What's the Ideal Korean Woman?

[@aiviii1018]

"Oppa, I'm scared and so glamorously confident!" can't stop laughing XD

[@standreamcatcher6819]

and "that's called having a sugar momma" 😂

[@CrzyAmy24]

"oppa im scared... and sooo glamorously confident" I DIED LAUGHING even tho this is like my 3rd time watching this episode. idk, u guys are very fun to watch

[@eatyourkimchi]

For those of you who don't have the time to watch this, the simple answer to the question is this: The Ideal Girl in Korea is...Fangurilla. That is all.

[@Monti-ko]

Fangurilla is the ideal girl in every country.

[@aditiXkami]

Murasaki B HELL YES XD Fangurilla should be a Miss Korea xD

[@AfizaFarhana]

She my queen...XD

[@daphnehuari4655]

Lol the TL;DR to the TL;DR XD

[@dibidibidis2896]

Don't forget about the ideal man in Korea --> Fan Man

[@alexisoid893]

I asked one of my korean friends about what her parents do and she said my father is doctor then i ask what about your mom she said shes a doctors wife 😂😂😂

[@김아리자]

lol ㅋㅋ

[@majora231]

+Alexis Oid That is so fukin sad :D

[@FunkyPrank]

+majora231 Well, its not sad if the mom enjoys or doesnt mind being a housewife.

[@Piiichanx3]

+FunkyPrank then she would be the "housewife" and not just the doctor's wife

[@danieladifoggia9019]

ahhahaahaha this is crazy really

[@GotoMaki4Micah]

That inner beauty is going to start to matter real fast once they get married and move in together.

[@ohdaUtube]

not if the cost of goods and cost of living is detrimentally high... Then they'll wish they had a husband who could provide a comfortable life instead of struggling. big gap between haves and have nots

[@daphnix.]

+Ayumi Vasquez not really because the husband will work so much overtime that he won't ever see his wife or kids.

[@Cassy858]

I think the best relationships are the ones where, first and foremost, both partners are independent and happy with themselves (mental health and happiness is important) and when they come together, they are able to respect and love each other just the same, if not grow stronger together. If one partner feels that the other partner should not do what they want to do to feel happy and self-sufficient, then that really just relfects that one partner's insecurities and to be honest, that's really a big turn-off. That's not love in my opinion. I love it when I can admire someone and like them for who they are and they can do just the same for me. Love is about appreciation, not possession. I learned what not to do from my parent's relationship.

[@eric9901]

You hit the nail right on the head!!!

[@vixxcelacea2778]

Casandra Lopez My relationship of 3+ years I feel is pretty solid. Both of us have mental issues, but our issues are ego-dystonic (meaning we can recognize them as issues, because they're not personality based). I agree that mental health is definitely important. For us, it's the only thing that we remotely have issues with. We've never faught, but it's pretty shitty to be depressed or cry or feel angry because of your issues that are so difficult to fix, as well as of course personal RL stuff that can happen. Both of us were ... well, fairly content being on our own. When we met, we were not looking for anyone and hadn't been for a while. Not to say that looking for someone is a bad thing, but you need to be at least relatively ok with your life and not expect your partner to fix it. A partner is like really awesome food. You need to be ok surviving on the basics, but once you have the really awesome food, you don't want to let it go. Kinda hard to explain, so I hope that made sense.Give and take, you both need to bring something to the relationship. And communication, that's pretty much the most important thing. If you're upset tell them, directly and talk it through. And they should show the same courtesy.My parents (I've actually disowned both of them) were the opposite of a good relationship, abuse, both have severe personality disorders, had a kid when they couldn't afford it ... aaaaand, married in 3 weeks of knowing each other .... yeah.

[@peekaboo5925]

while this ideal relationship + virtue is preferred and VERY rare... it doesn't exactly work out with things hitting you in reality... Inb4Divorces.

[@aclock2]

People who go to blind dating do not look for true love. What they want is a likeable person who can satisfy their material needs. Moreover, there is nothing wrong with being dependent on one another, the Desire to be independent from your partner may be the reflection of your insecurity about the relationship ( But it's probably a right thing to do in Western culture considering the massive divorce rate ).

[@TalkingCheeseBurgerr]

So true. I'm happy to see more and more young people realizing what love should be like.☺️

[@eatyourkimchi]

English subs are now up, if you want em!

[@itskindofemily]

Yay

[@potatoprsk]

cool

[@WordsAndWhimsy]

Guess I'm not snagging me a Korean man lol. I don't cook. I don't clean. I consider children to be a martian subspecies. And....that cute while being sexy thing sounds waaaay too complicated. I will stick with fangirling from afar :P

[@spiesvsidiots]

Being sexy and cute is easy. You have that young soul most the time, but you also have that mature on top, you got it.

[@WordsAndWhimsy]

spiesvsidiots That's a cool way to look at it ^.^ I'll try to keep that in mind next time I try to channel my inner Korean girl. Something tells me though that I'm just going to come off as being a creepy ahjumma XD

[@FushiguroMegumi79]

Cute and sexy at the same time is the ONLY way I do it ;D

[@WordsAndWhimsy]

The only time I can do either one is by accident lol.

[@jacquelinevieux1130]

*rethinks marrying kpop stars*

[@senpaitama8778]

Jacqueline Vieux daehyun??

[@jacquelinevieux1130]

Yep😂 Yongguk???

[@senpaitama8778]

Jacqueline Vieux yes!! finally im seeing more BAP fans

[@An-np4yn]

*rethinks* Jimin: As long as she's beautiful inside and out, I will love her. *marries*

[@kendarktower7799]

@@An-np4yn in AND is what jimin says so, still haha sorry. Rethink

[@loey735]

"I'm looking for someone who's kind, caring and super-ugly." 😂😂😂

[@mukkaar]

My ideal girlfriend has to be awesome. I'll decide on what awesome includes when I meet her.

[@STasugx]

Of course appearance matters in every part of th world. But Korea, unfortunately, seems to care much more about appearance than anyone else I can think of. I've found that even America doesn't place as much emphasis on looks. America has plenty of average looking people in the entertainment industry, and in other industries, they'll hire based on qualifications and social skills- not beauty. Korea's great for a lot of things, but lack of superficiality isn't one of them.

[@crystalite15]

Nah~ couldn't hack it in Korea. I'm way too outspoken to put up with that.

[@ositopanda8955]

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[@eatyourkimchi]

Also, subs in Arabic by @Fatima S again. Thank you!

[@eatyourkimchi]

Korean subtitles available now as well, thanks to 손휘빈!

[@AKAMrBiggs]

*****​ nominated

[@MischaVladimir]

Eat Your Kimchi Wow, never expected an ambient track to be played in one of your videos. Can you tell me the name of the song? It's in the last 10 seconds of your video.

[@MischaVladimir]

Eat Your Kimchi Wow, never expected an ambient track to be played in one of your videos. Can you tell me the name of the song? It's in the last 10 seconds of your video.

[@phant0m0th_]

I've noticed this when kpop idols are asked about their ideal types. There all stated what they look for in appearances (except for Xiumin...) I've rarely heard them speak about personality.

[@angelamao123]

loool our minseok hyung :PP

[@phant0m0th_]

^ he said he didn't care in one of their interviews when he was still known as baozi ^^

[@alexisaproxx]

Yep, pretty much. My family encourages me to study and get a good job but also emphasizes that I'll need to cook, clean, and take care of my future husband and children.

[@sandiezzz]

i see what you mean. kinda the same for me. education is important but cleaning and cooking is also a necessity

[@alexisaproxx]

Yeah. I mean it's not like I don't want to do that stuff but I feel I shouldn't be the only one. My dad has recently started helping out so my family is becoming more open to women not being the only ones doing housework, well my immediate family. The rest of my family either says the mother should work, cook, and clean and the children should help her clean. They don't make mentions of the husband helping her though... My family's hispanic by the way.

[@NereydaRubio]

ditto

[@eatyourkimchi]

Hungarian subs now available, thanks to @Judit L

[@mariadelosangeledarayaadro9035]

colo colo

[@eatyourkimchi]

French subs now up, thanks to @moket02!

[@TheChaoticLoser]

I just want to say Martina is really really (like REALLY) pretty in this video.

[@OLW401]

I just thought the same... sorry to say that to your wife Simon But Martina is Hot qith that hair dude... u'll have some fight to do soon to keep her with you hahaha

[@Egirl01]

Yeaahhhhh my dad has raised me with the "do well in school, go to a good college, get a well-paying job, THEN get married" mentality. He doesn't like the idea of me or my sister being dependent on our future husbands, and frankly, I don't either. I hate cooking and doing ANY sort of cleaning in the kitchen sooooo looks like I'm gonna have to stick to finding a Western boyfriend :P

[@AmbiambiSinistrous]

Your dad's wise: if you aren't independent (financially OR emotionally) from your prospective partners, then you can be stuck depending on somebody who you actually aren't in love with or who doesn't treat you well, just because leaving them would be difficult. (There might be reasons why one or both of you would sacrifice your independence for the other further down the line, e.g. you get married decide to have kids and one of you leaves their job to take care of the kids, but at least at the point in the relationship where you haven't decided to like, spend the rest of your lives together, it's better to be independent!)

[@omgwtfbbqstfu]

Being terrible at cooking and cleaning is a bit if a tiresome thing to say at this point. Its kind of like bragging you are above normal things, above everyday drudgery. Its like a man being proud he can't fix a car or even change a flat tire, its actually pathetic. Unless people are so rich they can pay for everything to be done for them, theres no point pretending this work doesn't have to be done. Western boyfriends aren't going to clean anymore unless they are beta males...and in such case you probably don't want them in the first place. Put it this way, if women really wanted to marry a wife, they would. Saying you hate doing this or that or refuse to do it, well why would that make you a good bargain as a spouse?

[@AmbiambiSinistrous]

francis chow Is your life really nothing more than the sum of its parts, the material achievements and skills you have acquired over time? Is there not a more meaningful story that comes from your life experiences that only someone really special can understand, and whose story only you understand, such that you are invaluable to each other? If not, I hope you find someone you deserve and that they don't dump you when they meet someone who has slightly more money or looks or status. You sound like someone who's really into pick-up; I admire the emphasis on self-improvement, but I think the reasoning for that self-improvement is all wrong and that it reinforces negative gender roles. (I don't know that you follow it though, so I won't say more yet.)

[@Egirl01]

francis chow A good bargain? In my ideals, marriage isn't a bargain. I'll be marrying a guy because we like each other first, and THEN we can assign roles. If I am going to be working just as much as he is then HE needs to do just as much cleaning. I'm not saying I'm shifting all the cleaning and cooking to him, I'm saying that it will be split in half. These are my ideals, these are the ideals I plan on keeping. You can go bargain to find a wife if you want to. Have fun.

[@kashuunFAN]

How's Korean TV? I mean, what kind of TV shows are usually popular in Korea? Are there many reality shows, or K-dramas or music or news, educational? Do you like korean TV programs?

[@naokyuuketsuki064]

here in mexico is most like korea but it is slowly changing :) like me , i don't want to get married and stay at home , i want to work i want to be a team if i get married , i truly believe in gender equality , i think both parts should make the same amount of work

[@cyriewilson3170]

Yeah~ I think I'll stay single...

[@vikkki]

Ugh, I hate these sort of ideals. I was grunting through the part how Korean women can still work and have a career if they want, but then they are expected to take care of their kids and feed her husband while the husband can just work and that's it. This reminds me too much of my parents. But the sad thing is that my dad has been unemployed for years and eventually retired but he doesn't help out in the family at all while my mom work her butt off and also take care of chores. That's why I grew up disliking the inequality on male and female. Share the friggin' load! Men and women should be treated as equals!

[@KissingKeKe]

Sidenote Martina: I really love your hair slicked back in a ponytail like that. It really looks good.

[@nekonari22]

You guys were talking about what to eat after work that day... Too easy! Need another love language you two!

[@angelajang1]

this was very stressful to watch as korean women cuz it's true

[@xeliberg33x]

I freaking hate gender 'roles' .. if you want to work, work. if you want to take care of the kids, do that. if you want to make dinner, do that too. people shouldn't automatically assume that the woman should do everything in the house. women and men should stand as equals.

[@mauxuwon6252]

most of the girls like to be treated lik a princess???? Most of the men are voilent??? Women have softer body than men. Men have aprox 10 million braincells than womrn and I think there are a lot more female prostitutes than male. It's a MAN's world! Even The God created ADAM first. Though I agree with u- people should do wut they want as long the don't hurt other

[@yvonnetaylor9331]

purplehaze216 perm, the discovery of germs, and the foundational algorithms that allow computers to function. No Google. It is unfair to compare inventions of women and men because women historically in almost all countries women were not in environments that nurtured their creativity and ingenuity, like men. They were taught only to be housewives and caretakers, therefore, to be consumers not creators and producers. However, I bet most of the common things around our homes were created by women to make their lives easier (brooms, mops, diapers, etc). Women were under their husbands authority therefore it is also very possible that women came up with inventions, but gave them to their husbands to take credit for so that the invention would be taken seriously. There are even many female writers who wrote under male pen names or published books under their husband's name. Don't underestimate women. It is egocentric and the underestimation of women that have men falling behind in today's society. I suggest you stop classifying women in that way and learn to see them as equals, because women are earning their spot in society.

[@eatyourkimchi]

Spanish subtitles now up, too! Thank you for making them :D

[@Bourkes15]

+Simon and Martina I really wish i watched you guys before i went on my 3 week holiday in Korea

[@satisfactory7204]

WHOA MARTINA YOU LOOK REALLY NICE IN PURPLE

[@satisfactory7204]

AND REALLY NICE WITH A HIGH PONYTAIL

[@goizza]

I just watched Skoolooks's MV featuring BAP and A Pink and then I really curious about Korean high school uniform. Does each school have their own special uniform? (like what we watched in dramas) But why do they like sell them in department store? I mean, in my country, we had special uniform that different from another school so our school will bought us the fabrics and we will go get tailors to do it. So it's impossible to find our uniforms in department store since there are many high schools, different uniforms, different logos etc. But from Korean dramas, it seems that we can easily find our uniform in clothing outlets. Or there are some uniform brands and their school pick one of their design? Or maybe, do high school students change their uniform to a new one a lot so there are many stores that sell them?

[@1kaaa]

LOL, perfect intro! "You have to be pretty. That's it." It's so true.

[@adityamenon]

It's the same in India, unfortunately the majority still thinks like this.

[@adityamenon]

"The class system" has been broken down quite extremely, in cities it has no relevance, except around elections when politicians exploit the clan divisions. Not sure if it is worse here, haven't been to Korea, but it _is_ pretty bad that I know. The main barrier to change is super conservative upbringings that are unrealistic about the modern, progressive world.

[@FreshSalad645]

On time, my grandma told me I needed to learn to take care of the house to please my future husband, I looked at her like "what?" and answered "I'm never going to wash his underwear, ever". So she said I'd never find a husband. It's fine by me in that case. I want to be someone's loved one, share the responsibilities with that person, chores and kids alike, no to be someone's maid. Anyway, wait until you see me clean, I have no idea what I'm doing. Ahahaha my husband would fire me xD

[@grlpower1]

Like I always say "Maids Died" Unless you are rich then that's another story. A guy has arms and legs so he better make use of those body parts. There a lot of people that would want their limbs if they have no use to using it.

[@SamachTheFirst]

This is the case for South Asian culture too.

[@shineehellokitty9916]

yeahhh... pretty much... : )

[@Mermerin]

I believe most of the Asian cultures are like this

[@nonirules]

HAHAH yeeeaaaahhhhhh.... I was like "wow, this sounds familiar".

[@legend143]

haha well here in the philippines it is only half true, it is still the "ideal" setup where the husband works to bring bread to the table while the mom does all the housework and takes care of the children but i find that it is not of great concern if the both work or if the father stays at home while the mom works...we are kinda open that way.... :D

[@Chezmeralda]

legend143 That would be because the Philippines is still a third world country and more behind when it comes to economy when you compare it to other Asian countries. All the women in my family work, too, because they can't afford to not work.

[@supa3ek]

Not all Asian men want a wife who sits at home all day doing choirs! I would prefer a happy wife who is independent and has her own goals ! And I would gladly help her achieve them because ....happy wife .....happy life : )

[@animeaires1210]

Looks come first then comes personality in Korea. Even though it should be the other way around.

[@davidhill8565]

I despise people who judge the Korean way in this case. I despise people who put looks on a pedestal. I also despise Asian women who aspire to traditional Western ideals of beauty. South Korea has the most narrow standard of beauty.

[@jukkis6699]

David Hill Goddamn man, you really like to judge despite saying you hate judging XD

[@cocodakilla]

And they dont everywhere else? People let their stupid preferences come before someone's heart or personality

[@peekaboo5925]

no one is forcing you to date/marry a korean person.. and neither can you tell them what they can or cannot do especially when its a very old-conservative country. at least the men take care of their family and household where as most people can't even put food on the table and does other shit instead of investing in their children/taking care of wife/parents. There's a reason why korea has extremely low divorce rates compared to the rest of the world. And whatever it is, its keeping families together, and not ruining their kid's lives.

[@cocodakilla]

UltimateBoo Your mindset is so disgusting! That is why millions of domestic violence and rape cases aren't reported in asia. The backwards mindset where you should stay with someone for the kids. What if you are abused? Raped? You are fighting all the time? The people I meet who have divorced parents are perfectly FINE. They are happy they didn't end up like the kids whos parents didn't. Those kids aren't stupid. They know what happens in the parents lives and then start to become sad and it affects behaviour! Many in the east would divorce if it wasn't for the stigma still associated with it. They would report rape. A divorcee or single parent can provide more love separately than two people might. People should not break up for small things like they do today however. I do know people who have mini arguments and then BOOM they are divorced. THAT is stupid. It is happening more often. Other than that cheating is a main cause. Should a person stay with a cheater? Even if they provide lots of money? Or will the person being cheated on have to be called a DOORMAT and GOLD DIGGER. Society has so many issues. Abuse of any kind shouldn't be tolerated. Good people deserve good people. just because someones eastern, it doesn't mean they are any better. Millions have skeletons in their closets as do people in other parts of the world.

[@whozthatgirl12]

OMG SIMON AND MARTINA :D hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii :3 I'm from Canada too I was born there but now I live in Korea and I go to an international school and yeahh are you reading this comment? if you are then hi

[@eatyourkimchi]

HI!!!!! *waves furiously*

[@jaybee8207]

Simon and Martina hi

[@ArtieP3]

Hello, Simon and Martina! What do you notice is the most common religion in Korea? What is religious education like in Korea? I know a lot of people are either Christian or Buddhist, but do people in Korea know anything about other religions, such as Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, etc. Also, what reactions/attitudes can somebody who isn't either Buddhist or Christian expect to receive in Korea?

[@ArtieP3]

Serena Mystique Same! And I was raised Jewish... so I'm just curious to see how Korean people would react to people like us... people who weren't raised Christian, catholic, or Buddhist. I mean, I know it will vary from person to person, but I'd just like to get a basic, general overview.

[@lisachiang2683]

I think most asians have that "girls should be taking care of the kids and cleaning the house" I mean I'm 15 and my grandma scolds me for hanging out with my friends and doing sports. She is all like "Girls should stay at home and learn how to cook and clean so you can get married"...umm i doubt she wants me to burn the house down trying to boil water :3

[@grlpower1]

Do whatever you want. It is your life. No One will ever stop you from the things you love to do the most.

[@FreshSalad645]

grlpower1 I AGREE !

[@HanazonoHikari13]

Totally agree!!! :D

[@lisachiang2683]

grlpower1 Lol I know XD

[@Iffeltower]

Ohehmeffgee!! same here!! but its my mother who says this stuff >.> i just sit there and sing loud to my hearts content to block out what she says. i know, disrespectful, but it has to be done n.n

[@hptriogal]

I remember that one chick in Girl Code on MTV said she is attracted to fat pasty white guys that look like they're on the verge of death. I thought she was joking until she said, again, that she likes fat white guys in another episode. Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder. :) But who am I kidding? I've been attracted to several guys ranging from super skinny to very fat, from handsome to not so good looking, from my age to 30 yrs older than me, and from totally broke to extremely wealthy. I love men! I have no limits...unless a guy wants to rape/abuse me or is a sexist, then that's when I'm out. Hopefully, there are men out there that think the same way of women as I do about men. :)

[@honeybunkaede]

giiirrrll cooodddeeee whoop

[@RLM22]

do you happen to know if that is on a video on youtube where she said that?

[@hptriogal]

Kimberley Sampson Heck yes!! Whoop-whoop! :D

[@lolidays27]

I can't stop looking at your eyeliner, it's gorgeous!! *.*

[@famousamos]

Yeah, I saw this problem when I was in Korea. I attended a prestigious university and have a good, stable career - but I was NOT interested in dating~

[@uetzel]

Woojong ....but you at least fucked all those girls who were interested in you right? RIGHT?!

[@Eunoialagom]

Woojong Oppa~~ date me plweaaaase~~... LOL just kidding. Honestly , i dont understand whats up with people and dating...always talking about dating like..WHY.

[@ChelsalinaVEVO]

+Woojong You're super cute though ^-^ you'd have no problem getting girls~

[@phebes]

For next week's TLDR, I'd like to know, how easy it is to get your driving license in Korea? I know Japan has one of the hardest driving exams to pass, so is Korea's law on driving just as strict? Is it difficult for of age adults to pass? What is the process like?

[@hanahime03]

In Korea, is there a specific time where shops have sales like Boxing Day in Canada or Black Friday in the United States for instance? Thank you :)

[@livinlife0312]

Watching this in my PJs now, currently unemployed... while my girlfriend is at work....

[@mrblackwellie]

Raymond Sunwall No shame in that!

[@SmartYouTubification]

Raymond Sunwall I was thinking the same thing.... SAME!

[@livinlife0312]

Maggie B. Haha thanks! Finally employed!

[@Aveckappe]

Hey, Simon and Martina! For next week's TL;DR, can you please talk about the sasaeng fans in more detail? Like, how prominent are they in the news/social discussion? Does it look like this problem is on its way to be resolved, or is it something that Korea shuns and ignores? With all of the recent happenings with EXO, SHINee and other celebrities, I feel like this topic comes up much more often. Thanks!!

[@marielito]

Hi Simon&Martina I was wondering how is poverty in Korea, or rather, social clases. Do you see vagrants and beggars in the streets? Is there any social discrimination? And finally in what social class would you be in?

[@ahillmann]

That's a very good question! I've been thinking about similar things: from an outsider's perspective Korea seems to be the a very developed society. Everything is functioning well, people work hard in school and at work, prices seem to be low, the country is exporting a lot, etc. So I'm wondering what's the catch? There's always some kind of a downside to every upside. Aren't there many people who fall behind in the rat race? Do people actually make enough money to survive in Korea? Is Korea actually the kind of paradise that at least I imagine it to be?

[@teresayoon5097]

Hey u guys interesting video!! I'd also really like to know how do Koreans treat and act around disabled people? (those who are in wheelchairs, bipolar, physically and mentally disabled etc.) Are they treated any different? Do they get discriminated against? Thanks :)

[@alexjimenez7498]

For your next TL;DR, you could talk about the culture around League of Legends which is a rapidly growing e-sport in Korea and has gathered attention, for example a politician cosplayed as a character in the game due to a South Korean team winning the world championship.

[@BrazilyanBeauty]

Martina looks so pretty with this hairstyle and cool spikey headband, it matches the black winged eyeliner really well! :D

[@annikang898]

I have a question Simon and Martina! I see that Martina's face is very clean, flawless, moisturized and pretty, plus she uses BB cream to make it even brighter... Martina you're so pretty! But does Simon wear BB cream too? Cause his skin looks flawless, do you guys put makeup on Simon when he's on set?

[@NanatsuChan]

i'm a german girl and my boyfriend is korean... I dunno if he's just an exception but he honestly just accepts me the way I am, and I am not even close to those korean "standarts" i think that if a guy likes you then he does it for your personality and not because you apply to certain standarts. I will travel to Korea with him this summer though and I'm kinda...nervous about being judged by other people though >

[@lilyrain69]

Hey don't let others take you down. You should love yourself most. Don't care what others say! I am vietnamese but i am not that thin and so i don't fit in the beauty standard. I let people around me tell me i am fat. But when i met my husband i realized that i wasn't fat at all. It' s just that vietnamese people do search for their beauty standard. For Germany i am quite normal, though! ^_~

[@NanatsuChan]

Thank you so much for your answer :) I really appreciate it ^_^ I'm trying to become more confident and love myself more and you absolutely encourage me, thanks! :) I'm glad you can love yourself like this. I think everyone deserves to do so!

[@xmadeinchinax]

I live in Korea too and the gender roles are still really harsh. I'm a dancer here; and I am always getting crap and I have to change my dancing "style" (Grew up doing hip hop in America) or else I will be....heh.. screwed. But, all the guys here dance differently with swag and such and they are always praised for it; while us girls are expected to dance the exact same.

[@xmadeinchinax]

Haha thanks I wish but man unless some more koreans realize that we are ALL dancing the same and the korean music scene will not evolve and eventually fade out unless some more people do something about it. Even YG is like this. I have a couple friends who left YG because they were forcing them to dance in a way they didn't want to. Its a huge problem here that people of higher power have yet to recognize.

[@xmadeinchinax]

***** When they do hip hop dances, they do it the exact same to the point. It doesn't matter if its a kpop dance or a hip hop dance; in general they just all look the same. just saying.

[@LunarStarFox]

the an issue that I see alot here in America, but it's worse. American women are expected to have a good paying job and to also fulfill all the roles of a housewife! it's such bullshit!

[@boubou813]

ok there's A LOT of similarities between Korean culture and south mediterranean culture ( I'm french and MOROCCAN): shy/ taboo dating culture, for instance you introduce to your parents the one that you're getting married to, you stay at your parent's home until you get married, the blind date set up by your parents thing...and of course the fact that a wife is expected to raise the kids, cook, do house chores etc... I can't write everything because of my crappy english skills but so much similarities ^^

[@chad8805]

You guys are great! Real chemistry infront of the camera. I was interested throughout the entire video!

[@dharshkwon]

well.... for Singapore... it has to be a working woman and a working man.. the living expenses are so high here that everyone has pull their own weight.. if they get married and have kids, its usually the grandparents or the maid that takes care of the kid... there are housewives but i mostly see that for high income families... there are women who actually go to work and when they come back home, they cook, clean and take care of their children.. thats usually when the children are much older...

[@MissDach]

I have been wondering since the SHINee "interview" what your plans are got interviews in the future. I'm also curious how you get the interviews you have had so far.

[@ultimaterc]

This is basically how every country in the world used to be. Problem with double-incomes though is that it can push up the prices of everything since each family has 'more' to spend. At the end: "Ducky I love you and I want to know where we're going to eat." "I think we're gonna go afterwards and we're gonna get some food." "Where are we gonna go afterwards? Are we going to go.... " That's the best I can do.

[@michelleamposta8769]

And that's what happend in Holland, everything becomes freakin' more expensive because the young couple's both work, and don't take children

[@hatusharu94]

I think u guys said "ducky I love you and want to know when we're going to eat" " I think we're going to go afterwards and go get some food." "Where are we going to go afterwards? Are we going to go get shamu shamu?"

[@guitargeekette]

As a Jamaican, I beg you, don' do the accent. lol...also Simon no cursing.

[@FaizaLovingLife]

This episode explains a lot about K-dramas.

[@saloosh777]

That thing about a woman working once she's married is fine here, but then the husband also gets looked down upon even if he makes more money than her because apparently, a woman here should marry a man that makes so much money so she herself doesn't have to work. She can work if she wants to, but it still raises so many questions T_T

[@juveriaalmasz9123]

For a lady to work full time and also take care of the kids is pretty common where I live (India). Only a few guys actually help out their wife and share the work at home. I hope this mindset of people changes soon :( P.S. I love your videos! You're doing a great job!

[@mrderrickbrownie]

Are there many black people in South Korea, as in living there and not tourist?

[@btrluver]

There are some as for like university students

[@Ilikesoda100]

All girls need to look like jessica jung.... I'm just joking. Korean boys have to give girls a break and korean girls have to give boys a break. You think white people have ridiculous standards? That's funny. Too much pressure for both genders and you could argue that you shouldnt date if you can't handle that pressure, but there's a certain point where a line should be drawn.

[@donuts833]

Are there any stay at home dads in Korea? Or really none at all?

[@IAmPIE111111]

They're probably considered as losers.

[@xBOOMpowX]

Martina, your wing-eyeliner is on point!

[@britanniacreations]

when you guys were talking about bagel i was thinking of that thing they do in japan where their forehead looks like a bagel lol

[@phobo96]

Hey simon and martina :) I want to ask about the details of the 'I am not okay' campaign. I know it has become more noticed becuase of Jonghuyn from shinee supports it. And what are your thoughts on it?

[@AkwaJinx]

So...looks like I'm going to be single for the rest of my life. Single Ladies is now my national anthem.

[@danielbenner7583]

I worked a few privates when I was in Busan, and I noticed a few other interesting things about some married couples. Sometimes the husband works in another city, and only sees the wife and kids once a week, or sometimes just once or twice a month! Also, once the kids start being thrown into hagwons, sometimes there are stay-at-home moms that are just looking for something to do; I did language exchange with a bunch of house wives at a coffee shop regularly, and the small talk about weekends and what they did on a day to day basis seemed pretty mundane... I've also had friends working at hagwons that told me that sometimes these moms end up using this time to micro manage their six year old's academic progress, which is really frustrating for the teachers because poor little minsu is already looking pretty burned out, and the academic hell his life has been assigned to is just starting... :(

[@alexandriafaulkner4102]

Australia has had articles on pretty much every side of these sorts of Gender Equality topics. In one report it'll be about the stigma behind stay at home dads not working for the family, then about stay at home mums not helping to provide income, then women choosing a career, opting to never have kids, and being called selfish, then women having kids to get government benefits and being called selfish for that. *sigh*

[@rynnieeefairy]

wow this is all so interesting! but i was wondering, do all these rules apply to foreigners too? like if a guy/girl meets a foreigner they like, does that person still have to attend a SKY university?

[@TheAdorablepolish]

"I want someone who's teeth look like they're eating bricks" :D Made me laugh so much :D

[@vanessa2555]

Hi Simon and Martina, what do you think of the dating rumor about L and Kim Do Yeon?

[@wanderlust1888]

lol Jamaican Nasty here from north America. :) haha your accents were terrible! but thats okay. love you anyways!

[@eatyourkimchi]

You didn't hear me with my real Jamaican accent. It's a lot less terrible :D

[@1989snb]

me too 😅

[@dannyp.951]

I think there are 2 discussions here. 1) What initially attracts Korean men to Korean women 2) What is the ideal Korean wife. These are 2 very different things. The same thing goes for "ideal baby mamma's" :) As a Korean guy, who has endlessly talked about this with other Korean guys, there are a lot of hot girls that are not marriage material or even dating material. I also have a lot of friends who have chosen the less pretty girls for other qualities.

[@camzfun]

TLDR Question: Would korean women date foreigners?

[@megandaniels87]

OMG y'all are FREAKIN HILARIOUS! I love y'all so much! Love your videos. Keep up the good work! I know it's hard and it's a long process in these videos but yall are doing it for us! Y'all went in knowing nothing in Korea. I will know a lot because of yall! Thanks so much!

[@1995missusagi]

hey Simon and Martina I have a question what is Christmas in Korea like are there any rituals or quirky things they do there?, what do they do at new year? and more importantly how do you guise celebrate Christmas.

[@OnizukaGTO]

all i got from this, is that i need a "Sugar Momma" . :p

[@harajuku2640]

what do korean men think of korean girls who undergo surgeries? are they okay with it since many of them did it or it's a big no-no?

[@TheVigilette]

i would say that being an American woman has given me certain privileges (Which I'm thankful for,) than women of other countries. Not that we still don't have gender inequality and lots to work on, because of course we do. everyone does. But I think we got it pretty good over here. But i think other places still have a really long ways to go, particularly in the Asian countries. I'm dating a Korean man ten years older than me, and sometimes there's a slight power struggle because I can feel him wanting to be the "in charge one." but it dsnt mean he dsnt love me or anything. we just both have to shift our views on gender roles. it's a hard topic to talk about. you guys did great. :)

[@arizorki]

This is genuinely one of the main reasons thats holding me back from teaching in korea. As a confident women, i feel like I'm not going to be taken seriously and just objectified, not by all, but my majority who share such sexist values. Ive had to deal with that here in canada when i was volunteering with a korean organization… let alone being in actual korea.

[@arizorki]

don't get me wrong, i acknowledge the fact that sexism and objectification exists all through out the world. and maybe i used the word objectified wrong in this context but if you look at old videos of S&M students would tell teachers if they are fat and ugly and what not. but again it exists everywhere my main concern was outside of school systems, just the sexism in culture itself. even if its not towards me, its not something I accept. oh i know, like I've said before the culture, food, and everything is beautiful but this certain aspect, that is very important to me, is the only thing thats holding me back. I'm not discrediting korea in any way.

[@Tressym.]

Tara T I guess in order to live in Korea as a woman, or even a man (as someone who's foreign to the country), you have to have a certain confidence and self-esteem about yourself. Put on a brave face, let them cling to their old fashioned mentality of sexism and certain unfavorable tradition, they're living their life in an old era within our advancing modern world. Eventually, such mentalities will be frowned upon in such a way that racism and sexism are in America, without an ounce of tolerance. Korea will surely advance beyond that social border, it'll just take time... and as Simon and Martina mentioned, not everyone is like this. You'll meet the people who don't think like this, and they will surely be true friends.

[@KaitTakesAsia92]

Honestly, from what I've observed while living in Korea, those you will wind up talking to are those interested in foreign cultures and those with more western views of things, so really, you are unlikely to run into the image/sexist issue much. Yes it may still exist but is easy to ignore. My Korean friends here all have more western views about most things and aren't sexist unless you find chivalry sexist XD

[@kimmidoll24]

So we now know the ideal man ad woman. But where does cooking factor in? Does a man have to cook or does a woman have to cook?

[@kimmidoll24]

i know but what i mean is what if they girl can't cook? would he still want her? or what if he can't cook and such. what is the factor of that.

[@kimmidoll24]

come on i really wanna know what they would say :/

[@kimmidoll24]

there are women who don't have a skill in cooking. that's why i asked the question. your assumption is incorrect you know?

[@AfizaFarhana]

***** lol~ it was quite funny conversations going on in here. What BDSandM was tried to said, even you're DON’T KNOW TO COOK AT ALL or NEVER TOUCH COOKING APPLIANCE FOR THE ENTIRE OF YOUR LIFE, after you get married you MUST LEARN HOW TO COOK for your husband even you truly horrible at cooking. At least you know how to make the very simplest menu ever or you husband will RUNS TO THEIR MOM AND START COMPLAINING ABOUT YOU (for sure you don’t want that). That was what my mom told me. Yet, I still don’t know HOW TO COOK BEAUTIFULLY and most of my best-boy-friends knew it. Hopefully, my future husband just like my dad - don’t care much about home cooking… XDㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ - hope simon and martina will respond to you too - **sorry bad english** =3

[@AfizaFarhana]

BDSandM XD Lol~ "Maybe you should ask if Korean men would date a girl without hands." (

[@sakurakou2009]

Simon I love u u are awesome :3 u really respect women martina is so lucky to have found someone like u ... wish u happiness beautiful married couple

[@dacow95]

easy answer, SOO-ZEE

[@리올-d7e]

So what? I'm korean teenager and It's p.m 7:04 in korea but My mom is working still now. she is professional korean food chef and I was raised my grandma not now. she is really like her job so hard. My dad says "I'm really lucky guy to marryed with her" for now My dad? he is cooking for me and my sister and brother It's usually mom in korea at 2016 year It's case by case also another country and I don't understand you guys. Women is must do have a job one thing and man is don't care they have a never job? when they are couple or marryed? I don't understand. you guys opinions so old you know we are not north korean

[@danieladifoggia9019]

they didnt say that this can be apply to everybody. They cant know every single person in Korea its a generalization. Of course now in 2016 the things are slowly changing and every family is an owen story but they just tell what they see in their 8 years in Korea and what people who live there, korean and not, told them

[@fantasieanime]

I'm Chinese American, and most western cultures are similar in terms of this stuff, but china is dependant on region, because where my dad comes from, it is very similar to korean culture where man brings home money, and house wife does home stuff, whereas in Shanghai where my mom comes from, a lot of men will work and then go buy groceries and cook and clean at home while the wife usually also works but isn't necessarily expected to contribute at home as a "woman's job"

[@jem3245]

honestly last year i was like omg i want a boyfriend but now im like F THAT i want good grades and a good job.

[@RebeccaThomas2010]

Yeah my husband is half korean and that is how it goes. I worked before we had a kid but working and doing everything else is not fun. Now I am a stay at home mom and it is like having 2 full time jobs taking care of him, the house, and our son. Oh my mother in law comes by everyday.

[@VIPBlackjackGirl]

Dear Simon and Martina, how many foreigners (Asian and Non-Asian) have you seen in Korea that are dating or married to either Korean men or women? Just as there is an ideal type for Korean men and women, is there an ideal type for foreigners? Hope you can answer my question, love you guys,

[@llatoya85]

Jamaican here!!!! Love you guys!!

[@gracearlis]

I have a few question... If guys are the ones that usually go off to the SKY universities them what is the female percentage that goes to college in Korea? and what is the female body percentage that attends the SKY Universities? In my college, The University of Puerto Rico, most of the student body is female, I think its around 60%, and when college recruiters go to high schools they tend to pitch to the boys because they want more male students. For me its frustrating because I am single and want to met someone and its kinda hard when in most of your classes you only have like 7 guys and the rest are females. Does this happens inversely in SKY universities?

[@althealew]

Based on my experience on exchange in Korea University, the gender split is rather equal! And it's very common for sogaeting to happen within the same school but cross faculties, or across SKY universities. Eg, I have many KU friends who date Yonsei people. Dating across faculties or cross schools is important because when they break up I guess it's less awkward cos you won't really see the person anymore..

[@nadinesurya]

"oppa I'm scared and so glamorously confident" I laughed so hard at this

[@neauchia]

hmmm maybe i can speak Simon and Martina lang. i'm going to try to translate: Martina: Ducky I thought you said right after, when are we going to get something to eat? Simon: I think we're gonna go right after we do this first. Martina: When are we going afterwards, are we gonna get some shamu shamu? lol idk i tried XP

[@sophmore90]

I've heard that South Korea has a negative population growth. One of the lowest in the world. If they have a strict immigration policy like Japan, then who is going to fill those jobs in the future? I also assume they have a growing retirement population who collect a government pension. So they're going to need people to work and pay taxes in order to support the elderly population. My point is, they're going to have to rely on women to fill those jobs. This also means they have to abandon their patriarchal society in order for the country to stay competitive with the rest of the first world.

[@hubobubo2113]

How is this a patriarchal system? Men are expected to work like dogs there entire live's by going to the most prestigious universities, working at the biggest companies and completing military service. While women have to go through pretty much a genetic lottery. Not saying its not a shitty deal for women. But it hardly sounds like a system set up for the express benefit of men and detriment of women.

[@herpderps]

hubobubo You should look up the definition of patriarchal system. It can be both patriarchal and not great for men at the same time,

[@haruno21]

hubobubo that's the precise definition of patriarchal. In fact is how western society was in .. idk 1950's? and that's what is called "patriarchal". You need to update on the correct definition. It is called like that because men get an education and monopoly over the money (since they are the ones earning it) and women are just mothers and maids. That's precisely the opposed to a more egalitarian society where any woman can have a career and and men can be a stay home dad if they wish (or the other way around or both can work or whatever) and no one gives a fuck about what men and women are "supposed" to do. Just do your thing whether you're a man or a woman

[@hubobubo2113]

cool definition bro