What's the best water based gloss paint - Crown Fast Flow Gloss?

[@jackwardley3626]

the crown is a hybrid alkyd resin says in the data sheet you would have to make do with one coat of gloss other wise you would lose a lot work

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Brushes wash out fine. Do you lose work for putting two top coats on?

[@jackwardley3626]

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 top coats yes especially on full interiors and exteriors

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

@@jackwardley3626 we quote the job and that's the spec. Not lost anything from putting two top coats on. :)

[@jackwardley3626]

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator really phil you never lost work when yourve to put priced three coats on facias sofits etc a job where you 10-20 sashes with three coats etc and these hybrids i find you need to leave them as long oil anyway a lot of the time

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

@@jackwardley3626 thankfully we don't work for people penny pitching. The spec is the spec. If they say someone is cheaper ... But is it the same spec? If it needs two top coats it gets two top coats.

[@gerardoneillhandpaintedkit9714]

Nice finish Phil I’ve used all the top brands Caparol scuffx & fast flow for the money is excellent love your videos 👍👍

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Glad you like them!

[@imantsminix3431]

like this brushe!

[@MarkClifford-fh9ip]

It is hybrid, after a days glossing you do need a bit of clean spirit but it's no brush killer.

[@PBYM79]

Showing my age now Phil but I remember many years ago a Leyland Rep trying to get me onto the w/b. It was a product called Acrylux, I distinctly remember him telling me due to the nature of acrylic paints they'll suck back into the u/c and so to "build up" the level of sheen with as many coats as you can manage. W/b has come a very long way since then but wherever possible I try to do at least 3 x top coats if I'm working with the gloss.

[@wokinghamdecoratingservice891]

Thanks for taking the time to do this review Phil. Like you, I'm not a massive fan of water based glosses, but the best I've found so far is Teknos Futura Aqua 90 - actually has a decent sheen level! Have you tried that one yet?

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Cheers. That's one I've got coming to me to test .

[@wokinghamdecoratingservice891]

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator - their primer goes nicely under it as a system. Had good results with it so far.

[@PBYM79]

Isn't that a hybrid?

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

@@PBYM79 the teknos? Not sure

[@jimmychooquay]

Does anyone know what the best acrylic water based gloss is? I’ve been using a Leyland Acrylic primer/undercoat and fast dry acrylic gloss but, I wondered what is better.

[@garyreed9509]

Really good video Phil, great content again mate, I wonder if macphersons water based gloss is any good as it's the trade side of crown, well done mate

[@starlitpathways5595]

I'm liking the fastflow satin... It is a hybrid, the purple oil is on the surface every morning. I did nearly lose a brush, now I just keep it bagged up (I know, i know!) Got told the other day about a really good brush cleaner...but I washed the receipt it was written on 😂. There must be a good way of cleaning the brush, as supadec is another killer, but great paint!

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

these washed out fine

[@colinwall2052]

Have any of these paints been used on a normal flat door if so what was finish like,

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Actually that paint was on flat doors on the original job it was bought for... It was the toilet doors at a factory. One yellow, one a cerise and one a light blue. All brough to a two gloss finish from.bare wood (that plug face wood) Results were the same... Still needed that extra coat of gloss ... Also they were brushes and not rolled.

[@Shortboxing47]

Hi phill loving the progress mate, is multi surface paint any good for a garage door do you know like your standard new build ones?

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Yes. AllCoat Exterior and Bedec MSP... Even Frenchic. Make sure it's clean and a light sand before you start. ;)

[@colinhobbs5151]

Caparol gloss,decent sheen level, and Phil contact paintshack,I'm sure they will sort some out for you.

[@adrianadios5041]

Phil... what is the best satinwood right now hands down?

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

for ease of application... two coats (most of the time) ScuffX for a nother qulaity finish with one Uc and two top coats.. Interior or Exterior look at Isomat

[@adrianadios5041]

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks mate, I'm gonna try Scuff x. All the best!

[@daveoconnor5084]

Hi Phil, just watched a video on KZbin, a painter who uses water based paints but doesn't rate their durability. I'm at the point where I'm going to use the Bedec satin MSP for stairs handrail, spindles and skirting boards. How durable is it. I'm panicking slightly now as I've never used it before. Any advice and your thoughts please.

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Hi Dave? Who was that?? So many water based paints are interior exterior now.... How much durability does one want lol How many times do you go to an outside and the woodwork is peeling and flaking... And you know it's been done in oil! Water based exterior paints can be more flexible than oil. Have you watched my Bedec MSP scratch test in uPVC?

[@geoffreymeare3406]

Hi Dave used loads of M.S.P Satin on exteriors.I think it's about the best you can get.Trouble is It doesn't quite cover in 2 coats so you might want to give 3 coats

[@daveoconnor5084]

Thanks for your replies. I was watching a guy on YT . I was thinking OMG. Feeling better after your comments. Thanks again 👍🏻

[@richardloze5994]

Hi phill. I've been using isomat satin this week is very similar to aqua guard if not the same . Very white I must say. I don't trust the primier as I grip primier I must say. In some places it failed the scratch test a day after being painted all sanded and prep properly. Nothing touches halfprimier unbelievable stuff. So far bedec is my favourite one.

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

It's very white. Isomat cure time is 30 day btw ;)

[@richardloze5994]

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator hell that's a long time.

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

@@richardloze5994 zinnser are about 7 days

[@davewright9312]

Use both crown and johnnos regularly ..I think Johnnos just had the edge with gloss level.

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

The brush killer?

[@tedduggan3188]

Can you do a test on Crown + PLUS + and Crown Acrylic primer, please

[@wendywolfe398]

Can you buy this brand in the USA?

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

I'm not sure. Sorry :(

[@davidcottle7346]

I’ve been using it for years lovely paint never had a problem cleaning brushes after ever that said the only thing I’ve glossed in the last five years is a front door but I think the satin is great paint

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Thanks for sharing!

[@andrewthorn1399]

Doris must weigh a ton by now. Crown WB products are good, their gloss is one of the better ones. Charcoal WB primer covers an absolute multitude.

[@MarkClifford-fh9ip]

Hi, I've used fastflow Gloss, Satin and Eggshell. Gloss is good and seems to improve after a few weeks curing. Satin does yellow and look aged after one year plus. Eggshell is nice to use and two coats covers well over any quality undercoat, gives a nice flat eggshell finish.

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Thanks for sharing!

[@clintmannion5598]

The jonos undercoat covers much better than the crown undercoat just much whiter

[@Chrismiles-n5e]

Hi I work in Spain were it's hot so oil v water

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Don't you have AC though?

[@chippy3350]

Best water based gloss giving best high gloss finish, Brewers “”Albany”” not hybrid, only downside it starts to run easily hard to keep in check, you think you have stopped them leave for some time and they appear from nowhere. If anyone knows a technique to stop it running please let me know….Phill are you sanding down between coats….great vids, thanks.p

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Yes I am.. I do it and dust off before I start.

[@gareththompson5269]

Benjamin Moore Advance Gloss has a very decent sheen level but who these days wants gloss?

[@davidcottle7346]

I agree can’t stand the finish always steer customers away from it and I’ve just recently brought a new house and some bastards glossed everything now I’ve got to move in and re- paint the lot all over again

[@miker8149]

👍👍

[@mattcartwright8272]

Used Crown FF gloss last week on a door frame. Truly awful stuff. I won't be using it again. Put the second coat on late Friday last thing so let's see what it looks like when I go in tomorrow morning. Half expecting to have to apply a third coat!

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

hi.... you used their undercoat, then a 1st gloss coat. the 2nd gloss coat will be fine today. The two top coats over the uc is something I cover in future videos :)

[@mattcartwright8272]

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Seeing as you asked Phil...It went over WB eggshell i.e. no UC. Second coat definitely better but still you can see flashing from underneath. Needs a 3rd coat really. Have also used same product in a dark tint on attached door. Better but still pulls off on small detail trim. You have to work quick with it then leave it alone. OK if you flood large flat panels and lay it off. Good sheen though tbh.

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Always best to use the matching fast flow UC. There seems to be something in the matching UC/primers that aid the finish top coats looking their best.

[@dannstonelake7181]

Is it still 1 u/c and 2 top coats orn1 u/c and 1 top coat

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

@@dannstonelake7181 you've watched the video? For best results... Yep

[@eezy251able]

Use the fast flow all the time. I find it a lot better than the quick dry Dulux.

[@mysterygirl-xt4ic]

I hope so as I've bought some :/

[@Colwray1]

Crown fast flow quick dry…. Aweful stuff!!! May as well try and paint dishwater on the woodwork … used it twice never again … crap

[@Colwray1]

Just to add.. it was the white I used…..

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

Thanks for the tips! lol

[@Colwray1]

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 👌😂

[@klinteriors74]

123 balls eye for me

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

as a gloss?? lol

[@arifmunshi6833]

It's gone yellow!!!!!!!!!!

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

very

[@chippy3350]

Albany

[@geoffreymeare3406]

If your professional you should never use any waterbased gloss. It's all rubbish and belongs in room 101. Having said that most homeowners wouldn't know any difference whatever you use.

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

LoL

[@kevinjackson6387]

Worse stuff I’ve ever used took it back don’t waste ya monies,

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

@@kevinjackson6387 Fast Flow?

[@kevinjackson6387]

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator yes sorry fast flow,rubbish couldn’t get a decent finish with it ,talk about fast flow never had so many runs ,used nearly every WB paint going and this is the worst

[@gregbell5303]

Johnsons is by far the best

[@davidcottle7346]

All gloss paint should come with a bloody free headache tablet awful stuff oil based that is

[@ProfessionalPainterDecorator]

LoL