What's the Ideal Korean Man?

[@RachelandJun]

TOEIC!! I wonder if it's the same in Korea as it is in Japan? In Japan a lot of Japanese people study specifically for the TOEIC and get really great scores, but they actually can't speak English hardly at all because they never practiced their speaking. My husband Jun has been to interviews where people with near perfect TOEIC scores would be asked to speak English and they just can't... like at all. o_o But that doesn't matter too much because it's all about that paper image yo! Yay Japan.... Everything else sounds (as expected) pretty much the same as Japan! :D Actually, since I wanted to marry my husband before he graduated college, and since I have a more prestigious job than he's likely to get, my MIL like bombarded me with questions like, "How can you possibly like him?!" "He doesn't even have a job!" "Why would you EVER marry someone like him?!" as if money and his job is the only thing women should care about in a relationship. That was probably the most offensive thing someone has ever asked me in Japan. I totally wanted to go King Kong in their living room after she said that. So angry! -Rachel

[@BlueRazor69]

You can't help but notice certain differences between every country's dating habits. I don't know a whole lot about contemporary Japan or Korea, I'm a grad student for history, but then at the same time some of it is so similar between Japan, Korea, here in the States, as well as the information being listed by people of other nations here in the comments. It seems like despite all the cultural differences we have the whole human race is looking for relatively the same type of things in the people they want to spend their lives with. We all just want to find someone who makes us happy and build a family, money/work is important but people can't get to hung up on who graduated from where. I have to believe that because no one even here in America has heard of the college I'm getting my degree from lol. I'm a big fan of yours by the way.

[@sophie2406]

Not only that but... Jun is practically perfect. Lucky you Rachel, lucky you. I always feel so jealous watching your videos.

[@bulmak]

Rachel!!! u also watch EatyourKimchi? so cool to find you here too. I watch Simon and Martina to learn about Korean, and u and Jun to learn about Japan. You 4 are my favorite marry couple on KZbin :D thank u for all the amazing information. Eat Your Kimchi Rachel & Jun :D

[@sunnyday6133]

Whaaaat? Rachel on a EYK video? This is freaking awesome :D Also, so much info!

[@loserfrog195]

First of all, omg it's Rachel and Jun and Simon and Martina, two of my favorite youtube couples. Secondly, the scoring system in Japan IS the same, my buddy in Japan just took it this week! He said that 500 is the lowest you can get without passing, 800 is his ideal score (it might vary by person!), and 990 is the highest. Hope this helps if someone hasn't already answered, hahaha :)

[@eatyourkimchi]

Arabic subs now up, thanks to Fatima S

[@commenter195]

tagged the wrong account

[@eatyourkimchi]

I feel like the title of this post should have been "aka SEUNGRI TIME FOR KISSES!"

[@itskindofemily]

I agree with some of the ideal-isms but it would be hard on the Korean guys. Personally I do like them, and they are nice but they shouldn't be trying this hard (an art school is good enough XD)

[@audreyanh9034]

I dont agree with these ideal type because i would rather meet a poor guy (as martina said) that i get along with rather than a rich guy who abuses me, these standards are way too high, and honestly its stupid. and art guys are the best

[@naveerakhan9622]

why do i feel like seungrina said this?

[@MichelleKL143]

Siwon oppa saranghae ♥

[@CarlGorn]

Naveera Khan You mean Fangurilla?

[@eatyourkimchi]

English subs are now up, if you need em :D

[@itskindofemily]

I stand by my opinion XD

[@HyunjeongPark]

thanks for the subtitles. feel sorry for Korean men. :(

[@iscratchmybutt]

Jessica Chen i'm short and funny and not douchey let's date!!!!

[@Dongolov118]

iscratchmybutt man this guy is funny

[@livinitup1143]

Will you please make a video series on how to talk in Korean? Please?

[@famousamos]

Hmm, I don't know. I'm 183cm tall, I attended a prestigious university, and have a well-off career; yet no Korean girls like me :P

[@dt4654]

I think they want a certain type of personality as well...

[@famousamos]

YellowFlickr Light Yeah.....I have a weird personality hahaha.

[@ashleygetchell2958]

이우종 (Woojong) But a weird personality isn't bad! I don't know maybe it's just me, but boring people just isn't my style :p

[@assholebyginger]

You could go full on evil queen and look at the mirror some time! I honestly have no clue what you look like, so don't mistake me for a judgmental person. Just pointing out the obvious fact you missed.

[@瑞兰费]

hahha maybe because you probably get intoxicated after drinking two bottles of soju or you're not a only child :P

[@bibianneb98]

ideal type man/woman = the person you fall in love with

[@eatyourkimchi]

Polish subtitles are now up as well. Thank you, kind stranger, for making them!

[@AB-rx8kr]

The ideal korean man is park chanyeol

[@ikbenroosje]

aria b agreed

[@LaurenFourr]

+MusicsAngelica exo and bigbang

[@migueltolentino7941]

and bts ♡♡please just agree haha

[@AB-rx8kr]

Miguel Tolentino yass

[@notyourneko451]

+Miguel Tolentino YAS!!!!! BTS IS LIFE!! I want to marry them. (sorry fangirl moment)

[@eatyourkimchi]

German subtitles are now up! Thank you kindly, you lovely stranger!

[@香口膠]

T-Test O-of E-English for I-International C-Communication

[@PB-bd5xy]

I hope these guys come to India and start 'Eat your Biryaani' or something XD

[@jinkies2609]

Oh my god that would be lovely I hope they come to Mumbai on from there

[@Kaliprepper]

I always liked guys who were tall dark and handsome physically but found while dating I was MUCH more attracted to someone who kept me mentally stimulated. Someone smart and who I could have great conversations with. I married my best friend three years ago(Met him nine years ago) and he is my height(Im a decently tall girl at five foot nine inches) and funny enough not what I would have considered my physical type(Though I am physically attracted to him of course). But he is my best friends and super smart and we have so much in common. I think everyone has physical ideals but only superficial people will hold out for someone who is physically attractive but has the personality of a fish.

[@starandstrap]

i'm half korean half mexican and i will say this. KOREA IS ONE OF THE MOST SUPERFICIAL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD! THANKS TO KPOP IDOLS.. IM A SHAMED OH WELL.

[@starandstrap]

***** thanks!!!

[@PlNKUHOSHI]

Wow what a mix, so are you good at maths and lazy? Or do you work illegaly at a plasticsurgery clinic? :D

[@lynninpain]

Where I live it's really hard to get accepted into an art school. No one looks down on it, quite the opposite. Block B's Zico studied art in Japan. He seems to be a very intelligent and creative person. Side note: "Rain does it anyways" had me in stitches! ;)

[@lynninpain]

***** I live in Sweden (for 25 yrs. now) but I'm not from here. "Miguk saram" ;)

[@lynninpain]

Elsa Green Yes, we certainly are! I'm so glad Simon & Martina have been able to travel and have fan meets in many countries. My daughter went to their fan meet in Stockholm. She felt very emotional seeing them in person. (My daughter's the one who got me addicted to K-pop and all things Korean.) =)

[@mjctetjoi]

There's also an art highschool called Yeawon art highschool :). They send the most students to Seoul University(which is considered the best in the korean society) even more than any science, technology schools. Also sunwha, kaywon and sejong are famous art schools which are really hard to get in. Korean school art theseday, mostly until high school, are too competitive and it can't be really considered creative, (well because of the entry exam) but nobody can really look down at them. Glad that people never look down anymore just because they're an art major :)

[@Hermyoni33]

So we now know many Korean women have ridiculous highly almost laughable standards in a mate but what about on the flip side? Do Korean men have the same in women?

[@yakurimoe]

From my experience and what I've seen, men get just as ridiculous, but it's actually a cultural thing than something specific to both genders. Women should be just as pretty, smart (aka good grades, good uni), cute, good cook, fashionable, thin, want to have kids etc etc etc. The good thing is that usually once they mature and get off that kind of mentality they start dating reasonably. The girls saying they prefer looks over personality are obviously still immature. I think it's downplayed a lot more for men though because culture-wise it's still extremely patriarchal and it's usually considered the woman's fault if they're not in a good relationship. She's with a successful man, but they are having problems? She's so lucky why is she causing him trouble, what's wrong with her. Or, she's with a not so well-off man? Can't she do any better, why doesn't she put more effort in her beauty, what's wrong with her. It's a lose-lose situation. (Wish I was exaggerating this crap)

[@bweeniebb]

Before KPOP, I had decent standards for a guy, but after KPOP, my standards have become very unrealistic xD I just want a guy who is decent looking, likes me for me, makes decent money, appreciates the fact that I will only get married if he is serious about me and will probably have to wait a long time for me to decide that he is the one for me, taller than me, and is close to his family~ ^^ (And he must have an ANGELIC voice like SHINee's Jonghyun...I think that's where my standards get unrealistic xD)

[@tnguyens12]

as a guy i can say that it gets pretty hard even before the angelic voice LOL

[@nildaalvarado9026]

As another female I have to say this is a tough list sweetie. Its good to keep your guard up but you might be surprised that the man you end up with doesn't meet your all standards.

[@ubergamer2010]

Ideal type: Lee Joon. Understands things from men AND women's perspectives, sexy as hell, very caring and polite, funny, knows how to pole dance, likes skinship... like seriously it's not even just because he's an idol I genuinely adore him haha

[@PhanteusZ]

I am tall (189cm) and above average looking. I am going to Korea and treat everyone like shit! THEY"LL LOVE ME!

[@lilmisskawaii230991]

Lmao you sound like my friend

[@Dangerous0Fairy]

In the middle east we don't have an ideal-man list .. but the man have to win the parents blessings :) This list is unrealistic and unnecessary .. every man has his own charm

[@user-gk9me4pu5i]

Personally I like guys with arms but otherwise, I will settle with guys with eyes or feet, but exceptions can be made still Dk what the craze about height is. Means you can't date hobbits or dwarves, and fili, kili and thorin hot af

[@f0rever1]

"Personally I like guys with arms" well most people in this world have arms. "I will settle with guys with eyes or feet" I believe most guys who are alive have eyes and feet.

[@user-gk9me4pu5i]

dudeanonymousB345T5 Ok but I was kind of joking because the video was about specific criteria for ideal men?:/

[@alicelalla8187]

Heather c. LOL. Maybe you aren't asian. But asian girls generally like tall guys because asian girls are short and having a taller boyfriend or husband will mean you have taller kids...

[@LittleMissAcey]

I'd want to be with the art student that wants to open a coffee shop.

[@nurisnaenifajriyanti736]

that's cool! I'd love that too! ♡

[@IltaSade]

Will you please make a female version for this video?I'm curious as to what men in Korea find to be ideal in women :3

[@bbsyduam2452]

Since I am a Korean girl, I'll explain my side of the story. I graduated from SKY so for some reason I feel like I want to meet a man who graduated from SKY so that we have more things in common and we don't differ much. Expecting to meet someone who share common grounds with you isn't a bad thing right? I bet guys have certain ideal aspects they expect from a girl (big boobs, pretty hair, curvy, all looks, looks, looks) but I don't give cause they are "ideals." Anyone can have rights to dream about the perfect person they want to fall in love with.

[@kristi5511]

i SAW THE THUMBNAIL OF SIWON SO I HAD TO WATCH THIS XD

[@eatyourkimchi]

Ariana Sixx EXCELLENT! MY PLAN WORKED!

[@kristi5511]

@Eat Your Kimchi haha xD when I saw it I couldn't resist watching

[@yourfavsuperjuniorstan1717]

SIWON OPPA

[@JCXP123]

Yup! XD ELF present!!

[@kristi5511]

+JCXP123 yess! who's your bias??

[@f0rever1]

AM I THE ONLY WHO CLICKED ON THIS BECAUSE CHOI SIWON LIKE DAMN...

[@kristi5511]

mE OMFG I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO NOTICE OMG

[@f0rever1]

Ariana Sixx Well at least we both know that we're not the only one... ^^ BUT SRSLY THO I THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA APPEAR ON THIS VIDEO I EXPECTED TOO MUCH

[@kristi5511]

LITERALLY SAME I WAS WAITING FOR HIM TO APPEAR bUt nO xD

[@shinjarurho4130]

GIRL, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE

[@kristi5511]

I LEGIT SQUEALED WHEN I SAW HIM OMFG

[@beasantos31]

I think this is pretty much an Asian thing of having an ideal guy with more functionally adept qualities which would always include knowing a foreign language, studying abroad, earning a high income, studying in a well-known university, etc. Its more of the culture of wanting the guy to still be the provider in the relationship. The thing is, these are just "ideal" types which do not necessarily mean that girls will always go for the person who has these qualities as sure enough, boys who have these are waaay too few.

[@sborrink]

For me, the ideal type is simple. Smart, nice, Christian, capable of protecting the people he cares about, and a non-smoker. If he's a hard worker, muscular, and Korean-BONUS! Why Korean? Because I find Korean guys really attractive. Now, for me personally, it is better if the guy starts out as a friend, because a guy who STARTS in the friend-zone can get OUT of the friend-zone. A guy who I SHUFFLE into the friend-zone, has no chance of getting out.

[@rimun5235]

I have one standard. I demand some level of tolerance and understanding. I cannot date a homophobe or someone discriminatory. I've spoken to cute guys who have just instantly killed my interest with their comments...

[@crystalchang8171]

I think it's not just limited to dating cultures, but also to the society's overall culture and pressure! 'Cause without graduating fron those top universities, it's very hard to get a good job, and those job opportunities r almost always directly linked to the school you graduated from and ur englisg test score

[@BlackkCobra]

From what I can tell there isn't really an "ideal type" in Northern Europe. Everyone has their individual personal preferences. Although, I think good humor and fashion sense are the two things girls look most for here. Dating an asian guy is becoming wildly popular too.

[@chibisaru]

Your comment about the tall guy/short guy thing totally reminded me of this huge story that circulated in China a few years ago when a girl participating in a TV dating show stated that she'd rather cry in the back of a BMW than laugh on the back of a bicycle. There was a huge backlash against the girl calling her a gold digger and such but a lot of people also said that she was just saying what the majority of people thought and did but just didn't state it so blatantly on national tv.

[@ariyaleuanglitthidet4550]

Question: Are there any big news on the Korean television about people committing suicide or like, big places where people go to do things like that? And are there any places where you can run away to? (please nobody else reply to my comment i want to see if they'll choose my question) :P

[@DrFluffyPanda]

There is a popular "activity" in Korea now called "Fake Funerals" basically you pay money to go through the process of dieing. Write your wills, going into a coffin etc. Then after a few hours the people open the coffins to let them out. I guess its "rebirth"? Check it our on Vice Japan KZbin channel. they do an entire documentary on it. Hope this helps! P.S. South Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. Around 31 people per 100k? Somewhere along those numbers.

[@DrFluffyPanda]

TheSeductiveArts South Korea is number 2. I said South Korea had one of the highest suicide rates, not it had the highest suicide rate.

[@DeddeX]

TheSeductiveArts Sweden is number 44 in the world.Greenland is number 1.

[@Narivox]

Just in a few words. Korean girls just want a very tall korean guy.... with car. If your are short with car is ok, but you have to stay inside the car.

[@MrLOLKuro]

That's some high expectations there. How do girls with an ideal type like that even get a boyfriend?... My ideal type starts and ends with " a nice guy". Good looks might be a plus, but I believe if you love someone, then that person will be beautiful/handsome in your eyes.

[@Hanaquan]

The art student, coffee shop guy sounds perfect to me xD If the girls in Korea are turning these types of guys down then send them over to England! We'll take them~~

[@cateyloveskpop]

I know this sounds terrible but when you think about it it's true, I don't thonk Korean standards are out ragious they are the same ones that Americans had in the 50s like a woman should be well manneres and cook and a man should go to a good college and have a high paying job.

[@kressha]

Yeah but that was in the 50's. So you can see how outrageous this is in today's modern world. Like, get with the times people.

[@KalbiKing]

Kressha Ereno Like, different cultures people. The ethnocentrism is kinda ridiculous.

[@katiekrazie]

And if you think about it, Korean society today has a lot of parallels to American 50s society.

[@fooglez]

katiekrazie Not to mention a lot of their 50's inspired music lately..

[@kressha]

TheSeductiveArts I understand where you're coming from but we're talking about the way people think. Not style or fashion. Sure, Korea is slowly getting there but the world these days, people are starting to think differently. Women back then are subservient but that is clearly changing. Do you really think women will really go back to being subservient? I know I wouldn't.

[@xxFRANKENBANANAxx]

As a Korean girl that dropped out of one of the top law schools in Australia to go to art school, I know I'm gonna have a bad time going back to Korea this Christmas, ahaha. Bring on the soju!

[@hAiSuMiYuMi]

3:34 wow that makes me extremely sad... GO SELF ESTEEM MARTINA

[@Annaonesun]

My boyfriend might be slightly chubby and maybe his not the most handsome of guys, but I don't care about that. He's the kind of guy that cares a lot and is really easy to talk with. While other guys think kpop is weird and gay, he actually watched a couple of mv with me and said that it was actually pretty good. And he's a real nerd too sometimes. He loves Glee and Dr. Who (as do I) and we always fangirl together. So, for me, as long as I like that person, education, money and such is just a plus but not really of importance.

[@lauraguertin4308]

I never had an ideal guy. One day my current boyfriend for 5 years found me but at the time he was a mess so it was like anxiety rapped around a really nice guy and we're still together so now I'm just really happy !! And the best part is I taught him computers and found him an ideal 70,000 a year job that isn't too stressful because i love him and his family doesn't live in poverty anymore because of it :D I also taught him to eat right and exercise since I'm a karate teacher. But the bad part is he at first loved me for my looks until he realized I'm funny smart and amazing so that's my story!!

[@inkstained]

Aww I'm so happy for you

[@essennagerry]

I think it's ok if it's for the looks at first - as long as he did then fall inlove with you for your personality later on. :) If I were in your shoes and found that out I'd be a bit like "are you f serious?" at first, but then I'd be like "awww, you liked my looks THAT much?" hahahaha

[@bakedtarts]

I think we should just take all these ideals types with a pinch of salt. It's normally girlfriends just joking around and dreaming about their perfect future ;) Like how people say in reality, u will probably end up dating a guy who is not your ideal type, but yet both of u are happy together.

[@viviannguyen5805]

My ideal guy: 1.Has to be Asian(not trying to be races but yenno how parents r) 2.Laughs to almost anything 3.Cutesy and baby faced 4.Smart as me or a little smarter then me 5.Understands a girls feeling 6.Taller then me by atleast 4cm 7.does not have abs and has some arm muscle 8.loyal,confident 9.has lots of friends

[@christopherbennett6571]

If I was an ideal man, I would want an ideal girl...

[@cairn1027]

I agree with a few of the other comments- I'd like to see a female follow up to this. It seems like large eyes and light skin are important but what about their schooling, job, family, etc.? Is there a big difference in expectations?

[@jillschneider5014]

That last comment you mentioned about choosing between the art student and the guy who went to a university seems to be the constant theme in K-dramas regarding love triangles. Unfortunately, the university student wins pretty much all the time. Speaks a lot about the ideal man culture I guess, but it's still pretty disappointing. :-/

[@ohdaUtube]

it speaks more about the cost of living and the discrepancy between the haves and have nots. is it really that much different from the US?

[@jillschneider5014]

+ohdaUtube I'd say there are some more open-minded people in the US.

[@ohdaUtube]

Then according to your theory there's a lot of single people in Korea... Yeah, doesn't make sense... It's the same as here...

[@XDmangaXX]

My standards, sadly are too much unrealistic since I begun my kpop fan/anime fan life. First, I want to emphasize that I'm a plain/ugly girl, with not many qualities (I'm not being emo, I'm telling the truth), and this is why this gets so unrealistic, because what I expect is basically a super duper hot guy to be extremely in love with me, I don't think I have many more standards. Saaaad i'm so much superficial -.-

[@ArYaMdI]

You can always be a better person!

[@XDmangaXX]

***** should I suppose you are a resentful guy...?

[@user-ez5vq9fd2t]

HikariYumemi There are people like you on both sides of the spectrum, and there are all kinds of people out there (if you can imagine it, there is probably someone out there in the world just like him/her) so you never know! At least you know that it's unrealistic, so you won't be bummed out if it never happens XD

[@yui7star]

Well, you seem to somehow acknowledge, that you're influenced. How do you view guys overall? Do you have male friends? Can you talk with them about many things? If you have, then you can start from there. I mean, would you really be comfortable with a guy, who seems to think TOTALLY different, even to the extent, that you can't unterstand each other, like, never? Can you be open about your feelings with him? And is he comfortable with you? Maybe your view of love will become different with time and maybe some amazing (by that, I mean something like funny, self-confident, or just really nice and passionate about his hobbies) guy shows up, who's totally not meeting your expectations, but still makes your heart skip a beat :) and the same could happen to a guy meeting you. I saw a lot of couples, who were both not good-looking by the standards of society. But they were so in love with each other. They had respect, and trust for each other. And I mean, everybody has their own preferences, so why does it got to be that kind of beauty? So don't make yourself so down, maybe it needs time

[@XDmangaXX]

***** Thanks but many guys (and even my first boyfriend) have made fun of my appearance, so even though I think I look fine it seems like other people don't think the same way as I do.

[@harajuku2640]

u can have many specific criteria for your ideal type but in the end when u fall in love with someone those things wont even matter anymore..trust me..

[@GTInai]

My checklist... 1. Majoring in Computer Informational Science so I can work for LG or Samsung (Check) 2. Study abroad in S.K.Y. (Not checked, because I'm going to transfer to a uni that has Sogang Uni for studying abroad) 3. 180cm tall (Not checked, I'm 169cm) 4. Well, my family is going to stay in the U.S. when I move to South Korea so check. 5. I've never tasted soju (Not checked)

[@ThiefKingFlorence]

I could never understand having categories like that. I mean where's the sense of humour? Reads the same books as you? Likes the same films? Has similar hobbies? What kind of indicator is a person's height supposed to be when it comes to happiness in a relationship?

[@sophiadavid9227]

the ideal korean guy are: all the members of bangtan

[@lynnkueh]

Oh yes yes. This comment makes me so excited. Safely I don't think Kpop idols earn much compared to the amount of work they put in. For the first few years they only get a small allowance because they have to pay back their high loan to the companies. However JungKookie I don't care you are rich or poor because you are my ideal boyfriend! Ok that is a dream. Frankly I think girls can help contribute monetarily to the family as well.

[@migueltolentino7941]

yep so true yep agree 10000000000000000%

[@Shinchan-hr4wv]

YEEESSSS I want a guy like J-Hope he is soo energetic positive and dances goood

[@Shinchan-hr4wv]

YEEESSSS I want a guy like J-Hope he is soo energetic positive and dances goood

[@hannahloladohertson]

Sophia David I want my own jin tbh

[@neishahatake2890]

Honestly (I was born in Trinidad and Tobago) but I'll answer for the United States since I've been here for 10 years (I'm 16 now). It's pretty simple personality comes first. Most girls would like the guy to be taller have a humorous side, pay majority/half of the bills (if they live together or get married), and have manners. It's ok though if you're not a really tall guy because, nobody wants to be put on a pedestal for being perfect. I like that most American guys are so straight-up honest as well while dating because, I feel like a lot of K-dramas (which I l love) depict guys as way too shy and can't speak up. Also there's a lot more open skin ship here like holding hands, tight hugs, kissing (like a real kiss LOL), cuddling, and even remaining some distance away from each other because, American couples don't like to get on each other's last nerves. Most guys don't care about the size of their girlfriend because, like I said personality comes first. Also you don't plan who you end up falling into a relationship with because, it could end up working with anyone.

[@henrychiyangwong7202]

Korean be like: Goes to American for 1 year doesn't speak English Comes back claiming to speak English

[@henrychiyangwong7202]

+Sthefany Ferrer touché

[@ness6000]

I think korean boys shouldn't feel pressured because of this. Every boy is unique and handsome in his own way! Btw Martina your tattoo looks awesome with all these colors!!! :D

[@Nenona1200]

I feel like some of the comments kind of miss a few things, but here's my take on it: I'm American. Now, your average American girl might really like a rich guy, a guy who's thin and works out a lot--nice abs, a decent trust fund, fast car, a good job, pretty smile, curly hair, dashing and daring, quick as a coursing river, etc etc. Some of these things are general--like I'm totally cool with the pretty smile and curly hair, but the quick as a coursing river is entirely optional. Communication and an openness and willingness to share with me his thoughts and ideas are far more important. I feel like those things are unspoken but wanted ideals in any mate, for any person. For specifics for me, I'm very into the arty types who love books and as much as people mock hipsters, I'm totally cool with guys that can their own strawberry preserves and use beard oil. I would say compatibility varies for a lot of people though, and in the long run and interest in each other and a willingness to work for that interest is the most important thing. But yeah, when people say "korean women want so much." I'd say that out of a survey if 40 women say they want a guy who works for Samsung, LG, or Kia--then that goes on the list, meanwhile the 1-5 women who would totally date a coffee shop owner don't really get mentioned because it wasn't a top 5 answer. Likewise, I assume women are answering the question based on an "ideal" fictional mate, which doesn't exist. Say you could "order up" the ideal spouse, what would s/he be? The reality for myself is that after being very close to someone, the ideal spouse is someone who enjoys my company and makes passing the time a pleasant thing. For others, they never really experienced a relationship like this and mostly just think of things that would make their personal lives better(money, status) rather than the intangible things that require a lot of fancy work to express. So "He makes lots of money" is a natural answer for someone who believes that will lead to happiness.

[@parreno76]

nice comment. I like your analogy. I think I would not want to date a woman that just want me for financial stability. It happened once and I learned my lesson. I have a feeling that most men think the same thing as I do.

[@davecameron3648]

Josef Parreno They don't think the same way as you do, otherwise expectations would change for us. I'm doing a double major and fulfilling the requirements for med school right now, and it's hard work, but I'm doing it for myself and not some girl I haven't met yet. It makes you paranoid that all potential significant others want is your money, I will say.

[@parreno76]

***** i do not think it is 99 percent. I think a woman like that is one in a million or i even dare say one in a billion. Maybe you are unique, but i doubt a woman would date a poor man for his personality and for loving her in reciprocity.

[@anas8190]

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[@x7557x]

Well, i'm tall too. That's why sometimes i don't feel comfortable with short guys, even though i like them too. If i was short, i wouldn't really care about heights.

[@sylvaay]

I kinda don't care...I guess I'm just waiting...I'm eighteen and I've never been in a real relationship. I always say that because of K-pop my expectations are way too high now, but I face reality pretty easily... I just want a friend for life and someone who can make me laugh when I feel down, someone who will learn about my interests and I can learn about theirs, a relationship that works both ways. I want to be me and feel happy.

[@TiffanySNSD7]

"You might meet somebody who is a dinosaur who likes to dance!" LOL DONGWOO

[@dakokanadko254]

Thank goodness you are teaching your students that essentially the personality or person and the way that they treat you rises far above materials or any materialistic belongings. Those who have positive characteristics to share are to be treasured just as well as you should be! It sounds a little bit scary that this way of thinking may potentially become a danger in the domestic violence rate rising no matter what country you are from.

[@x3ar]

Just discovered your channel because im gonna be in seoul in the summer of 2014, I want to say your vids are awsome and amazingly produced, funny, well edited the whole shabang.

[@pantalonesenfuego]

As a Chinese-American, I was told by my parents to look for someone with my ethnic background in addition to the laundry list of (superficial) success. I dated exactly one person my parents approved of and ended the second date early because he was SO. BORING. Someone with a list of physical requirements they're looking for in a partner isn't gonna be the type you want to be involved with anyway, because eventually they'll find something about you that isn't good enough. (Conversely, if you have ridiculous standards for a potential partner, you better live up to them yourself.) Then again... if two shallow, beautiful people want to be rich and dissatisfied together, who am I to judge?

[@ridiculousspider]

I don't much care about United States ideals when it comes to men. My physical ideal has always been tall, lean, with dark hair and blue eyes. I am in love with a guy who is shorter than me, stocky, has brown eyes, and shaves his head because he's been balding since high school. He is also one of the funniest, sweetest, most considerate guys I've ever met. We laugh so much when we're together. He doesn't try to change me. He is pretty awesome. Give me that over physical ideals any day. :D

[@lulululalalaa]

the same thing happened to me, my boyfriend is the total opposite of my ideal guy physically. but he has a great personality and i'm happier with him than with any other guy, so why would that matter? :)

[@sparklesugarskittles]

I think I am starting to understand why Tom Hiddleston is so popular in South Korea. I mean he is pretty much the physical ideal for all of these standards...except he isn't Korean.

[@pastelchu]

Does Soozee, having graduated from art school, know a good deal about the Korean contemporary art scene? It would be cool if you guys did a video about the top artists who are at the forefront of innovation and discovery in Korea. Also, add WANK to some really cool gallery cafe's and art museums in Korea. Oh! By the way, I heard the new multi-milliion dollar modern art museum opened in Seoul. You guys should check that out for us! Go science!

[@shawol4lyfee]

I know a ton of guys who are 6 foot and over. I just really like tall guys. But yo, I don't really care that much about all of that material business. I would like to marry someone who can have a decent and really intellectual conversation with me. I'm really sciencey and it seems like all of the guys I have been attracted to are intimidated by me because I'm smarter than them. I'm like, SUCKS FOR YOU GIVIN UP HOT MOMMA BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN'T BE BETTER THAN ME, LOL. It is really disheartening, though. A lot of guys want to feel superior to their girlfriends, I want someone who treats me as an equal. It's surprisingly common for guys to have this I inferiority complex and I hate it. Just accept that a girl can be better than you, shit.

[@StarHasArrived95]

You stole the thoughts straight from my brain! xD But for me, not only does my "intelligence" intimidate them but apparently my height does as well. :(

[@DianaJ01]

O.o Girl, when did you read in my brain, that I didn't notice?! °A° Haha! Joking ^^ I TOTALLY agree with you! And since my story is the exact same as yours... errr... I've never had a boyfriend. AND NO ONE BELIEVES ME! *sighs** Well, actually is that situation plus the fact that I don't need/want a boyfriend O.o I just want a good friend, not looking for something more~

[@CreepyRuxi]

I feel you. I've had guys ditch me for that reason a few times. It makes no sense, would they rather talk to a girl who doesn't understand them?

[@StarHasArrived95]

CreepyRuxi ikr! That makes no sense at all to me either.

[@StarHasArrived95]

***** I have read that, and it is indeed refreshing :)

[@yzee8582]

This actually is the SAME as Chinese culture haha The reason why they would prefer height or university title than being treated better, is because Asian people value honor and respect from others alot and being physically tall and having graduated from a good uni guarantees that people in your surrounding will look up to you. yeah...

[@ismilo8945]

When they say 'art' schools, they meant 'art' as in painting and sculpture. There are also other types of art-related school for acting and singing like performing art schools where lot of idols go to. Some of these schools are very easy to get in and as long as you work in your real life career, you freely get credits to graduate. On the other hand, there are some well known, traditional, famous acting schools like where some of well known actors like Han SeokKyu (from 'deep rooted tree'), Choi MinShik (from 'old boy') ect. went. There are very hard to get in, and only handful idols have been accepted. I think Suho from Exo is one of them.

[@ZOA360]

Those poor stressed Korean Guys :( Solution: Send More American Girls to Korea! :D lol Or If you're an American Guy ~ Please Send Your X to Korean! That way You don't have to see her face again, While doing Korean Boys a favor! ~ Spread the Love!! lol

[@AmbieShinee]

I'LL gladly go!!!! I prefer Korean men anyways. :)

[@mslollo00]

I don't get why being tall is sooo important, I actually prefer short guys (not too short though) over tall guys, it's adorable :S

[@MultiINinja]

Ask girls in Sweden and they will answer the same. Height is such a generic criteria for beauty nowadays that anyone you ask, boys or girls, they would answer ''Aww, I want a tall partner''.

[@mslollo00]

omg I live in Sweden and I agree :D though most tall guys and some short guys I've talked to would rather date someone who's a bit shorter than them :) jackpot for me lol

[@kuroichan101]

I dont get why being tall is sooo important either and taller people dont live as long as short people I heard from some science channel

[@theycallmequeen6273]

kuroichan101 lol that makes no sense. How does height make someone have a shorter life span. LMAO. I can't stop laughing from this comment.

[@kuroichan101]

Rachel Jackson I watched a science video on why and how. And if you actually look up things on the tallest people in the world most of them dont live very long. Look up the video on youtube and it explains it. Im a person who is very interested in science.

[@moonprism22]

now i feel interested in knowing what is that a korean guy is looking for in a girl. if girls have so many requests. korean boys should have their own request too. For a future TLDR i would be interested to know that :)

[@Jun3Awzme]

My ideal type is someone who's open minded, kind and funny. That's like the most important. But if i had to go into details i would also say that he should be taller than me (which is no prob since i'm really small), i like guys with dark hair and eyes, cute smile, and tanner than me. (i'm so damn pale no joke). That's it!

[@mickey725]

those criterias are quite similar to an ideal man in HK, but more so because HK women are becoming more and more educated and holding higher and more well-paid positions in companies, so they also become more picky with men. They still want their boyfriends/husbands to be more successful and be able to take care of them, but that's hard if the woman is already making $20000HKD/month.

[@PowerRangerDuelist]

Yunho is my ideal man, not because he's part of my favorite music group. NO LIE. He's gentlemanly and such a hard worker. He's like an ANGEL.

[@mypinkcookiez]

+mastereddie101 I'm American and I prefer a guy with a nice personality over a bad boy...stop stereotyping americans. And seriously bad boys aren't a thing anymore *ahem* One Direction ( I don't listen to One Direction myself but I can tell you that a whole lotta girls like em and they're not "bad boys" they're clean cut, young, and british) But am I saying all american girls like One Direction? No. People have their preferences, and just because the media makes us out to be bad boy loving girls doesn't mean that we actually DO that

[@NiurTarow]

I always thought I would fall for someone tall, dark and handsome. I met a guy who was none of those things except tall, thought to myself "Well, no chance of that then", got to know him, and fell in love. Now I find him very handsome indeed, because he's mine.

[@sarahTHElee]

But then again the IDEAL Korean Women is also Unrealistic and a lot of korean guys go for looks. It is really pressuring to be the ideal Korean women because not only do you have to be pretty, but also you have to cook well, be smart, have a nice job, have a submissive personality(basically listens to husband), and etc. Maybe you guys should make a video on Ideal women in korea?

[@zuziiite1]

For me, and idk why, I like people for their personalities, even though, I care much about peoples appereances, but somehow I keep seeing the beauty in everyone (inside and outside)

[@Haylem]

I meet most of these requirements, but I'm not looking for a girl...there's a girl that I've had a crush on for 13 years. I'm 19...

[@jennychen6364]

don't worry as long as you aren't in the friend zone you should be good to go

[@Haylem]

Jenny chen I haven't talked to her in like 10 years. But she's like amazingly beautiful, I can't even talk to another girl without thinking about her. Even she comes in my dreams... She kinda motivated me to sing/play instruments. :/

[@julesv_]

Vince Haylem Dude, talk to her O.o

[@user-ez5vq9fd2t]

As a guy knowing how much emphasis society/media puts on outer appearance of women, these ideal men expectations are well-deserved--especially in Korea where image is almost everything. If men want their women to be everything they're pressured to be, then men should be held to a high standard, as well. One side can't blame the other (although I do believe it was men who started the whole thing).

[@NikoruNinja]

Considering I'm 5"1', I would really appreciate a guy taller than me. Even if it's just so I don't have to climb on the counter-tops all the time OTL

[@nildaalvarado9026]

haha I know exactly what you mean (^_^)

[@Bernicetiff]

Now that you've talked about the ideal Korean man. What are the standards for an ideal Korean woman?? Also, why is an Arts University the lowest form of university anyway? You've talked about height... Ermagod...I immediately thought of poor Jonghyun, only 173 cm. Don't worry Jonghyun, you have a good fashion sense, you are polite and have a great voice!

[@Mooshrambo]

Can you make a TL;DR for the daring standards women are held to as well? Slightly curious about that.

[@harriettilley750]

For me personally, if I found a guy that is sweet, kind and funny with a great sense of humour then I'd snap him up in two seconds! I couldn't care less about how much money they have or where they went to university.

[@aziel3312]

My ideal type: 1. Be Really Responsible 2. Be Average Looking 3. Be Sweet/Nice 4. Be Taller than me That's about it, but I do like to occasionally fantasize about good-looking men sweeping me off my feet. What heterosexual single girl doesn't? :)

[@TaoRin_VVHL]

Well, tbh I don't really have an idea type (I think?), I think you just unexpectedly fall for a certain person. being a kpp fan, I have a bias in everyone of my best groups, but tbh, they all have different looks and personalities (except maybe for Leeteuk and Tao that both LOVE spotlights XDD) anyway, my ultimate bias is TAO hehe

[@TaoRin_VVHL]

ideal*

[@OtakuSeikatsuTamashi]

Karoui Syrine What's "tbh"?

[@muXikera02498]

***** to be honest

[@TaoRin_VVHL]

***** to be honest haha

[@katson88]

gull, you have a great taste in men. Tao? The Huang Zitao? good choice!

[@bfenerli]

Hi Simon and Martina, I hope this isn't an annoying request but I was wondering if it was possible at all to group your videos into categories/folders (not too sure if KZbin allows it), like all of the TL;DR videos in a group, all of the WTF Korea videos in a group etc.etc. I only ask because I want to watch all of them but sometimes I miss one here and there because they can be difficult to find.

[@AiSherryChan]

I love how you put Siwon on the thumbnail.

[@won1853]

Where did you find these things???? The standards you mentioned are really for "ideal" men, as in they don't really exist in the real world lol. If a girl is actually looking for someone like that, she is delusional. The majority of Korean men are shorter than 180cm, didn't go to SKY universities, don't make that much money, and have no experience living overseas. I don't know where you got the information (I hope it's not Soo Zee), but as a Korean man I find those "standards" really ridiculous.

[@9MeNotYou3]

That's why it's called "ideal" :D nobody can ever meet these expectations, but women tend to dream of a perfect fairytale prince...

[@GingerLadies]

I think this is just what parents tell their daughters... And they end up believing it. When I move to Korea and teach English, I will talk to my students about this (probably as a Valentine's Day lesson) and maybe sharing about my country's dating culture will open their eyes and make them think more realistically.

[@GomChingu]

not surprising at all with all the dramas out there. dramas influence people

[@KelseaRoxOutLoud]

I don't think they were saying it as in every Korean woman wants those and won't settle for anything less. I think it's more like that's the perfect man to a lot of Korean girls and they know they don't exist. Just like how a bunch of North American women want tall, dark and handsome, who's smart, funny, not obnoxious, smells good, has good teeth, etc. It could go on forever. It's just a fun thing. I could only image what the "ideal woman" is.

[@nathiicf]

But it's kind of true u_u my Korean friends here in Canada are really crazy about those things, if the guy is tall and he has a car then, anything else matters xD

[@lashondamatlock]

Even here in the US Korean American men feel the K-pop PERFECT standards now. My boyfriend has the natural height, ivy league education, works for the government and now obsessed with his body. His idol choice -RAIN. We go to the gym together 3 or 4 times a week now lol

[@si-qiho5683]

I'd love to hear about the ideal Korean woman because I'm sure they are expected to be things that are far more ridiculous. Great vid Simon and Martina, plus WIN for naked dancing!!!

[@cynanpramis1539]

this episode is just hilarious! Anyway, good luck to both korean male/ female in finding their ideal mate! May they find happiness in their relationships...

[@ChimuJin]

I don't think we have an ideal... It's more about meeting "the one" and that could really be anybody depending on your preferensens. Not that finding Mr. Right is easier than finding Mr. Perfect (having all ideals you just listed)... But it seems like you guys have done it anyway, finding the one, so it is possible :)

[@Nvrloptimism]

I hope people thumbs up or at least make this aware. You must ask WHY there are these kinds of standards (university, height, double eyelids, etc) in Korea. I'd say that Koreans in general have a culture of flexing and showing off more so than North America in general. In fact, I've had some real encounters of korean people who go OUT OF THEIR WAY ( you wouldn't believe) to show their friends or parents about how well their lives are. Because relationships is part of your identity, of course these impersonal standards will prevail. Basically, korean girls don't want tall guys for themselves as much as wanting to SHOW OFF to THEIR girlfriends that they have a tall boyfriend.

[@pepitandrea]

hellooooo ^_^ My question may sound a little strange, but I'd like to know about funerals in Korea and what are the differences between American?

[@Konoshy]

Not strange at all. It's a cultural question.

[@Stahlherz]

I laughed so hard when Simon did the "strip" thing xD my stomach hurts so bad xDDD

[@Regenbogenwurm1]

In my Country (Germany) it's not like this. For example art school people can be very interesting for other people ;) (I am huhuhu) And it's very much about the personality and love and so on. I never had anyone ask about the university because of such a matter, maybe the job might be more interesting in the end. And there are also girls who wait for their ideal type who just understands them, looks good and is a little taller. Maybe is a good kisser also and a little romantical ..... That might be the ideal type of many girls ;) I have a boyfriend and from his lookings he is not at all my ideal type xD (that would be GD haha) but it's so much more important to feel good around this person, to be able to talk about everything, laugh and cry and know each other.

[@Lilithly]

yup, I concur. Plus I think since there is no such thing as "best university" or "in the top ten"here, so nobody cares what university you go to. I personally would prefer my boyfriend to not be stupid, but that's about it. if he went to an art school that'd be great! ^^

[@RosidaI]

I feel like it's really different here in Sweden. I think that most people here just think getting along and really being in love is the important thing :)

[@tamaraal-saraf2215]

Suzie didn't you go to at school? Size: ..... yeah Simon & Martina: *laugh obnoxiously* 😂😂😂

[@92Cihan]

About the last thing you said: i think the same way and i really hope that only a few koreans think like that it's more important to have money and a stable job then have the same interests and a well-mathing personality in a relationship. But on the other hand, i think its maybe not only an issue in the korean culture but also there people all over the world which look first at the money you earn and which kind of social status you have. I live in Germany and i think its quite the same here. The're a lot of people who are superficial and to them its more important to have a super good-looking friend who has a lot of friends ( even if they are fake like for example "1000 friends in your buddylist on Facebook ) and is well acknowledged in society. by the way, i enjoy to watch your videos about the korean culture and also the kpop monday vids - its very interesting! keep it up ;) p.s. i'm sorry that my english isn't the best. i know that and i practice to become a better speaker/writer

[@jessicaaksskjold41]

well, to be honest, i dont care about which university he come from, cause im not going to date his university grades... :o and the height ~ i rather date a guy thats aroung 170 cm xD cause im 160 cm so i dont want anyone thats like 185, i mean, that would be very awkward! xD the money, i dont really care about that eitherway, i come from a kinda poor family (i mean not poor, but we dont have alot of money either, but we still live fine :D) so im raised with not to much money and with the thoughts that money isnt everything, as long as there is enough for food and house and other important stuff then its fine :D xD

[@paolojayraquino8411]

(y)

[@jessicaaksskjold41]

Paolo Jayr Aquino heii!^^ haha

[@paolojayraquino8411]

amen to your point of view ^^

[@jessicaaksskjold41]

Paolo Jayr Aquino haha thank you i guess? :D

[@MrDizzank]

good for you. You're a keeper...

[@scorpenya]

Thank God I live in a country where you just love people for what they are not for what they have! The university one graduates from, the job one has, the car one drives, the amount of money one earns, etc. are all secondary priorities for us Portuguese women! There's no ideal prototype of a perfect man, we just love for the sake of love!