What's Happening to OpTic? (The Flycast

[@MrKidCaliber]

No fans are here for corporate optic so if u guys get dropped, as long as you all stay together and don’t disappear you will have our fan support

[@Scottsman77]

Swanky massive facts! Can we just get scuf house vibes back?

[@xandeeee]

Team Summertime everyone

[@Scottsman77]

Alexandre Camargo yoooo that would work actually

[@_lynx_7782]

Facts

[@seonstephen5759]

@@_lynx_7782 BTH x TST

[@pandaax92]

One million percent I would still listen. I'm not here for OpTic, I am here for Nick and Davis.

[@heywhatsup3566]

Nick and Davis sounds like a good sitcom name lol they could make a duo channel called that or hitch and maniac

[@zurlich9359]

If OpTic drops the whole team all the stories about corporate need to be dropped

[@SeanIn60Secs]

Nadeshots next vlog: "Buying Optic gaming!"

[@joecooper8527]

Honestly could

[@HiTechRedneck]

That'd actually be kinda dope. I mean, I don't want anything bad to happen to OpTic, but if it does get bought out, at least Nadeshot would hopefully treat them right.

[@NasonVSRG]

and do what exactly with the sports teams??

[@uzkeonwont]

HiTechRedneck nadeshot has no where near the amount of money to buy 10% of OpTic

[@cgk6312]

@@uzkeonwont You're a fucking moron. On top of that he wouldn't buy it individually he would buy it with an investor group that he would be the head of.

[@daniel_ftw]

The way Hitch starts the podcast "are you horny" lmao

[@siviok2434]

Waking up to a Saturday with a new episode of the Flycast? It's going to be a good day.

[@countbanda1504]

Hell yeah I'd still listen! Because you two are part of what made Optic, Optic and that's what true fans of the organization are going to continue to care about.

[@getrowed101]

If you guys get dropped y’all gotta put these folks on blast from beginning to end. It will burn some bridges but the truth demands respect and respect it will have. Hecz can’t and wouldn’t but I think this would be an eye opener for esports. Not on some drama vibe but more on the future of esports and this could be you if you’re not careful.

[@cmoff6269]

All the juicy stuff and OpTic stuff starts at 36:00

[@haterharold3889]

🐐 🐐 🐐

[@LukeTheNotable]

51:00 An extra bedroom for content creators is a 10/10 idea.

[@jesseo2103]

Hitch at the very end said I know this was negative in the second half, but there’s a big difference from this talk and last years. This is informative. The guys aren’t pissed. They’re open. It’s just the truth. Was a good pod. Love the flycast.

[@tylerk2961]

Damn just realized Pamaj left at the perfect time

[@holychunk6675]

Optic or not you guys are still my bois! That pretty much goes for everyone else in optic too.

[@sethd5632]

I would make sure I never miss an episode just to support you guys through that shit. Stay up boys

[@kirkblonien3164]

I love y’all! The old school of y’all vlogging is something we miss. One thing I really dig is nick doing his GTA thing!

[@martyy7102]

I came for OpTiC, I stayed for Hitch and Maniac 🙏🏻

[@zPhaZen]

36 minutes OpTic part.

[@coryfowler7059]

Thanks

[@zPhaZen]

@@coryfowler7059 👊

[@PhantaxPlays]

you the real MVP

[@ryanbarton9970]

Goat right here

[@solvemycrimes]

Some hero’s don’t wear capes

[@adamh4102]

I literally haven’t went through an episode without watching the full thing, while studying, walking to lectures even in the shower. You guys have a great dynamic and it really shows how much you guys care for optic. Optic should consider content creators as a priority cause they are the face of everything and the main attraction of brands while the e sports teams bring in value in the back end of the business

[@feitfr]

opened my eyes i really hope hecz gets his position back on top to do things the optic way hopefully no one gets dropped and i definitely will listen no matter what

[@Juubian]

Actually been uploading these weekly that’s crazy

[@codybonner3828]

Trying to get sponsor $ I'm sure. Good for them!

[@QK_Engineer]

they got a sponsor

[@derekmoore295]

Glad you all got sponsors for the fly cast now these should be weekly!

[@MrCesar313]

can we get timestamps on the topics, kinda like how hecz does the eavesdrop? Nevertheless, comedy as usual! lol

[@kirkblonien3164]

That GTA stream is fire brother. Ur boy Billy is deez nutz

[@Legacii]

Getting ownership back to H3cz seems like the only way to revive Optic again, then after recruit new players/creaters such as teams like TSM and Faze are doing.

[@dozaroner642]

Don't think thats even possible now but 100% agree

[@HollywoodRippin]

Long story short, OpTic was bought by the wrong investor/management team. Look at Liquid or Complexity, amazing management. It was no one’s fault, but the corporate side.

[@frankierc2920]

Ah I just wish hecz sold to people who wouldn’t treat it like this. I guess he couldn’t have known and got unlucky... or perhaps he should have been more cautious, and I massively respect HeCz

[@StretchedW9]

Long story short if H3CZ would’ve never sold out it would never landed in the wrong management hands.. so as much as I hate to say it, it’s H3CZ fault.

[@HollywoodRippin]

F RC Like you said, he couldn’t have known. I bet you anything in the world, if he knew the consequences of selling, he would have waited for another investor.

[@HollywoodRippin]

Red Beard if he never would have sold, Optic wouldn’t be able to compete financially. I hate to say it, he is no fortune teller.

[@StretchedW9]

Michael Oh please lmao OpTic would’ve been perfectly fine without an investor coming in and ripping shit apart. H3CZ sold portions off to fund the LoL team that’s done nothing for anyone and it’s put everything in a bind not to mention causing the Halo team whom just won a championship at the time to get dropped.. It’s funny you say he’s not a fortune teller but EVERYONE called all this from the beginning including all the players..

[@00Sevn]

i dont speak for everyone when i say this but I would listen to the podcast no matter what team you guys were on.

[@hball1236]

I like Spotify for Podcasts way more. I know you won’t do it, but it’s nice to have it downloaded so I can listen when I work (no wifi).

[@CurlSQD]

Facts when i fly downloading it is clutch

[@nickzamora7374]

No one is here for the OpTic name boys, we're here for Hitch and Maniac.

[@DeuceTreyz]

I'm with Davis on it, once Hecz opened the door and signed the company over and got investors. When it comes to business everyone is expendable in the end PERIOD. As for content, I barely take in any OpTic content weekly

[@dentyph5169]

Deuce Treyz 100T have investors just like the majority of the orgs in cod. the problem is hecz sold majority shares so lost any real decision making.

[@cameroncumming8959]

I’d love to see part 2 to this. Only started following the optic story in the past 6 months

[@glowinggrave]

My loyalty stays with the personalities I have come to know. I owe so much to the people that have entertained me. Following Optic for as long as I have, I go where the OGs go.

[@drtblood2]

OpTic is all about the personalities. So true OpTic fans would follow all of you guys no matter where you end up. You’ve got the Old Guard, TST, BTH you guys could be entertaining doing literally anything so don’t stress about it too much mun, you’ve got the true fans of OpTic with you no matter what.

[@HKOVENOM]

The move to Texas killed Optic. In Chicago everyone used to watch because of Vision and Smooth comp

[@8RJN]

HKO VENOM facts and the house had a lot of good members that were funny but the new one is missing the best members and good vlogs besides hitch and maniac

[@VVhawks51]

No H3CZ selling to Infinite was what killed OpTic

[@ImBirk]

Scottsman77 I think selling Optic had the potential to create a ton of more growth and expansion and therefore profits but it just didn’t pan out. Business is all about risk and this one didn’t pay off. But h3cz is not a moron for thinking it would work because it has for so many other esport orgs.

[@VVhawks51]

@@ImBirk that's because they had investors that let the org run itself instead of fully taking over and not knowing a single thing about running an org. Think about 100T they have a ton of investors but they never tell nade how to run it cause he knows what he's doing. H3cz just saw the big number on the check and handed off OpTic to Infinite

[@ImBirk]

Ynohtna N 100T isnt the only esports org out there doing well, there are others that have been fully bought who succeeded because of that. Saying that h3cz did it purely for the money is pathetic, he thought there would be growth and Optic was at a standstill in his hands. Something needed to be done and he made the wrong choice but saying he made that choice only for the reason of money is idiotic. Infinite screwed them over by not delivering on any of their promises.

[@REVERBxCALIBER]

Most college kids get Spotify premium and Hulu for like $4 that’s why most of us want it on Spotify granted apple podcast is free

[@chillz108]

REVERBxCALIBER I am one of them but I don’t mind watching them here on KZbin

[@REVERBxCALIBER]

Me neither I usually watch them on KZbin but I get why people ask for them to be on Spotify

[@vicmathew23]

Apple Music discounted for college students too

[@HiTechRedneck]

@@vicmathew23 true, but with Spotify you also get a Hulu subscription thrown in for the same price as Apple Music. Not hating on Apply Music though, I had it for a couple years and only recently switched to Spotify.

[@KronicZG]

Literally just rolled a backwood and I hear Nick say " roll it up, spark that shit up" lmao best ad ever tbh.

[@luisgallardo1606]

iKronic big facts

[@willisisawesome]

Hell yeah just woke up and this posted. Shits about to be a good day. Just finished watching the last half was pretty interesting stuff. I would definitely watch. I love your guys content and cant really ever watch streams much so I always try and watch your videos. Also Flycast is the best. Is it bad I kinda want that around the bar to happen.... but nah hope everything works out for y'all.

[@jonas_molino]

I've been watching optic for so long, long before you guys even joined. I loved for far it has come and it breaks my heart to see that optic is being destroyed.

[@ShrapnnL]

You guys (every OpTic member) is what OpTic is, not the brand. The brand just gives me another way to represent how much I love what you guys do. 🤘🏼💚

[@ca1ns579]

Maniac - “ what if I turn gay” James Charles - enters chat room

[@zachhumphreys1275]

@OpTic_Fan_Man here guys and I'm so sorry you guys didn't get the support of a cooperate team that understood the space and how to grow it. Not all corporate management is that clueless and I hope this doesn't spoil your taste for business and all the opportunities it can afford you when you have the right team behind you

[@hennaz1003]

Tbh a few OpTic content creators, let's be real do they deserve their spots?. Do they work hard enough? Na tbh they been blessed for years. All this sounds like is literally like any other business that we normal people have to deal with

[@nacliiusa9005]

It would be low key sad to see them drop optics content creators but would also be high key dope to see you guys finally move to LA and start your own little circle

[@mdoug71]

We are here because of the people in OpTic, not because of the name. In all honesty it doesn't even feel like "OpTic" is a thing anymore, it's just a word people use.

[@EonsHD]

Maniac: butt cheeks must be stopped Also Maniac: *gets butt implants*

[@erickperez3806]

OpTic is just a brand because of the personalities in it. If they drop you guys, honestly you guys won’t lose the OpTic fans and you guys can get more benefit from being drop from what I’ve been hearing from you guys the past year and a half. I know you guys love the OpTic you guys were hired by because you grew and love OpTic but remember house is not home, Home is where you feel like you belong. Hopefully everything goes well for you guys. Just know you got my and many more people’s support.

[@devenhensley1482]

Y'all might not be the biggest content team but you're for sure the best bross

[@Tyrcitys]

Appreciate the honesty boys. Always keeping it real. Would hate to see the OpTic brand disappear. If it does and it's no longer available due to TMs and such, everyone that wants to stick together should make a new org. OpTic 2.0!

[@jaimerivera448]

41:35 "you know we ain't losing that shit" I feel that on a spiritual level. lol

[@primetimetc1662]

We would still listen if you guys get dropped. But just make it Team Summer Time fly cast. just let everyone join Team Summer Time

[@crietonfightin899]

If y'all do get dropped go out with a bang. Create attention and just start uploading w/o the optic name

[@SickBoyRy]

I would definitely still listen, these podcasts are hilarious and insightful in so many ways, never stop!

[@LukeConnerton]

Would 100% still watch/listen. Everyone has been watching you guys for years and 99% of people watching watch for YOU guys not because of OpTic. Thats my opinion anyway

[@TB-fh3vn]

Optic is just a name, I’ll be supporting you guys no matter what happens. You guys always keep it real and I can relate to you on so many levels. Keep the grind alive boys

[@suminach]

Each ep I’ll be sitting there in my blanket eating ice cream. Optic or not we watch YOU

[@2mailman5]

Damn, what Maniac is dealing with sounds like a real pain in the ass. I'll see myself out...

[@svrp9801]

Hey Nick/Davis, I've been following OpTic since probably like 50k subs and it's definitely a shame how things are going since Infinite and the move to Texas. However all I can say is that the heart of OpTic has and will always be the people in the org and how personal it is. It would be a shame if the content team gets cut but they are more OpTic than any investor will ever be and I think the majority of fans are loyal to the people over the brand. As for the content team, I wish you guys would just produce content for yourselves as a team rather than feeling you need to do it for OpTic.

[@philtheplant616]

I would still watch you even if its Nick & Davis flycast! Seriously I truly watch you guys because of who you are and how funny and entertaining you are. Please keep doing whatever you need to do and never stop the grind cuz we'll always have your back optic or not!

[@Daniel2SantosS]

I Learned about you through optic but I stayed cause you two are so much more every content creator actually cares about content and thats why we listen cause you actually care about the fans who support, not the toxic fans who constantly find something to be wrong

[@silver5211]

I feel like the B team house is more of an optic house than the main optic house. But having two houses in my opinion doesn’t make sense when they could have done better with just a larger house

[@ImBirk]

Not a fan of Nick still trying to justify most of Optic content creators not uploading anything coming to Texas. Those first few months are crucial to the new owners to see your value. I really don’t believe “there was nothing to upload” due to the apartments, you could get out and find something to vlog or just do gameplay videos, streaming, the Flycast, anything. Regardless though I do love your guys’ content and I’ll watch you wherever you end up

[@dentyph5169]

Birk i agree they are all gamers how can they not have anything to upload lol.

[@m3lmann]

Boys, nothing would change towards the love for the core. The 'OpTic' oldschool side of the group died it's death many months ago, which is a real shame - but perhaps this is a chance for you guys as a collective group/family to grow into something bigger and better. Love the content my dudes.

[@OhnoSoV]

I'm rockin with y'all as long as you guys upload any kind of content

[@Scho_]

Will always support the og Optic guys. Especially being from NC, Hitch will always be the boy!

[@A-he5zs]

As sad or "negative" this was, this was one of the most entertaining episodes because it was really informative and really helps us understand what is happening with optic

[@landendelormier7954]

Hecz got his bag he don’t give af he’s happy as hell LOL

[@109-r1e]

Hecz has people he answers to now. He definitely ain't happy. He'll be fine when it goes up in smoke unlike the rest of these guys. But hector definitely ain't happy about being told what he can and can't do.

[@Drropzdrropz]

Why would he be happy they destroyed optic by they I mean the higher ups. The apartments are probably the worst idea they ever had then the house is way too small for them like they had to build there own gym in the kitchen. They don’t appreciate what they got and the guys are seeing this. Sad time I really miss the old days of optic. Chicago optic.

[@dozaroner642]

@@109-r1e if all these cats aren't saving there money is their own damb fault hecz aint to blame

[@109-r1e]

Ain't nobody blaming hecz for these dudes' situation.

[@mannyperez5715]

Reminds me of Thor Ragnarok Asgard is not a place it’s the people Optic isn’t a great brand without its people.

[@stevenlojko7364]

I personally think everyone in the house and so on is watched and liked for their personality more than the optic name. Yes, that may introduce some people but a majority watch you two and everyone else for the content you produce. I've been watching forever now and nothing is going to change that whether you guys are on optic, 100T, or on your own.

[@dfrm139]

The difference I see between you guys and courage is that Jack knew he was on optic for a year and he did what he had to do for the brand but worked twice as hard on his own brand. That being said all together he worked 3 times as hard as other content creators. No one is even on time for optic gaming videos still...one simple step to have negotiations with corporate would be to show up on time to the few mandatory things

[@JCC_creations]

Hell yeah we would still listen. The real optic fans are for the content team, not for the brand that you guys are a part of.

[@kniqhtso5411]

No one would keep with the new optic, everyone would just follow you guys as long as you all stayed together

[@davidwallace7576]

I will always liste to you guys no matter what. Thank you for clearing all this up for the true fans. I will follow both of you wherever things end up. You guys made my days and nights with your videos and it’s sad to see what the organization came to. Just know I’ll always be a fan!

[@squeeze511]

48:00. That’s right. You need a “dope ass house”. Look at 100T pad now. It just helps the team!

[@markcampos9790]

I would still listen/watch flycast is 🔥🔥🔥

[@voe3023]

rewatching these cuz i miss you NIAC💙

[@tylersvetlik5905]

Corporate came in to the eSports scene because they saw Hecz doing well in the space and they wanted to take what he built and make money off of it. The problem with that is they don’t have any experience in the space and they muted the voices who know the space and know what it takes to be successful. It’s sad to see, and I hope everything works out for all of the content creators and players who have built Optic. You guys will always have a fan base so maybe this is a blessing in disguise, we’ll just have to wait to see how it plays out.

[@Thet8ersalad]

You guys are OpTic, with or without the word in your names!

[@d0nald156]

optic going from scuffed house to scuffed

[@abelalonzo8795]

I expect the next flycast to have Hecz

[@mlr975]

Hitch, wish you would start your own team/brand. I know TST is a thing but it would be legit to see you be the absolute boss with others under your wing.

[@iAmKingAxiS]

Shout out to Sean Ranklin! Big ups Liquid Richard!

[@doughbizzie5]

Look here listen

[@xXDarkAgentOneXx]

You guys are some of the funniest people on KZbin. You goddamn right I'm still watching.

[@HolyWords]

My question the whole time is how are these guys openly talking and posting this - exposing the weaknesses within OpTic, upper management, and the team as a whole, knowing they could see it? Maybe in a hope something would change? It's sad to see the brand going to this. I'm a fan of all the franchise - COD team, content creators, Gears, halo guys - seen you guys grow together and be a family and can tell for a while now that's changed. It's the pursuit of money boys that is the root of all evils. When you put money before people you lose all decency and the end result is unsatisfied and discouraged employees and team members and stuff like this. I really pray and hope you guys can work together and come together once again. OpTic is not like the others!

[@pizay2201]

100 % I've never watched any person because of the org or relations, purely on if I like their videos or not. For you guys, I absolutely love yall. you guys could make your own org, be orgless, or whatever but you can bet your ass ill be sitting here watching flycasts or whatever either of you upload the second I see them on the youtube home page.

[@juantrejo750]

No BS, I got into OpTic because of you guys, so best believe I'm leaving with you guys

[@ImThe5thKing]

I got into Optic when they won Champs in 2011 but I stay because of these 2 and Big Willy

[@aaronmercer96]

you two will always have the green wall, Whether you have optic or not. all the best boys hope this works out for you

[@Genome69420]

its crazy to think of optic a couple a years ago to now. sheesh

[@RuggerJug]

My listening no matter what. We watch for YOU GUYS, your personalities. We ain't ever leaving gangLove

[@JoshBrown190]

I’ll be a fan of the two you whatever happens, you’re my boys.

[@elveplays]

Hitch hit it spot on things probably could of been easier of more people uploaded make the best of it. But another good podcast feel like interm of content hitch amazing job holding the front everyone else feel like they gave up I guess on “optic”

[@elveplays]

Hitch also have team summer time which I hope blows up prob why he is creating still pushing everyone else though no idea what’s going on

[@King-EA.93]

If you’re dropped You all should all invest in yourselves Get a dope house & create content the way you think and want it to be done Optic will go under if they do get rid of you guys Optic used to be the shit and now its just barely floating to get by

[@kirkblonien3164]

I’ve got 3 buddies that have had that shit done and they are loving it! Tell Hitch to either take that hat off or pull that shit down!

[@cynthiaramirez4987]

Keep up the good work guys i used to be here for optic but now im here for you guys.

[@Laag_]

Normally, when I listen to podcasts I'm doing something else. This one is just enjoyable to sit back and watch lol

[@ConsistentImprovement]

Can you guys get on Spotify please? It hurts my data and battery to be on yt but I love the podcast

[@Blainsky]

The fly cast can be broken down into two categories. Hitch talking about how optics changed so much and maniac agreeing. And then talking about ninja or someone else lol.

[@JJCoxUTube]

- You need to start thinking a little like the suits you are now working for and realize what power you bring to the table not only as individuals but also as a group. Also understands he business. Suits like to think of their employees just as a commodity. They treat their employees like they do the desk in their office. You need to realize that they are not the only business in the market and so do you all as a group. I’m a;most positive if you approach a business like 100T as a group package they would move like lightening to welcome you all aboard. Heck, I’m positive Nade would even set you guys back up in Chicago if that was something you guys wanted. You guys all need to pull together as a group select a leader (like BigT) and start start putting your collective foot down and all be willing to walk if necessary. Each and everyone of you are as much OpTic as are the current active teams. 100T Chicago

[@tannerwoods6114]

Hate to say it but the content team getting cut would make sense. Very few of them actually create regular content in terms of videos and streaming.

[@MrConnormiles]

Tanner Woods agreed

[@dentyph5169]

only hitch is on that grind

[@GrimRony]

My niggas. Ofc I’m gonna stay. The way I see it. You guys are youtubers who happen to be in optic.

[@GRAVEGAMING]

Would still watch you guy's if things change. I am in my mid 30s and I started watching you all long ago. It would be odd for you all to not be in optic, but I would still watch no matter what.

[@terpenator93]

smoking CBD flower and wax right now... lets goooo