What's Next for Luigi Mangione? | Closing Arguments with Vinnie Politan

[@CourtTV]

00:00 Closing Arguments with Vinnie Politan 05:16 Indictment Breakdown - Cody On the Case 11:38 Mangione Charged with Terrorism - Think Tank 21:22 Shooting of Brian Thompson - Background 32:50 Wisconsin School Shooter Natalie Rupnow #CourtTV What do YOU think? #LuigiMangione #VinniePolitan MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/brian-thompson/?

[@GRMLS5]

He is not a hero!

[@_ARi_MAC]

Vinnie, how exactly was Luigi supposed to use his wealth to help the countless amount of people being denied life saving treatment from these greedy health insurance companies? Where is the outrage for how these health insurance companies take money from people and pick who gets to live or die as if they are “God”.

[@GRMLS5]

So you advocate murder to solve this problem? Ok...he murdered the CEO...has that solved the problem?

[@AngelChristinaaa]

My sister was paying over $300 a month for her child’s insurance and at 3 yrs old the health insurance denied her a life saving treatment. Even the nurses were crying and the doctor looked defeated. She died a horrific death that took months to kill her. My sis had to make the decision to remove her feeding and hydration lines because starving and lack of water was a quicker death than the issue she had.

[@Pray4USA]

😭😭😭I am so sorry for your sister and your family!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@kimberlyhacker3334]

I am so sorry.

[@Elegan_te]

@@AngelChristinaaa so sorry to hear ❤️

[@anaperez-lx4wj]

So sorry to hear this, but we have not right to kill a person!

[@Juke582]

Liar!

[@liziuhh]

Maybe not a hero, but you cant deny that this action really brought the conversation of greedy healthcare into focus more than it ever has

[@economobserv]

He is a Hero

[@300sl5]

@@economobserv You are scum

[@liziuhh]

​@economobserv that was more directed at Vinnie since he said "he is NOT a hero"

[@jesusisgod4992]

The hero will be the person(s) who fix the healthcare system. ​@@economobserv

[@alexshirley6096]

You just don’t get it

[@cinamingrl]

So the reason he’s got the 2nd indictment of terrorism is that a whole bunch of other CEO’s are scared?

[@blueclover9918]

Exactly

[@michelleg4069]

Yup!

[@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr]

The argument is he used terror to get a class of people to do his bidding.

[@nixwestlake9196]

Is united health care a unit of government? Aren’t corporations private? This privatization is the main issue because they abuse their power

[@michael7018]

What about the brazen and premeditated killing of UHC insured individuals who got denied life saving treatment? Not guilty of killing thousands give or take every single year?

[@adelaceballos3902]

It is not Luigi'sfault that people think he is a hero. it is not Luigi's fault that people hate the health system .

[@user-gz3gg9zz1h]

Yeah he gets a terrorist charge because he’s admired

[@michelleg4069]

Yeah they’re trying to make an example out of Luigi so no one else tries to copy him.

[@GRMLS5]

Yet Luigi used that hatred of the health system to murder a man, and going by what he wrote, he expected to kill more men. He wrote something so people would think he was doing great things. Yet he never named the men he intended on killing, he lumped them all together., because he had nothing against the individual men or how they operated in their jobs, just that they were high profile. So he would be high profile & celebrated as a murderer. Remember the guy who killed John Lennon? He wanted to be famous.

[@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr]

I bet he's happy with the adulation.

[@SmithLankey]

You can't tell anyone who to love or who to think of as a Hero..... American101

[@lealubiato479]

As much as I agree that he is not exactly a hero, because indeed there are many many other ways to go about this, we can't brush off the collective sentiment of intense frustration the people feel from the health care system. There is an obvious reason he has this much support.

[@kimberlyhacker3334]

Being rich doesnt mean he can't be immune to caring about the American people at large.

[@GRMLS5]

So your saying that murder is killing?

[@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr]

He didn't set up a fund to pay for patients' medical bills.

[@denny7209]

I wish all the officials were as Outraged over school shootings! But they are not Millionaire's! Who act as "God" choosing who lives and who dies. When did this happen? CORPORATE GREED...AGAIN...

[@cyrus6692]

Why not pronounce Luigi’s last name correctly after been hearing it a million times. In Italian the letter “e” is never silent! 🇮🇹

[@kat4479]

😂

[@ajcorrea10]

it is easier to say this is not the way to solve the issue when this has never happened to you or a loved one.

[@carlyj13]

Exactly

[@Juke582]

Stupid logic

[@JH-pt6ih]

​@@Juke582 Really? Why don't you break down what is wrong or stupid about the "logic." Use the simplest formulation. Don't use words if you don't know what they mean.

[@darilangone8812]

Was the CEO a ''HERO''? He allowed many people to die. Give me a break.

[@eros1806]

2:00 you talking nonsense. The revenue of some healthcare companies (like United healthcare) is much higher than many countries’s GDP out there. Someone who is just a millionaire does not stand a chance of changing a broken healthcare system that is deeply embedded in our society. The murder of that CEO actually represents a chance to sit down, talk, and implement possible changes. In my eyes, as in most Americans, Luigi is a Hero. You can keep running your mouth, but that’s not gonna change the fact that this is the first time that the healthcare companies are paying attention to us. ‘’They are indeed parasites that had it coming’’

[@jamirfilms]

You can never make me hate Luigi.

[@marneylevett3386]

The CEO could have changed also. Why is one mans life more important to the hundreds of thousands who had no voice. Badly done Vinnie.

[@blueclover9918]

Excruciatingly bad

[@kylel4527]

Stop lecturing us. We make our own minds up, not you. We think he’s a hero no matter how much you lecture and belittle us. You’re pushing us closer to him just so you know ✊☺️

[@HardLineElektron]

Agree.

[@SonjaM-v7t]

Well no one is accusing you of being bright

[@kylel4527]

@@SonjaM-v7t I dare you to make sense next time you comment 👍

[@kylel4527]

@ I dare you to make sense next time you reply to a comment 👍

[@carlyj13]

Stop trying to tell us how to feel Vinny. He gave up his privilege, power and money for everyone else.

[@user-gz3gg9zz1h]

Vinnie should preach the CEOs instead about using their privileged background to better

[@Juliana-wf8jp]

Hero!!! Hero!!! Hero!!!

[@enzienzie]

What happened to innocent until proven guilty Vinny?

[@xnichole_mariex]

I can tell neither one of these men have had to return cans in order to have money to feed their families. Yall getting all this engagement though with everyone telling yall how ridiculous you sound.

[@jamirfilms]

@@xnichole_mariex right? We need media that actually has a clue what the American people experience.

[@margiemachado4951]

If this was terrorism, what about the leader/ organizers of Jan 6th? 🤬

[@Carolinabliss50]

Oh, that was ok with society because they were defending ole Trump and he is going to give them pardons.. People died that day, if that wasn’t terrorism with all those people, nothing is🤷‍♀️

[@soulfireonfire6423]

Oh really! Why not the people who hand down the skewed requirements of what gets approved and what doesn’t. Or the people who hand down the orders to lower upper management that the denial numbers need to increase because the profit margin isn’t where it needs to be at if everyone wants their big bonuses for going along to get along .!!! But yet you bring up Jan 6th! Let it go already and move along!!! While you love along do your research and find the real truth regarding that day!!!

[@MissteryDiva]

​@@soulfireonfire6423 point is January 6 was ALSO a Terrorist act incited by tRUMP! We will NEVER "let it go & move on" what a fkd thing to say but we expect nothing more from a MAGAt

[@margiemachado4951]

@ done the research. Never letting it go. Treasonous traitors.

[@annelienel9179]

From South Africa. How on earth is this case regarded as terrorism? No. It is definitely not terrorism.

[@gmshorts419]

Funny that you dont talk about what an ass the victim was

[@300sl5]

Funny how stupid you are

[@wobblerMike]

Does this guy actually get paid for his shallow argumentations? Fire him

[@Natalie_TrueCrime]

Vinnie also gets paid to craft the most extended, most elaborate questions as if all of us-are intellectually challenged!

[@economobserv]

Doesnt matter what you say. New generation IS coming.

[@michael7018]

“It’s the yin and the yang…” 😅 oh my! Such an intellect this guy is. 😅

[@KarinaIrlandaGlezGalz]

Reform health insurance corps.

[@roscoe-xw6lj]

Luigi was off the grid for six months. I've heard it said that people don't do shootings without being influenced. I've heard people say M*Ul+ra. That is something that could explain who Luigi is. Why did he unalive this particular victim and why do violence? He was not a violent person as far as we know.

[@soulfireonfire6423]

Seems like this all started after his surgery. Which by the way according to a spine surgeon who left his career, looked at his X-rays and said out of the four screws put in his back I believe at least two were inserted incorrectly. Which can cause extreme pain. But why were they inserted incorrectly.? I think this man has every right to be opened up by a credible spine surgeon to take a good look at exactly what was done to this man during his surgery. His surgery by another spine surgeon was considered “ sub optimal” Sub optimal.. of less than the highest standard or quality. "suboptimal working conditions" The name is the channel of the former spine surgeon is Goobie and Doobie He named it that because he went on a Mental healing journey being out doors hiking etc and took his dog with him.

[@gmshorts419]

Making a lot of money Vinnie OFF this case

[@krowwnz]

“Causes” doesn’t change anything nowadays 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@once_upon_a_canopy_tree]

Place heavy reforms on the healthcare insurance company to protect U.S. citizens. Doctors should be the ones to improve surgeries ect. not CEOs but I prefer UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE FOR ALL❤

[@michael7018]

Not for you to judge or tell us who is a hero or not. Who do you think you are? He is a hero to us and there’s nothing you can do about it. This guy I mean lol😅

[@kirstenhyer7319]

He’s got the mind and the money to change things in the healthcare industry? That sounds is ridiculous. It’s not only a greed issue. It’s a political issue. Corruption and greed is solidified in the industry in and of itself. It’s an uphill endless battle of getting nowhere.

[@Carolinabliss50]

Amen!!!

[@GRMLS5]

How are these things you speak of usually dealt with in a civilization? By smart people joining politics & working to change them. Not shooting people in the back. How do terrorists get attention about some political issue? They murder with bombs or guns or trucks or planes. What do you want, anarchy or civilization?

[@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr]

He could have run for Congress or start a lobbying group or nonprofit. You don't see the options.

[@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr]

This murder also leads to nowhere.

[@IRUNU10X]

Not guilty

[@wandawells5596]

I just watched Michael Moore Sicko, WOW, smh. I don’t condone murder, but I'm sure others thought about it.

[@katuiran]

Vinnie it's Luigi Man Gio Nee. You keep mis pronouncing his last name.

[@bobo102458]

I agree murder not the answer. However, he sure brought attention to the problem that we have with our healthcare. It’s insane. I didn’t want anyone to die, but how many people have died because of his policies and his actions at UHC. 🤷‍♀️

[@brandonmuse5532]

I am sick of the media trying to convict this HERO. Btw we still don't know if he did it

[@Natalie_TrueCrime]

Vinnie has become the quintessential puppet of corporate America.

[@darilangone8812]

There will be no change. These monsters are pocketing plenty of money.

[@xnichole_mariex]

Id like to point out that everyone in poverty is cheering Luigi on, while the rich and the media call him a terrorist... we still havent found out who killed that 17 year old boy who died at the same time? WHY IS THIS MAN MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHER PEOPLES LIVES???

[@laurenk6741]

During this year especially, the media realise they can no longer control the narrative and manipulate the masses. It's a sign of desperation that they now feel the need to throw it down our throats. How can a credible news report start off by forcing us to form our opinions, if they want to be unbiased they should also report the big corps use of money and manipulation that drive millions of people to a life misery, if not unfathomable amounts of stress. All this bs needs to be called out. I can even say that without expressing any opinion of Luigi.

[@al19809]

Why are you posting every hour about him? Ridiculous.

[@MissteryDiva]

He's monetized that's why

[@zyelow]

Luigi Mangione is my hero! Difficult statements require difficult action.

[@kristineximeno6739]

HE is a Hero!!!!!

[@charliesamify]

I think this will make a load of money grabbing CEO’s rethink profit shares by letting many people suffer for the lack of life saving measures! Thank you Luigi for sacrificing your life you are a Hero regardless of what most say you had the guts to bring this to light for the masses !

[@AngelChristinaaa]

They put that terrorism so they can take away any credibility he has as an American Hero. (Because the word terrorist automatically discredits an individual) It’s overreacting and simply not true.

[@somebody701]

Lol hero though? This is the first I see any media label someone a terrorist/ who isn’t Muslim or Arab. So yup, part of their agenda.

[@GH-oi2jf]

That is a decision for a jury. The prosecutor has to prove the elements of a terrorist act.

[@user-gb5ff7gj1m]

They are doing this to show others what will happen to them if they copy Luigi . These higher ups are scared so they are doing this to make others obey.

[@Juke582]

No! It’s domestic terrorism for sure! NY is tough on crime as we see if you are a criminal there!

[@Carolinabliss50]

I had just heard the night before they couldn’t charge him with first degree unless they could prove he was working with others and then they could get him on being a terrorist. Then boom, yesterday they get nervous and overcharge him to make sure the jury at least gives him second degree. It’s all a game to make sure he still gets life but he has a good lawyer..

[@jamirfilms]

Lost my respect for vinnie now :/ unsubscribed

[@HarlequeenStudio]

took me exactly 1 min 35 sec to move on. i came for facts, not brainwashing.

[@kylel4527]

Three words for youuuu. Is. A. Hero! 😎

[@ypeacock032]

All the children erased from school: just another day 1 greedy CEO: terrorism. Really?

[@503Aquatics]

He hasn’t been tried.

[@lindatexas5906]

Obviously!

[@rajeevvasisht89]

Yeh innocent until proved guilty just like p daddy hey?

[@soupnfresh]

Commissioner Jessica Tisch's family is the 43rd richest in the United States. She's a billionaire.

[@royasharghi6582]

He is hero ❤

[@MissteryDiva]

Luigi had a botched back surgery which probably contributed to motive also maybe he knew about DOJ case against United Health Care for insider trading. If he was pain free & happy I doubt he'd leave his dream life in Hawaii. Not defending him, just observing where he's coming from. I believe he deserves prison & I feel for the victim & both families

[@DVD927]

And the insured people will be paying for the extra security via their insurance premiums.

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

Yeah, he did not reach a iota in solving any problems by his choice of action. On the contrary, he incurred more expenses for insurance companies and taxpayers.

[@user-gb5ff7gj1m]

Outrageous.

[@susanwhalls6230]

Yup

[@al19809]

Yeah they will be paying extra in security .. it's all going to be in the expense of their clients.

[@blueclover9918]

Oh that's for sure

[@carlyj13]

You are completely out of touch with the average American citizen.

[@user-gb5ff7gj1m]

Vinnie is preaching about how Luigi could make change using his background coming from a priviliged family. I wonder why Vinnie didn’t say the same words to these CEOs.

[@blueclover9918]

💯💯💯

[@blueclover9918]

Here we go again, bootlickers for your insurance company advertisers. This isn't a court show. It's now a platform for shills.

[@coolsomeXD]

Breaking news Luigi has a conversation with someone.

[@blueclover9918]

So now, you're using the "but he came from a wealthy family" angle! ! Careful, you're going to run out of angles soon! Coming from a wealthy family, and not riding on easy street for the rest of his life makes him MORE of a stand-up guy, not less. Your desperation to try to make people hate him is so obvious, transparent and palpable, it stinks. You see, the more you double down, the more everyone else will too. Totally missing the mark.

[@AngeloGargiulo-e8x]

killing is wrong. the law does not currently protect all. I would go as far as saying the Government should be sued for negligence on allowing health insurance company prioritize profit over people's wellness! Yes he was wrong for killing and the government has and is wrong for not ensuring it's citizens were not being denied much needed health aid

[@Natalie_TrueCrime]

Well put.

[@NewyorkkittykatT.N.R]

He's so good looking but he definitely looks different after the back surgery

[@kaylaread8048]

Maybe Mangione used some kind of ruse to call Thompson to meet him outside the hotel. Maybe Mangione had Thompson on the Phone. The Magione's are in the healthcare business. Maybe they knew the health insurance CEOs. Digital Forensic will reveal this, if it was so. Just a thought.

[@robertoconnor6894]

Sorry vinnie Canada here and he is a hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@clueken13]

I think what he did was wrong but I do hope all CEOs take notice and start giving some thought to how their customers might feel about their business practices. I think it is important to treat people the way you would want to be treated. Don’t be greedy and maybe don’t murder people because it didn’t solve anything. If anything, things are going to get so much worse. This world is a horrible place.

[@Juke582]

They won’t!!! Congress already been hammering them in hearings about their practices! Little change! Just denials

[@clueken13]

@ I knew it…I bet this will only give them more power and more control. It’s so sad man…I don’t think most people are evil but there are evil people in power. There is evil that is hurting us and we need to hold them accountable. Murder is NOT the answer…but we got to fix this because we all matter. I want to help you if I can help you. I want to be a force for good in this world.

[@clueken13]

@ I hope things change for the better. I would give of myself to make things better. I like to believe most of us would too. I believe most people are wonderful and I think everyone deserves the opportunity to change for the better. I’m sad that dude died but I hope we can be better because of it. I feel bad for feeling any sort of pleasure from someone else’s misfortune. That is evil and I’m ashamed of that feeling. Please forgive me and peace be with you.

[@Natalie_TrueCrime]

Health corporations impose a significant strain on doctors as well. No wonder noone wants to go to med school.

[@Therapistmind]

Let’s be real! he alone no matter how much money or intelligence can change healthcare or the CEO who was a criminal in his own way

[@whitneywhitney8356]

How exactly can one change the system? It’s been bad forever. Good people have been trying to change it for years! Everywhere I look people are rooting for him. Thankfully I haven’t been completely screwed yet by the system but I’ve been screwed some. And I know many that have been. By the comments lots of people have been screwed. Jury nullification could happen. Also, if you think that our healthcare system isn’t ran by the government already you are sadly mistaken.

[@BaronetJudah]

I find it strange they would have such an extensive communication about him falling into the porn addiction when supposedly his back was so bad that he couldn't have any kind of sexual intimacy according to CJ...looks like another discrepancy in stories...

[@huevo8508]

I like him what matter you say I don’t like your

[@Toxic-qi6sb]

He is a hero for poor people because they’re going to change the way they do things at the healthcare place so he is a hero for poor people not you rich people

[@CristinaSantos-pw4pt]

Free Luigi

[@dakenny1282]

The disintegration of these companies owned pharmaceutical assets, finally getting some attention begs to differ. No one that's not an already heavily criticized ceo was feeling terrorized by this man. Even when he was loose. Now we're just dimishing all other actual terrorism acts that the main stream is afraid to call that bc of who the villain was. Not to mention actual murder victims, especially all those with unsolved cases in NYC. What's their solve rate for regular murders again?... I forget😂😂 embarrassing is what it is for you here, and them

[@cyrus6692]

Why is commissioner wearing a space suit?

[@cinamingrl]

I thought it looked like that was because maybe she got caught in the rain and didn’t have time to dry off.

[@cyrus6692]

@@cinamingrl😂😂😂

[@Natalie_TrueCrime]

She doesn’t even realize this isn't the right occasion for a shiny velvet coat.

[@DerrickCarter-007]

My Robinhood!!

[@robertcoane9167]

I really don't need your preaching. I want information and legal analysis. Otherwise you're just as much a rabble-rouser as any tik-toker. I'm out of here💨

[@brycecounts3168]

Hero

[@aceball7076]

Who is the person at 20:19 standing on the right at the time of the shooting? Luigi had 'inside' help in this crime.

[@Juke582]

That was a lady bystander who ran for her life dummy!

[@Carolinabliss50]

That was a woman drinking coffee and they already talked to her. There were also people inside 2 of those vehicles parked on the curb cause the lights were on..

[@chrismitchell9338]

Let's hope for a few jurors who feel the same.

[@myunknownland9272]

Never let him out. Celebrating murder is shocking!!!

[@LynnH4081]

I love Vinnie but feel the coverage on Mangione is very one sided. It's terrible someone has been killed and he should face the full consequences but Court TV isn't talking about the American healthcare crisis which this crime has a lot of people talking about. Feel there is a bigger picture to all this and cries for change to healthcare/insurance.

[@Natalie_TrueCrime]

I’m frustrated w/ Vinnie; he’s starting to remind me of Nancy Grace.

[@bethhull1132]

It's the first time anyone has ever done this. Steven Spielberg wishes he thought about this scenario.

[@myunknownland9272]

No excuse! He is wealthy!!! No excuse for murder!!!

[@Natalie_TrueCrime]

@Court TV- incorporate clips of doctors whose authorizations are questioned.

[@LisaMitchellGD]

Jessica Tisch is so annoying. Is she really the most qualified person for this position?

[@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr]

Eff the guy who compared him to MLK. Surely, we can agree that is ridiculous, right?

[@meat_man33]

LUIGI IS A LEGEND

[@cathybowman3004]

The support for this act is very sad to me. That is not what our country is about. Is it that really the country we want to live in? An intelligent and passionate young man like this one could have chosen better and creative ways to influence the laws of the country to improve access to health care. He could have been a true hero. But not like this. Murder is never the answer.

[@katiaramirez1766]

Innocent until proven guilty…

[@vaniatruckerusa5253]

I keep saying this that Luigi had the money, education, connections and power to bring change in a good way. Now all he did was make insurance companies increase their security measures and instigate a closer monitoring of citizens with this incident as an excuse. I knew Vinnie would be talking about how Luigi had the resources and ability to bring real substantial change, an impact that would matter to the unprivileged ones and in a civilized manner without vengeance and a crime. Noone has mentioned this btw and I have watched countless vids. I love CourtTV. Acts of terrorism don't foster real change - they just make the companies more punishing and stubborn. EDIT - omg Vinnie even pointed out what I keep saying that all we get out of this is extra security for CEOs. Yeap, that's all. Terrorism and extortion never provoke change, but the opposite.

[@maureenburke3312]

Look who is speaking. First, get out of your parent's basement, and then we can see where you stand.

[@chrismitchell9338]

You weren't this mad when Trump got let loose. Only Luigi gets a trial.

[@chrismitchell9338]

Luigi is my hero.

[@jinglejazz7537]

I feel sorry for this young man, yes he killed someone. he had so much promise, he had knowledge of the healthcare system, something made him act. Look at the support he's received. the system is screwed. This terrorist game is going to be thrown out. As we know the rich throw money at it and it will go away. The victim, CEO was also a victim of the system. He worked for a company that is legal to operate in the USA. so much support against the system the system needs to change.

[@2012MyVideos2012]

I would like to know if any of those "influencers" work from 8am to 5 pm six days a week.

[@markedwards4443]

Wasted his life

[@subarianEra]

Hero.

[@JamieHayes6982]

Was he gay?

[@soupnfresh]

Don't think so.

[@Juke582]

Who knows! Incel maybe

[@cinamingrl]

Nah

[@chrismitchell9338]

We ❤ Luigi

[@kirsty3253]

Luigi can posture himself directly into the New York state definition of that crimeYou are done boyo and the evidence lies in the glorification of these people admiring the crim