What Pull Through Sharpeners ACTUALLY Do to Your Knifes Edge & Why You SHOULDNT Use Them

[@D00MTR33]

Youre a braver man than me, running a sprint pm2 and sebenza through a pull through sharpener. It hurt my soul, im going to go hug my knife case to let them know its ok and I'd never do that. Great video and hopefully people will learn from your sacrifice. I salute you.

[@NeevesKnives]

Yeah it wasn't easy, but I did it prepared to completely reprofile them, I wanted to get the point across and imo if it can't sharpen even s35 well then what good is it

[@robsinquefield9260]

Man you literally broke everything down better than I've ever seen anyone do about sharpening! This was a great and very informative video awesome job!

[@NeevesKnives]

Thank yiu

[@Tatterdsoul]

Man I love these public service ones Brother. Love your edits. Comedy was very well done. I enjoy y’all mixing in up n getting creative. Talent… Thank.

[@joeg5023]

It hurt my soul when u put those knives through the sharpener

[@-tzadakim-7805]

He knew what he was doing when he put those knives through it 😂 did it just to mess with us

[@tekhen-px9wl]

All for science.

[@grahamcairns2249]

As a ginger.... what's a soul?

[@derrikjasper1283]

I agree completely when that CRK came out my heart sank 😢

[@maxwellmortimermontoure7274]

Hurt my teeth for some reason. Like nails on a chalkboard

[@EDCandLace]

I've been PREACHING THIS FOR YEARS. A pull thru is not "sharpening " a knife. Literally all its doing is stripping off metal to a shape leaving nothing more then a wire edge that fails as soon as you cut anything. There is no micro serrations in the edge because as you said the scratches are running the wrong way.

[@bmw9616]

They get a knife more than sharp enough for 99% of people. If they didn't work, they wouldn't be used. Anyone that uses stones, plates or systems is in the 1% and they're just sharpening for fun, not function. That edge they spend 40 minutes working won't look like that after a few uses. Most people that own knife collections and sharpen them to hair whittling don't use the vast majority of their knives, it's a hobby.

[@ThaitopYT]

@@bmw9616 Source: Trust me bro

[@shawnpatrick1877]

@@ThaitopYT He's not asking you to trust HIM, dummy, he's pointing out that they're so popular and have been in use for so long, that you're trusting hundreds of thousands of people, or you can go by what one KZbinr says. They're perfectly fine for old kitchen knives and blades you actually use for hard work. I wouldn't use the carbide unless it's a hopeless case anyway, but the ceramic rods are little different from what millions of people use to touch up or hone their blades every day, from chefs to serious knife enthusiasts. People even use ceramic mugs for this purpose, the ceramic sides on pull-throughs are perfectly fine.

[@danielduvall4154]

I was thinking about that exact scene when you hit that pull through sharpener 😂😂

[@EastCoastMan603]

Great breakdown man. Thank you team J&K

[@HellGatefr2]

For those with headphones, if you unplug the jack slightly, there is a good chance that you will get mono sound, it's then very bearable. This vidéo is extremely well explained !

[@Rich_EDC]

Pull thru sharpeners like this is like raw dogging. It may get the job done kinda at that point in time but the damage done is forever

[@EDCandLace]

Guys this also applies to carbide bar sharpeners equally as well... like "Sharpensbest" for the love of God do not ever run a piece of carbide down your edges.... if you can't sharpen your selves that's what people like my self are for...

[@LastBastian]

Used these decades ago before I learned how to sharpen properly. Which is the problem, most people don't know how to properly sharpen a knife free hand on a stone. So for those people, a pull through is better than nothing.

[@DrDrewdude]

I’m using a pull through sharpener while watching this. 😘

[@Pch100]

Hi Jerad, do you have a link to the microscope. This video was painful to watch 😱

[@Cid_1]

My left ear really enjoyed that intro 😆 No worries at all, can still hear everything fine. Is the RØDE Wireless Go microphone set to Split or Merged? I would just set the microphone to Merged as long as you are inside where there isn't a lot of noise so it records in stereo. That way you don't have to mess around that much to Balance the Split mode in editing from the left and right channels or do the recovery in worst case scenario.

[@NeevesKnives]

I'm not sure, it must be set to one side I guess for each mix, guess I need to go into the app and figure it out thank you

[@Cid_1]

@@NeevesKnives No worries at all. It can sometimes be a little pain to set up any new audio equipment. Even the "plug and go" USB microphones (if one is an audio snob) take some tweaking by running them through audio software like Audacity, Adobe Audition, or any DAW (digital audio workstation) before importing the audio into the Video workstation/editing software. My biggest advice will be to just do some quick 10-30 second tests to make sure the microphone/s are set up the way you want them, save the profiles and they "should" be ready to go. If there is anything you need DM or Email me. And I'll jump on Discord or Zoom or whatever. I bet you have everything figured out in no time, could have just been that they unsynced for some reason when the mic & receiver/transmitter turned on. Audio issues happen to everyone. Take care Kara, and Jerad. Keep up the amazing content

[@THEBLADEBUFFET]

I flinched when he put the PM2 and the CRK thru that piece of crap. Jared you could of just used a Boker Kalashnikov or something, thats what i buy people after they lose a Spyderco i give them.

[@Matthew.envagyok]

good video 😀

[@Wlfpk_EDC]

Awesome video man!

[@davidnelson4340]

You are getting a lot better at KZbin videos. Keep up the good work.

[@NeevesKnives]

Thank you

[@4NdR3_K]

I often comment on this. Not just better, but better than everybody else 😀 - Kara’s skills.

[@Killer_Space_2726-GCP]

So, I have a kitchen pull through sharpener from Ikea that has ceramic rollers of varying grit. I examined the pattern, and it is a lot more vertical than what you have shown here. I still prefer to hand sharpen, but in a pinch I use the pull through. Edit: I use it for kitchen knives, not my nice knives!

[@NeevesKnives]

Yeah as I said in video if it's super cheap kitchen knives then no big deal I guess, I personally just properly sharpen everything and hone when needed which can keep a knife sharp a long time. Your edge lasts like 10× as long with a proper edge

[@Killer_Space_2726-GCP]

@@NeevesKnives I need to sit down and sharpen all my knives again, I'll put that on my to do list

[@AndresMartinez-js1hf]

Using those sharpeners on a CRK Sebenza or another high end knife should be considered a crime

[@kcormo6476]

Great video! i’ve been trying to convince my father to stop using a pull-through sharpener on all his kitchen knives, maybe this video will help, lol

[@Alicordparacord]

This was a great video with very useful information. Loved the quality of it too. Thank you for showing why ppl should not use a pull through. Also how long did it take you to fix the edges?

[@jongurr2811]

I was sold one of those sharpeners at a sporting goods store once. It ate my blade, literally.

[@toddcarr.]

Great vid showing how these pull through sharpeners actually damage your knives. They do make a great ferro rod scraper (the carbide ones) but that's about it. A micro serrated edge is the best at getting the most out of any type of knife steel and making it last as long as possible. Thanks for the great vid Jerad and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable

[@bobdiekema5454]

My soul screams in pain!

[@macgyverbryan1377]

Not a Chris Reeve!

[@jamesm9560]

Sponsored by Work Sharp

[@NeevesKnives]

No Not at all I've recommended the field sharpener for 2 years for this purpose, if something came out that was better I'd also rec it

[@paulbosley6448]

Even if it was, it would still be good advice. I'm definitely not sponsored by anyone but I still have one in my truck,one in my toolbox and one at work. As far as portable hand held systems go it's pretty much the best.

[@jamesm9560]

@@NeevesKnives ahhhh I'm just jackn with ya, bro! Thumbs up.

[@HellGatefr2]

@@NeevesKnives As long as you don't get sponsored by pull-through makers...

[@thiago.assumpcao]

Not gonna lie, K390 on pull through sharpener was painful to watch. Ribbed honing rod and pull through are really bad.

[@trekfortruth2841]

Excellent video...your diagrams and explanations are really clear and concise

[@paulyoder865]

This was quite helpful seeing it magnified etc. Thanks. Seems to me like I should save the carbide sharpener for repairing an edge and use a diamond rod or stone to sharpen. Looks like a dollar store sharpening stone would be better for sharpening than carbide.

[@NeevesKnives]

Yes I would say pretty much avoid them unless it's a desperate situation,

[@deandufresne3671]

The sharpener wasn’t used properly. I would suggest following the instructions first.

[@NeevesKnives]

😆 I think I broke everything down extremely well in great detail, you're more than happy to use them on what ever you want I personally prefer quality edges

[@WhiteTrashTennessee]

​@@NeevesKnivesDo they make your sharpeners in pride flag colors?

[@NeevesKnives]

@@WhiteTrashTennessee no sorry to disappoint

[@patrickgorham4269]

Ok, like learning to sharpen on a stone which by the way I am no good at, I have a good friend that's insane at it, it's a learned technique, for one thing you have to use the right angle I mean no DISRESPECT because I love your videos but you're not. When you have a dull edge you run it through the carbide a few times and depending on how bad it is is how much pressure you put on the blade, more pressure at first then getting lighter and lighter and like a flat stone has to be consistently straight and down, don't over do it get it to where you can feel the edge grab the skin on your fingers then do the same process through the ceramic. If you're laying the sharpener on the table like in the video you don't ever point the knife tip up and dragging down but tip down dragging up and even then it still has to be the right angle not just any angle. I don't lay mine on the table but just in the hand, I use the little Lanski poket sharpener with the diamond rod, the one you're using is trash, I have several different kinds and the Lanski is the best I've found and have had MANY of them. When I'm sharpening I'll start by dragging the kinfe through and getting lighter then on final passes I drag the sharpener under the blade barely touching it. Now don't get me wrong I understand your point completely with the scratch pattern BUT I don't have to have mine whitleing hair sharp but I can get a single pass hair shaving with the Lanski, also you can test it on a styrofoam cup, yeah sounds strange but take a simi Sharp knife and see if it'll filette the the styrofoam thin enough to see through with ease, that tells me it's sharp enough, if you want it sharper then strop it, I use mother's cheap aluminum polish which works VERY WELL. The Lanski will get CPM 154, 14c28n, S35vn, 440c, D2, but especially 154 and 14c CRASY SHARP for me at least and I have a few Benchmades, ZT's that I use it on, I've had the Spyderco Sharp Maker, watched the videos of a guy dulling a Spyderco with it then getting it hair whiteling sharp, I tried and tried and tried to no avail, I'm just no good with it, but I am pretty good with the Lanski, gave it to my friend, wish I was good with it but nope and I spent countless hrs trying. One thing though it doesn't do Spyderco S30v very well, sometimes I can get it but that steel is VERY TOUCHY with a pull through. Some steels are different, some will do better with just the carbide which by the way I try not to use much because it does take away the steel much faster and try to only use the carbide to get any nicks in the blade out and maintain my blades with the ceramic, yes I use it one my Benchmades, Bedlam which by the way it was used to skin three HOGS after sharpening it with the Lanski with ZERO PROBLEMS, yes I was hesitant but pored some alcohol on it afterwards and it was fine, by the way I actually use my knives unlike some that just store them away till they want to PET THEM LoL and I 80-90 percent of the time get my higher end knives no not art knives because I will not spend that kind of money, I get them at pawn shops flea markets like where I got the Bedlam and a Spyderco Matriarch which I've lost in a package deal for are you ready for this,,,,$175, NEVER used. Use the Lanski on my ZT's 0452, 0462, all with ZERO problems, MAYBE some of you want to cringe and cry and whine about it, sorry but it does work and like I said I understand the scratch pattern part of it, I wish that I had the feel for it on a stone but I don't, you have countless years of experience with the flat stone and are a master at it, I'm not but I feal like you've given the pull through a bad rap, for one thing you're doing it completely wrong and im positive if you saw me sharpen on a flat stone you'd tell me the same thing, I'm 55 years old and don't really have the time ir the will to spend that kind of time learning, I'm a do what works and not spend a lot of money doing it kind of guy, now I can get a scraper blade or a utility blade sharper than out of the package with a pocket dual grit flat diamond pocket sharpener because I can feel the wider edge one the it as I carry both every day, I've been doing flooring for 32 years so I know my way around a blade just a little, I have to sharpen on the run so to speak. Hey I really respect your master sharpening skills and your awesome videos, wish I had your skills but I just wanted to comment, they're not as bad as you make them sound, some are better than others like I said the one you're using might be good to just get so so edge but like any other stones or sharpening systems THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, probably due to the angle. For a on the go pull through sharpener so far the Lanski is the best I've found and NO I don't work for them but when I find an awesome product I'll put it out there. Sorry this is so long but it needed explaining, stay safe and God bless.

[@johncollinsgrove1750]

What's you thought of using only the ceramic "fine" side as a hone instead of a honing rod. Basically a touch up in-between sharpenings.

[@karasong7701]

This hurts my soul

[@codygreen2804]

all i can hear was the " der der der" and Steve Corell parts. oh and faint background music. Either way, great info, love everything you do! Keep it up!

[@breezeratchford6527]

But the guy at the county fair told me these are like the best sharpeners and I shouldn't believe what I see on the old interwebs. Appears you should've listed to Mr. Scott no NO Nooo NOOOOOOO

[@jimbeaux89]

I’ve wasted one too many decent knives on these pull through sharpeners.. 🤦‍♂️

[@fredp1983]

Im so curious what an argument between Jerad and Sharpens Best Guy would look like...

[@brad6817]

Don't know if it's just me, but I can only hear through my left headphone

[@NeevesKnives]

Really? I'm sorry maybe my mic has a bad setting thank you I will look into it immediately

[@strikenryken]

Same here, left only. Still a great video, thanks for the education!

[@brad6817]

@@strikenryken it was unwatchable for me.

[@gregmccarter2176]

I learned how to sharpen knives many yearw ago..i learned on whet stones. I love my smith diamond hone..i repair expensive knives for people, who used what i call knife killers..once you learn free hand you will enjoy sharpening

[@joshuagibson2520]

"Steel is harder than the carbide". No. Sorry man. If that was the case HSS tooling would still be widely used in mfg and not carbide.

[@patrickr4538]

This is an awesome video! Well explained and entertaining. Well done, Jerad!

[@RockyMountainBlades]

I had some dude try to tell me that pull through sharpeners were better than stones or precision sharpening rigs. that guy was so annoying.

[@Frost-1209]

A pull through sharpeners is not the problem. That particular pull through sharpener is the problem.

[@michaeldohn1352]

Isn't alot of factory edges abit concave due to them being sharpened on wheels, compared to the flat to convex you get from a flat stone (convex is for freehanded)

[@amitzdullnicker2k]

I knew that those sharpeners should to be avoided, but never exactly why. Now I do. Thank you very much! 👍🏻

[@Nick-lm5lz]

Couple of old hickory butcher knives are giving me a hard time getting them sharp. I don't have the patience for it

[@andyhayward1261]

Omg lol watched the first 5 mins with one headphone in and was wondering why you made a video where you were talking with no sound lol I could only hear the music and the voices in some of the clips

[@111wash]

Please HELP, I just got a Brad and Taylor pull through sharpener. Is that okay

[@jbarizonaa]

How about a block sharpener, mine makes my knives shaving sharp

[@macgyverbryan1377]

I'm here for all the Nooooooooooooooo! In the comments. Also after much use of this knife torture device it makes any nicks into deep valleys.

[@patrickgorham4269]

Ok sorry,,, you used the ceramic just the wrong technique

[@mohdzaudikhasni8829]

This sharpener the best in the world for sharpen shirogorov and rockstead knife!

[@h73286]

Toughest video that I have ever seen, i was crying trough all the video since minute 5 😢

[@Skyzw2]

I only use my pull through sharpeners on my cheap gas station knives

[@RICH21716]

Great video ... the best explanation I've seen for not using these sharpeners

[@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135]

When I was growing up and learning to sharpen, that's what I was using.

[@Tito31120]

Great video, your voice only coming from the left side

[@aronVincze]

Is the Victorinox dual sharpener also good

[@tacticalcenter8658]

The audio is all messed up. But it still works.

[@JACOPO.OFFICIEL]

So the only sharpeners are the stones or belt sanders ??

[@adrianjagmag]

Could you make the audio stereo next time? Please?

[@h73286]

I could hear those knife crying

[@randyescaner]

Is the pro edge made by raythesharpener okay to use or is it just as bad as the others

[@robthompson8285]

So true. Should only be used in an apocalypse condition while zombies are bearing down on you.

[@Rollshambo]

Damn you Jerad you killed me when you pulled that CRK through that cheap pocket sharpener, stop the abuse brother I cant take it anymore , you broke it down perfectly though, appreciate you willing to play with peoples emotions for the sake of science 😁😭

[@MY-T-SHARP666]

Nice video, those things are horrible

[@MilesPhish]

He’s talking to my left ear the whole time :(

[@DustinLikesJiujitsu]

Have you seen Sharpens Best sharpener?

[@GOLD_FEVER]

My left ear enjoyed this video!

[@sethprice241]

Hahaha I used to laugh my ass off at the fng's in the kitchen trying to sharpen their knives with those things.😄😃 6,7,8, pulls haha.. Wondering why it won't sharpen up. Had me rolling.😄😅😆😂 Great Show Bro.

[@patrickgorham4269]

Didn't even use the fine ceramic

[@Ward_918]

F N great vid. I’m learning

[@DavidGS66]

What about Speedy Sharp?

[@kraftzion]

You should make horror films in your spare time😅. Great video!

[@NeevesKnives]

i just might

[@denizwieteck]

crazy thing is I got almost the exact same thing as a gift from a sharpening supplier 😂

[@NeevesKnives]

😆

[@jons2447]

Hello, Jerad & Kara; Yeah, these things have limited utility at best. One thing they are good for is sharpening an axe or hatchet but not as a regular thing. Only when you are in a pinch & need to very quickly "tough up" the edge. Even then it is not a 'proper' edge for a chopping tool. They work fair on cheap chinese stainless pairing knives & such. Some 'knives' have very poor steel & those are the ones to use on pull-through sharpeners. I bought a couple, the ceramic rods are 'ok' for touching up properly sharpened edges. I use a few Scandi ground knives for wood work & carving. Usually a Scandi grind will be *not* be properly 'sharpened' w/ a 'pull-through'. The angle is all wrong for Scandis & many other knives. BTW, I think you should check out 'sword sharpening' techniques. You may be surprised by the ancient sword sharpening. Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!

[@anstef1485]

Damn! and re-Damn! Thank you for for the "edge-ucation" one of the best videos I have seen on this topic and yes! I have than Worksharp sharpener (as well as the Smith crappy quick pull throughs...).

[@TheFriendlyamoeba]

Can someone explain to me why a microbevel from a ceramic rod is good but one from a pull through is bad? I honestly don't know any of this stuff I'm totally new to this world

[@NeevesKnives]

It's because of the teeth they are ripped off with pull through I explain it in this video, a Ceramic can add the micro serrations a pull through tears them off

[@TheFriendlyamoeba]

@@NeevesKnives thank you

[@qazz6209]

I stopped using pull throughs about 2 years ago, I bought a full set of shapton ceramic stones expensive but I definitely don't regret it, really isn't that hard to learn how to do took me a week or so till I was able to get a mirror edge on kitchen knifes and it's infinitly sharper than a pull through. Definitely a skill worth learning it saves money in the long run. Highly recommend learning how do it its a satisfying to take something as dull as a butter knife an turn it into a razror sharp edge you could shave with, but I'd stay away from aluminium oxide whetstone / soak stones they are very very soft they are cheap which may be appealing for a beginner, but it's the opposite they are very hard to use with them being soft use to much pressure you will round the edge also need to constantly keep leveling them out after every few uses, spend extra and get ceramic like shaptons or diamond DMT are good.

[@christianalvarado9946]

You know, I wish I had seen this before selling a couple of budget knives I had unfortunately used pull-through sharpeners, before learning how a simple sharpening stone worked.

[@redriver6541]

I use them on machetes (cheap Walmart ones). I have used them on quality knives....until I saw a video explaining why not to.

[@KennyPowers87]

Need help deciding between manix 2, kansept convict, or the new exciton if the 344 price is justifiable.

[@Pawlo_83]

I mostly agree with all u say. Pull sharpeners do a shit job, but are enough for cheap and soft knives. I also know that scratch pattern works like microscopic saw, but as the name suggests on the microscopic level, let's be honest its impact is marginal and we do not need to make it harder then it is

[@0zmosis2001]

I figured this would be the best video to ask my question and my question is after you get done aggressively sharpening you are knife on your Diamond Stones is it okay to go to a ceramic before you strop?

[@purifierphoenixthemecca]

To be fair, if your knife bevel was at the same angle the carbide was setup for it wouldn’t create microbevels if you could pull it through without tilting to either side, which is easier if the bevels 📐are flat against the carbide edge in the case of matching angles. When the angles match the cutting of the microbevel turns into scraping of the main bevel and properly sharpening It. Now idk how toothy the edge would be if at all but the ceramic side should be able to create that since it’s an actual grit.

[@DinoNucci]

👀👀👍👍💪💪🤗🤗

[@endless3cho]

It's like sawing your blade instead of sharpening it. Everytime you did that it hurt my soul. This was a great video!

[@krystofmraz]

Well i just do like pull thru sharpeners as field "edge repair" tool. Its small and i do use it instead of really coarse stone to get some V shape on the edge i damaged. Then i will sharepen it properly on a small stone and its really not bad edge considering you can carry all equipment needed in your pocket and repair damaged edge in the field and quickly.

[@heartleak]

Fix the microphone why tf is all the audio on the left

[@NeevesKnives]

This is an old video you are complaining about, did you check to see if audio was fixed in future videos, problems happen sometimes ya gotta push through

[@grahamcairns2249]

Great video and great explanation. I do still love my work sharp blade grinding attachment for the ken onion but i still wouldn't pull through haha

[@michaelmiller7352]

Wtf nooooo not the pm2😢

[@wolfman2702]

Wow! I did not know this but it explains the results I have been getting with these gadgets and my frustrations getting a nice edge.

[@Ohmed_88]

@Neeves do u have a kizer code or link? Getting ready to pick up 3 of the new kizers.

[@anthonykitchen6533]

I got this sharpening honing rod that has so far kept me happy, but ultimately I need to learn the free hand much better.

[@davidhelka8929]

It will cut

[@sharpknivesrule6006]

When you "sliced" the paper after pulling the Sebenza through, the only reason it started was you caught the sharpened party you couldn't get to with that pull through thing😂

[@NeevesKnives]

lol true

[@sharpknivesrule6006]

@@NeevesKnives I have ceramic V rods I use before stropping. I destroyed a small SOG Keychain knife years ago with a pull through. I cringed when you pulled the Sebenza out!

[@NeevesKnives]

@@sharpknivesrule6006 I KNOW BUT I HAD TO MAKE A POINT

[@AzTurboMini]

That was brutal to watch that beautiful PM2 being drug through that God awful thing. 😖

[@kevinhauser8250]

Love your content sir and one day I would like to send in one of my prized knives and pay you to mirror sharpen it.

[@brooksa4579]

I’m so glad to have found your channel and to have seen this video!! I had watched a video by a professional chef who used a warthog pull-through to hone his expensive Japanese knives. My first thought was that has to be doing more harm than good and you have confirmed that thought. I received more knowledge on what creates a sharp knife edge in this short video than I did in the other several hundred knife sharpening videos I have watched combined!

[@zarehzoro]

Do you need a real Sharpener?

[@NeevesKnives]

What do you mean? I am a sharpener