What REALLY Ruined THIS ALL-STAR PITCHER'S CAREER? It was not drugs...

[@strongside4565]

Compelling argument, but 3 years of 250 IP seasons probably didn't do it alone. I'd imagine sleeping 25 hours a week due to snorting coke until 3 am every morning wouldn't allow that arm to repair after long outings either. Both things likely contributed.

[@mitcholla]

Strongside that’s where you’re wrong. my drug dealer has been selling me medicinal cocaine to repair my broken arm for the last 5 years. seems to be working, I feel fucking fantastic.

[@stanparker9556]

You're absolutely right. And to further your position I'd have to include the fact that the use of such narcotics typically cause the user to have no ability to eat a full and proper diet while also having the effects of the drugs themselves depleting all of your bodies healthy tissue as well as limiting your ability to heal properly and in the same timeframe as a healthy person would experience. If he didn't get into the drugs he likely wouldn't have gotten hurt and even possibly would have continued his dominance and set records that wouldn't have been touched for a long time. Truly a sad story. He seemed like a good dude. Just had his demons he couldn't defeat. Sadly this is something that happens quite often. WAAAAAY bigger of a problem than what fans realize. There's literally people in place in and around these clubhouses that push these types of things onto ALL STAR PLAYERS IN ALL MAJOR SPORTS! It's a means of power and control as well as what seems to be a much larger agenda in making sure that all who are at a certain level of fame have these horrific issues that through the fans that worship these false idols the behavior is glamorized and made to seem cool. Therefore making it much more acceptable which leads to so many people (young and old) repeating the behavior and becoming addicts who are not millionaires and these folks lives just fall apart. It's such a shame to see this as the state of our country as well as the mainstream media influencing and pushing this onto people while most pretend they can't see it and many others just aren't able to see it and they just keep on watching, the problem keeps growing, families are being separated or outright destroyed. But we got 24 hour coverage of these politicians "mostly democrats" talking about families at the borders, pushing for socialism and illegals deserving all this assistance and housing paid for by the American taxpayers while our very own American brothers and sisters are living in tents all over L.A. and EVERY OTHER MAJOR CITY IN THIS COUNTRY! None of this was allowed when I was growing up and I'm from Detroit, specifically the most gang ridden area of Southwest Detroit which happened at the time to be considered the most dangerous place in the country. And the 80s n 90s were no joke but nothing like you see today. Just junkies everywhere. If we're gonna be helping people with assistance programs we need to start with all of those Americans dying in our streets. Many of which are actually Veterans or people with untreated mental illness some are both. WHERE IS THE FUCKIN OUTRAGE? WHERE IS THE MEDIA COVERAGE? WHY ARE NONE OF THE DEMOCRATS RUNNING FOR OFFICE NEVER EVEN MENTIONING SUCH THINGS? OR DAMN NEAR ALL POLITICAL FIGURES FOR THAT MATTER? SMH.....

[@orbonds3603]

Yea sure nerd cause you where there

[@erickh82082]

@@mitcholla got any more of that powder bruh?

[@xman777b]

stop. You're making too much sense. 😚

[@MiguelRodriguez-zd6tq]

Between Larsen and Gooden there were at least three no-hitters: Righetti, Abbott, Perez (although Perez was rained-out after six innings, it was still recorded as a no-hitter.

[@eggsngritstn]

Compelling. Drugs didn't help for sure. Pitching is so individual and so difficult to manage I'm sure there are many examples of overuse we've not considered. 200 IP could be the breaking point or one, 180 for another, etc. So tough to quantify.

[@Bodhi594]

That 86 Mets team were a bunch of party animals. They wrote a book about it. Dont forget about Darrel Strawberry and Lenny Dykstra.

[@keefwins04]

Or Keith Hernandez. He loved his cocaine too. Great ball player though.

[@christopherengel7436]

I wish I could. (Phillies fan)

[@mathewfullerton8577]

Sounds more like depression is his biggest enemy. Self-medicating himself and finding problems.

[@janellemaynait]

New York City in the 80s and early 90s + cocaïne = hell on earth . #sorrynyc

[@sominboy2757]

We got biggie smalls out of it.......

[@gb6710]

I only wish you put out more content because your videos are so fun and interesting. But I know quality takes time. I always look forward to your posts.

[@PeytonManning187]

I believe it. Curveballs have been notorious for ruining arms it seems. When combined w/ a high K number it’s easy to see how that would ruin things. Yes, drugs never help, but as w/ many things many pieces comprise the puzzle. Great vid, sir.

[@jimlaregina]

Mickey Mantle hit the ball in the middle out of the park more than 500 times, to give another example of your point.

[@KTF0]

That arm motion doesn't look like it could last 10+ years without getting some trouble.

[@grandpasun]

As a die hard Mets fan, I really appreciate this video.

[@benleeds892]

it wasn’t the first no hitter since larsen jim abbot threw one in the early 90s

[@christopherengel7436]

Sshhh....

[@meirdaniel7515]

So technicalities are what you focus on?? This no-hitter by Dwight gooden was an epic triumph of working through a family crisis with flying colors. Everybody was happy for him even the Mariners for crying out loud. Most people cry when they watch this particular no-hitter. It is the component of the American dream known as the second chance that makes this so compelling.

[@MrJsfingers]

@@meirdaniel7515 excellent point. I grew up a Mets fan and Doc was my idol. Watching that no hitter brought some emotion. His father was on his death bed that night but he said his dad would want him pitching. He gave the game ball to his father.

[@TMC1982Part2]

I had previously written this in the comments section for Baseball Historian's KZbin video on the rise and fall of Dwight Gooden's career so I'll just paste what I said there: Another fatal weakness you could say besides his substance abuse and over usage was his habit of tipping off his pitches. Orel Hershiser when discussing Stephen Strasburg on ESPN Radio's "Mike and Mike" back in 2010, said that Doc Gooden often did that when the Dodgers faced off against Mets in 1988. Larry Bowa even told him after he signed with the Mets from the Cubs in 1985, that he kept tipping off his pitches. Every time Gooden would throw a fastball, he would lift his left index finger off of his glove. And every time he would throw a curveball, he would keep his index finger on his glove. I also recall hearing Jim Palmer during the ABC television broadcast of Game 4 of the NLCS (just prior to giving up that home run to Mike Scioscia) that he kept jerking his head while making his wind-up. When you jerk your head, according to Palmer, that's an indicator that you aren't pitching relaxed.

[@jaewok5G]

dave righetti threw a no hitter for the yankees in the 80's

[@aaronbirtig]

I was there; July 4th 1983 at Yankee Stadium versus the Boston Red Sox, which also happened to be George Steinbrenner's birthday, striking out Wade Boggs to end the game...

[@joemorgan9005]

Jim Abbott also had a no-hitter in 1993.

[@chrisspathelf2310]

He missed a couple points on that

[@christopherengel7436]

Sshhhh....those are secret

[@CBielski87]

this vid was smoother than the HPV shedding from Jeter's dingaling to an A-list celeb

[@FivePointsVids]

lol

[@matthewmead2374]

He didnt have a deep enough arsenal of pitches to stay dominant. He had the mid nineties 4 seam 'rising' fastball and the big 12-6 curve. After a couple seasons batters were able to figure him out. Inning after inning year aftee year trying to get guys out with the same two (albeit filthy) pitches and eventually thats gonna happen. We think of guys like Nolan Ryan, Pedro Martinez and Roger Clemens for their heat and dramatic breaking balls but all three also had dominant change-ups or splitters which was crucial to their continued success. If Doc had added a good change up or even a slider to his arsenal would of helped keep batters guessing and would of made his four seamer more effective. If you watch Docs fastball it appeared to rise as it approached the batter, meaning it probably had a really high spin rate. Ive heard that batters found that moving up in the box helped them connect with Docs fastball, and so they did their best to lay off the curve and sat on the fastball. Had Doc devoloped a third pitch it would of made this much harder for batters to accomplish. This is why so many pitchers without three or more good pitches often end up in the bullpen. So while I agree overuse contributed to Docs downfall, i think his limited arsenal also was a major contributer. And i dont think you can entirely discount the negative impact drugs had on his performance. I think he has even said that he had trouble concentrating when he was high, not to mention all the negative attention it brought him. Regardless, Doc had maybe the most beautiful delivery ive ever seen and his curve was like something out of a video game. I wish that the mets had been more patient with his devolopment and he spent more time in the minors learning a good changeup and a two seam fastball to give him more weapons to keep batters off balance

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

100% agreed. I've watched 3 videos about Gooden in the past week. Your comment makes more sense than anything I've heard or the comments I've read in those videos about his downfall.

[@dontdoittoyoself6786]

From Queens so if could I could pick one player that should've had the career they was so gifted to have I'd pick Gooden. Followed by Len Bias and then Bo Jackson.

[@DCLocal84]

There are a few factual errors in this video, so I'll be that guy: -Gooden FWAR and FIP from '90 to '93 90: 6.8/2.44 91: 4.0/3.03 92: 3.5/3.13 93: 3.7/3.56 In case you don't understand, these "bad years" range from All-Star level to Cy Young level. The fact that the narrative revolved around a W/L record is disappointing. It also undermines the argument about what went wrong because it misrepresents the time-line of when things went wrong and how badly they went wrong. -The Mets are not still paying Bobby Bonilla from his contract signed in '92. They are paying him for his last contract signed with them previous to the '99 season. The wording in the video is vague enough to let this pass, but the insinuation is inaccurate. -1st Yankees no-hitter since Larson in '56? Abbott literally threw a no-hitter in '93. Righetti threw one 10 years previous to that in '83. All that said, the larger narrative is probably more accurate than the "drugs ruined him" narrative. You can't entirely negate how drugs may have impacted his career as he was a heavy user, and his first terrible year (1994) coincided with his longest drug suspension (as mentioned in the video, it carried on through '95 due to repeated failed drug tests). However, he was pitching at innings and pitch count totals (especially with his velocity) during his early 20s that simple would not have been allowed today (or even in the '90s). Even in the 1996 season, he was eventually shut-down (at age 31) due to dead arm: a condition most likely stemming from years of work load+more than a year away from the game, as compared to his work load in '96. -Lastly, Gooden is a better HOF candidate than he is given credit for. Despite only accumulating about 4.5 FWAR from '94 through '00, he has a career FWAR of 56.7, a 9 year peak of 50.5 FWAR (above the JAWS criteria). He also finished with 2293 Ks, of which 1835 came between '84 and '93. Not saying he is a HOFer, but he is much closer than people realize.

[@kurumauzamaki2731]

If the Mets went to the playoffs then degrom without a doubt would’ve won mvp but at least he’s getting a cy young

[@andyhartkopf4167]

Yelich is a good mvp candidate

[@Pfsif]

He should have listened to Nancy Reagan.

[@hawkman917]

Very compelling argument. Doc would not have flamed out as fast as he did if there was the emphasis on pitch count there is today. Back when Doc was at his best, the use of pitch counts were in their infancy.

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

Limiting innings and pitch counts doesn't seem to be helping much considering that pitchers are still getting injured at ridiculously high rates.

[@DigDug500]

Great video Dad! He could have easily been a hall of famer

[@huntercoffman9525]

Love how during the SeatGeek promo it's Cowboys stadium. And the only thing you can't see is the jumbotron... Everybody knows when you go to a game there you just watch the jumbotron

[@jameswarner300]

I remember those days vividly, Doc Gooden was pitching an atrocious amount of innings. His pitch count was incredible after 5 and 6 innings, yet they still left him in the game. I can recall one game his pitch count got up to 90 pitches through 7 innings, and they STILL left him in the game. Drugs truly had no impact on his performance, as it only affected him over the long haul. This story reminds me of Micheal Ray Richardson, almost a duplicate. It's truly amazing the impact the city of New York has on young phenoms, its like the vultures come running after them at lightning speed. And the people that give these athletes the drugs have no remorse, only to walk around bragging on how they did drugs with a millionaire and took his money, so sad.

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

"drugs truly had no impact on his performance" Seriously? In interviews over the years Gooden himself has said the complete opposite.

[@jameswarner300]

During his early years it didn't. But not long after that it did.

[@iamhungey12345]

Mets coaching messing up his mechanics doesn't help either. I think that was the biggest reason along with drugs. They thought turning him into a groundball pitcher would help save his arm so they ended up trying to fix what wasn't broken, and ended up breaking it.

[@azn7512]

As soon as I saw the name Dwight, I thought it was Dwight Howard you were gonna do lol

[@jacobgonet5071]

Rafael Esmerio Dwight Howard isn’t good enough for a whole video by FPV

[@christopherengel7436]

I can see what you're saying, but what about those guys that pitched both games of a double header back in the day? Then they went on to pitch for 18 more years. It seems like when they didn't know they were wrecking there arms they weren't. Drysdale pitched almost 3500 innings in less years and probably worked a regular job in the winter but his arm didn't fall off. Nevermind Cy Young pitching just north of 7000 innings.

[@the_fleein_korean4194]

Dope video. I love your vids bro!!!

[@owenmcglone5275]

This was a really great video!

[@FivePointsVids]

thanks !

[@owenmcglone5275]

@@FivePointsVids no thank you sir, for giving me and all of us great sports content!

[@frloopr]

Haven't watched the video yet, but is it Fortnite?

[@FivePointsVids]

YES

[@Lil_C_024]

Noice

[@dareal05]

IMO the substance abuse and alcohol started taking its toll in the 86 season, and his recovery time and focus was not what it was. He actually started out great in 86 but by early May something was off and a lot of people could tell. He looked flushed a lot, almost out of it at times on the mound, whereas the year before he always seemed to have razor sharp focus. I believe (could be wrong) he has stated as much, that his recovery time between starts was altered with the substance/alcohol abuse that year. Also, he was still young and as he literally got bigger I also think he lost some of the natural whip motion and his release point was off. The tinkering with the mechanics may have been inevitable as he started tipping his pitches, but his delivery seemed to slow down a lot around the late 80s and he wasn't throwing as over the top as he was early on imo. Another thing, in 89 he really started out as good as he ever has besides 85, but he altered his motion from the stretch, and suffered an arm injury that shortened his season. He came back and it appeared he was getting that "life" back in his fb in the 90 season (223ks) and I thought he was poised for a massive season in 91. Will never forget in his second start that season, Bud Harrelson left him in for a complete game 14k performance against the Expos on a cold, rainy, terrible day in NY -- think he threw 150 pitches or more. He complained of arm issues after this game and I think that lingered all season. I honestly don't think his arm was ever the same after that game.

[@FivePointsVids]

Yep. Torborg did the same thing to AJ Burnett. A tragedy and a waste.

[@jaykay6387]

Yes, in 86 he was not nearly the pitcher he was in 84 and 85, when he was as close to unhittable as anybody ever was maybe except for Koufax. And you mention that he got "bigger", and that affected his mechanics/release point. Totally agree, he started to get "thick" in the middle, and that ferocious leg kick that he had started to dissipate, and he lost that explosiveness and high hop on his fastball, and hitters started finally to catch up to it. And yes, I think the drugs and partying obviously did not help matters. His windup and delivery completely changed and slowed down by the late eighties, and not for the better. To me, the fist two years it looked "explosive", and after that it got almost lethargic looking. He really could have benefited greatly from simply "getting in shape" and doing some core exercises. Look at Seaver, his delivery didn't change at all from the time he came up to the time he retired, he built it all on those legs and the pushoff. Goodens' power came from that high leg kick and over the top delivery, which he was not able to maintain. Once he lost it, he lost his magic.

[@MrJsfingers]

He was spent by the time of the World Series. I’m sure drugs played a huge part

[@floridagator1765]

NYC is the city that never sleeps. It was the drugs. Remember other pitchers had complete games back then and high innings pitched 30 years ago. Phenom and one of a kind

[@danielfisher8539]

He was the most dominant pitcher I have ever seen. Another guy who was abused like that was Fernando. He pitched crazy innings for years until his arm fell off, too.

[@paulcrepeau7488]

If Dwight Gooden had not gotten involved with the drug culture, I believe he likely would have had a Hall-of-Fame career. In the ‘60s and ‘70s, how many complete games and innings did guys like Bob Gibson, Juan Marichal, Gaylord Perry, Jim Palmer, and Steve Carlton pitch in a season on average? Their statistics speak for themselves. If Gooden had remained focused, their is no question in my mind that he could have had a career as great as Bob Gibson’s. But what really matters is that his life today is blessed, and that he is a better human being. Live and learn.

[@rhettburgess8753]

Praying for Doc.

[@waterflowzz]

Can’t help but notice how similar chapmans pitch is so similar to goodens.

[@a.arnold1413]

These are great video I watch your vids MLB despite the fact I hating the MLB

[@gringobronx7670]

Jim Abbott threw a no hitter in 1993 for the Yankees.

[@Coltddy]

He got his

[@daBEAGLE1017]

Great job 5pv

[@fredcasdensworld]

Gooden was not over used, he was used exactly how he should've been, as a starter who threw a lot of pitches who went deep into ball games.

[@fredbird7257]

Caveman take

[@patb20civic]

So coked up he missed the parade. Goals.

[@lynchlaflare926]

the music in this vid was great

[@FivePointsVids]

thanks !

[@NYFanatic]

He should have not gone into the 9th in that LCS against the Dodgers. I would have sent Randy Myers to seal the deal. Makes sense because Gooden would not have to go down that route of cocaine and other troubles.

[@johnnyp6040]

Seahawks should’ve ran the ball

[@brandonblahnik1238]

i almost cried when he threw a no hitter

[@hondansx1000]

What ruined him...simply being on the Mets!

[@BrokenHaloTheory]

The real question who ruined the Mets?

[@FivePointsVids]

frank cashen

[@VianoMusicAcademy]

Fred Wilpon. Dammit, why am I a lifelong Mets fan?

[@scottsharp1763]

5:44 “dr.K was in a huge hole!” So was he in a K-hole chasin wabbits or strawberries in the briar patch? Did U guys see the size of them chickens? She’s my butterfly, an, I’m, her, butterfly 🦋 Love the content an comedy always king thank U for doin what U do, truly unconditional love n respect ❤️💛💚

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

I can't stand the movie Young Guns.

[@daviddeconinck499]

at 6.35 mark he says Yankees first no hitter perfect game since Don Larsen in 1956?? wtfff Righetti Abbott???

[@manuelsoto9134]

It was cocaine more than overuse IMO. Gooden started to breakdown in 1986 when he started using.

[@Superplatanoman]

Dave Righetti (sp) threw a no hitter in the 80s btw

[@IMCHARBARBAR]

Very good video

[@VincentVader]

Didn't pitchers generally have way higher pitch counts per season than they do now?

[@brandonkratz0316]

First of all it did,he even admitted it

[@rocknrallsoul94rockero4]

Same thing with a Fernando Valenzuela

[@annettemalaski1967]

They rode thier pitcher's like crazy back then. If they were exceptional then use them till they dropped!

[@davidmoreno2121]

Warriors blew a 3-1 lead

[@JustLynnYT]

Indians blew a 3-1 lead Falcons blew a 25 point lead

[@davidmoreno2121]

0r30 Seahawks should’ve ran it

[@frloopr]

@@davidmoreno2121 How do you trigger ptsd? intercepted by butler

[@bassistwithadeathwish7277]

@@JustLynnYT Patriots went 17-1

[@mrprimor227]

@@bassistwithadeathwish7277 titans were 1 yard short

[@thrashbash0155]

Currently in the school bathroom to watch this #iamdedicated

[@FivePointsVids]

lol 10 minute dump

[@thrashbash0155]

Had to wipe quick in the end so no one would notice

[@Jaysonmclarty]

His son his the next best pass rusher

[@alexmorris6954]

Do you hate Jessica Mendoza FPV?

[@treymagathan847]

Ha, my best friend's last name is Gooden. He fucking sucks at pitching, though, so there's obviously no relation.

[@AE-vu3nt]

Love at first SIGHT* Not site.

[@Spacemanct]

He came back from a coke addiction and won 2 more rings that's a good career. But after baseball yhea his life went to shit

[@onehandclapping3094]

Cubs abused Kerry woods arm too

[@rydawg26]

So you go to a game with FlemLo and KTO and now you are doing these videos 😂

[@rydawg26]

I know Urinating tree was there too

[@leelantern805]

dispite how much I hate the nyy I was happy for doc when he threw the no hitter, I know he and strawberry had hard lives. do Darrel video now

[@chasedaily8134]

So playing baseball ruined his baseball career? I think it’s likely bad technique and perhaps poor physical training. While it’s not good to overplay, that is literally the contact you sign - your body for money.

[@JOHNNY-gf4rt]

Good video.

[@igraham125]

Smh he would've definitely had 5,000 k's and at least 350 wins

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

Probably not 5000 K's, definitely well over 3000 though. He would've had to pitch well into his 40's to hit 5000. Just look at all the guys who got over 4000 (Steve Carlton, Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, Nolan Ryan), they all pitched until at least 43 years old.

[@igraham125]

@@fuktrumpanzeeskum with the career he’s had , he already had over 2,000. It’s definitely possible he’d have over 5,000 K’s. He most likely would have. Either that or just flamed out over time with overuse.

[@fuktrumpanzeeskum]

@@igraham125 If you take the average numbers of K's from his 5 best seasons (84, 85, 86, 88, and 90) that's 228. To hit 5000 he would've had to average 228 strikeouts for 22 (21.9 actually) seasons in a row.

[@igraham125]

@@fuktrumpanzeeskum Yea that's definitely possible considering his best years which you mentioned, most likely weren't the best that he could do considering what he was experiencing in life outside baseball. 220 Ks is not impossible on a consistent basis.

[@igraham125]

His first 3 seasons 268 276 and 200 , by that time issues off field already. It’s definitely safe to assume he’d easily average over 220 Ks a year if what happened didn’t happen. Not saying you’re gonna get 220 EVERY year bc stuff happens some years 200 some 220 some 190 but it’s definitely possible.

[@chrisspathelf2310]

It was the drugs!!!!!!!!!

[@anotherjoshua]

innings pitched means NOTHING. It's about pitch count. also the drugs started in 86.

[@SmoothCriminal12]

Here's a joke for yall The Cubs lost to the f*cking Rockies!

[@Emperor.Penguin.]

good ol cubs

[@robertprigmore4774]

And I love it

[@mrprimor227]

I know its great

[@justinmartin1831]

Now it's official. They're the Cubs again!

[@c_c836]

I watched Gooden from day 1 when he came up as a Met.....there are several things mentioned in this video by the creator, or voice of it, which he was way off base on. If you're going to publish a video please make sure you get ALL of the facts correct. Most obvious one of all that is completely comical was he mentioned that Gooden's 1996 no hitter was the Yanks first since Don Larsen's perfect game in 1956!?!?! Really.....think you better go back to the drawing board if you think that was their first since then.

[@meatball4898]

Plot twist, it was because he was on the Mets. Seriously kill me though the athletics lost to the Yankees.

[@confusedcowboy]

Will I ever find true love Five Points?

[@FivePointsVids]

yes. my videos.

[@confusedcowboy]

@@FivePointsVids nice

[@mrdel7776]

Just innings pitched drug addiction and alcohol addiction plus mets management let go or trade players lol ha ha

[@DaveDurango]

*sight

[@DoperThenMost]

It was not drugs....one day Doc was doing coke....kk lol

[@travisrowe7697]

Lmao I can guarantee drugs were the MAIN component in derailing his career. Sure he was overworked. But drugs very much affect your body’s health as well.

[@andrewsylvia7774]

tl:dw - Cocaine

[@mattb121395]

It was most definitely drugs

[@brandttroup2949]

This is foolish. It's the type of thing that someone who wants to justify doing blow would say to someone who says "Hey man you should really stop doing blow. It'll ruin you."

[@lestergreen1190]

Bullshit. He was never the same after 1984.

[@chrishustead3594]

Dam son, this shit it sad.

[@FivePointsVids]

it is bro

[@chrishustead3594]

Hey I haven't been keeping up but I remember back when you said you you thought you weren't getting enough subscribers. I hope that shit has changed. Totally love your videos and your picture on page gives everyone a good insight to who you are. Like I told you before I will be subscribing in that stuff, it's been a little bit tight lately.

[@FivePointsVids]

chris hustead I appreciate it bro, truly. Subs are consistent. People want me to do trigger videos but I like doing these types. They are fun for me. And I always want to have fun first.

[@chrishustead3594]

@@FivePointsVids hey you owe me a Tom vs Joe vid. Ha you don't owe me shit. I was talking about the Insight on your patreon page, stupid voice to text. You do you bro !

[@orbonds3603]

Guy made the playoffs with 3 diffrent teams...when he led the indians to the playoffs ruled...dont clown doc==hof

[@orbonds3603]

He has hall numbers...put him in

[@metsoneredsoxtwo]

the Pussy Pitcher's who can't go 7inns today are No way to Compare Gooden to, try Seaver, Carlton, Ryan and Gibson to see how real Power Pitcher's Pitched a Longtime throwing Hard!, like the Ryan Express!. Scott :-)

[@hilairebelloc7815]

Mickey lolich pitched 376 innings in 1971, it was accepted then that you pitched with pain. A pitcher would rarely come out of a game during an inning because of injury, this season i saw it dozens of times. Twinges tweaks idont feel well and the manager the trainer the assistant trainer and the yoga instructor are on the mound feeling sorry for these so called pitchers.

[@CBielski87]

moar hockee plzzzzzzzzzzzz

[@FivePointsVids]

it's coming

[@grae1987]

Was it a white woman?

[@mrprimor227]

Mets wont win the world series they'll choke it im a mets fan just saying

[@michaelhowell2326]

"Dr. K was in a hole." One might call it a k-hole.

[@FivePointsVids]

LOL aka HELL

[@motoarch]

Not buying sorry. I love your videos but look at Nolan Ryan’s ip and complete games and k numbers. It’s not even close. Every pitcher is on a count now a days but it didn’t use to be that way. As always a great video but ehh not so sure I’m convinced about this one.

[@tonycordero6105]

Sight, not site. Sorry dude

[@EddEngineer]

Your argument is weak at best, this is a PR campaign to get Gooden into the MLB Hall of Fame. Who is paying, the NY Yankees? The Gooden family / friends? Baseball loses credibility when I see something like this. Should we feel sorry too for, say, Nolan Ryan, who worked 5,386 innings with one of the hardest fastballs ever? Or let's feel sorry for Greg Maddux who pitched 5008.1 innings, right? Both these pitchers are number 5 & 13 in the list of more innings worked. Tommy John, who pitched for the Yankees, ranked 20th with 4,710.1 innings, should we feel sorry for him, too? Dwight Gooden was coked out of his mind and being a full time addict derailed his career. Why he was able to get two more World Series rings with the NY Yankees? Maybe you should look into Steve Howe's career with the Yankees to have an answer. I don't feel sorry for some second rate drug addict! The Mets instead of a dynasty in the late 80's we got a coked out pitcher who was supposed to be a leader and a bunch of losers that's why we will wait forever to have another World Series title.

[@rocknrallsoul94rockero4]

Eddie Cordero truth but still Nolan wasn't overused until he was an established starter and Greg Maddux wasn't a fb pitcher Gooden was used as a 19 year old another example was Fernando Valenzuela who was overused in 1981 including game 3 of the ws and was constantly pitching complete games until 1986 when he blew his rotator cuff and was never the same. I agree drugs did play a part in killing Gooden overuse did it's damage as well