What's the Deal with Shiplap? Fake Shiplap vs. Real Shiplap and How to Make it

[@robertlevasseur6843]

I moved into a 200 year old farm house with an unheated summer kitchen whose walls were horizontal boards down to the chair rail and verticle bead boards below. One wall had been destroyed so I wanted to recreate the original construction. The horizontal boards were tongue and groove. I decided to mill the new pine boards into ship lap instead. I scored three channels behind each board. That was fifteen years ago and nothing has moved, warped or split.

[@ricksrealpitbbq]

Shiplap also looks good running vertically especially used as wainscoting. Really enjoy your channel 👍

[@DIYwithDave]

Thanks!

[@noyopacific]

The hundred+ year-old home we restored on the Mendocino coast 30 years ago has 1X10 "channel bevel shiplap" redwood siding. It was a common siding choice in this area back in the day. We had to replace some of it during restoration. The edge profiles were cut by a local re-saw mill that had the shaper knives to do it. I shudder to think what it would take to try to get that kind of siding today. Thanks for the video!

[@DIYwithDave]

That's great! I wish I could have seen it. Thanks for sharing.

[@amishterrorist17]

@1:06 Pretty sure the image of the red home was utilizing Bevel lapping instead of Shiplap; you can see a significant amount of the bottom of the siding. Shiplap has become such a hot style it's often confused with other methods like Bevel or Clapboard.

[@design2build]

I don’t think it’s all the rage that it used to be, but it’s not going anywhere. It’s a timeless look. I love using it vertically in my remodels.

[@2-old-Forthischet]

I had a bunch of extra 1 x 3s that wasn't shiplap but close enough for a wall in the garage. It now makes it much easier to hang shelf brackets, etc. I painted it gloss battleship grey paint that I had left over.

[@jameycollins725]

Shiplap is awesome and will never go out of style!

[@tomjordan3326]

I made some one time using 1/2” plywood cut into 8” strips then cut the rabits on my table saw. It was a lot more work than I thought it would be but my wife and daughter loved it so it was worth it

[@DIYwithDave]

ALL of my projects are a lot more work than I originally anticipate, but you're right; what matters is if the people it is made for really enjoy it.

[@wno1043]

I did the same thing, but am putting it on the ceiling of our old farmhouse kitchen. I didn't find it to be any trouble at all to make on my table saw with a dado blade. It was easy.

[@peggywest8371]

I don't care if it is still trending, I'm doing it. 😅😅😅 thank you for the infrastructure. I learn something new everyday.

[@DIYwithDave]

Thanks for watching!

[@BonjeaniRobbins]

Love the playhouse, Great job!! I love shiplap look not the price. Thank you for this video it was so informational :)

[@dsellmann1811]

I have bought a house that was built in 1859. I have begun pulling the paneling off to reveal amazing dark wood ship lap. However, one place has a gap/ hole that I need to figure out how to fix. What are your suggestions without having to put ugly paneling back up??

[@timhalcomb4041]

Thanks for sharing we have it in a bedroom and are going to put it in the living room as a accent wall. Have a blessed day in the name of Jesus Christ.

[@DIYwithDave]

Thank you! Good luck with your project!

[@5W5Y5]

When installing, where do you want to fasten shiplap? Definitely not in the joint?

[@DD-uf2uo]

Have you done a video on " GERMAN SIDING "? It's kinda similar to shiplap but has a little different look and was use on old homes on the outside. My old shack, I mean house has it. 🤔 .

[@deborahhowell8037]

I absolutely love shiplap, and I really get into decorating.

[@downhilltwofour0082]

I love the kids play house!

[@DIYwithDave]

Thanks!

[@daniellelefaive262]

When using it for indoors, what size plywood would you recommend for a DIY?

[@DIYwithDave]

A quarter inch hardwood plywood (sande, baltic birch, etc.) would work best. I would make the width between 4-8 inches wide.

[@mikehenthorn1778]

so a double rabbited joint. got it. not sure it is better than clapboard for the outside and no point on the inside.

[@Laguna2013]

can I pull off my old yellow stained knotty pine vertical paneling and have it milled into shiplap that I can reinstall horizontally? Come to think to it, why would one install panelling horizontal vs vertical? Thanks!

[@danielkraus5662]

I did vertical fake shiplap and can say it’s cheap, looks convincingly like shiplap, and easy to install.

[@tonyhemingway7980]

When did shiplap become square edged? I am 73 years old and can remember when shiplap had more of a clapboard look.

[@brianbarney1885]

The square edges don’t allow water to flow away from the inside corner of the joint which leads to rot very quickly. Square edge shiplap was originally used on interior walls to reduce air infiltration and then was covered with glued paper or cloth which was then painted or plastered. This was used as (probably) a lower cost alternative to lath and plaster especially in the west where lumber was plentiful and cheap.

[@moldings_etc]

As someone who makes true shiplap every week and sometimes daily, it's a great material for walls and ceilings. It's not cheap to make but for the rustic look, people will pay.

[@JesseKlaus]

I'm building a barn/workshop with a finished 2nd floor. I'm planning to condition the space but I don't want to have to keep it conditioned all the time. Due to this I don't really want to clad the ceiling or walls with drywall. I have a sawmill and plenty of trees. I have a lot of pine logs ready to be used but also need to clear a bunch of sweetgum. Any thoughts on whether or not I could use sweetgum? My studs and joists are in 24" centers. I also have a bunch of sturdy R fiberglass faced insulation panels I had considered putting up first then gluing the shiplap to that, in addition to nailing though that may be overkill. I had also considered putting the sturdy R up first, painting it black, then doing faux shiplap on top of that. Seems like I'd spend a lot of time cutting the laps either with a router or dado blade. Any thoughts are welcome.

[@realtyrocks1969]

As someone that used to pick up horse shit in a stable I can confirm that nobody cares what you have to say.

[@LA70S]

I don't think shipman is as popular as it was but I still like it for utility/laundry areas, finishing off attic spaces and garages.

[@ThreeNoTrump_100]

I prefer tongue and groove pine indoors, stained or painted. Sometimes I install it at 45 degrees as an accent wall.

[@peterrose5373]

I thought you were supposed to paint/stain shiplap before you put it up, so bare wood doesn't get exposed at the joints when it shrinks.

[@derrickp]

I just ordered shiplap for my cabin ceiling.

[@DIYwithDave]

I think that the shiplap look is perfect for a cabin. Good luck on the project!

[@twitch1965]

I have bought and sold 6 houses over the last 15 years, moving for work. Every time I see shiplap, I walk away. One, I don't like paneling or wood on walls, wainscoting, okay, bt that's it. Two, it looks cheap. Three, the fake house flippers killed most "trendy" design styles, and I've fallen back on the tried and true.

[@2coryman]

The real thing next to a good copy indoors has an appearance of being more solid and of better quality

[@JudithRohe]

Does fake shiplap come in separate strips or in a whole sheet like plywood or paneling? And can I get it at Home Depot or Lowe’s?

[@pearljam_1]

Both.

[@peterrose5373]

I think that's call d T-111 siding.

[@mikehenthorn1778]

ok we have got to be real here , ship lap works because jute was added to the joint that kept the joint water tight. when the wood moved the jute would follow suit and keep it dry ( ok ish earth sauce will always find a way to get in your boat. ) . house and barns would be well protected.

[@mistypadgette7645]

What about shiplap panels

[@HeliRy]

Why do some people put a gap between boards when it’s true shiplap, and some don’t? Just an aesthetics choice?

[@DIYwithDave]

If it's true shiplap, you don't need to put a space. The space will develop naturally as the wood moves with the seasons.

[@silverbackag9790]

@@DIYwithDavenot exactly accurate. Nickel gap is a thing.

[@vlrissolo]

Thanks for the interesting history! I think shiplap is just a trend made by a trendy show by the trendy chip and Joanna Gaines. Obviously it was something used in Old homes just as here on the East Coast we had what they are now calling skinny shiplap. Would love to learn more about it but what I see is just skinny boards with some type of mud or something to fill in the gaps to prevent the wind blowing through. Doesn't really work after a while lol I lived in a house with it and you could feel the wind blowing right through the side of the house. Anyway, it had its purpose in its day and that day is gone. Now it is a trend that is so overdone it makes me want to vomit. Not that it's bad just that everybody copies everybody else. Folks, use your imagination! There are so many beautiful subtle or dynamic wall treatments that can be used as opposed to shiplap, same thing your neighbor and everyone else is slapping up. Have you all seen the ship like where they just draw lines on white sheetrock? When I first saw that I thought this is ridiculous! I guess I am one of those people who steer away from anything trendy. I would rather have something that I love and is unusual then something everyone else has. Not trying to say I'm better than anyone else by any means feel I might just think differently than the masses. Would love to learn more about why shift lab and skinny shiplap was put in homes. I'm guessing it was an insulating thing that like I said didn't work too well or at least doesn't anymore LOL but please make another video and tell us why! Thank you, enjoyed that

[@marktate4466]

Putting some up in a bedroom, the seam when you put boards end to end is not real satisfying. Otherwise I like working with it.

[@rogerwhiting9310]

Use nickel gap..no nails

[@user-em6ie2be7x]

My neighbor has that stuff on her walls & it's flimsy. Her kids keep pulling it down off the walls climbing on it.

[@DIYwithDave]

Lol. It's probably faux shiplap. I dont think that they would be able to pull off the real stuff. .

[@xephael3485]

Kids climbing on stuff will wreck anything...

[@DIYwithDave]

Haha... that's true. I have 4 kids and our family motto is "we just can't have nice things"

[@pernell4351]

We have in our house

[@jerseyscaler445]

Ship lap is on its way out

[@xephael3485]

1:06 that's not shiplap 🤪

[@raymondchow8722]

Just don't put shiplap everywhere. Similar to a lobster buffet, keep eating and eventually you will get sick.

[@Alan-tjj]

Good point !!

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

But I want my Shiplap made from reclaimed fishing boats, so it's really made out of Ships ~!

[@DIYwithDave]

Lol. Good luck! Might be hard to come by.

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

@@DIYwithDave 😀 :-)

[@brennickjack]

Hah... i just put ship lap for walls instead of drywall.... its a basement room... too hard to carry 4 by 8 sheets of drywall down into the basement...ship did the trick

[@histershellac2842]

Just follow the money. Who's paying ANY of these home "fix em up" actors.

[@Zacharythorsen]

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[@gjd8849]

Complete fad, like sliding barn doors