DM, which is great to see people grow after their initial experience.

[@HellrazorDogsnDives]

Great Video Kat! OMG you have a degree in astrophysics? ... omg... fkin awesome. You have a solid wide knowledge base and you're excited about being smart! I'm a total nerd.... you're a nerd too!!!! that's a compliment. well done! I'll be meeting my diver buddy to asia soon to dive again soon. Would be so cool to dive with you. adorable, nerd, smart, excited diver. awesome. Cheers!

[@OceanPancake]

Oh I'm a massive nerd. My bachelor's degree is in physics and I focused on astrophysics and quantum physics. I absolutely loved it, but just didn't want a career staring at a screen all day :)

[@HellrazorDogsnDives]

@@OceanPancake ok stop, now I have a crush on you 😂 lol

[@psarmstr]

You don't have to go to the US to do sidemount. I teach sidemount in Bundaberg, QLD. Come learn with me! 🙂

[@OceanPancake]

Do you guys provide all the additional equipment? I still just have the standard hydros!

[@psarmstr]

@@OceanPancake Yes, training always includes all equipment. XDeep Rec BCD, Shearwater Peregrine TX computer, Origin/RK3/EX1 fins and anything else that might be needed. I see pushing a student to invest thousands in equipment when they might not even enjoy the sport as a bad business practice.

[@carlmeade1667]

Not an instructor so can't comment on how enjoyable they are to teach. I got a little confused by the continuity error, at 7:00 your screen showed rescue diver and underwater naturalist were already rated but you hadn't mentioned them, got me rewinding to see how I missed them only to find they weren't mentioned until later. Isn't Master Scuba Diver a recognition award rather than a diving course? You have to do a number of courses, but you are ranking them on the rest of the video, then (providing you have the minimum of dives) you can pay for an extra card to be recognised as a masterscuba diver.

[@OceanPancake]

Sorry!! I had some issues with screen recording so must have made a mistake in editing. Sorry! Which have been your favourite to learn? Yes master scuba diver is the recognition of 5+ specialties. Sometimes they do sell this as one a course all together