What's The Point of Homeschooling, Anyway?

[@cousinbryan3007]

But without public school, how will those kids learn gang signs, where to buy drugs, or all the swears?

[@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986]

Everything’s on the internet these days anyway

[@davida.7967]

@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 so, you know alot of drug addict, swearing-gang bangers spending time researching their mid term papers huh?

[@Dracopol]

And where will they learn that there are other religions besides Billy Joe-Bob's Full-Gospel Temple and Snake-Handling Arena off the I-95 north of Armpit, Nebraska? Home-schooling locks young minds in very bizarre 20th-hand American Christian cults, and doesn't afford them the peace and reduced stress of Buddhism for example.

[@djm5687]

@@Dracopol Why can't Buddhists home school their children?

[@thecaptain29]

@@Dracopol that is quite possibly the most ignorant thing I've ever read on KZbin. That's saying something... 😅

[@RightBackAction]

I live in a family with six other siblings. My parents decided to experiment when it came to schooling. One of my siblings begged to be homeschooled because the public school was not fulfilling their educational needs. He vastly improved under homeschool and is now heading off to college. However, when my mom approached the school and told them her plan. The principal was hostile and cold. The superintendent asked what her reasoning was. She answered that she felt that her son was not getting the educational help he needed. To which the principal said that it was “her job to provide that educational support, not the schools.” My mom responded that she was going to do just that by pulling him out of the school and homeschool him. The superintendent was very helpful in pointing her towards resources, but the principal was antagonistic and initially opposed her.

[@SavageAirguns]

Less kids = less testing numbers = less state funding = mad principle

[@FebbieG]

@@SavageAirguns *fewer ;)

[@stvargas69]

Of course he was hostile. Your sibling being homeschooled is a loss of funding

[@TheGameMage_]

FebbieVanceGarcia Go easy on him, he went to public school Only slightly kidding, i went to public school as well but public schools are just horrible in general. My middle school years were the worst and did nothing about the bullying, didnt care about me having Aspergers or adhd, so when i was sick of there shit i got a bit aggressive spending most of middle school in “in school suspension” and a few out of school suspensions leading to me believing i was violent person and getting a bit depressed thinking about it... Long story short public schools are just a money pit that act like a day care reteaching the same thing over and over again till high school.

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

You have great parents! The principal knows that without a body in a chair taking standardized tests they're going to lose some funding. Sounds like the superintendent is like my cousin, who has her masters in education and up until 2 years ago spent her entire career working in public schools, but homeschooled her kids until they were 12. At that point she gave them the choice over how they were educated, so they bounced around from pubic to private and back at home until they graduated from high school, her daughter at a private school ABC's her son at a public one. Her daughter is now an attorney in DC, and her son just completed his MBA. Not everyone who works in the pubic schools hates homeschooling, and it sounds like the superintendent gets it!

[@ratherdashing1348]

I love Bob's character development

[@MindofaMadMan69]

And how he is caring for that kid and doing a pretty good job

[@St33lStrife]

That trip to the Future really did him some good

[@lukamilosevic661]

Honestly, I feel like Bob between his first appearances and Bob in the Future was the best. He still believed in his own thing, but listened to Seamus. I think 3rd season of CSS was the only one where Bob really felt like an actual person.

[@FurlowT]

Bob use to be basically their strawman dumbass heavy liberal. I think they had him change because he was too dumb and making hard to make their points and not seem like they were just ragging on the other side.

[@lukamilosevic661]

@@FurlowT Same, mate. Seamus, too has evolved, to the point where he is self aware that he acts like an asshole towards Bob and annoys him with *economy*, so that's why he mostly left him alone in later episodes, even when they disagreed.

[@isaach.1135]

"Don't homeschoolers turn out ... weird?" "Didn't we?" ... "Fair enough."

[@aaronlandry3934]

Yeah, that’s very fair. Meme culture is evidence that most of society is weird today

[@zxcxdr1]

Never in my life have I been so insulted by something that is completely accurate

[@Yogasefski]

It’s not just home school or public school kids, as a former private school kid I can confirm that I’m weird as well. -Source: first hand accounts from my parents, brother and myself.

[@zannthemann7527]

"Fair enough." *Starts plans to become emperor of France again*

[@humbughumbughumbug]

I attended a tech college. Public school kids were far more awkward than nerdy homeschool guys, who turned out cooler than they deserved. Super fit, put together, played guitar, etc. They were nerds but their family taught them to be stylish too. Girls at other colleges had crushes on them. The public school nerds were probably bullied into the dirt and traumatized into being autistic. Dressed weird, withdrawn, had haircuts, disorderly, and couldn't do anything without fear of being bullied or made fun of.

[@AtarahDerek]

I'm still not used to Bob being on Seamus' side.

[@DRKLCNS1]

he's learned a lot during his time at the taco mines

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

Bob is still not fully on Seamus's Side. He is just accepting to his reasoning now.

[@lukamilosevic661]

@SwordSorcery2020 What if Bob really just wanted to be Seamus's friend all along, but became depressed and pretended to be the polar opposite of Seamus out of spite, because Seamus was too busy to spend quality time with the gang

[@SovereignStatesman]

AtarahDerek: Seamus just told him that there's a 10% chance his kid will be sexually abused in public school, and he says he MIGHT home-school?

[@jonathacirilo5745]

@@SovereignStatesman well, it's still just a chance, not a guarantee.

[@ScamwatchDallin]

Homeschooling was awesome! I managed to get a fourth of my Associate's degree done at 17 through concurrent enrollment, and I believe I was only ready for that workload because of what I learned homeschooling. I plan on using FEE resources as a homeschooling curriculum for my kids later in life. Great stuff all around here!

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

Sounds really nice to be homeschooled

[@Justanothermusicnerdxo]

A disclaimer that FEE isn’t as educational as it presents itself. There’s some less credible sources and some gaps in evidence. While I agree with their ideology (and that’s why I watch it) I am also an academic and I find it important to mention that there is a bias, like most sources. It’s important to analyze multiple views and to provide children with access to multiple views (unlike the public school system).

[@ScamwatchDallin]

@@Justanothermusicnerdxo Oh, totally agree. I've simply found they're one of the best sources for Libertarian opinions, hence why I became an associate producer for Out of Frame.

[@noir6904]

I also recommend the ron paul curriculum

[@engelsteinberg593]

@@ScamwatchDallin Austrian Opinions*.

[@pagodaodaskina4617]

In Brazil, my country, homescholling is banned since the 30s, when the president Getúlio Vargas wanted to control the education, also creating a federal system to control what can be taught in every school in the country. The system remains the same, and public scholls are awful compared to the private schools (even though public scholls are 2 times more expensive (the gov would pay less to just give the parents the money to put everyone in private schools)) for example, Brazillians public schools have the position 69 in PISA (the avaliation of education between many countries) but the private schools are in the 5th position.

[@aFreeDrifter]

Ola Pagodao, Quando saí do Brasil ha uns 25 anos atras, vi o quanto era autoritario comparado com os EUA onde agora moro, porem enquanto os EUA estao se tornando cada vez mais autoritarios, vejo indicios do pensamento libertariano finalmente estando presente no Brasil. Quem sabe logo o Brasil ainda venha a ser menos autoritario que os EUA? Por favor, me diga que a coisa esta melhorando por ai? Eu eduquei meus filhos atraves do homeschool aqui e nao me arrependo, muito pelo contrario. Esta na hora dos Brasileiros lutarem por esse direito. Com certeza o PT vai se opor pois eh do interesse da esquerda poder indotrinar todos os jovens.

[@Shock_Treatment]

Brazil's government has been a mess for a very long time. The movie Brazil was made in the 80s, and even though it doesn't take place in Brazil, it's still relevant today on how buerocraric they are.

[@ryandooley287]

Ok, but Brazil is a capitalist hell hole and is more or less what these assholes want.

[@otavioluis5774]

@@ryandooley287 "Brazil is a capitalist" like North Korea or Venezuela

[@ryandooley287]

@@otavioluis5774 That's a fucking stupid statement on so many levels.

[@tacticalbandicoot4003]

Yesssss spread my lifestyle to the masses

[@jodiejustice9264]

Yes

[@elijahbrown5179]

Amen!

[@insanedragongirl]

They’ll all join us soon!!!

[@loganlanglois2020]

You sound a little w e i r d

[@tacticalbandicoot4003]

@@loganlanglois2020 YOU sound a little too n o r m a l

[@LeoxandarMagnus]

Nah, homeschooling kids do turn out weird. Take myself as an example. Unlike many of my peers at university, I am a Modern Conservative and a true classical liberal.

[@natehe3113]

No it’s the public schoolers tern out weird

[@Farix1997]

Eeeew how do you even tie your own shoes with so many disabilities? 😰

[@miked2075]

M Z I do think home schooled children miss out on important socialization skills in many cases.

[@ThePyroRussian]

There also something to be said the that the home school people are super easy to manipulate because they don’t see the bad side of people. So that’s not something that could be tested for in traditional sense.

[@nullskull6860]

Oh no guys he's not a carbon copy of everyone else! The horrer! How will he fit into society if he thinks for himself?

[@bruceclark5627]

You forgot the most important question,"how can we brainwash your child to be a good little marxist when we can't get them to ourselves 8 hours a day?".or "How can we use peer pressure to crush the /I'll think for myself,review multiple sources and come my own conclusion/types if we can't control their peer group?"

[@viceonafridaynight]

Because they choose to beileve what their parents beileve. I'm a Christian because my parents raised me on it, and now I'm a believer.

[@WorKSimi]

It’s not always like that. My 5th grade history teacher drilled in the idea of always questioning everything and thinking for yourself and stuff. He was a good guy

[@mattevans4377]

@@viceonafridaynight I presume you are the first born child.

[@itb4255]

@@WorKSimi My highschool is pretty insane, its extremely far left. You know the usual gender theory bs and sociology courses which teach white males to hate themselves. They sent a message about "gender science" to every student one time on the front page.

[@misterstaple]

@@WorKSimi good teachers seem to be rare these days

[@ashleypenn7845]

Hubby and I both went to public and private school. We both ended up with very unsatisfying educational experiences. I'm an accelerated book learner. He's a slower hands-on learner. I stagnated waiting for my classmates to catch up so we could move on. He slowly got left behind as everyone else passed him by. But he was homeschooled for 3 years and they were the best ones of his education. He could take as much time as he needed and learn in his own way. And he thrived. So we decided early on to homeschool our own kids. That way, however fast they learn, in whatever way they learn, we'll be meeting their needs right where they are. When our middle son was diagnosed with autism, that clinched it even further. Even his therapist agreed homeschool would be best because he thrives in the one-on-one attention and gets distracted if there are too many other people around. Homeschooling isn't for everyone. But I think more people should actually try it out instead of just writing it off from the get-go. You might just be surprised.

[@clownplayer7265]

Public schooling can feel a bit dissapointing once you grown up. I notized that while I did learn some skills, I also got some issues related to the stress. Also, Bob was really adorable in this one. :3

[@insanedragongirl]

I was homeschooled growing up, and I have some stress issues too. My older brother and one of my younger sisters went to public school and they did well too. I think it really depends on the child and what will best meet their needs.

[@lawrenceofarabia9219]

From my experience regular schooling has little effect on social skills. If your as socially awkward as I am the only difference between regular and home schooling is that one doesn’t involve being surrounded by degenerates and leftists.

[@viperstriker4728]

I was homeschooled and an introvert, then I picked up social skills from playing an RPG, then I went to college and everyone was always shocked when they found out I was homeschooled. Social skills are just like any other skill, little research and practice and you can pick them up anywhere.

[@smorrow]

Well the sensible null hypothesis is that school would affect social skills negatively. So the person saying there's no effect one way or the other has some explaining to do.

[@narnia1233]

@@viperstriker4728 That actually sounds like fun to learn socializing playing games with others. I wasn’t homeschooled but I imagine that you have more potential freedom in how your day is structured. And maybe opportunities to try activities you couldn’t do in regular school because they don’t offer it. Honestly there seems to be so many options nowadays with online learning. For example, I know a lot of public schools where I live still only offer two language classes to choose from. And it’s usually just French or German, which honestly is kind of useless. Chinese or Spanish would technically be more relevant or useful in current times. Or if the kid knew they wanted to learn a certain language out of interest that would be great to choose what they want to learn. I took French and I did actually use it a little because I went to France on a once in a lifetime trip. But even there you don’t really need to know it since the locals all know English so well. So it was kind of a bummer.

[@stevenschnepp576]

@@smorrow There's an argument to be made that public schools do just that by keeping students in a prison-like environment for eight hours a day, with supervisors more concerned with punishing anyone who makes a disturbance than in enforcing any sort of reasonable moral code.

[@fivebrosstopmos]

And that's not to mention that most homeschooling children are raised in a social church environment anyway.

[@azathoththe3rd]

This reminds me of one of shamus's videos on his own channel about the government teaching kids "Educated people don't ask questions they answer them" "With the answers you give them?" "Exactly"

[@martinmelanopaz6925]

I love how Bob became a lot more responsible after the BTTF series, it shows how he really did grow and does show his own opinions on the matter, like quetioning the if homescholeed children do become weirder

[@db9944]

I was wondering if Seamus would keep the character development at least to some extent.

[@martinmelanopaz6925]

@@db9944 me too, I think he took the chace of the series to make him more mature, and I'm hinestly glad

[@beccaporters]

Former homeschooler here 😁homeschooling is a system where you get out of it what you put into it. The smartest most high achieving kids I knew had very involved parents, whereas the parents that offered less structure and involvement had kids that clearly underperformed. No we are not social pariahs 😊 just find some other activities or a co-op and your kid will be fine.

[@SA-px9dz]

yeah i seen some homeschooled kids who sat only at home and studied,they turned out a little strange

[@auggieeasteregg2150]

I'm public schooled and my social life still peaked on Sunday nights

[@Dougy359]

My wife was homeschooled but lived in a super rural area so her and her siblings basically had no friends until they started going to a private high school. I love her but she and her brothers definitely lack socially

[@beccaporters]

@@Dougy359 I totally get that, which is why extra curricular activities like a sport or theater or SOMETHING is so crucial. I’m a big advocate for co-ops, if all else fails they at least have classmates once or twice a week.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@beccaporters This channel here is nice but SIMPLE; hence the word Soapbox in the name, i guess. So if you wanna keep learning and understanding what's up and what's wrong with stuff, go and check out Sci Man Dan, Some More News and Illuminaughtiii.

[@canadadry5449]

Wait. There's people talking about banning homeschooling? Why do I feel like it's the same people who want to indoctrinate the children into believing the same things that they themselves believe, and specifically for that reason, and not because they're actually concerned for the children?

[@laharl2k]

The goverment only cares about the government. Useful idiots will always want more power for the government, of course they dont want you to have power over YOUR children, if it were them they would take your kids away the moment they are born because "statistically speaking most abuse come from parents or close relatives" so somehow it makes sense doesnt it?.....they will use any excuse to take your freedom away and give themselves more power over you, this fake pandemic thing was just one of them.

[@smorrow]

The government of France currently is.

[@89playstation65]

It's because the government want school aged children to recieve the exact same education as everyone else....regardless if the parents or child agrees with the information being taught. And of course if the child doesn't go to school or the parents don't send their child to school OR soon if the parents homeschool, the parents COULD be arrested for truacy.

[@cadenlemley5329]

I'm going into my senior year of high school (my 13th year of public schooling) and there is no way I would put a kid through that system in this day and age.

[@Caroline-gl2ky]

As someone who was homeschooled from third grade all the way to twelfth grade, I am very happy with the knowledge I gained through learning from home. It has helped me be the university student that I am today!

[@sitkaseymore7713]

Homeschooling parents: I think I’ll teach my kids myself so they can learn more skills :) The public school-loving government: say sike rn

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

I really hated how far behind you can leave your classmates in public schools and the worst of all is that you are forced to stay at their pace. No wonders most people feel cheated out from life ever since school when the public education itself is locking your potential behind a "I get payed by the government, so why try?" fund.

[@druhu4590]

I'm kind of an edge case. On one hand, for most of my homeschooling, I was lonely, anxious, introverted, and depressed. On the other hand, I was going to "homeschool co-ops" and was sufficiently socialized, and I've turned out pretty ok so far, considering I was 1 of 4 homeschooled children, and my father was long dead. So the fact that I'm not a death/crime statistic for kids who grew up in fatherless homes is impressive. Outperforming -all- most of the public schoolers is nice too.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

I don't think introversion or extroversion has anything to do with homeschooling versus public schooling. My siblings and I were all homeschooled until high school. Half of us are still introverted, the other half are extroverted. That said, hats off to (I am assuming) your mother for pulling that shit off. That must have been grueling. I was lucky enough to have a mother and father to tag-team us.

[@viperstriker4728]

@@samuelzuleger5134 I have yet to see any evidence that introversion and extroversion change due to any life experience, And I say this as an introvert who fakes extroversion well enough that I have to full on debate to get people to believe me after they ask about my personality type. So I would agree with you that homeschooling doesn't effect this.

[@laharl2k]

Your problem was actually that you didnt have a dad.

[@druhu4590]

@@laharl2k no shit sherlock

[@stevenschnepp576]

Trust me, being a lonely, anxious, depressed introvert in public school is *not* better.

[@onionhat745]

I can pinpoint with laser like accuracy several events in my public school career that screwed me up enormously.

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

Can't we all bro can't we all sigh

[@TheWeirdKitty]

When I was actually going to public school I thought people weren't taught a lot because their parents gave them so much free time. But public school literally taught me nothing important and if they did they made it confusing as fuck. Tl;dr- I really wish I was homeschooled, public schools just tries to turn kids into puppets, and succeed most of the time

[@jjtninja]

I remember when I into public school after homeschooling in the 5th grade. Had me take a test to see if I was "educated enough" to be in 5th grade. Made a 100. Vice principal's response: "There's no way you made it that high, take it again." I took it again what do you know? Made 100. Honestly don't know why this bias even came about against home schoolers. These reasons on here were new to me, except for the scores one. But what really made me laugh during my 5th grade year, was I could read with no problems but everybody else in my class had to still sound out every single word.

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

Why is simple the government created a monopoly on education to this day remains largely intact meaning the vast majority of children will go into public school basically public school is government approved indoctrination into leftism and the reason they are so anti Homeschooling is that's children they don't have control over thus why all the bias and prejudice started relating relating home schools the whole " they'll be weird or they won't be as smart is nothing more then fear mongering to discourage parents from home schooling and remembering " wait a second these are our children the government does not have a divine right to decide what our children will be taught

[@funnyferret6064]

I was bullied for a lot of my public school years. I want to homeschool my kids.

[@laharl2k]

Remeber that when home schooling, your kids will be as smart as you are so put some time in thinking and learning to better yourself to so that then you can pass it on to them.

[@dakota9821]

@@laharl2k That's not how it works buddy.

[@laharl2k]

@@dakota9821 Thats exactly how it works. you cant teach what you dont know, so you need to know to teach it to them.

[@stevenschnepp576]

@@laharl2k Do you really think that homeschooling parents rely only, solely, and entirely on their own knowledge to educate their children?

[@zord1352]

Not every family is capable of organize proper "home schooling" for their children. Because of them we NEED public schools, but still home schooling is a good alternative for many. That's why it must to be defended.

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

To be fair, I don't understand why most parents don't want to parent their kids. It seems to be just as easy to watch over them on your free time.

[@doom5895]

@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast because parents don't like there kids in the first place public school is like babysitting to them

[@unbearablysmug2437]

@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast no sometimes the school does a better job teaching children than the parent

[@Raja1938]

@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast IKR? It's not like parents have jobs or anything.

[@sohibmohamed9548]

@@Raja1938 🤣

[@muggyfox1]

I was homeschooled because my parents wanted to avoid the troubles in public school, basically all that was listed in the video. And I'm going to homeschool my kids too. I learned more and faster on my own at home than many at school

[@gooseonamoose673]

FACTS FACTS FACTS!!!!! I’m just 16 and homeschooled, but I watch my public schooled friends at my church, and I see their attitudes, both towards each other, and their basic moral beliefs. I originally felt inferior in knowledge and public speaking abilities but that’s just not true. They all want so badly to not offend any one, and to be in the in group and be considered cool, when it doesn’t really matter. People aren’t kind any more, and I miss the southern hospitality I used to get with my homeschooled friends. They were kind, and were gentle in word, though they would tease you as a sign of love, but not out of cruelty like I see other places. I know I’m just spilling, but I want people to see from my perspective what it’s like. I have good grades, and I live in the country. My parents raise me with basic and proper moral standards: respect and treat women with dignity, love your country and your freedoms, love your fellow man, no matter his skin tone(all lives matter), and live a life that is beneficial to those around you, and to the kingdom of God. Kids education should be up to the parents, not the government

[@Asinine_weeb]

The social interactions is something I would want more info on. I went to an online based homeschool. The issue was that I never was around anyone

[@cadenflynn1587]

I imagine that children who are homeschooled are less likely to develop disorders like social anxiety or depression or things similar to that.

[@ligitz]

I do notice a social naivety in home school kids I've met, and been. But not a poor ability to navigate social circumstances. If they are a little naive but better emotionally I would very much prefer that.

[@grantjohnson5785]

An online based school isn't homeschooling... it's public school at home, just like the crap most kids have been going through last spring and this year due to COVID. REAL homeschooling requires parents (or some other instructor) being present and providing actual learning experiences.

[@ligitz]

@Ryan agreed.

[@gustavesoucy-breton6841]

same here.

[@bluegriffen88]

I'm perfectly social and graduated with a 3.4 even being the worst student in my class(bottom 5%). Yeah homeschooling is better in every way and I'm going to homeschool my girls in a couple of years.

[@5.56_Media]

Please Home School and help save our Families and our Nation.

[@deadshadowhunter2791]

Wow you guys have got to be the first mager channel I've seen cover this topic

[@borkerman]

I remember reading that when Sweden banned Home schooling, some families moved to the Alands Islands, which are part of Finland.

[@medleysa]

The main reason I homeschool my kids: I worked for my public school district.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

I know that at least seven of the teachers who taught in my local school district growing up who either homeschooled or sent their kids to charter/private schools. It sure says something of the quality of the product when the people who make it don't buy it.

[@timothyjacksondrake4454]

I'm going to use this quote.

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

@@samuelzuleger5134 tells you all you need to know

[@thomasb4467]

I homeschool my children. Try to stop me.

[@DJUniMekaju]

What's it like to homeschool multiple children of different ages?

[@samuelzuleger5134]

I won't be stopping you. You can do it!

[@thomasb4467]

@@DJUniMekaju It depends on the ages but it can turn into a juggling act. Find a good homeschooling curriculum and you’ll be fine. The nice thing with homeschooling is you don’t have as many time constraints. If you want to give them two weeks off for summer break before beginning the next grade then that works. It just gives you more flexibility throughout the year if you want to take a day off here and there for other things.

[@DJUniMekaju]

@@thomasb4467, thank you.

[@moosechuckle]

We just got accepted at an awesome small Christian private school. Our second resort was homeschool, which we have been doing since our kid was 3. Public school is a standard, and the private sector can alway do as good or better than public.

[@danielknapp159]

In case it was not clear; you should decide. Not the government.

[@RedQuill13]

I get the point about social skills a lot when I tell people I wanna homeschool my future children. I went to public school and am working towards a career that would allow me to work from home. So I see no reason not to homeschool kids. I've met homeschooled kids before, most that are done for religious reasons resent the religious side of it but are glad they didnt do public school otherwise. Ivemet many people who would have wanted to be homeschooled due to bullying, education requirements, and inability to thrive in the classroom setting. As someone who was all of the above in school, it is likely my future children would be similar so thus why homeschool is what I'd like to do.

[@scaldedape6213]

2020 was a massive "i told you so" to all the people with kids I know.

[@lawrencemiller3829]

What is unexpected to me is that the daughter of a public school teacher home schooled her children (the grandchildren of the school teacher). This daughter seems 'normal' and average in other aspects. ... I believe in a real education, and believe it won't come from public schools, which are used to launder money through the teacher's unions into political campaigns, being turned into day care centers, and even supporting known dangerous children and criminals as was shown by the policies at Parkland. The Parkland shooter was know to be dangerous since kindergarten and had attacked people in high school. The school policies tolerated certain crimes on school property.

[@ninjaartist1235]

The only time people praise the public school system is when they tell you not to homeschool. Smh.

[@jamesford2942]

You don't often find homeschool kids getting involved in smoking, drinking, and drugs at school. I think that age segregation at public school is detrimental to social development. It guides you to seek advice from people the same age as you who don't know anymore about life than yourself.

[@hardwirecars]

really cuse i did 1 year of homeschool (dont do that either all the way or none) and we went to group meetings and kids my age still came to me and i went to them people are going to seek out there peers no mater what.

[@seantaylor6691]

Excellent! I already knew we planned on homeschooling, but these are some very fantastic points.

[@stopreadingmyusernamebroth9090]

Could you do a video debunking the “systemic racism explained” video? Ben makes some good points but a lot of people seem to think that he was horrible. Think you could give it a shot?

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

Might be a hard one for them to animate, but it would be an interesting topic.

[@stopreadingmyusernamebroth9090]

Blake Blast not on this channel

[@omnitroph1501]

"Parents? Who are they to question our wonderful public school system?" Screwtape proposes a toast.

[@UmatsuObossa]

I was homeschooled but didn't get my GED til i was like 30...i ONLY studied up on math to prep (pointless because NOTHING i studied ended up useful for the test). The teacher was talking to me like I was special needs when i first got there and started on the preliminary test. When I finished it and she checked my score, I saw genuine surprise on her face, she congratulated me and suddenly started talking to me as if I was an adult. I passed the real test with flying colors only except they didn't like my essay because I wasn't politically correct. They made us write essays on why we should lower the voting age. I wrote why we shouldn't.

[@grantjohnson5785]

There's many reasons why our Founding Fathers started it at age 21. If only the gov't had responded to (perfectly valid) protests over the draft during Vietnam by raising the draft age to 21 instead of lowering the voting age to 18...

[@wattsisnaim8111]

Wait... Common Sense Soapbox has it's own channel?! I'm here!

[@theguywhoasked5591]

That’s the problem with Society. The government is expected to parent the child rather then the parents parenting the child.

[@jacobkreifels7690]

Proud homeschooler here! An awesome video like always!

[@supanerdreviews4056]

Another point id like to make is that several officials on the school board making decisions about curriculum don’t even have a teaching degree or were never teachers themselves. Not saying it should necessarily be a requirement to be put on the school board but promoting or electing teachers could help bring attention to the fundamental issues of the school system. Not to mention the fundamental classroom which was originally designed to help teach skills for factory and labor jobs has remained virtually unchanged for decades

[@JB-ym4up]

Actual conversation: After getting called out by someone else for a stupid post after making 10 stupid posts. Them: You so stupid. Where you home schooled? Me: @them Where are people home schooled? At home. Where you are schooled is on the internet

[@AshnSilvercorp]

people- _Oh no, we can't follow the government because of orange man._ also people- _We can trust the government to properly fund and manage schools._

[@m.j.piazza7853]

I was homeschooled for ten years. Right now, I’m a 20-year-old college junior with straight A’s and a job as a substitute teacher (I’m teaching high school science on Friday). I hope to give my kids an education that’s practically identical to my own.

[@nemopatrickson6925]

I was homeschooled. I went to college at 14 and got my AA degree by 18 last year

[@astralprophecy2419]

As a homeschooled person, I appreciate this.

[@TheBelieveit1]

Honestly, when has the government EVER really took YOUR well-being and best interests to heart?

[@ReformedSooner24]

Ah a new character. In other words *FRESH MEAT TO BE RED PILLED*

[@calebthompson8230]

As someone who was homeschooling K-12 and is now a Junior in engineering, I feel qualified to say that homeschooling works

[@thecaptain29]

Everyone's homeschooling right now thanks to covid. Just kidding, it's still the same amount of people.

[@yy08nbd]

Just say it guys, it's an over estimated prision.

[@dave2808]

My parents had to work, so they couldn't homeschool my siblings and I but there's always other ways to learn. One thing that's stupid is when people say "wE dIdN't LeArN tHiS iN sChOoL." There's was alot of stuff we didn't learn and was probably something that wasn't really that important

[@samuelzuleger5134]

I get what you're saying, I understand it, and agree with it, but there are risks there. In my freshman year of college, we were taking a course on US government and discussing the US Constitution. Many of the students raised objections with the professor, who was a bit older, by saying that they hadn't learned about the Constitution in school. *ALARM BELLS* Schools decide what is and isn't important, and some (not all) don't teach things that are important. Often, parents simply aren't engaged so they just assume. The result is 20-year-olds who vote, but say they are too young to really understand all that stuff like the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Thankfully, my parents were engaged.

[@dave2808]

@@samuelzuleger5134 that's a good point. We should switch stuff that may not be as important and makes things that actually affect our daily lives on top of the important list. Like power house of a cell, not sure why I needed to learn that

[@stevenschnepp576]

For me, the strongest argument for homeschooling is the social development. I'd want my kids coming up mentally healthy and well-adjusted, not institutionalized and brutalized at the hands of their peers after twelve years (or more) in a prison-like environment.

[@redseagaming7832]

I was homeschooled my parents didn't want me to be indoctrinated at Public School

[@samuelzuleger5134]

I was homeschooled. It was what all the public school teachers were doing. That wasn't the reason why we did it, but it put a huge doubt on the quality of public school education in our local district.

[@SunwardRanger83]

The thing no one seems to point out is that this doesn't have to be an either or proposition. Even if you can't homeschool, or want your kids to go public so they can be around kids their own age, why not spend a little extra time tutoring them at home? You'll find out what they're being taught and if it's sensible, you can help them in any areas they're struggling in, and you can help them focus on subjects they're actually interested in to prepare them for any higher education they might choose to do later.

[@wulfherecyning1282]

If you're raising your kid to eventually do something like take over your business, them spending 5 days a week in school means they don't grow up with an understanding of the business. A better system would be 3 days at school, 2 at home to learn for what they'll actually be doing in life, but this isn't usually allowed. The alternative is to homeschool, teach them enough from academia to survive, but then give them the actual skills they'll need. As it currently is with schools, if you want to teach your kid skills for the future not covered by the syllabus, you're stuck doing it over the weekend (thereby stealing your kid's rest days) or the evenings (when they're tired from school), not to mention they'll also have homework to do. This makes the kid resent the idea of inheriting the business. But if you do homeschooling where you teach them academically in the morning, and teach them the business in the afternoons, or some other combination, they'll grow up with a better appreciation and skill for actually inheriting. Sure, maybe they won't get a high grade in music or art, but so what? If they want to be an artist they can still choose to do so later. You instead teach them math, English and science, maybe one or two other subjects, and give them a high quality of business acumen which will serve them far better in the future. But no, can't do that. Gotta cram all the kids, regardless of intelligence or interest or what they are likely to actually do with their lives, into prisons all week with no time for basically anything else. I wouldn't mind state schools if they didn't use up the whole week. If they left time over for parents to pass on life experience and skills. But they don't. If I want my kid to be a lawyer, and he has the aptitude and interest, isn't it better that I spend 2 "school days" per week schooling him on how to think like a lawyer, than having him waste his time playing a flute which he hates?

[@ClokworkGremlin]

I was homeschooled, and I've met a number of other people who were homeschooled as kids. We've all noticed that we generally have a more well-rounded education and better academic performance past grade school levels.

[@haberak3310]

All I’m gonna say is that I was able to do more stuff in my year homeschooled than any year public schooled in half the time, and I still did as well, if not, better than most other years

[@blues03]

I did public school from 1st to 10th grade. I did a week of 11th grade then was given the option of homeschooling by my parents. I finished my 11th and 12th-grade schooling within the same year and started college 1 year early.

[@statelesscaesar9682]

I know this is completely anecdotal, but my public school district was crap. We still had Clinton as the lastest president in our text books, my physics teacher was literally the worst and didn't anything in class, and the TEA had to completely take over the school board and the superintendent is now in prison for embezzlement. Public schools need to be improved or disolved.

[@LibertyLocalizer]

Bob's learning

[@itsthatonechickagaincallth7843]

I did amazing in homeschooling, but when put in public school I had extreme anxiety, was bullied horribly, and had to drop out because I was having crippling stomach cramps to the point I had to starve myself just to be able to walk from class to class. I only stayed awake my eating mints. Overall, I had to drop out.

[@masonrumuly4240]

The state should have the same relationship with schools that it does with churches.

[@breadskin8228]

The difference is school tries to educate people while a church does the opposite.

[@giulizpaviz6381]

I'm from Italy, but I do remember (from personal experience), that I learned more by studying on my own than in school, not to mention the social issues that happened in school (like teachers not doing anything against bullying or teachers humiliating students with understanding issues) My only question (since I've never heard about homeschool until recently), what about diplomas and degrees?

[@classicjoe8014]

When I subscribed to this channel, the normal freedomtoons channel disappeared from my subscription feed...

[@philipjohnson3942]

0:12 all 3 were the reason I was pre-high school

[@TheGameMage_]

1:20 “What about the potential for child abuse” “Thats another great reason for home schooling” Um you should probably make sure stuff you do in the future isnt going to sound bad at first like that

[@laharl2k]

Well acoding to lesftists teaching kids conservative values is child abuse, so either way they will make it sound bad. Dont bother trying not to sound bad to those who anything you say sounds bad to them. If they dont have an excuse they will just make one. Dont waste your time over it.

[@racer776690]

Funny yesterday I saw a video where homeschooling is on the rise in north Carolina to point it's 60% of all students. It's awesome.

[@stvargas69]

The case against homeschooling: the schools will lose funding. The case for homeschooling: thats how it was done prior to becoming "civilized"

[@smorrow]

This. Peter Gray makes the sense that unschooling and Sudbury schools are modern-day equivalents of the environment of adaptedness. Steven Pinker wrote the praise for his book.

[@VictoriousWatchman]

And without public school, how will those kids learn how to be gay, or transgender?

[@ChecedDomingcil]

i mean, i do learn more in my own free time than i do in public school, so...

[@madelinevance8954]

I’ve done public, private, charter, and homeschool. The year I was homeschooled was the best year out of all of them. I had so much fun and still had awesome friends, even outside of church. Advice: have your kids do sports or youth groups or other activities where they get to hang out with other kids if you’re still afraid of them becoming a little too awkward.

[@daytoncoates4930]

0:40 when homeschool teaches you to be better at standardized tests, than the kids who have to go through the standardized program

[@samuelzuleger5134]

The thing is, homeschooling never taught me to be better at standardized tests. It just taught be subjects...which also happened to be on standardized tests!

[@matthewdevine8275]

Home schooled all my life. 10 kids in the family and I'm the older of the middle two. My parents did it primarily for religious reasons, but also because preschool was holding my oldest sibling back and he was bored out of his mind. I'd say my parents did subpar in our education (part of the reason for that is the fact that, on average, we moved every 2-1/2 years). I thought most of my friends, also home schooled, were pretty far ahead of me academically. Now that most of my siblings are graduated it's interesting to see where we are at. One with no collage education works primarily with PHD and Masters graduates. One is an electrician, with some collage as part of the job. One got a BA (easier than he thought) and after several years now works in the field of his major. ect, ect. I think we are doing just fine. Socially, we always had several siblings around, and friends from Church meetings and sport activities (generally home schooled families in both groups). I used to think we might have been socially awkward, till I actually started interacting with kids who were public schooled and realized there wasn't much of a difference, extroverts were still extroverted and introverts were still introverted.

[@minutemansmonitor]

One public schooler normie disliked this video.

[@TheLeastOfficialOfBros]

Kids are like sponges when it comes to knowledge. And who better to fill that sponge with what it needs than the parents?

[@Science-ev1he]

No no, I’ve met some homeschooled kids. He’s right, they are kinda weird. Private > Home > Public

[@JackAkaJCK]

In Germany during the quarantine we had school supervised homeschooling, the school gives you tasks over the internet and 2 weeks or so you give it filled out back It was great for me

[@coffeehousedialogue]

I wish I *was* homeschooled. I would probably be working a higher paying job than retail about now. But, no! It had to be government schools all the way! If ever I have kids, I'll give them the education (private or homeschooling) that I never got.

[@jerradh222]

I work with a guy who was home schooled. He truly reinforces the concept that they are socially awkward.

[@007kingifrit]

aren't high schooled kids worse though? traumatized i think

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

@@007kingifrit no. still just fine, not to say better Either that or I'm a sociopath

[@LocalMaple]

I was in a public school that took two separate consequences to “no child left behind.” First, “dumb child dragged behind.” Additional classes were made to they could pass a course in a category. For example, “math” that was reading an analog clock or counting coins. I had a teacher tell me he was forced to pass students too lazy to fill out any homework or test. Second, “no child gets ahead.” I’m on the spectrum, and school wasn’t teaching me at a pace that would require me to develop healthy study habits. I finished homework in class, tests early, and had many books taken away mid class. But because I was such a great statistic, the school resisted moving me up a grade. My mom homeschooled me. I was engaged in learning, and got done 2 whole years in one. But since I was autistic, my mom wanted me to be around other kids and learn proper social skills. Because I took all those classes at home, the school was forced to skip me 1-2 grades (depending on the subject). I was the youngest student one year to take the AP Calculus exam, and got the highest score for that year. But school still didn’t challenge me enough to study properly. So when I went to college, I struggled, horribly.

[@pastelpirate9906]

I was actually physically abused in my elementary years. I will not be sending my child to public school. Charter schools maybe but likely homeschooling will be my go to.

[@CommonSenseSoapbox]

That's awful. I'm sorry to hear that.

[@smorrow]

If you see charter schools as an option then you might not have understood all this alternatives-to-school stuff.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHayaXd7n5uijtU

[@BBB_bbb_BBB]

I'm a teacher in Ontario. Every month we get a magazine as part of our membership (you have to pay to be a teacher, don't you love government bodies). In this magazine is a section of all disciplinary action taken against member teachers. And every month, for just the province of Ontario alone, we have about 30 cases of sexual misconduct. I wish they'd make this print public so everyone could see how morally superior we teachers are. It's absolutely ridiculous.

[@kennethkline7702]

I think we should allow the government to choose whether we should allow the government to choose for us!

[@ZayJayPlays]

Bob's bio chapter 1: "Clean up your mess Bob!" "Stop clogging the toilet, Bob!" "Pay your half of the rent, Bob!"

[@MSTaeryn]

Was 100% home schooled, 10/10 would do again

[@DEEPGNOSTIC]

Been homeschooling my two boys since 1st grade. Best. Adventure. Ever.

[@Justanothermusicnerdxo]

Obviously we should have the freedom to select which way we school our children, including homeschool. That being said, I still firmly believe that a form of group schooling (whether public or private school) is beneficial to the social development of kids. I think school choice is a more admirable pursuit then just pushing homeschooling, there are plenty of private schools that also address a lot of these concerns.

[@panhandlefam2149]

In Oklahoma homeschooling is protect by the state constitution.

[@Jack-Anonymous]

I was public schooled until the seventh grade, and when I was sixteen, I had already got 1600 on the SAT and a 36 on the ACT. In public school I was told I was stupid because I am an auditory learner with an Auditory Processing Disorder.

[@malokeytheallaround]

I did most of elementary school before I convinced (begged) my mom to pull me and my brother out. Best decision we have ever made. I love just being at home not having to worry about all the drama and headaches that come with school. I have run into a few of my schoolmates over the years, and they have all said that I made an amazing choice, because my school has been going further and further down the drain. I pray that it will get better, though.

[@levioneill9677]

I homeschool our first-grader and he's doing orders of operation using fractions. The idea of sending him back to public school is hard to imagine.