We were able to resolve the stem wobble that we talked about in this video. Here's the update: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXqqkqOancZqeNU
@skeletronmw3 жыл бұрын
That doesn't say what the adjustment was.
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
After releasing this review, we've had many people reach out to us, letting us know that they have never had any stem wobble issues. We think we may have a faulty screw because most users have not experienced any stem wobble after hundreds and thousands of miles on their Mantis. Some users also tell us that applying some blue Loctite will resolve the issue. We want to let you know that we do not consider the scooter is unsafe. We were simply showing you the stem wobble issue is easy to fix by adjusting that screw. Most single stem scooters have some type of stem wobble and need adjusting occasionally like the ZERO 10X, Apollo Pro, and Turbowheel Lightning. We did hear back from the manufacturer about the silicone mat not being completely glued down. They say they do that intentionally in case you ever have to open up the compartment that stores the battery and controller. They glue it up to the edge of the cover and screws, so you don't have to rip the silicone mat if you ever have to access the compartment. You can apply some double-sided tape or use adhesive spray to resolve the issue if it annoys you.
@BlueVotr3 жыл бұрын
I bought the SE and have zero complaints. Thing is a beast. The off-road tires are an option. You can have Voro Motors put them on or you can put them on yourself. Wide/Extended fenders can be purchased with the larger off-road tires. Never noticed a wobbly stem eventhough I've done and continue to do a ton of off-roading with the SE. Took it for a 20 mile ride in the gold country here in Northern CA and it was just flawless. The "cons" are minor at most.
@Vosovogalsyncope2 жыл бұрын
Where in norcal are you? I have a group we roll with in Folsom, Elk Grove and surrounding areas.
@averett1495 Жыл бұрын
Hey man can you give an update on the status of the scooter? I just bought one and have some issues like brakes scraping against calipers, i fixed it but not sure for 100% i still hear weird clicking then braking. Also, at speed, tires wobble i dont know what it is, while i ride it i doesn't feel it, but without my weight on, suspended in air, its very noticeable and shake the whole scooter. I really hope its shitty tires and not the off center hub.
@marierosellev3 жыл бұрын
Yeah my favorite feature of the Kaboo Mantis Pro.SE is the torque for climbing steep off road terrain and the full hydraulic disc brakes. Did you point out the full hydraulic disc brakes at $1899 compared to the other brands where it will end up to $2200+ if you add that full hydraulic disc brakes which got me sold on Mantis Pro SE.
@GingerOnWheels3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out! Interesting that your Mantis has the issue with the wiggly stem. Mine is still rock solid. I imagine if you get some blueloctite on that stem screw that it would stop magically screwing itself while you ride 👍
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
You're a wealth of knowledge! That's why we love your channel and wanted to give you a shout out.
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
It's important to check out several knowledgeable sources for information before consumers make a conclusion about these scooters. You are a great resource! Thanks for all you do!
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
I will add some Loctite and see if that fixes the issue. My other friend did mention the same thing about the stem. Maybe it's an isolated incident and just my bolt.
@JULIANysuHOHNER3 жыл бұрын
Is this the 18.2ha battery version??
@albandrejaj3 жыл бұрын
Mantis is the best scooter
@Mark-jw4yf3 жыл бұрын
ethan really is on thin ice right now 😤
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
He's always on thin ice!
@strykerf27q19833 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have 2 mantises and a wolf king My mantis stems are rock solid and have been from day one. Just so everyone knows voro motor is not the only dealer of the gold mantis. E scooter store has a better Cheaper newer version of this scooter I ordered A black one from them but it took a month to get hear from China but it had upgraded tires and fenders the gold One from voro motors didn’t. I love my gold Se mantis but the black one I got is much nicer because of these upgrades. So maybe now voro is getting the newer version in but be aware of this if your looking to buy one the tires and fenders with logo make a huge difference they Make the scooter look way better and it feels much better as far as the contact you feel with the road.
@Fullblown6713 жыл бұрын
How’s the customer service like with the E Scooter Store? How long is their warranty?
@strykerf27q19833 жыл бұрын
@@Fullblown671 there great I’m not sure about the warranty
@TravelingThruLife3 жыл бұрын
Is it pronounced kaboo? Well done guys as always.
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
You can blame me for that. I've always called it that way since my friend introduced me to the Wolf Warrior 11+ . My friend pronounced it is kaa-boo instead of kaa--bow. It is technically pronounced kaa-bow. And then Jimmy learned the wrong pronunciation from me. 😂
@sv_surron3 жыл бұрын
What's the difference beetwen this SE version and the Kaabo Mantis Pro from Fluid Free Ride? Anyone know? beside the light and gold accents (cosmetic)
@lindsaygreen51023 жыл бұрын
Squirrel!
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
Love this!
@RCDevotee3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I had a Mantis that I sold after picking up the Dualtron Compact. I enjoyed the Mantis. I agree with all the pluses and minuses you identified. The rubber deck is not great especially once it gets wet. I uses upholstery contact spray on glue to keep it down. I would have eventually added grip tape if I had kept the scooter. The wobble is not great. I minimized it by adjusting that same bolt and using blue loctite to keep it in place. I added the aftermarket rear fender to improve the wet weather protection. I also think there should be a folding handlebar option to further minimize its footprint. My Dualtron handlebar folds and it is much easier to carry in a trunk or deal with on public transportation.
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
More great insight! Thanks Robert!
@blueszymanners89 Жыл бұрын
Can you use the vsett 10+ folding handle bars on this scooter?
@ibibleflop3 жыл бұрын
will you be reviewing the 2022 model? they added 5 more mph, a headlight, and turn blinkers
@Jason-xc1qi3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Jimmy...! 👍 I just purchased a Dualtron Storm and love it so far the lights are lacking compared to the Wolf and I installed a Ravemen PR1600 bike light with remote switch for the safety factor keeping both hands on the handlebars.
@YourAubsome3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Its interesting that the two of you pronounce Kaabo differently than others I've heard... I'm not sure which is the correct pronunciation
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
You can blame me for that. I've always called it that way since my friend introduced me to the Wolf Warrior 11+ . My friend pronounced it is kaa-boo instead of kaa--bow. It is technically pronounced kaa-bow. And then Jimmy learned the wrong pronunciation from me. 😂
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
It's a regional accent. 😜
@esterasturdivant79563 жыл бұрын
I gave a thumbs up to support you and Andrew. Great vid. Getting the phantom soon when it comes out
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you! Let us know what you think of the Phantom!
@esterasturdivant79563 жыл бұрын
@@freshlycharged of course when I get it ill let you know my problems with it if any and the pros
@thesolojourney89552 жыл бұрын
I had P7 set on 5, Eco mode on and Single wheel mode on and someone said the scooter is slow so I told them hold one. I set P7 to 0 , Turbo mode on and Dual wheel mode activated and it launched like a rocket and scared them hahahahahaahahahah 40MPH and they got off of it and said holy shit. 😎
@kkurien233 жыл бұрын
Maybe try adding some threadlocker blue to that stem screw? Sounds like it's popping back in from vibrations
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insight. We were thinking the same thing since so many have told us they had zero issues with the stem.
@NOFATCHICK13 жыл бұрын
I got the 2022 model it comes with a usable bright headlight, horn and turn signals. This scooter is thrilling I love it.
@Joe_Veno3 жыл бұрын
Such a shame these manufacturers can't get the details like proper gluing down of the silicone mat! Fenders that ACTUALLY work, a stem that doesn't need constant tightening or tweaking. I know they are not major things BUT when you shell out your hard earned money you should NOT have to fix stuff on a brand new item! Thanks for the honest reviews. I got a Ninebot Max for my wife because I didn't want to deal with all the little issues the competition seems to have. I know this scooter is not in the same class (that wasn't the point) but when I bought the Ninebot I was confident it would just work proper out of the box (and so far has). I think these PEV manufacturers would do themselves a lot of justice if they would send test units out for feedback AND THEN FIX the issues that are reported BEFORE they release them to the masses.
@Goodman-45253 жыл бұрын
That's the problem with the scooter EUC and eSkate market. It's so small all of us are basically beta testers, since people still pay up despite these flaws. Besides you can't deny the battery tech inside these machines are remarkable
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words and comment. I understand where you are coming from. Two of my good friends have mentioned they have never had a stem issue, so I'm not sure if it's our screw. Unfortunately, I have found about 90% of fenders don't do their job. Even on the VSETT 10+, it has a rear fender that doesn't protect from sprays. Where the VSETT 11+ is an excellent tire hugger. For the silicone mat, I think the main reason they dont glue it all down is in case you need to access the battery compartment. It is sealed all the way to the edge of where the screws are at.
@bepriceless3 жыл бұрын
made in China, they don't care.
@mattt30633 жыл бұрын
This is a downgraded mantis pro. The battery is smaller. Dont trust ginger either he ignored it too.
@Citizensound3 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@dave94472 жыл бұрын
I tried to order an ebike after thinking about it over a year and fed ex could not get it delivered to my house. I tried telling them to deliver it after five when i got off work and they wouldn't do it. If you are an ebike company i would think about using a different company to ship your ebikes. They only use a call center in India as there customer service. You can not speak directly to a FedEx representative. They are terrible at getting a package delivered to there customer, beware. Now they are saying the label is scratched and it can not be scanned. i can not even go pick it up. I should of had it almost a week ago. Now it has to go all the way back to the warehouse.
@dbbuster12383 жыл бұрын
Cool video! would you recommend the Kaabo mantis pro se or the Apollo Ghost? I'm having trouble trying to decide which one to buy
@JanM883 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Fastest Electric Scooters in the World: According to Real Data Updated March 2021: the Apollo Phantom Ludicrous earns a spot on our fastest electric scooters leaderboard. We live in an unprecedented time, when much of the world enjoys unregulated access to ridiculously fast electric scooters. Every month, newer, faster, extreme scooters arrive within grasp of scooter-loving mortals like us. This is a period of time that’s likely to pass by almost as quickly as the scooters themselves. So if you’re going to choose one, it may be best to get it done in 2021.
@lindsaygreen51023 жыл бұрын
Some blue thread locker would help with that screw. Make sure its light strength.
@0riginal4me Жыл бұрын
you guys should review the Teverun Blade Mini Pro :D i think you would love it :D
@jamieniche2 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand the "special edition" it's less power and smaller battery than the standard one.
@NCLme10 ай бұрын
Do you think the SE is as close to the Apollo Phantom or do you think the Phantom is a better buy
@mrreddington777 Жыл бұрын
Great video but whomever thought it was awesome to have their website on the side like that should be fired.
@mikey-o00793 жыл бұрын
Nice review - thanks guys!
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@philliplawson97242 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the scooter and stop worrying about the coyote, lol
@Energine12 жыл бұрын
Wow what an incredibly poorly engineered stem hinge.
@hyrulemasterchef95732 жыл бұрын
So is it “Kah-bow” … “ka-boo”… or kah-boo?
@edermastarreno42842 жыл бұрын
Hi is look nice scooter but my cuestión they r water proof in the rain ho not
@morawa19872 жыл бұрын
I bought a mantis 8 plus from 2021 a few days ago and I have exactly the same problem with the swinging stick. As if the bolt connecting the hinge was slightly too long. Interesting that the seller did a zero check and it was ok, he let me drive. The horn also does not work. Thanks for the video, now at least I know it's not an isolated model.
@Goodman-45253 жыл бұрын
I can't help but notice you missed out the video on the Vsett 8
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
Great observation! We will be releasing that soon.
@Goodman-45253 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-vt4jt aw nice! I'm torn between the 8 and the 9+ rn so I wanna know of the 8 is enough for my use (I kinda wanted the 8+ but dual solid tyres sound a bit sketch in my mind)
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodman-4525 are you in the US? I don't belive the US vendors will be carrying the 8+ but I do agree that having one air tire is nice. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to ask. I love the 9+ and would choose it over the 8. However, it just depends on your budget.
@Goodman-45253 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-vt4jt nah I'm in the UK so it's just the 8 and 9+ available. 8+ is just something to consider. I don't need the top speed but I'd appreciate the hill climbing ability. Outside of hills I'll just go 30kph max so the 8 is fast enough, but I want the pneumatic tyres and disc brakes cause I can swap to mountain bike ones which are so much better than what you guys use
@randomname9312 жыл бұрын
how is the lake frozen over but you guys are in tshirts?
@gdog14432 жыл бұрын
Beautiful setting, Where are you?
@Lee-nq5om3 жыл бұрын
Starts talking about Random shit while I'm being shown how to adjust stem
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
When you see a coyote waking on ice, you have to stop and admire the beauty of wildlife. I show you how to adjust it later on in the video.
@Lee-nq5om3 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-vt4jt thanks 😊
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
I have a short attention span. We show how to adjust the stem later in the video.
@Lee-nq5om3 жыл бұрын
@@freshlycharged shall I delete comment 🤔😐
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
@@Lee-nq5om nah. Just leave it. Coyotes on ice and friendly internet banter is the spice of life! 😁
@420man3 жыл бұрын
GET OFF THE THIN ICE!!!
@austieoutdoors97632 жыл бұрын
i don,t know i can,t bring myself to like the mantis but good review guys by the way only had my new scooter just over a week now and with it going 31 mph i thought its time i got a helmet and just picked one up on e,bay its a LS2 MX456 helmet hope i have made a good choice
@sotiroudispanagiotis28533 жыл бұрын
Greetings guys!!!
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. You are by far the best electric scooter rider I watch!
@sotiroudispanagiotis28533 жыл бұрын
Always king my friend, thank you very much!
@marshapelo98302 жыл бұрын
The stem wobble is a big problem.
@JJ-sb6gs2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice review !! Where can I get the helmet you are wearing ? (Black/yellow) @ 8:15 ?
@Quepasaaqui7183 жыл бұрын
Kid may fall thru the ice but he has his helmet on and that’s important SAFETY FIRST LMFAO
@ihatebasketball93 жыл бұрын
just ordered mine an hour ago. I put you down as the reason i pulled the trigger for it :P
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@schlooonginator12272 жыл бұрын
Rather than adjust that bolt to eliminate wobble, I would just buy any small rubber bumper or sticker sided feet from a dollar store and stick that in there to take up that space. It would last longer and dampen some vibration also.
@gadgetsandrevs6663 жыл бұрын
So stoked to review this!
@spencer24803 жыл бұрын
Could you do a review on the nanrobot lightning? I'm considering getting that, as its cheaper, has dual 800 watt motors, both solid wide wheel tires, can install a seat, and max is 30mph which is great as I live in the city.
@tommi75543 жыл бұрын
23 miles single charge? Yeah, doesn't sound what they promise in the spec sheet.. otherwise this might be must have.
@kygnonkone12782 жыл бұрын
hey I not sure witch one to get between kaabo mantis pro and the appollo phantom ? can u help me with ur expert view
@silbernersurfer82642 жыл бұрын
Someone should make a ABS test. Is it working properly and effective?
@helboundking2 жыл бұрын
The Best Scooter!!!
@starkalarm3 жыл бұрын
Are the blue lights and the thicker motors going to be on all the new mantis pros? It’s not something special for Voro motors? That would be strange. I understand the gold is unique to voro. I also see the max weight has increased to 149 kilo from the 120 kilo. Is that unique somehow to the voro motors edition or is that how it is now for all new mantis pro’s?
@maddoxegart4973 жыл бұрын
Hey jimmy, been wanting a OneWheel but can’t really afford one. I was wondering if you could review the ‘float wheel’ which is supposedly supposed the be a DIY alternative to the OneWheel, that I could (and most) can afford.
@Ryansorenson992 жыл бұрын
Thank god for this review on there site they say 45mph so I will just get a varla at that top speed
@vladimator18423 жыл бұрын
It is a great scooter and all, also very sleek looking which I like, but for the price it's stated at, I wished it came standard with some headlights damn it, and an electronic horn perhaps?? Judging from the looks and the design, you can easily tell that it's a street racer type scooter and it pretty much covers that spectrum really well
@andrewmartin64043 жыл бұрын
Great review I just picked one up 3 days ago. So far I love it. I haven't noticed any wobble with the stem.
@rojifox13863 жыл бұрын
Just got mine last night so far so good (It’s actually second as one was being returned and stolen but let’s not bring that up) I may have to test out the break change as the default is kind of weird but I’ll keep the default on for a while and see. Thanks for all the info!
@Pepuskhan2 жыл бұрын
Look a coyote
@Simonisms3 жыл бұрын
Blue led lights are illegal on any vehicle in my country (Australia) because the police use blue lights.
@energyrecoveryinc.1157 Жыл бұрын
model 182
@coolshariq3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review👍 kaabo Mantis pro are well built machine.
@albandrejaj3 жыл бұрын
That was the worst breaking I've ever seen. With or without abs
@HearturMind3 жыл бұрын
Can you roll when folded? That is pretty heavy! Is it tube tires or rubber tires?
@Sheisintomalakasdino3 жыл бұрын
that stem needs a redesign
@-joo30333 жыл бұрын
Nah its fine...
@misael.design3 жыл бұрын
Is road test comparison between vsett 11+ and Zero 11x coming soon?
@youjib3 жыл бұрын
i have heard it's noisy around 18km/h is that true?
@seanjohnfits2 жыл бұрын
Kaa-bu? Kaa-boo?
@OcculiMortis3 жыл бұрын
The VSET scooters in your other reviews seem much more durable.
@danielalvarez10783 жыл бұрын
Is this scooter better than the inokim oxo?
@primeapm26543 жыл бұрын
Who else thought he was just dippin his feet in? 7:46
@floydb91003 жыл бұрын
beautiful scooter but poorly constructed
@garyandpattyworley68323 жыл бұрын
The 3in tires are way better than the 2.5.
@rojifox13863 жыл бұрын
Wondering how you got the speed up?
@aks13v353 жыл бұрын
The Mantis is a joke again...
@tonyp.87213 жыл бұрын
Why?
@aks13v353 жыл бұрын
@@tonyp.8721 why? Did you even watched the video? Stem woble.
@108mtsan3 жыл бұрын
My mantis pro has zero stem wobble
@microsoft16653 жыл бұрын
Useless front and rear mudguards
@illuminatedperspectives28942 жыл бұрын
I CANT WAIT TO GET THIS THING
@casperbrask84293 жыл бұрын
any way of getting this in the EU?
@msntung3 жыл бұрын
is this better than the Pro version?
@AndrewMarhefka3 жыл бұрын
Cherry creek looks cold
@mespinosa13 жыл бұрын
Free range kid lol 😂
@JeanGixxer3 жыл бұрын
I have never seen Mantis with white LED 🤔
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
You will see the white light in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6qrpYePbKeKgas
@hyw0793 жыл бұрын
Those aren't minor issues. Looks like they just threw that thing together. You should not recommend this at all.
@Andrew-vt4jt3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to tell because two close friends of mine with a 1000 miles on the new stem have said they had never had stem wobble issues. So I'm not sure if I just have a faulty bolt. I am glad they increased the motor size because there were issues of sheared bolts due to bolts coming loose. I do wish Kaabo would use Loctite on their bolts which is annoying. However, most of the scooter companies do not use Loctite.
@turkeysandwich27793 жыл бұрын
Would a beginner struggle to ride at 30+ mph?
@freshlycharged3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't go over 20 until after having a lot of experience. Just keep it in second great until ready.