What Rolex GMT Should You Get?

[@alexandertesoro8568]

Thank you Austin for your great input and review. I do like the pre ceramic more. I’ve always liked the size style and colour. Coke is my choice. Now for the hunt. Maybe I’ll get it in Japan when I go there next year.

[@watchsymposium]

If you like Coke, preceramic it is...for now! Sounds good - lots of beautiful examples here. Take care and thanks for the custom video request!

[@TheAdequateMedia]

i have that one. my dad bought it from the AD in portland 15 years ago

[@mintychris1]

Pre-ceramics are cool. Everything about them oozes class. The newer watches have more " bling".

[@benfromaustria]

I own both multiple sport pre-ceramics as well as ceramic Rolex-pieces. After wearing them over years in rotation - I‘m more and more appreciating the pre-ceramics. They‘re much more low key - classy, slimmer - lighter and much more comfortable to wear on the wrist. The ceramic ones have to stay a long time in the safe - while the pre’s are in permanent rotation on the wrist…

[@williamschlipf9585]

You nailed it. Pre ceramic inventory is finite and declining, ceramic are still going to who knows where. That doesn’t justify obscene prices, but certainly feeds a common sense supply and demand problem.

[@Hilighted]

Appreciate your brutal honesty. Love my Sub 14060M and just bought a 16710 GMT for close to what I could have paid for a six digit Rolex. Prices are definitely climbing on the pre-ceramic but I wouldn’t have a Rolex any other way. I’m in my 50’s BTW.

[@ginzo666]

124060 is the perfect Submariner reference, but unfortunately I sold mine. LOL.

[@benfromaustria]

ENJOY your 16710…👍🏻

[@jeremydahm2124]

No question. The Rootie. If your collection is deep, that's the most unique of the current Rolex models that will be unlike your other watches. Way more casual and versatile than you think. Cheers.

[@Jckendall13]

I'm totally on board for a meteorite dial- I also think getting a preceramic would make it a bit easier to use/wear. I personally love the Coke and all black GMTs, preceramic. Keep up the great work Austin!

[@melonvalera]

Ow men ow men ow men... I'm so Hyped that I wish I could easily get a Pre-Ceramic one and change bezels...

[@greatchalla3799]

I’ve been wearing my vintage Sea Dweller as it’s my everyday wearing watch it’s proportions are perfect much like the older GMT’s. However come summer time I like wearing my GMT Master 2 Ceramic as it’s a show piece. Not wearing it after several months takes getting used to. So I’m in total agreement with you that there’s something very understated and comfort fitting with these older watches. Having said that I’ve definitely found the larger dial and better lume with larger indices and power reserve is a nice change. Everyone should experience both newer and older watch’s that enjoy the Rolex brand. If given only one choice I’d always go vintage.

[@giuliocaprini-be2pj]

To me all vintages until half 80's are amazing

[@danielmelendez9943]

I own a 16710, pre-ceramic, live the watch circa 2005. Has been serviced once due to crown needing replacement. Otherwise unpolished, but it looks amazing to date! Ceramic, does not look as good as ore ceramic.

[@mrlume9475]

I'm slowlybctching up with your vids, Austin. After watching them, I've just purchased a 2005 Rolex Explorer 2 Polar. Delighted, I would never have thought of this piece had it not been for your posts. Thanks very much for all the info you post on our addiction.

[@watchsymposium]

That's great - the 40mm Explorer 2 is a favorite of mine!

[@mrlume9475]

​@watchsymposium I associate it with your channel especially as it's on your title page. Really enjoying the vids, especially the shop trips.👍

[@watchsymposium]

Thank you!

[@renedelapaans647]

It was me in the train ! Bought my 16710 18 year ago and wear it every day since

[@vforvictor3320]

Hi Austin you're very knowledgeable about the vintage piece's

[@weezy013]

Man this video speaks directly to me as well. I still flip flop between Pre/Ceramic. One of each is probably the only way to be satisfied 😂. Personally I’d go for the all black Ceramic first then a pre ceramic Pepsi with a few bezels to go with it. Purchased in Japan with Austin of course 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ShambaBasher]

Austin keep up the good work. You’ve persuaded me to look for a pre-ceramic Pepsi! You went quiet for a while and I was worried! So happy you are back.

[@joseinluzon2218]

At 58, I have both an A-series 16600 Sea Dweller and a 16570 Explorer II (polar). To me, the ceramic versions are just different watches. Would I own a ceramic? Sure… new, at retail! I just wouldn’t “upgrade”. I’d keep my pre-ceramics.

[@philo2197]

I prefer the look of the ceramic bezel over the previous Gen. as well as the durability of the newer models seems to be better.

[@blueshirtbuddah1665]

Another excellent video Austin.

[@gregsaga682]

I have both ceramic and preceramic GMTs. I like them all but the ceramics don’t have as much soul as the preceramics. But I am an old guy so what do I know.

[@Treetopflyer777]

Man Austin how do you remember all the references, letters and years? I can’t recall what I had for lunch…🤔

[@selkieva]

I am a pre-ceramic-guy as well as you are. But if you could get some piece from an A.D, you'd find the modern ones are fascinating in a different way. I know GMT Master II is almost impossible to get at the A.D, but you might get a chance to get a Sub if you persist it.

[@watchsymposium]

Well said - fascinating in a different way indeed!

[@thomasanderson8537]

Great vid, Austin. I agree with you completely.

[@coronetmag]

Another great video, Austin-great symposium! I hope Alexander will let us know what he decides

[@adwnpinoy]

Not a fan of the maxi case. Easy question for me.

[@ma9863]

Hi Austin great video! You inspired me. I just picked up the 16710 coke. I'm 53yrs old and feel this watch is appropriate for me. Where do you recommend I buy the other colored bezels such as the pepsi and all black. On average, how much would I be looking to pay for these bezels,

[@benfromaustria]

Today I bought for my 2003 16710 coke a sealed, original Rolex pepsi-bezel - 400€ Looks sooo damn good… 🤩

[@DonAl9114]

Great input. Thank you. 😊

[@watchsymposium]

Glad it was helpful!

[@WatchJapan]

Would you still go for a 3186 movement, late Z or M series Coke, Austin?

[@watchsymposium]

Sure - but the expense!

[@robdove8341]

5 digit Tritium is the only way for me. A '96 Explorer and '91 Coke are my one + one = done.

[@mindywilliams1225]

I polish my piece every night.

[@truxton1000]

Number one in my book is 1675, number two is 16760, number three is any other hole cased pre ceramic.

[@tap2262]

I’ve said it more than once and I’ll say it again. I remain baffled as to why one would choose the newer 16710 over the original GMT Master II, the 16760 or so called Fat Lady. The case exhibits perhaps the best proportions of the genre, you get Tritium lume and the choice between Oyster or Jubilee bracelets. These pieces seem to garner a lot less KZbin hype than the later references and remain undervalued.

[@watchsymposium]

I think the 16710 has the same overhaul aesthetic, just with more modern features. It's also easier to find cleaner and more competitively priced 16710's compared to the 16760.

[@tap2262]

@@watchsymposium I tend to agree with all of the points that you’ve outlined, but the price delta is actually quite small when one considers that there were far fewer 16760s produced. Additionally, the production window ran concurrent with the 16750, making for even fewer sales. I tend to think that this reference‘s rarity will make it far more sought after in the very near future.

[@Saints-Forever]

One of each pre and new GMT is the way to go since you can afford them.

[@cliffm6566]

Oystersteel and everose is a magnificent piece, totally unique, you will never mistake it for anything else in a sea of copy cat Pepsis, Lol.

[@cookingwithwatches]

I love pre-ceramic more. One exception, Rootbeer looks much better with ceramic

[@TuRo-Maserati]

The answer of course is a $250,000 6542 with its orig. (cost $75,000 😢) bakelite insert in-situ.😊 One member Eric on vrf has a red depth writing 6542 - god only knows what its worth.... He also has a 'unicorn' silvery white dialed 1675 that Rolex Geneva have had over 2 years authenticating / servicing.

[@jblove1012]

16718 for the win! Pre ceramic is the way to go

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

✊🏽 PHIRST PHISTOS EMERITUS!! ✊🏽

[@davidstopps5887]

16750 for me … early Matte dial

[@enzozhan6971]

Hi Austin, love your videos, and I got really interested in getting a 16710 now, found one with paper and box in good condition and good price, only issue is there is a mark on the hour hand, do you think its worth/viable to get the watch and replace the hand later at a AD? or this is a no no. thanks in advance.

[@watchsymposium]

Thanks! What year (or serial) is it?

[@enzozhan6971]

@@watchsymposium it's a 1999

[@AlohaExpress2024]

Preceramic! 🎉🤗

[@j5daniel182]

Had a Ceramic Submariner and Pre ceramic Pepsi. I thought that was smarter than buying a single ceramic Pepsi. Two watches for the price of 1 . The thing with luxury stuff is it is not about rationality. It is more about desire. If you were practical you would buy a seiko. If you really like the ceramic pepsi, buying multiple watches that would equal its value is not gonna take care of that desire. The modern submariner felt great but was boring. And the vintage pepsi felt like a cheap watch on the wrist when you get used to a modern rolex. I basically was just doing it coz i did not want to be judged by others . I sold both and bought a ceramic pepsi and im now happy. If rolex value drops so be it. The two rolexes will also lose value anyway and i would lose the same amount.

[@geezer8294]

SARU is THE GMT to get.

[@Volker10watch]

Great Video, …now I Know More exactly what to Hunt For thanks: 16710, 2000/2001, Coke With Serif bezel and dial on Bruched oyster

[@bmt336]

Come on, Austin!!! Serti dial, man. SERTI DIAL!!!!!

[@aparetix]

Yeah

[@LoLreality1]

My son got a 16800 for his 30th birthday. It was mine so I assume he can pull it off but yeah it was his father’s lol

[@watchsymposium]

What a gift! 30 is the perfect age to pass on something like a Rolex to a child.

[@stemikger]

Forget Rolex. Look at the new Q Timex Reissue GMT. They are gorgeous and you will save money. Timex blows Rolex away!

[@philo2197]

I feel like some of the pre ceramic watches are more flashy than the newer models with their brighter bezels in the Pepsi, Coke and Kermit. I feel like the ceramics are less noticeable.

[@neilgoodman5848]

WTF with the hair do? 😂😂

[@jwdepriest]

My only recommendation to you Austin is to NEVER get a Rolex with the newer bracelet. I don’t want you to ruin your comfort with the old bracelets.

[@jamesmoninger1982]

Tired of hearing about the Rolex Pepsi. What a ridiculous amount of money to pay for a stainless steel watch.

[@watchsymposium]

That's the odd thing about Rolex - often times the steel pieces go for more than the precious metal ones. As for whether it's worth it or not, that's subjective. You're not paying for a watch, so much as an object that makes you feel a certain way. And if you buy at a certain price, and are able to sell if for more in the future, that can justify the purchase right there.

[@jamesmoninger1982]

@@watchsymposium I understand that it is subjective, but being an economics graduate, what do you think the $24000 Rolex Pepsi will be worth when the hype is over and everyone already has one?

[@privatedata9802]

The modern market is full of shit. People keep paying rediculous prices for these over priced time pieces and what Rolex tried to do to seiko. Their are some seikos which are way better than Rolex. Don't get me wrong I love Rolex but my Seiko Prospex watches are friggin amazing

[@bloodymarvelous4790]

Wow, you really judge people by the watch they wear? That's kinda sad. You should never buy a watch based on what you think other people will think of you. You should buy what you want and what you like. If you like ceramic bezels, buy one. If you like aluminum bezels, buy one. If you like that Citizen quartz dive watch, buy it.

[@watchsymposium]

I'm all about wearing what you like. But it's naïve to pretend your watch isn't a form of nonverbal communication, or that people won't draw conclusions from it. As social beings, that's what we do: try to get a readout on things from the cues. And that's something one might want to be aware of when they choose a watch. That's all I'm saying. Kinda sad that you missed my point.