What's The Minimum Required Enemy Kills to Beat Pizza Tower?

Credit to sneedle pete for the Toppin gals mod I used in this video.
Also turns out I missed an avoidable kill in The Pig City with one of the Hamcuffs so the total is 1 less than I say at the end of the video. Well shoot.
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[@sneedlepete]

thanks for checking out my mod! it's fun seeing my silly little joke mod still getting downloads

[@PhantomAarantula]

Thank you for creating it and making a case for the importance of competition!

[@banannabanna]

is that the girl toppins?

[@ballerbrick]

congrats for making a more sfw version of the toppin gals

[@1outof5]

nice mod there, sneedlepete.

[@Jake_gd22]

@@ballerbrick bruh

[@SpikeFoxyYoshi]

Well the bosses don't get killed when defeating them. They return after just fine with a few bruises I guess.

[@kUHASZ]

Update: except The Doise

[@AVerySealishSeal]

@@kUHASZ well you werent the one who killed that guy

[@melo-7904]

@@kUHASZ peppino doesnt fight the doise unless in swap mode

[@melo-7904]

@@AVerySealishSeal exit gustavo:

[@alguienmasdelahumanidad]

then in the final get almost overkilled by Peppino

[@kiwiicreature_]

31:47 The reason this happens is because near the end of the room, there's a Pizza Soldier that's misplaced into the floor. If the game detects that enemies are inside walls, it'll instakill them.

[@PhantomAarantula]

That... actually would be consistent with some of what I've seen trying to find optimizations in Crust Cove and Wasteyard. Fascinating.

[@Spongebobsrofile]

when i was making Waterwave dungeon (with cyop) a pencer died cause it was inside a rat

[@MonstaGamez]

Speaking of crust cove, I noticed that when the cannon ball hit the ground, it became grabbable

[@MonstaGamez]

In the d rank challenge

[@MonstaGamez]

I just rewatched it and saw that if it hits a slope it doesn’t explode and becomes grabbable.

[@imthecoolestguyalive]

Somehow imagining Peppino having to keep the enemies out of harm's way makes his constantly miserable state even funnier. Thanks for doing this, I've always been curious if a P for Pacifist run was possible. The music from UnderTale's Pacifist ending at the end was a very funny touch. Congration!

[@imthecoolestguyalive]

@thefunny6015 No, no, I don't mean a pacifist P-Rank, I mean just the title. I saw "P for Pacifist" on an almost kill-less John Gutter run, so I mentioned it here.

[@gauthiervergison6332]

Now we know why gustavo's catchphrase is "i'm going to kill you"

[@arandomguyscrolling2023]

with kindness!

[@SimplyANugget]

There are speedrun strats that let you avoid the Hamkuffs through kicking Brick, making the first and third ones the only forced deaths

[@PhantomAarantula]

This has been brought to my attention. Unfortunately, that same speedrun strat involves killing a pizza slug so you'd just be trading 1 life for another.

[@oscaraboud7147]

The fact you have the patience and passion for all this stuff is very impressive, hope to see more in the future

[@PhantomAarantula]

So long as nothing drastic comes up, it's something I'm up for.

[@klause2s]

honestly, i truly salute you for doing this challenge, t'was very awesome watching live

[@PhantomAarantula]

Much love

[@idk-99]

33:00 they changed this in the noise update, the toppin monsters dont count towards combo anymore

[@mikey5614]

I noticed that too, why is that now?

[@scrapdoodle]

@@mikey5614 because they're technically level elements/sequences, as the player themselves can't kill them firsthand

[@kaip3517]

5:53 Also, it's confirmed the bosses survive the encounters with them, as we see them coming back in the final boss fight.

[@Sea_Moose1]

They survive that too since they're seen following you in the crumbling tower of pizza

[@noxious_crystal3269]

Exept Doise, he definitely died

[@Noobpopcan]

@@noxious_crystal3269 Who need doise when you have bucket?

[@noxious_crystal3269]

@@Noobpopcan not wrong, not wrong

[@magnusm4]

The frustration Peppino feels along with the threat of Pizzaface, all while having to frantically pick enemies up and gently put them down to not hurt them. This all sounds like an episode of Wander Over Yonder and now I want a mod with Wander doing this challenge.

[@PhantomAarantula]

Man, now I want this, too.

[@bobomb007]

i remember being here at the streams. You put a lot of effort into this. I really hope you have fun making these.

[@PhantomAarantula]

Certainly.

[@PhantomAarantula]

I don't like asking for subscribers, but my dad says I need to market myself more so... if you end up enjoying this video, please at least consider subscribing.

[@Cliffordlonghead]

First

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Awesome video

[@duncanchillake8024]

Second

[@duncanchillake8024]

Splendid visual

[@RobotFlower2763]

there should be an ending where the enemies start appearing on peppino's pizzaria if you do the pacifist run in this game

[@starkar91]

23:46 if i recall correctly the halloween update added two more rats in this section soooo that's two more kills

[@Hot_RashBlazeBoil]

“You’ve hurt Pinkie Pie 10 times…”

[@aRandomwacko]

I've been trying to work on this challenge concept since the sage demo days (often calling it "Pseudo-Pacifist" runs) I'm surprised to see others go out of their ways to attempt an "less Fatalities as possible" runs

[@PhantomAarantula]

Suppose it's inevitable that the same idea can be shared by multiple people.

[@saltman8975]

I thought of doing the same thing myself

[@aRandomwacko]

@@PhantomAarantula sometimes it's a coincidence, sometimes it's a stolen idea. But i would say that in this case it was just a coincidence Besides, I don't mind other people trying to do this

[@PhantomAarantula]

@@aRandomwacko You can still do this challenge tbh. Especially because it turns out I didn't optimize The Pig City as much as I thought I did with the second hamcuff being avoidable in the 5th taxi room.

[@jesperthedreamer]

you can actually see your enemies killed counter in the files of pizza tower or by beating the game

[@PhantomAarantula]

This is true,

[@ImCrowned76]

Never would you see me having this level of commitment. Oh, and another thing: everybody gangsta till we realize that crumbling the tower kills all the enemies you just saved! Wowie!

[@PhantomAarantula]

I tried so hard and got so far... In the end, it doesn't even matter

[@Evinex_0]

20:00 Dude i love cuphead, Gnome Way Out is actually my favorite DLC song, good choice for music!

[@mateohunterwatts4879]

The fact that he used the undertale pacifist ending song at the end, Is just perfect for that context.

[@ShroomyVR0714]

Every time I hear “unstoppable as a train” I always think of every time I see a train going extremely slow and then eventually stopping on the road that I am trying to drive on.

[@McBehrer]

18:40 You hurt Fluttershy?! how DARE

[@PhantomAarantula]

I didn't mean to

[@noelleonhart]

Next video: "It's Pizza Tower, but I can only run when absolutely necessary."

[@Kto_to755]

If Peppino had flat feet...

[@Jellotines]

Pizza tower but peppino is a smoker

[@supersonicmadness760]

Hold on, wouldn't Pizzaface's first phase also count since he spawns enemies? And those enemies, are used to beat pizzaface?

[@PhantomAarantula]

Surprisingly, no. Enemies you fight in boss battles don't count towards the total.

[@chaoscoolcreations]

Infinitely-(re)spawning enemies dont count toward combos

[@mariokid1040]

now i want to do a run where i kill every combo-increasing enemy once and see how many there are

[@Kirby7281]

1:59 I have debug mode enabled, I used it while playing as the noise because I get stuck on most metal boxes, this was before I learned the B UP B move.

[@tscock]

That text thing happened bcs pizza tower stores text values outside of main game archive, in a separate text file for translation purposes. Modders usually just edit the file and after installing the mod it overrides the original text file and it may persist even after mod's disabled. You can fix it with steam's file validation thing

[@PhantomAarantula]

Yeah did it just yesterday and it worked

[@ErectineerGaming]

respect to you for having the toppin girls mod instead of the toppin gals

[@PhantomAarantula]

Gotta be family-friendly... as much as I can be anyway.

[@PumpkidWasTaken]

@@PhantomAarantula I respect you for using the better mod.

[@CTGMR_1]

yep it is cute and simple

[@Dr_Dan_]

19:32 man this is so brutal even i felt dead inside

[@PhantomAarantula]

They don't call me *Phantom* A for nothing... though actually, this wouldn't be the reason either.

[@barr1ers]

I got the same glitch with a 100% save The closest to recovery I could get is a installed 101%, im making up the pranks I didint do for it This also makes me feel incredibly guilty when wearing tv purple everytime

[@McBehrer]

37:15 couldn't you just shoot the pineapples? They don't count towards combo

[@PhantomAarantula]

Nope. This was done on an earlier patch where they did. And even now, the game still counts the Toppin monsters in the final count despite the combo not increasing at all.

[@trollsansofficial]

Now beat it as noise

[@thesoldierfurret8234]

12:17 I have played soo much Pizza tower AND I NEVER KNEW THAT EXISTED??

[@PhantomAarantula]

I don't know why it's there tbh.

[@thesoldierfurret8234]

@@PhantomAarantula There’s like zero hint on it behind there other than the extended wall. Such a weird place to put it too

[@dadmitri4259]

wow I did not know that mr stick and gustavo defeat enemies when they drop in that's a pretty neat bit of trivia

[@Hackstr_]

Pretty cool challenge run.

[@JackBoi101]

hagstor-

[@Amero2005]

The only obligatory enemies are all Pillars, stupid rats and Bosses, but we all know gameplay will force us to kill more enemies

[@PhantomAarantula]

And greaseballs!

[@thomastheman6476]

bro making new speed run categories single handedly, very epic.

[@TBiscuit1]

A complete 180 from the challenge I did which was to kill every enemy in every levels (which is possible..! with a few extra rules) Good video btw!

[@coolyes6918]

Actually in the pigcity you can skip the second police officer that kidnaps brick by precisely jumping over him so that the screen doesnt scroll down enough for him to be visible

[@PhantomAarantula]

Do you mind showing any proof of this? Because even if you do jump over the hamcuff at first, gravity will send you plummeting down in his range from my testing.

[@coolyes6918]

@@PhantomAarantula I just found out that you can skip the second hamcuff but that requires jumping on top of another enemy so either way you would get an enemy kill so it doesn’t matter

[@PhantomAarantula]

@@coolyes6918 Ah. That's a tad disappointing. But at least it means the current numbers are still optimal.

[@IronCzyk]

Good to see someone enjoying the BETTER Toppin Gals' mod. I think it's very cool. Also good vid btw

[@PhantomAarantula]

It's adorable

[@maltardraco9555]

146 is still more than enough for Sans to want to give you a bad time.

[@PhantomAarantula]

*Super taunts

[@Pumpkinsmasherok]

No it isn't sans only fights you when you kill everybody (cept jerry)

[@Voidwalker...]

So, like Gustavo and Mr. Stick are the Grim Reaper's, and Peppino is trying to prevent some enemies' deaths.

[@purblubescramble-prll]

Man, 15 hours in this challenge are impressive

[@PhantomAarantula]

Guess it helped that I had practice beforehand.

[@unoreverse-9]

how the 2 main characters kikk peppino: only kills if it hurts him noise: DOES IT BREATHE?

[@Labriction]

the only way to beat pizza tower without killing any enemies is by smacking yourelf on the pizza tower walls and not play the game

[@baldifjdhshsysvu]

ive been waiting for someone to do this ever since i seen people do p ranks

[@PhantomAarantula]

I had a feeling some people were.

[@theloonymoony1443]

Woag, I'm mentioned in the video! Was a awesome challenge to watch happen live Aaran!

[@PhantomAarantula]

Of course

[@50cksie]

To be honest bosses wouldn’t count to the count because you do see the bosses at the end of the game

[@PhantomAarantula]

So I've heard.

[@Ernest0303]

i watched most of the streams, ya finally did it!

[@PhantomAarantula]

Finally being the operative word, lol

[@RedIOfficialStar]

That was crazy that going Mach 4 can make you pillar John without getting balled by a ghost

[@PhantomAarantula]

Mach 4 is so funny with what it allows in this game.

[@sirligma3369]

Local Italian claims to be a "pacifist", sentenced to 146 consecutive life sentences.

[@padtron2]

now we need to know how many enemies you can kill

[@PhantomAarantula]

All of them.

[@padtron2]

@@PhantomAarantula already tested and i think it is quite hard to get some enemies but def not all

[@PhantomAarantula]

@@padtron2 idek about that, I just know Don't Make a Sound lets you kill Toppin monsters infinitely. lol

[@modmaniamadness]

Using mods to bring bosses to normal rooms, there's 1 combo per phase (excluding gun and maybe pizzaface? idk he just crashes the game) so that's +6.

[@brandonharv1223]

18:40 This happened to me with the Eevee mod. It says Plume gets hurt, and my clothing names/descriptions are changed.

[@PhantomAarantula]

Interesting. So it's likely just any Pizza Tower mod that alters the text.

[@dqnkdoggo_]

Now lets see him do this for the more well-known unused levels

[@Ticktheannoyingcreature]

When I found this channel i thought it had more than 1m subs by the editing quality but man you are underrated

[@PhantomAarantula]

I get that a lot...

[@aaaaaxo]

Criminally underrated

[@Eevee860]

If someone other than pepino kills an enemy it doesn't count, also the bosses don't die

[@barr1ers]

3:15 icant help but laugh at how you look over to the pit you created where the forknight fell in

[@PhantomAarantula]

My conscience caught up to me fast

[@lopsan_mon]

I can't more combo do that was 96-104

[@PromisedWithGunOriginal]

If you didn't know there's a thing called the debug menu, you can use panic to activate john without even killing him

[@SMH69WasTaken]

Finally, i've been wating for a video like this.

[@ro-boss8591]

I just wanted to say in the LOREEE every piller John is a clone except for the last one in the crumbling tower of pizza

[@OOFG2763]

you made me feel bad for those 3000 something enemies i killed

[@PhantomAarantula]

If it's any consolation, I went on a rampage after finishing this challenge and P-Ranked Don't Make a Sound on stream just to send a message.

[@SleepyIceman6472]

Why does the mushroom have a bow and the pineapple have heart sunglasses? Mods?

[@PhantomAarantula]

Yeah, a mod.

[@theminiyosshi2901]

How fitting that rats gets the most kills: you gotta keep your kitchen clean

[@batangbibo70]

The part where he said “you’ll still get caught by the Sausage Monster, Why? IDK” Reason: he slow and takes a long time to turn around cuz he slips

[@PhantomAarantula]

Only sometimes though.

[@batangbibo70]

@@PhantomAarantula ye

[@sahilhossian8212]

Lore of What's The Minimum Required Enemy Kills to Beat Pizza Tower? Momentum 100

[@SPAMTON249]

30:28 Damn. Titanic monarch zone actually kinda sounds like war (not the level)

[@EeveeTheEevee]

Praying this hits the YT algorithm because god damn it deserves it

[@kayden_sm]

I just noticed a little bow on Mushroom Toppin's head :) And Pineapple has red sunglasses!

[@PhantomAarantula]

Female toppins lol

[@thefrubblewarrior4678]

37:03 What’s the clip here?

[@PhantomAarantula]

TJ Combo's Trailer from Killer Instinct

[@suzannahrose5266]

i was in the stream! it was nice you got it uploaded

[@PhantomAarantula]

Absolutely.

[@SPAMTON249]

I remember you

[@Dogeerie]

19:42 Oh nice! You used my gnomed greenscreen! It was uploaded to my friends account because i sent it to him on discord.

[@PhantomAarantula]

You made that? Yooo that's sick

[@teh_man]

33:12 i'm pretty sure oregano desert clerks have this property as well.

[@dimitriwarchief301]

I love this middle ground “ok we know we gotta kill. Buuuuut . How much do we actually need to kill” challenges as ideas. It’s funny I can’t imagine playing the game

[@PhantomAarantula]

There's definitely no way around at least a few casualties.

[@Jim_the_guy]

Pizza tower but everything is snotty

[@Убийцаеды-л4г]

Wait, in Halloween update in level oh sh1t, they added two rats, so now minimum kills number is 148 :(

[@PhantomAarantula]

Yeah, that's something recently noticed. Good for P Ranking though.

[@REDOYSTERCULT302]

18:36 hol up caught in 4k

[@PhantomAarantula]

No use denying it.

[@Cool_Kid95]

I REALLY don't think John Pillar, Rats, and enemies killed by things that aren't you should count for this challenge.

[@pedroivog.s.6870]

33:54 that was an incredible dodge! I honestly was worried Pizza Time in Don't Make a Sound simply wouldn't be possible.

[@PhantomAarantula]

When in doubt, wow the crowd.

[@pinkiepeachypie]

I legit got jumpscared by seeing my mod in this video lmaO

[@PhantomAarantula]

Fascinating. I was using the mod to make a video on the taunt references to the show. Didn't expect the mod to still keep the text swapped out, though!

[@outer_spacedgames5048]

Many stupid (and small and pin) rats were harmed during the making of this video. R.I.P.

[@petertheidiot9436]

"STAY AWAY FROM MY FEET" -Phantom A, 2023

[@PhantomAarantula]

I blame Dan Schneider.

[@volly9387]

This video is really well made I love it

[@mzmizz8226]

33:18 John also doesn’t give points

[@PeterSpaghetti69]

Bruh you didn't have to go that far for the true ending

[@PhantomAarantula]

True. But I wanted to play through every level, lol

[@danieldelta2464]

Here's a hint for this: When doing The Noise update, there's an outfit to be earned for a pacifist run in Gnome Forest meaning NO killing Noise Goblins

[@PhantomAarantula]

@@danieldelta2464 I made the video on The Noise for this challenge already, dude.

[@mArrkovKaa]

Logically, he does not die, combos were added to balance the passage to the P rank.(ENG) По логике он не умирает, комбо добавили для баланса прохождения на Р ранг.(RU)

[@SyntaxTsundere]

As of a recent update, Don’t Make a Sound no longer counts Toppin Monsters or Pirahnapples as kills as they no longer add to your combo. This should make Don’t make a Sound’s pacifist run easier. Inversely, though, Oh Shit! has an additional two rats that need to be killed. We can, however, save a bunch of kills by… skipping the entirety of floor 5’s levels bar TCTOP.

[@OppoExpunged77]

alright time to wait until he does the same thing but with the noise

[@BisManTheBisMan]

You don't need treasures to beat the game, but I can see why you'd want to go for them as that bit of extra challenge.

[@PhantomAarantula]

Pretty much, lol

[@HANKUkraine]

34:06 for what was volume warning

[@idrk20]

Was not expecting to see mlp here this is one of the last games I was thinking of seeing mlp in

[@PhantomAarantula]

Neither would I, lmao

[@fokionpapanikolaou1371]

If you were trying to go into secrets, then the kills you would get don't count, just like when you don't get all the cards in the secrets in the fastfood salon, it still doesn't count you not getting all the cards. Thus, negating a certain percentage. Well, if you actually went to any secrets.

[@PhantomAarantula]

I don't remember what this could be addressing, but the secrets I did visit had no enemies be forced to be killed.

[@MTDcreations]

Such an Underrated channel

[@RobertTheFoxxo]

Weird how you count john and rats but not greaseball even though they all serve a level-based purpose

[@PhantomAarantula]

But I did count the greaseballs.

[@RobertTheFoxxo]

You did? I heard it as you didn't-

[@PhantomAarantula]

@@RobertTheFoxxo When I said "the fairer total", I was referring to not counting them alongside regular enemies. I didn't show The Vigilante in Golf either because I didn't have to update the count.

[@RobertTheFoxxo]

Ah.

[@Macoy18gaming]

Jeez, seems REALLY HARD. Never in my LIFE I'd wanna kill LESS enemies!

[@thelonleygengar]

I can not guess the song for fast food saloon You win this time, youtuber

[@MonstaGamez]

Good job, but I think that potato farmer on fun farm can be saved by grabbing him before pizza time. To do this just super jump, shoulder bash in its direction, and uppercut right above him to not kill him, and then take him off the ledge.

[@PhantomAarantula]

Enemies respawn at a set point when you leave the room so he'd appear back up where you first found him. If that was possible, there would be plenty of other areas where that'd be effective due to certain enemy spawns during Pizza Time.

[@MonstaGamez]

Got it

[@MonstaGamez]

Suddenly remembered how enemies spawn and respawn like that

[@Joseph-ru8de]

Ok... What if You Included The Secrets & Lap 2? *How many enemies do you have to Kill to S-Rank Pizza Tower?*