What's the Difference? - Final Fight - Super Nintendo vs Sega CD

[@Shinespark]

The Sega CD doesn't sound like the Arcade. It sounds way better than the Arcade.

[@Lorenzo3K]

Shinespark I was thinking the same. Sega CD basically had a soundtrack.

[@klasicktha1]

Yep

[@Lightblue2222]

The arcade sounds like regular Genesis chip music.

[@nickd3139]

I agree. I was thinking the same thing.

[@andrewvasquez1960]

Agreed, it's a shame we didn't get the CD mix as a music option for the capcom beat em up bundle

[@jaredlord4009]

The Sega CD version is actually the one I played as a kid (and was, like, one of two Sega CD games I got an opportunity to play regularly) since my neighbor had a Sega CD (and not an SNES). And man, was it a BLAST to play.

[@mariomario7379]

That CD quality kills that snes chip tunes. Wow. Great soundtrack for the CD version!

[@fivefeet8]

The Japanese version of Final Fight for the Sega CD did not censor any characters and cut scenes.

[@lluispoloisern677]

Yeap. Same with Super Famicom.

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

Fun facts: There is a Game Boy Advance version of Final Fight 1 called "Final Fight One" and it is a remake of the original arcade version. The GBA version was developed by Sun-Tec and was released in 2001. In the GBA version of the game, you can play as Guy, Cody, Haggar, Street Fighter Alpha 3 Cody and Street Fighter Alpha 3 Guy, you can play in 2-player mode via link cable and vice versa.

[@ConfusionDistortion]

Just to add to this a bit. The original Super Famicom release of Final Fight has the blood intact, unlike the Snes release. Roxy and Poison are also present, unlike the Snes release, and in their skimpy clothes, unlike the Sega CD release. The statues with breast exposed are uncensored on the last stage, unlike the Snes release. Damnd and Sodom retain their original names, unlike the Snes release. "OH MY GOD!" was kept in the bonus stage, unlike the Snes release. The darker colored skin characters in the game are intact and not white washed, unlike the Snes release. Belger's chair remains the same as the arcade, unlike the Snes release. Stage 3 stays a bar, instead of a "club", unlike the Snes release. Music timing in scenes is correct, unlike the Snes release. There are probably a couple other minor things too, but in general, if you must play Final Fight on Snes, buy the SFC cart instead. Mega CD wise blood is restored also, and Poison and Roxy have skimpy clothes again. Basically the lesson here is that both the Sega CD and Snes releases are missing stuff. If you want the best releases, you need to buy the uncensored Japanese versions on either system. Also, the timing of the animations is off on the Sega CD and Mega CD game. This affects the dial combos some when you convert them into throws and the over all speed of the game because the animations for the attacks are slightly slower then they should be. The Snes/SFC versions do not suffer this issue.

[@jimiandreas5732]

smart guy

[@SNARC15]

"Sega CD sounds...MOSTLY like the arcade" Well I admit that track sounds a LOT better than it did on Double Impact for the 360/PS3.

[@CL-pp5kk]

SNARCast Productions sega cd sounds better than the arcade

[@EnriqueStyle]

Love these videos The Sega CD version was prob one the reasons I was happy to be an early adopter. I used to play it all the time. The jump from the SNES was huge. And I still play the OST from time to time. Especially that first track. The base is crazy loud.

[@PhuryousOne]

This Final Fight game was awesome. Terminator was another one with great music and sound effects. I was a fan of that system for the short time it lived. Even with the loading I preferred to play games like Mortal Kombat on Sega CD too.

[@benhopper3363]

The Sega CD version was not developed by Capcom. Sega licensed it from Capcom and ported it themselves.

[@GamerGee]

Final fight cd in Japan doesn't have censorship. Just to add

[@carlesmr1835]

But the SNES soundtrack of Final Fight is pure 16-bit cheesy chiptune. So many hours listening to that while playing the game over and over again.

[@RetroJonesy]

Another great video, I love Final Fight and played the SNES a lot when I was a kid. I knew of the Mega CD version but never played it, I wish I would have had it when I was younger, would have been amazing playing 2 player with friends.

[@IgoByaGo]

My brother and I found Final Fight CD at Toys R Us for $9.99 when we bought our Sega CDX on clearance. It was an awesome weekend for sure. I think it was 1995.

[@jsttv]

Me too.

[@seanmyster6]

The SNES version of Final Fight was almost certainly a rush job to get it out in time for the Super Famicom launch window. Final Fight 2 is proof that the SNES would've been capable of a more proper port of the original game.

[@nefarious520]

The Snes music while not as good as the Sega Cd's still had good tunes.

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

I own Final Fight CD, have had my original copy from new, got it back in 1993 (Dual case version PAL MEGA CD) as I am from the UK.. The Music is fantastic.. Is a must own for any 16 BIT system..

[@NIProductionsLLC]

Sega CD version has a Rapid Punch "Cheat" On the Options screen, highlight Exit, and press Right + A + B + Start.

[@KnowYourVideoGames]

Final Fight was developed by Capcom but ported by Sega for the SEGA CD.

[@ConsoleWars]

Couldn't find that. Good to know!

[@SNARC15]

Similar to what they did to Capcom's other games pre-SF2SCE, namely Forgotten Worlds, Strider, Ghouls 'N Ghosts and my personal favorite, Mercs.

[@dudinacas]

@@SNARC15 The Mega Drive port of Mercs is better than the arcade IMO, thanks to that great extra mode.

[@SNARC15]

@@dudinacas So true.

[@jimiandreas5732]

I dont think you mentioned that in your coverage of final fight?!

[@pizzacrumz1777]

Best Beat'em Ups for 16-bit are as follow: 1st place: SNES - TMNT: Turtles In Time 2nd place: Genesis - Streets of Rage 2 3rd place: Sega CD - Final FIght

[@jsttv]

@@pizzacrumz1777 I have all three of them.

[@jsttv]

Final Fight CD, was one of the main reasons why I got the Sega CD. Moreover, got it at clearance at toys r us for $9.99 during 1995 or 1996.

[@violentkim]

in Mega-CD (japan version of sega cd) poison and roxy no contain censure,and in the version japanese of snes (SFC) the game contain poison and roxy instead the sid and billy punks...

[@Control-Max]

It's hard to choose between the arcade and the Sega CD versions. The arcade has slightly better graphics and (depending on the region) it has no censorship, however the music is so much better on Sega CD. I'd say it would be great if you can go for both versions, but ignore the Snes one at all cost.

[@ulysses2162]

And Pyron's colour hack on the Mega CD is even better again. 😎

[@daxxhex8546]

Back in the 90s arcade in my home town most of the games import from Japan 🇯🇵

[@D.Rodri.]

Same here. That strange racing game where Sonic was seen for the same time, the infamous first person Dragon Ball Z game, Tekken 3, Sega Rally, House of Dead, Point Blank, etc. They were all in Japanese but fun was always there with friends.

[@zkaminski01]

The Sega CD should have really promoted games that go beyond what a standard 16 bit game. Release the ultimate home versions of games. I have a Sega CD and it could have been so much greater than it was!

[@alritedave]

zkaminski01 I have a MegaCD too. The extra hardware included in it was largely under used.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

"Everything wrong with Final Fight (Super Nintendo) in 5 minutes or less"

[@marcustuggles8761]

I got my Sega CD version of final fight back in 1995 for only 20.00 and still have it to this day. Nice that it was added to ps3 along with magic sword a few years back

[@alritedave]

Anyone looking to play Final Fight CD should check check out Pyron's Colour hack. It makes Final Fight CD look much closer to the arcade.

[@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial]

Sega CD is definitely the best port of Final Fight. Also we will take on this drinking challenge

[@ConsoleWars]

I hoped you guy would.

[@SNARC15]

Hell I should head up to Philly and join you both on it.

[@AlexOjideagu2]

The Sharp x68000 is the best home port

[@RetroGG-74]

Mega-CD is cheap and no censoring . Best of bunch for these consoles .

[@sb6482]

cheap?!! £60-£100

[@RetroGG-74]

@@sb6482 the market value when I made the comment 3 years ago was different than today. Nothing's cheap now 😉

[@daveruda]

The Japanese Mega Cd version has no censoring ^^

[@terrythe2dmaniac71]

This a welcomed edition and a new format, but I have to say although it's a lot of work, you guys shine when your working off each other Infront of the camera, keep up the good work.

[@xRocketzFighterx]

Love these videos, Mate. Also this video and your batman comparison video have made me search up their sega cd osts. Thank you for bringing these amazing soundtracks to my attention.

[@ConsoleWars]

SOHGuy Awesome. I’m all about spreading the word for awesome video game music.

[@bagsikdangal]

Darn my liver died because of those beers🍺🍻 when mentioning _just like the arcade._

[@ConsoleWars]

bagsikdangal As it should.

[@EdsterIII]

Also I really loved the Andore fighter, the big guy who looks like Andre the Giant. He was a epic BAD guy. Back then these fighting/side scrolling 2D adventure games were so good, so unique, and so much fun. Streets of Rage on the Genesis was another one. But this one on the Sega💿CD💿 was probably the best of the side scrollers. Good graphics, cool levels, great bosses, and a awesome soundtrack. This is easily a 9 or 9.5/10.

[@christianna3561]

Well done! I have the Sega CD version and love it! Just makes me so sad Capcom and Sega did not use this game engine for Captain Commando for the Sega Cd :(

[@squarepainter]

Fantastic video dude! I'm a sucker for anything Final Fight. I'd say that Final Fight CD is even better than the arcade version, especially the music.

[@SHINdanny]

I prefer the CPS1 version, especially the music, it´s personal preference ;D

[@AkumaTh]

Figures one with two player option was the better one. But it is nice to see all the differences. Great video

[@darkwingdave79]

I TOTALLY enjoyed your video. Since this is my introduction of your channel. Looks like I'm gonna have to binge watch today & subscribe, which is fine by THIS guy. Keep up the awesome work, Boss

[@dimitrisgiannakidis32]

Hehehe !!! The snes sounds like 8 Bit game..... mega cd is just superior !!!! Perfect video !!!! We want more !!!!

[@BAKU2K2]

What happened to Greg, did he leave or something?

[@dad7275]

I have both and definitely recommend SCD version. Its fun!

[@pix3l_brat]

Love Final Fight. I used to play it all the time.

[@ConsoleWars]

I grew up with the SNES game. I'm finding out how bad it was the more I play other versions of the game.

[@KAILOONE]

Same here when I was a kid back in the 90's but I really hated the fact it was only 1 player, I owned a genesis and my cousin too while my neighbor a snes so we traded in the summer and my cousin came over but we could only play per lives. So we ended up playing Streets of Rage 1 or 2 more often than not.

[@pizzacrumz1777]

Best Beat'em Ups for 16-bit are as follow: 1st place: SNES - TMNT: Turtles In Time 2nd place: Genesis - Streets of Rage 2 3rd place: Sega CD - Final FIght

[@equinoxfan82]

Nice one Dan. I'm really enjoying these comparison videos! Keep up the great work. - Derek

[@ConsoleWars]

equinoxfan82 Thanks Derek!

[@khuntington]

I bought a copy a few years back, brand new still sealed. It's one of the prizes of my collection. And I can't lie, I broke the seal to play it. Lulz.

[@SouthBayLA1310]

Bruh lol

[@JessicaChastainFan]

Sega CD takes a massive dump on the SNES. Not surprised!

[@tskraj3190]

In this game but most of the time the SNES smacks it's manhood on the Sega CD and 32X's forehead.

[@RandomInnVGMs]

Hey, please change your cables for Genesis/ mega drive and sega cd. Try RGB scart cables. Picture looks way too washed out in your videos. Maybe your console have some problems? It lacks contrast.

[@retrosoul8770]

I believe the games color palette also lacks contrast and vibrancy, so that also doesn't help.

[@RandomInnVGMs]

Retro Soul It looks better than this in person. In this video characters and backgrounds blurry together, that’s not the case in reality.

[@IrishNomad]

HDRetrovision also makes component cables which make Genesis games look pixel perfect.

[@ztoxtube]

Even though Guy was my character in the arcade, my biggest disappointment of the SNES port was the lack of Haggar's spin move sound. "whOAHHhh!!!

[@czarfacekillahh8217]

You guys should do a console wars on the Spider-Man Animated series game for snes and Genesis

[@grgmj1980]

I love this style of video...more please

[@ConsoleWars]

You got it!

[@nimaiiikun]

glad I chose UN Squadron over Final Fight when they first came out on the SNES. Later bought a Sega CD and could finally get the better version! I was hoping you and greg would do final fight as a console wars episode. it'd be a Dan sweep!

[@mydadsacop123]

This is a great video format just like console wars, and youre fun to listen to

[@inlovewithi]

The music sounds more like the arcade on the Super Nintendo version, since the Sega CD version is playing instrumental tracks off the CD.

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

1:08 Notice also how Roxy/Poison's bra strap wasn't hanging off her shoulder, unlike the arcade version????// ;*P

[@chisoxfan708]

As an SNES kid.. Final Fight CD is what I wish the SNES was.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

This should of been used for a Console Wars video. BTW, Dan, I wonder why you and Greg never did a Sega CD or 32X game vs a SNES game????

[@Sinn0100]

There is so many differences between the two that I don't think a four and a half minute video will cover it. Everything from the ability to select all three characters from the arcade, better graphics, bigger sprites (I think), no censorship, music, voice work, Sega CD has all levels...it's a pretty huge gulf. Damn.. man, I stand corrected. Good job!

[@freakyfornash]

Well the Sega CD edition still had some light censorship. Just nowhere near as blatant, nor ridiculous as the shoddy SNES port was though.

[@SpotOnJ2K]

Love this series. Keep it up Dan!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks! I will!

[@SightlySinner]

Great episode! Looking forward to the next one. Maybe sonic cd vs genesis sonic and/or master system sonic? Then again that might not work as well. Just a thought.

[@lluispoloisern677]

Actually the japanese version for SNES do has Poison and Ivy and even it has blood, not like the american and european ones...

[@timhouston8007]

Both weren't developed by Capcom... Sega actually handled the port themselves on CD.

[@eyesofnight]

i could swear the sega cd version was ported by sega under license from capcom.

[@mr.dueezy]

I'm pretty sure the programmers thought the super Nintendo couldn't handle all the stuff they cut out of the first game but by the time the second one came out, they included all those cut things, I'm sure if they would have re released the first game after the second one got released, it would include everything that was cut in the original release. also if i remember correctly, poison and Roxy wear the sexy clothes in the super famicom version

[@mxev9626]

I think it's not that they thought the SNES couldn't handle all the stuff but rather that the hardware was new back when the first Final Fight was ported and they simply couldn't port everything perfectly. By the time the second part was ported they were much more acquainted with SNES and could squeeze more out of it. It can be seen with any game system - despite the hardware being the same the later games are more technically sophisticated than the early ones.

[@magnumforcemopar402]

Cart size was 4 times larger by the time part 2 came out.

[@jimiandreas5732]

Well the Sega CD port was done by Sega(not capcom)just to clarify,The Sega CD ver also had extra frames of animation put in By sega themselves,Making it unique

[@ConsoleWars]

Good to know.

[@muhanc.a.9299]

I'm expecting Nintendo's answer to this video

[@tippycanoe99]

The Sega CD had everything from the arcade and the bonus time attack with cutscene voice acting.

[@Cahuitl]

Nice, guys. Your videos are cool. Hope you could upload more more often.

[@pliniomsann]

you GOT TO DO Master System games x NES games

[@DaigoKengo]

The word "Arcade" was said 17 times.

[@creativecatproductions]

I think the Sega CD version was developed by A Wave, Inc. They were a small Japanese game company

[@Ricoscurrentworld]

Sega Wins!

[@TobeyStarburst]

Wow the Sega CD version looks amazing!

[@MANOFBLADE]

The Sega CD version is miles better but the voice acting is awful. The Japanese version has way better voice acting.

[@chivichong4214]

yea man, i got used to Final Fight SNES for so many years but i knew that Guy was also on it and that u could make it 3 player

[@slamjackson2137]

Can you guys please, please do a Super Techmo Bowl console wars?? I just recently picked up a copy for the Genesis, which I didn't even know existed. The red phone is ringing. The world needs you now more than ever.

[@aceassn716]

Genesis version is tougher to run the ball, or the defense is relentless! I have both and prefer Segas, the snes ports are to easy. Would like to see Tecmo 3final addition as well

[@segaalltimer4143]

One Thing Problem Is For Some Reason Snes Version Has 2 Characters Has More Names Changed For Some Reason Damnd Is Thrasher And Sodom Is Katana Why!

[@JoePants]

Wow, when did the price of Final Fight CD skyrocket? I got it about 5 years ago for like $20.

[@silentfanatic]

Describing the voice acting in Final Fight CD as "doing one better" than the arcade is a mite strong praise.

[@IslandBoy-808]

The thing I hated about the SNES version of Final Fight was that the Rolento stage is missing. That's why I prefer the GBA version over the SNES version..

[@BubbaAce]

Silly Dan, it's not 2-Players... it's TWO FRICKIN Players XP

[@gamesurvivor3129]

I only ask one thing .... A fighting challenge used to keep earth safe ..... mortal kombat CD

[@ConsoleWars]

Just got it. Not sure when I'll review it though.

[@caliktil]

Hey guys, I thought up a great idea. How about thunder force 3 vs thunder spirit's? They are the same game but thunder force is on the Genesis, and thunder spirit's is on the SNES.

[@88milhasBr]

2:32 - Is it Daytona USA guy?

[@Diegus-]

And between arcade and sega cd which one is better?

[@Kos4Evr]

If the Sega CD had more games that were noticeably superior to their cartridge counterparts and a lower price to buy it might have sold better and had a lot more games available for it. It could have done so much better than it did.

[@ronindebeatrice]

Kos4Evr IDK. Paying much more money for the addon was quite the hurdle. Maybe if they could have brought the titles out a little cheaper it may have faired better.

[@Kos4Evr]

ronindebeatrice that's why I'm saying that if the add on was priced to sell, then it would have been less of a hurdle. It cost too much for something that you had to own the console in order to use. Plus CDs could have been cheaper because the discs themselves were cheaper than carts.

[@rael_gc]

The SegaCD music was a complete remix of the arcade music. Another game reprogrammed by Sega. And, like most Sega CD games, while digital music, not compressed one (quality is awesome!). For me, the best Final Fight version, and at the side of Sonic CD, the best game of the console.

[@8wealthyone8]

HI CAN YOU Please do Wario Land 2 Game boy vs game boy colour. thanks Eric

[@backinthedaygamer]

Just when I thought your videos couldn't get any better...DRINKING GAME!

[@EdsterIII]

This was one game I actually did compare. I had the NES, SNES, the Genesis, and the Sega💿CD💿 which got dumped a little too fast IMO. Also I, like many others here thought the Sega💿CD💿sound was incredible. They really utilized the sound abilities of the Sega💿CD💿 and it showed.

[@LilReikoGold]

On the road to 30K subs

[@plcthelegacy4131]

Hey I wonder if you guys can do can do MegaMan X3 Snes vs Saturn I know it's not the Classic Genesis vs Snes but it would still be a solid episode.

[@magnumforcemopar402]

PLC The Legacy a polished snes game vs a rushed half ass port. You must be desperate for an snes win. The same episode should compare snes SF alpha vs Saturn to keep things on the up and up.

[@plcthelegacy4131]

Magnum force Mopar That also a good choice for review. And I'm only giving suggestions, They did reviewed butchered ports before, so it wouldn't be that far out of the ordinary.

[@8wealthyone8]

What's the Difference? series is awesome please make more if possible all! Blesses Arek

[@jtomally9681]

Final Fight on SNES (including Final Fight Guy) just plain sucked. Final Fight 2 and 3 were awesome.

[@shyguyshawn82oldman]

Keep up the great work guys!

[@RileySkye100]

Have you ever thought of modding your Genesis and SNES for better quality?

[@edmanr2010]

Sooo which version is the best??? Ohhh I know the arcade or double impact psn port!

[@cbarger2327]

edmanr2010 I have Double Impact on 360 and CCC Vol. 1 on PS2, and I still prefer the Sega CD version even to those arcade ports. 2 reasons: I like the remixes music on the Sega CD version better than Double Impact’s, and I feel that the difficulty is balanced better. The Sega CD version has fewer enemies on screen at once than arcade (but more than SNES)

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

I have Double Impact on PS4 and I find the challenges annoying as crap keeps popping up on the screen every 5 minutes, it puts me off.. I also have the fantastic Final Fight CD on MEGA CD, a fantastic port. What I do like about Double impact is the other game :)

[@cbarger2327]

hell yeah Magic Sword

[@johneymute]

Snes had limited cartride space and capcom didn't bother to spend extra money for bigger cartride space nope, so the snes version was toned down drastically, also capcom didn't bother to convvert those arcade instruments to snes hardware, instead they just replaced those instruments with those muffed recorded trumpet like instruments from the snes dev kit instead. And having no 2 player option was the bottleneck for this version. Why did capcom did this,because it has to be fast & cheap ported as possible to save time & money so they had to cut corners, unfortunately?!

[@edgarector]

BIG difference!Poor Snes,can't handle anything beyond three sprites!Why did they even bother making beat em ups for this system?!

[@TheEliaz78]

the Sega cd version destroy the horrendous SNES port!

[@parker_aug2]

El Kaiser 78 It wasn't horrendous for 1990 (SNES port Japan release date). The Sega CD port was released in 1993 (release date all countries).