What's Happening to KTM?

[@vintagetrikesandquads4012]

I hope they recover. KTM has been pushing the evolution of dirt bikes for a while now. I have 2 KTMs--a bit older models--and never had a problem with quality or reliability. But it was a bad idea to farm out parts production to China--just from a marketing perspective. KTM is a premium brand and people don't expect their bikes to be built with Chinese crap.

[@SteveSmith-ym4ju]

Typical corporate greed. Focus on investor value returns. They're done. 😢

[@svetozargichev2178]

The irony is that Chinese isnt crap anymore, the same 790 Cf motor is used in Kove 800 and its bulletproof comparing the KTM 790 adv.

[@jamesdumas6602]

GREED, is the answer. example: KTM installs Heated Grips, Quick Shifters and other accessories on some of their brand new bikes. Sell the bikes at a premium price then after a few hundred miles of riding those features just turn off and then the customer is forced to bring the bike back into the KTM dealership and pay around $700 to have those features turned back on. Takes the mechanic about 20 minutes. I did NOT buy a 2023 KTM 890 about a year ago because of that greedy KTM policy. I bought a Honda Africa Twin instead.

[@donbrashsux]

The Whole world is going broke .. Generational changes etc ..motorcycling isn’t like the 1970s and never will be again

[@All-4-1n1-4-All]

A hard earned reputation trashed by managerial missteps. It's a shame, really. I hope for the sake of the workers that are left that they can recover.

[@AdventureAryck]

A CEO that had a reputation for buy distressed companies now needs to be rescued by a ceo that buys distressed companies 🤣 maybe they should have been banking money when governments were handing it out to people to spend foolishly on powersports during the plandemic. Instead they bought every dirt bike company and build a giant compound in commiefornia and probably get taxed to the high heavens on it. Piere needs to be fired

[@nigelhicks6457]

I used to be a huge fan and owned a few of them. I now find them repulsive. Killing off husaberg after buying Husqvarna and then buying Gas Gas seemed weird to me. Ahh well, plenty of other options out there

[@ianyates3471]

I am a KTM 790 Adventure R (2019) owner. Had one crankshaft plus valves, valve springs and followers replaced during 2023. KTM provided the parts to their credit but the labour cost was 2k which equates to 19% of the purchase price. Yes I bought it second hand. I am not a great rider but the bike, in my opinion, compensates for my lack of skills. I suspect CFMOTO was intentional in terms of taking the best engineering and commoditising it. The recently released 450 adventure bike is a case in point. I also believe there is an element of greed in this unfolding story. The board should be dismissed immediately and replaced with the best and brightest motorcycle industry experts. In addition, a product recall for all motorcycles ie the models affected by the camshaft debacle to fix the problems. Even better, offer a trade in program that compensates KTM owners for the pain suffered as a result of the camshaft issue.

[@ianross225]

I have a 2022 890 Adventure which needed a new fuel tank because the original coating started to peel off (the dealer had never seen this and didn’t realise there was a coating). After fitting the new tank the cruise control stopped working along with starting on only one cylinder. I told the dealer I wanted a top end inspection to ensure no camshaft issues which they did and assured me as such. The starting issue is, they believe, caused by contamination in the new tank blocking the injectors. I have yet to get my bike back after more 4 months. Hardly stellar service.

[@stratosjoebar]

I would never buy something like a bike or a car from Chinese manufacturer. All that hipe about CF moto is kinda stupid to me.

[@NMdesertracer]

Its unfair to say Chinese would make a worse motor then the Austrian KTM factory that gave us Crappy 790-890 cams and finger followers!

[@Lawman-196]

Never trust Chinese, CF Motor stole their tech, designs, and now customers 😮😮😮

[@FirstLast-ue6zu]

Naaaaaahhhh ktm is just greedy like hell!!! Producing overpriced garbage bikes 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@shannonscott5788]

The Chinese did not steal anything. KTM partnered production with parts and engineering to China. If you’re smart then you will know it’s never China doing the wrong like you hear in politics. It’s KTMs decision making just the same as poor politics decision making but people would rather blame another country rather than owning their own faults by spreading false lies so they can fool and lie to people as they did you bc what you said is not true.

[@MERMBRAMA]

Oh really? Everybody else fault yes?😂

[@motoxman541]

Never trust anybody in the industry. I’ve been an engineer in the Motorsport industry for over 35 years. I can tell you 100% honestly that EVERY MANUFACTURER will buy the competitors products ( bike) and reverse engineer them. They will take the good and try to improve on it. They will test materials and try to improve on them. This happens in every industry out there. Take the blanket off your head and open your eyes to technology.

[@buddysumner4022]

Ahhh, shit now,, ktm new how the Chinese are,, and they still with there greedy asses still delt with china,,

[@shanebrooks9247]

I strongly suspect none of KTM management ride motorcyles. And I refuse to pay Austrian price for anything made in China. Include BMW in that.

[@Bdub1952]

The 390 is actually a 500 but you need a subscription for the extra 110cc.

[@philipjackson5818]

And it's the likes of that will piss off buyers.

[@BrandtMiller-k5y]

This is exactly why I didn't buy an 890. Advertised features ended up being included in the rally pack. I don't recall the exact cost, but once I was working with the dealer, it was substantial. I backed out and went with another brand.

[@droflivelife]

They underestimated ignoring the cam shaft issues and the power of social media. Got what they deserved, all about share holders and not customers. Karma.

[@SherKhan-b1kes]

Pierer (im)Mobility have dug their own grave through their arrogance and greed. Buying all those brands and having a substantial stake in MV Augusta which never had the reputation of being the absolute sales hit, left the cash till not just empty but full of debts. I bought the 790 Adventure for our little bike shop in Germany which had seen all services and as the engine self-destructed by the new owner, KTM arrogantly snubbed us off because the bike was just a couple of months out of the guarantee. We sourced a secondhand engine from a Duke to satisfy our customer and have this screwed up 790 engine in the backyard that simply isn’t fit for service. In Germany the reputation is developing as; KEINE TOUSEND METER ( translation = not a thousand meter )

[@TubedTalk]

You bought a bike that had engine self destroyed by owner and you blame KTM for not fixing that? Either I got your comment wrong or you really need to have reality check.

[@SherKhan-b1kes]

Yes, you misunderstood completely but never mind- it can happen.

[@Emily-ou6lq]

* tAUsend. A (real) German, as opposed to someone who's trying to pass off as one, would know how to write it correctly.

[@SherKhan-b1kes]

@@Emily-ou6lq ….about as correct as your forgotten punctuation Emily. Next time it’s better to let the grown ups show you where and when a question mark needs to be used. They look like this ❓ sweetheart 😎

[@Emily-ou6lq]

Meine Behauptung war ganz klar keine Frage. You're clutching at straws, fren! Curb your delusion! 😆

[@Spunkbunny-g2y]

OVER PRICED, UNRELIABLE, TECH PAC RIPOFF.... WATCH THEM TURN INTO BENELLI 😂

[@walterhorn5567]

I absolutely love my 08 990 super duke. That being said I probably wouldn’t buy one of their newer bikes with all the electronics.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

They could just lower prices, i am sure they have a margin. But Piere wants it all. Piere, YOU FAILED.

[@TR850]

I do not think that is the way to go, as I actually consider their pricing pretty competitive on most products. I think they should focus on quality and their customers, which I think they have not done much lately. Quality issues and the support when you have them is the main issue for me. Otherwise great bikes if you have no issues.

[@thelonewolf666]

overpriced bikes is the why

[@36moto]

It's just my opinion but Kiska's odd design coupled with poor reliability has been a major issue, change is great but the off the wall outlandish headlight thing killed it for me, build what the riders want, not what you want to sell... subtle difference. I truly hope ktm recover from this, the "ready to race" ethos is a winner, but a business has to sell bikes that look great and most importantly Work.

[@Dirtbikeguy-rp6zb]

KTM is failing in the exact same way that Boeing is. Complete arrogance by the upper management. They fail to focus on the product and focus only on the stock price. I bought a 2017 KTM EXC 500 and was absolutely floored that the bike could not be ridden stock on a easy desert trail. The fender flexed so much that the fender hit the rear tire and locked up the rear wheel on any big bump! I saw all the problems with the 2019 and on fuel injected two strokes and ran out and bought the last XCW 300 in the state with a carb. Now the 300's come with FIVE computers under the seat. How long will they last crossing streams, going through mud and being power washed afterwards? REPLACE THE UPPER MANAGEMENT NOW.

[@wernerxldata]

We ride ktm / gasgas for years now, never any problems and parts are order today in my house tomorrow. Their motocross bikes are great, and they did start some evolution, now every major brand has finally electric start for example. I sure as hell won't go back to a kickstart machine... And yes I've had many as my motocross adventure already started in 1988. Good for you you like your YZ's, they're great bikes. Enjoy your riding 🎉

[@dahatchery]

@@wernerxldata they are raw and real. That’s what I like about them. I like the fact at the end of the day I know I went on a ride on a real dirt bike. Most years YZ in the right hands can and will destroy the millions dollar euro bikes in a hare and hound. My friend does it on his stock 05 YZ125, he’s also 57 years old. It truly isn’t the machine, it is about the rider.

[@wernerxldata]

@@dahatchery Yes it's about the rider, but innovation on bikes didn't stop, they get better and better. Especially on the chassis part and the power delivery. My experience, as a vet rider, is the new bikes are way easier to ride. And you're right, there's a price difference but I really like my hydraulic clutch, electric starter, brembo brakes, bulletproof clutch. In general they have been just as reliable for us as Japanese bikes. Stuff like big ends last even longer than other brands. In the end everyone has it's own preference, without the diversity it would be quite boring to look around in the paddock ;)

[@finnsxc3610]

Quality,quality and quality if i want Chinese bike , i´ll buy it not rebranded KTM and vice versa . Build quality bike from quality part ,that only need personal set-up for customer to do to be perfect !!!

[@CharlesHazen]

Accountants. That is almost always the demise of a large company. People that chose that career because they are too afraid to get there hands dirty. They don't personally care about these types of products because it is all about money and they tend to forget that their is a customer base that actually purchases these bikes that is nothing like them. (Blanket Statement I Know) KTM has made some great stuff over the years and have been innovative. Again that wasn't the accountant doing these things!! The laundry list of issues on extremely expensive bikes got really old from a customer perspective. Then when retribution was sought they treated the customers as if they were some sort of disgusting plague. (Hundreds of Examples of This Online But Have No Personal Experience In That Regard) Moving the manufacturing to places that have a long track record of poor quality was another stain in the eyes of the customer. Then the absolutely most disgusting thing ever was to purchase a bike and not have full computer capabilities. The accountants said you have to pay a subscription if you want the software opened up?? Wow! What a fricking slap in the face. Personally that was it for me. No more KTM's from that last point alone. They can stick there little subscription where the sun don't shine. Contrary to how the liberal dolts of the world expect things to be given to them or to have everything taken from the backs of the actual builders and maintainers of the world there is this thing called capitalism. If you stop providing the customer with a product that is a better option than your competitors then your competitors will take market share. It really isn't rocket science. Another thing that KTM doesn't get is there market base. The average age of an adventure bike rider is 54. The last thing the vast majority of these people want is some BS tech that takes forever to get anything done, constant interference with riding and bound to have tech issues. Who exactly is deciding that riders want all the garbage tech on the bikes? Yes to be fair there is a few that do. Especially the unskilled riders tend to like traction control, ABS and to be able to talk on the phone and listen to Taylor Swift. But the majority do not.

[@js7003]

I have a 2010 smt 990. Best bike i've ever owned. No abs, no trac, no fancy screen, no bullshit. I love KTM because of that bike, but would never own a new model. The resonating message I keep hearing from owners of newer bikes makes me think maybe it's too late for them.

[@dennisvillacorte4122]

Who listens to taylor. Swift😅😅

[@CharlesHazen]

@@dennisvillacorte4122 Certainly no one without a TFT

[@WillPower46]

I regularly buy new bikes but even though I like riding KTM bikes I would never buy one because of poor reliability and quality.

[@crashdsnowman1]

Odd, I have 4(790 duke, 250SX, 250XC and 500excf) and haven't had any issues. All are lighter and have more HP than any competitors bikes.

[@RK-ud4wk]

I've owned 6 KTM's not one major problem ever.

[@randycallow3736]

Certainly oversimplified but KTMs problems are self made.. what is a KTM? Is it a GasGas, Husky, CFMoto or Baja? Do customers looking at and buying KTM assume that they are getting an Austrian design and engineered, manufactured product primarily? Yes. KTM needs to worry about emerging markets no doubt, but if you are going in too many directions can't concentrate. And now quality issues and catastrophic failure are part of brands reputation. BMW is playing with same fire, ditching Austrian Rotax for 3rd world production for smaller displacement engines...

[@RK-ud4wk]

Exactly they need to dump the other brands and focus on KTM!

[@cliffordzehmke5650]

It is strange how people love to kick you when youre down ,most of the negative comments come from people who never owned a ktm ,i have had ktm s for some time ,no more problems than my friends' susuki ,honda bmw or yamaha ,they all give trouble ,not to mention the Italian bikes and triumphs ,please admit all bikes have problems

[@craigmajor2812]

GREED will now take down Husqvarna and Gas Gas. Both haven't been the same since the KTM takeover.

[@caveyful]

Great top-tier race bikes, but most riders are not top-tier racers

[@johnstaring3210]

One thing is for certain, KTM will serve itself first before its customers, just as they have proven in the recent past.

[@red.riot.2280]

I think it’s the group that owns it. Not the brand…

[@nickthequick]

Bloomberg today: "Austrian conglomerate Pierer Industrie is seeking to extend the maturity of almost €250 million ($263 million) in debt as a consequence of financial strains at its KTM motorbike maker unit"

[@BocoGreenpeace]

It was upper management that put KTM in their current crisis, so they need to be replaced.

[@TubedTalk]

KTM just needs to adjust its production according to post covid demands. They lost on share value, and this is quite normal that shares go up and down. HD meanwhile has 39% lower sales and nobody is talking that they will shut down. Did KTM make more bikes this year then sold? Most definitely. Is that the end of KTM? Far from that. I even own KTM among few bikes I own. It was never less reliable then other brands and their dealership is great here where I live.

[@billdee9622]

Go back to being a European company. Leave the China C F Moto connection. Americans and others are starting to backlash against Made in China.

[@teamflanneloutdoors5631]

Yep. Buddy of mine runs a Moto repair shop, lots of electrical issues, strange mechanical issues and Kymco cylinder issues last few years.

[@BaronvonOldenbiker]

Every company needs to sever their connection with China. Somewhere down the line, everything they touch turns to shite.

[@htssoutboardsboatstrains9784]

They need to go back to basics, a Euro alternative. Designed and manufactured the Austria. The international push may look attractive but changes the perspective in the market of who they are. So Back to Austria,, back to good solid dirt & race bikes for the off road market place. Focus on the core of what made them. Motocross , Cross country, and Enduro. Problem is Ducati and Triumph are right there to fill that spot.

[@tonyprice7068]

Wonder why they never made a 450/690 adventure like the cf moto 450 that will sell loads...

[@HW100-b2i]

Quality gone to sh1t,prices sky high what could go wrong😂

[@sikador8627]

Poor quality and availability of parts and high prices - this is the problem. When it comes to Japanese motorcycles, even 20 years old can be easily repaired due to the availability of parts. When it comes to KTM, there is a problem with several year old motorcycles. I hope that KTM will think about it and will not make similar mistakes in the future because they can make great motorcycles.

[@lexcan05]

Paying over 7K for a 85 sx big wheel is so expensive. I did it but it is overpriced. Great bike though!!

[@BIBIWCICC]

Brilliant news, they screwed their customers and they all walked away. BDS at its finest!

[@gui7esp02]

It is sad to see how a motorcycle manufacturer like KTM is moving the production of some of their models to China, i believe this is going to make the newer models even more unreliable. I own a Superduke and i am very satisfied with it but would never buy a KTM if it is not 100 percent made in Austria.

[@paulwood7798]

I remember when KTM went broke the first time they had plenty of warning. Had to buy out Husaberg a couple of guys working out of their tiny unit in Sweden soundly beaten regularly by Smets. Bought the company to learn how to win races later followed by all the other non Italian European brands. Here we are a few years later badly run caring little for customers when there are profits to be made. Are we surprised.

[@keirhamilton5397]

Huasaberg beat and kawasaki also,they bought bought husaberg as a testbed for four-stroke tech ,they had won championships before husaberg were on the scene

[@harveycamacho2247]

KTM bike are to expensive for what you get

[@marcusfollosco3986]

It's good Chinese brand started dominating branded motorcycle 😅

[@JoseVazquez-dy9tu]

cost and reliability issues... just going in for a bolt or screw was 5 dollars compared to 1 dollar for a Honda or Yamaha part.... never looked back my Wr250F has had no issues is the 7 years I've owned it....

[@marktarascio4766]

Not just expensive parts now, when KTM took Penton over a 125 piston was 75 dollars without rings .

[@markkus1134]

Too big to fail QC problems I’ll keep my WR 250r which I’ve seen others with over 70k on the motors never apart!

[@stan9636]

I hope someone steps in to save the comany!! It'll be a sad day if its lost....

[@lexcan05]

(Company)

[@stoney10]

I’m looking at a 690/701 in a few months. It’s the only bike for its weight that will pull me. I’m a big guy. Now I’m nit sos sure what I should do

[@KevinDaken]

Anyone who watched the 2024 ECMA and UK Motorcycle Live videos would have seen, the Chinese aren't coming anymore, they here. Once you push through the uneducated xenophobia you can see they're turning out a very reasonable products, at a reasonable price. Having owned a number of KTM's, including the indian ones, there is a disconnect between the price KTM are asking, and the overall quality of these products. They're around 120% too expensive when compared with similar offering from India and China.

[@donkeizluv]

This is sadly true. Anyone who thinks Chinese big motorcycle brands aren't quality stuck in the past

[@justsomedude445]

damn the level of stupidity in some of these comments is shocking and honestly scary

[@Ultimate-Deadpool]

Red bull needs to save KTM

[@philipjackson5818]

KTM shot themselves in the foot, camshaft issues were one thing then add to it having to pay extra to have the likes of heated grips turned on even though the hardware was installed on the bike.

[@donkeizluv]

That never happened. Pure bs

[@WojciechP-i9q]

I love my 1290 sas it takes all I put on it and ask for more, i do maintenance and have no problems with that bike , so those who crying about quality od KTM never ride one for sure

[@charliepyle1626]

CF Moto will buy them out for 1 dollar

[@MotoGuzziMoto]

Let's see now. Worst warranty and support in the industry and no recalls for obvious manufacturing faults, and even to this day have not fully owned up to the problems they created. Calling it good will when it is clearly a warranty item. Too many faults that never get rectified in following models (misty screens, false neutrals, clutch slave cylinders etc). Ugliest designs in their respective markets. All colour options are orange. New models released too often. Trying to upsell features that the bike already has installed and should have been standard. Too many brands selling essentially the same bike. Uncertainty about manufacturing origins and perceived quality.

[@DasChristoff]

Used to love ktm. Last one was a 2020 450xcf and I loved it. In the market For another bike and I prob won’t go ktm. Rather have a kickstart rmz450 or a yz450fx.

[@muzzkeg8172]

"We think they might fail"

[@natemac7924]

all they need is a 350 of each model,No other brand to complete with on them! best size vet bike

[@dahatchery]

I most certainly love my 02 YZ250, 05 YZ250, 14 YZ250, and my 05 YZ144. Don’t need a bike that costs a fortune let alone so many changes over a couple years time that it becomes hard to find parts! Euro bikes are great and pure Sh$t at the same time!! I’ll never own one because I simply don’t need one. I’ve rode a few, want nothing to do with them, like I’ve said, I don’t need any of them heavy bikes. Multiple videos show a YZ destroying any euro enduro bikes from 02 till now. The YZ is the ultimate do all 2 stroke dirt bike hands down! Almost all the dirt bike magazines have said this. These are the facts, period!! You don’t have to agree with any of it. But it goes to show that you don’t have to pay a stupid fortune for a really “great” dirt bike!!

[@teamflanneloutdoors5631]

Ironically I grew up on Japanese bikes, worked at a Japanese dual brand dealership, bought a new MX bike every year. Bought my first Euro bike in 02’, a Husky WR250 (which was really an MV Agusta Cagiva) and I’ll never buy another Japanese bike again. But I’ve also never owned a KTM. Euro build quality and components are superior IMO.

[@RK-ud4wk]

Yz250 does cost a fortune for what is, at least in Australia it does.

[@dahatchery]

@@teamflanneloutdoors5631 yep! Agreed! Try to find parts for that ultimate porche dumbo bike that don’t have parts readily available just stow that million dollar dirt bike in the garage for 6 months, wait for the parts , hey “stupid” learn to ride a raw real bike! Now this means nothing, if you’re paid to ride a bike any bike then, you are bought and sold dummy!

[@dahatchery]

@@RK-ud4wk how much would it cost in the way of parts to keep a KTM, Husky, GasGas, Sherco, Husaburg, TM, or Reiju?

[@mikeskidmore6754]

Globalism.. Cam shaft failures? Never heard of that Problem? Warranties? Tough luck.

[@TinShackVideos]

...not to mention all the faulty cams?

[@anniestiles10]

Are you assuming it's on all the ktm bikes?

[@termita42]

i'm sure it will recover..

[@LogeshKumar-l1u]

Ktm lost its dominance in India by introducing new gen Rc's

[@Hisway1151]

It's much worse than is being reported. This will snowball. Expect some "real" bad news shortly.

[@RK-ud4wk]

They need to distance themselves from CF Moto and Chinese stakeholders have way too much influence. Sell off Gas Gas and Husqvarna and focus on KTM only. Personally i lost all interest in KTM 2 strokes when they went to Fuel injection, went to 4t after that.

[@CS_247]

Overpriced bikes, which are now built in China. Won't ever replace my 950 Adventure, but i will never buy another KTM again. Hellooo Honda Africa Twin. Nice.

[@antares8341]

Overpriced garbage!

[@wsguntoro]

Compared to Yamaha they are overpriced as hell

[@NunezRoldan]

KTM= Keep The Money.

[@tomdoe4295]

Why should I pay a lot more for a premium bike built from inferior Chinese labor when I can buy a premium Italian bike for a lot less?

[@KinglyKitten]

I considered buying the CF Moto instead and pay a more appropriate price for what you are getting. In Canada its a several thousand dollar difference and the CF Moto comes with everything including pannier racks and panniers. I am glad I didn't go that route and got the new V-Strom instead.

[@pabloricardodetarragon2649]

Neo liberal blind management . Pier Mobility has made a lot of debts for brands without real interest for KTM, for adventuring in indecently priced electric bicycles that nobody bought. And has spent far to much money for races that nobody rally follows except a handful of fans. Worst KTM has a despicable policy with its customers. Another greedy mistake was the joint venture with CFM. Now CFM, as always precised in the Chinese joint ventures, has the legal property of the engines and now can sell and even modify these engines. Surely CFM has corrected their flaws. And Kove makes a 165 kg 800cc TT bike using the 790 CFM ex-KTM engine... After the 2007 financial crisis, Baraj (India) owns 49% of KTM. A possible scenario is that all the lateral Brands will be shut down, the bikes sector liquidated, and Bajaj the lone internal partner with enough cash and will to save KTM gets at least 2/3 or 3/4 of the shares, and thus can take KTM in India. That reminds me the British managers of BSA on 1973-74...

[@thomasbiancuzzo9889]

I bought 7 Ktm s in a row 990 limited Baja set 990 adv 990 the 690 duke p os suspension I’ve ever had Exc 250 great nevertheless the less I’m done Honda all the way 🖕🏿🖕🏿ktm

[@tcskibike]

Get back to what made you great, offroad. KTM has a lot of European competition and if Yamaha smartens up and builds what is now called a Fantic they are done.

[@rochellestanley9532]

Bye 👋, and good redence

[@Ultimate-Deadpool]

KTM can't compete against Chinese equivalent bikes at cheaper prices

[@crashdsnowman1]

The people that would buy KTM would not buy a chinese bike.

[@justsomedude445]

well i guess wether china cheap ass slave labor made crap made possible by the intellectual property theft of others becomes the norm is up to the individuals who make the choice to buy said crap or not

[@KinglyKitten]

@@crashdsnowman1 But they are buying chinese bikes with KTM stickers on them

[@klano8443]

There to fucking expensive.

[@blowduke]

You can’t expect to make things in China and charge premium prices people can see through that carry on ,you might as well buy a cheap Chinese bike your getting the same

[@BGOogb]

Cf moto will just buy them

[@KirkAnderson-l3i]

Corporate greed, CEO’S building bikes that bean counters want. These bikes are expensive, build quality is in decline, reliability issues plagued KTM. But I believe, CHINA is on the March offering very capable bikes, loaded with fruit for less money. And as people feel the pinch, future buyers look for cheaper alternatives. Car industry is slowly going the same way, again China offering a cheaper alternative by flooding the market. One can only KTM can reverse coarse.

[@ianross225]

All self-inflicted.

[@forestboy54]

Love riding Ktm bikes but could never buy one because of their terrible dealer network and the contempt they seem to have for customers, especially when things go wrong. You reap what you sow.

[@Henry-r2r]

ktm made in China? quality will plummet.

[@carls.2071]

Boing!

[@ranjithm1648]

Collaborating with china always deaster

[@edsonbarcellos4541]

Kkkk KTM made in India and China!!!

[@alankelter9416]

KTM is not going anywhere, stop making this shit.

[@BritBikeAdventures]

Looks like it's moved its manufacturing to places like India though, so it has gone "somewhere" 👀

[@alankelter9416]

@BritBikeAdventures home is still the same. Our big 3 auto manufacturers use mexico in manufacturing, so?

[@TubedTalk]

@@BritBikeAdventuresit did not move all production to India. Harley moves some production to India also. Does that means that Harley is going away and become brand from India? To be able to survive on today’s market a lot of companies have partnerships and some producion moved to have it cheaper. It’s just trendy to shit on KTM, while they make awesome bikes. Not the best, none has that title, but definitely great bikes.

[@BritBikeAdventures]

Not trying to "shit" on KTM. Just discussing the moves that are happening in the industry. Most bike brands are having to adapt. All the best.

[@BritBikeAdventures]

I'm sure they will bounce back! Like you said, home is still the same. I think most brands are dealing with the current climate in their own ways.

[@mitch-1973]

Of this crisis continuing ... Mercedes Will buy It or cinese multinational for sure

[@gordonsuddery4635]

I'll be sorry to see another motorcycle company go to the wall, but i do believe they have bought the problem on themselves. My best wishes to you from the Philippines ♥️🤔💭💪👍😉😄😁🏁🏍️🛺🐑🇵🇭🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿⭐

[@justsomedude445]

no