What's The Point of the Democratic Baltic Union? - Hoi4

Today in Estonia the Era of Silence will be brought to a loud end, as democracy will spread throughout the nation. The Veteran Vaps will be dealt with and Estonia will begin to unify Latvia and Lithuania under one Baltic Flag.
Along the way we will be exploring the Democratic Baltic focus tree, seeing what's good about it, what's not and try to find a point to it. Meanwhile we will have to turn to some unlikely sources to attempt to ensure our survival against the oncoming Red Tide.
Music used from:
A Hat in Time - Gears for Breakfast
Hearts of Iron IV - Paradox Interactive
All Copyright is reserved to it's respective owners as required to the situation.
16/12/22.

[@BubblesZest]

It was always going to be WTP this week, however the first idea I was going with turned out to be both too ambitious and sorta boring, going to need a tad more time before it can come out. Fortunately Democratic Baltics have been on my list of ideas for months so I wasn't entirely out of luck this time.

[@Daniel-en1on]

4:12 In Ireland the phrase ‘it’s Baltic’ means it’s freezing cold as the weather is here at the moment.

[@BubblesZest]

The same is true in Britain funnily enough. Small world.

[@delano4526]

@@BubblesZest small island

[@legaullonapoleonien8760]

Hello Bubbles Zest, I have a few idea of future "What's the point ?" : - The "Surrender the East" path for Communist Poland - The "The Beck-Ribbentrop Pact" path for fascist Poland - The Orléanist France path !

[@NotBartlebee]

With the surrender the east path can take greater polish ssr which gives the soviets an event to give the east back and core German polish lands

[@maxstirnersego]

Wait I could have sworn he did a surrender the east video

[@robland3253]

Surrender east and then do fight for independence

[@joaquinvideo2959]

Surrender the east is good tho, you get some industry, are allied with the USSR, and just get it back by asking nicely

[@Gaming4Justice]

As an Estonian, I can tell you that you absolutely buchered all the words lmao hahah. If I didn't see the text, I'd have no idea what you're saying. // Also, you can build impenetrable fortress in Tallinn or on the island of Saaremaa. In that case, even without guarantees, you can hold it until Germany and Soviets go to war and then wait until Soviets lose. Then you get your territory back. I even ended one game with having one extra province near Leningrad.

[@jesseseeberg-gordon7967]

Bro the Riigikogu one was so bad lmao

[@giahungnguyen6334]

Now I know the point of Baltic union, it’s for vanilla multiplayer, every baltic nation does the focuses, let the union buffs stacks and becomes significantly stronger, together hold the line

[@CobraForce007]

I really like those what’s the point videos. Greetings from Spain.

[@YankeeFromArizona]

I’ve done Baltic democratic union a lot, good fun tbh

[@Boszziuryayok]

Germany annoyingly rejecting granting the guarantee is part of why I always rush the guarantee as any Baltic nation, so that I can cut the run short if necessary 😂 I can’t say I’ve detected any pattern, it seems like it’s just predetermined from the beginning of your run.

[@dionelshani1083]

you desperately need support aa in your divisions. Engineer company wouldve been useful aswell. you could even hold the border with these support companies

[@BubblesZest]

The Soviets had 1200 planes over my airzone and were doing 25 cas damage, aa and engies would've helped but only to delay the inevitable.

[@user-fo8ff2gl8n]

@@BubblesZest try getting a general with camouflage trait

[@llhammer3075]

I played democratic Baltic and tried to be a bastion of democracy

[@xanthespace5141]

I feel like I'm in the minority of hoi4 players who actually like playing democratic minor countries. Hell, even Spain

[@SweetPeace-Peas]

I have never played a nation and been democratic and not changed it. Ever.

[@LegiyonEhellout]

Opposite for me. In Vanilla I only ever played a fascist nation once (poland cossack king), and I don't think I ever played a communist nation. Edit: to clarify, I have around 800 hours I always turn democratic or non aligned. I just don't have any fun playing fashs or commies, because I like to immerse myself as the nation I am playing, and imagine I am defending it from invaders. Having a murderous ideology rule it kinda defeats the point of how I like to play.

[@user-wm6zf4jg2z]

Democratic USA is their strongest path tbh

[@threatbear]

@@user-wm6zf4jg2z Democratic Mengkukuo wins

[@Boszziuryayok]

Ever try going democratic as RoC? 😂

[@tech_red4277]

@Allecto There isn't a democratic path of Russia

[@firemochimc]

You probably could have survived if you added engineer support, AA support and made your main template the standard 22 width with arty. I did this as Vapsid Estonia with a puppet Finland while not in the Axis and survived pretty easily.

[@DarthFhenix55]

Nazi Germany saving Estonia and then the both partitioning Russia is the most random thing I saw in a long time.

[@brominelover6747]

Fascist path for Estonia is my favorite tree in the game. Pagan Latvia is also nice

[@piercebunge4297]

Couldn't you of done it? Breaking of the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact was only a couple months away!

[@Sednas]

I was easily able to hold off the Soviets when I tried it

[@ikskilnieks3753]

In any baltic playthrough i always went foe allied trade, due to the 300 or so british planes. This for the most part ensured my air superiority over the baltic (because the soviets didnt bother to put planes in the baltic if i had 400-500 planes up there). Then i just sit there and wait until Germany pushes the soviets so that i can start pushing too.

[@sbeve8474]

If you kick the other 2 nations and do united but separate you get wargoals and the extra bonuses so you can form the baltics via decision

[@Prauwlet213]

It’s actually fun

[@Chrissbio]

I've never seen anyone play historical ehtiopia and board the train, could you try that ?

[@BubblesZest]

Democratic Ethiopia is the closest I'm going to get to that, check it out.

[@Emel_unlegit]

Maybe building more AA would've been worth

[@BubblesZest]

If only it were that simple

[@Emel_unlegit]

@@BubblesZest I mean static AA. Plus maybe go down the economic path on the right for military factors maybe? Plus maybe support equipment for entrenchment is worth not having some units

[@David._.56]

❤️❤️ W yt :)

[@Suolaomena]

i dont have the form thing in desicions and i dont have those things in the focus tree

[@JavierSanchez-zj6su]

You need no step back dlc

[@pc_suffering6941]

is it vanilla?

[@BubblesZest]

Yes

[@kirby1225]

you want support AA and engineers, if you didn't have those already.

[@abdibarkhad5984]

Vic 3 Japanese shogunate flag

[@musAKulture]

aa and engineer