What's the REAL STORY of Into the Pit?! | FNAF Theory

[@gidelix]

one hitch i see in this theory - how does oswald’s father get back into the pit by the end if his body is outside but possessed?

[@RyeToast]

Great point and I didn't think about it until now, Night 5 is the ONLY night where the rabbit chases us into the pit from the "modern day". And that's the night we pull him out of the pit. He went back in!

[@bebu0815]

​@@RyeToast maybe he was tired of playing around and identity theft, and just wanted to kill oswald and "Dad", next to the Children wich were killed in the game

[@Cakes1170]

Every now and then during gameplay you can see bits of purple though the rabbit suit

[@the-shy1]

I think that there wasn't oswald's dad in real world. The real dad is in the pit, so i think that the dad we see irl is itp bonnie but illusion. I remember there was a book on how some animatronics hide by using illusion discs, but in this case, when u get out of the pit u still see fake dad and illusion bonnie meanwhile real bonnie and dad are in the pit. So maybe both fake dad and bonnie are memories of the family and oswald to fill in the missing piece in irl world so that nobody freaks out or that the world doesnt fall apart or smth. There's a theory that the ball pit is NOT time travel and instead memories and agony of the missing kids, so if the real bonnie and ball pit world are just memories, then fake dad and bonnie are memories too. Kinda fills in itself if u think ab it this way.

[@Wailerman]

I think what it is is that it's not Oswald's *actually* dad, but his consciousness, which was overruled by Pit Bonnie

[@DDDabber44]

If anyone brings up the word continuity in a room full of Fnaf theorists, the theorists would probably have a mass heart attack

[@RyeToast]

Me too though

[@GloriousApe]

I'd instantly die

[@jacobcrumpton4643]

*actively dying of heart attack*

[@Markcrazeer]

Making the fnaf multiverse was a mistake. Not making it abundantly clear what timeline we are working with for each piece even worse.

[@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo]

Seems like we got a few on here *CONTINUITY!*

[@koghs]

"Visceral hallucinations" The visceral hallucination in question: Freddy hitting the griddy

[@dogecursor5190]

That is quite visceral

[@Adam_Love_Syck]

The Friddy Rizzbear

[@Tottosmile]

I feel like since there's so much focus on agony and memories, Afton's agony doesn't even have to be in the suit for it to act like him in my opinion. The rabbit looks and acts like the kids would remember it and their memories might be enough to shape its behaviour through their agony.

[@Tottosmile]

Admittedly the photo argument makes my point kinda weak. But it's just a theory!

[@victoriavidaud]

It could be both? It would just mean that Afton doesn’t have to have much agony in the suit, as if he even has a 10% amount in there, the other kids provide the other 90%, so it still kind of works? The picture would be the 10%, but the rest of the actions are built of the monstrous fear of the rabbit and what he would do to the new kid they’re seeing trying to help

[@kittymarie3557]

What if Afton actually felt enough sick twisted joy that he infected the suit with his Remnant which mixed with their agony?

[@homerman76]

@@victoriavidaud It even works better from this perspective because it explains why it freaks out, there's some memory that makes it realize the picture has significance, but the Yellow Rabbit doesn't understand why the picture matters, the inability to recall causes it to get angry and become even more aggressive than before because it needs to know more but it can't fathom why, but it does know that Oswald created this source of distress.

[@TheoryChum]

If you read the epilogues of the FazBear Frights, you find out it's Eleanor filling the Pit with more agony, not Afton, at all. It's just the imprinted memory the victims who's Agony is in the pit, how they saw Afton during the event that created their Agony. Afton comes back in an entirely different way, and isn't connected to the Pit other than creating it's Agony.

[@Caleb-pd5fr]

There’s two reasons why Into the Pit is doing so well: quality and novelty. It’s taking a now legacy series and doing something that’s totally new in a format different from pretty much any other FNAF game out there, and I am pretty confident they’ll do Fetch or another Fazbear Frights story next

[@roscoe5427]

fnaf fans in 2016 when the newest game is a different format vs fnaf fans in 2024 when the nearest game is a different format

[@missmarie_8790]

Yes! I agree whole heartedly with this! Also it adds to the 80s theme with it playing like a 80s choose your own adventure pc games, where you have lots of text to read to move on to the next stage of the game, and choices you make effect the game play. It’s great theming!

[@chaincat33]

don't say that. Don't tell me fnaf is a legacy series. It just started like 5 years ago... Right?

[@1roxyfan491]

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[@Cherrycherrylady1479]

The art style is SO cool too!!

[@acemcwolf5445]

One thing that helps the "Afton's agony is within Pit-Bonnie" theory: One of the Easter-Egg phone numbers you can call lets you hear the moment Afton is Springlocked. This is in spite of the fact that nothing else in this game relates to Afton raiding the old animatronics for Remnant, It's just there.

[@AdrianHernandez-rn1sq]

Yeah, I believe pit-Bonnie is a giant agony creature of the agony William Afton created

[@Nelsito99]

​@@AdrianHernandez-rn1sqthere could be more than 1 spring bonnie suit as we see 2 different ones in fnaf 4 where 1 is more brown when the 1 in the storage room is the proper gold color and in a different between night fnaf 4 minigame we see the shadows of the 2 on stage but going back we see an employee getting suited up with a fredbear suit helped by a purple person (it is never stated that that person is william) so the real william could have been springlocked by a different suit but the one he used for the mci was left in the ballpit with blood or tears left on it creating the agony seen in the story of into the pit

[@JAYMOO508]

The guy who built the stitchwraith was a complete idiot by the way. He built the whole agony monster with no protection so it killed him by accident. He probably thought, "Hey, let's make a monster made purely of anger." Like, how did he not think about it.

[@bluejay2931]

Fr Bro really started fucking with the paranormal and went “I’m sure this will end well” 😭😭

[@daedae556]

Henry? Or am I mistaken?

[@Bruhmanofyear2]

​@@daedae556no, not Henry

[@Retro_Red]

He spent all this time asking if he could do it when he should have asked if he should do it

[@anotherchaos]

​@@daedae556Dr.Phineas is the one who created the stitchwraith.

[@piercelindenberg6842]

The school kids turning into animatronics was a result of Oswald’s sleep deprivation.

[@homerman76]

And growing stress and anxiety

[@Bruhmanofyear2]

And trauma from his dad going missing and being replaced and him being hunted by robots for mutiple nights

[@mightymou]

Figuring out Into the Pit’s story feels like chasing a never-ending rabbit hole. Props to anyone who can make sense of it!

[@derekstryder2281]

Hehe rabbit hole Dammit Afton.

[@francescocagnoni]

Also to back your "William's agony is inside the suit" point, at 18:16 you can see a voice line that says "I will make you suffer just like i did".

[@saygoodbye-sfm]

I always figured that the reality of the ball pit was a culmination of the MCI's agony, not just the children's agony but also the agony felt by the family who lost them, the news paper in fnaf 1 mentions that they knew the killer wore one of the mascot suits and given hw's message of "nothing was proven in a court of law" i see pittrap as a manifestation of the agony of the parents who where furious with this "monster in a rabbit suit" that took their children away from them

[@saygoodbye-sfm]

Although the addition of the photo with Henry does kinda throw off that train of thought form me

[@Bruhmanofyear2]

I really like this as Pit-Trap is literally depicted as a disgusting fleshy monster inside of his suit with Sharp Teeth

[@xKatsGalaxiix]

The joy I recieve every time I see his cats ❤

[@RyeToast]

Same

[@dosilius2568]

Me: "We are time traveling now!" Scott Cawthon: "Are you sure about that?"

[@verdantmistral442]

I was very interested in the Bad End that seems to suggest that Oswald becomes Foxy (based on how he feels weird and stops walking in front of Foxy's stage). It's possible the glowing eyes is suggesting that while we think we're seeing a human, it is really a human in an animatronic. Also Oswald's ability to see both the Rabbit and his dad seems very similar to when the kid in 4th Closet is injected with remnant. He sees Afton as both the Rabbit and the man, but sort of flickering or glitching.

[@Claudia-wg8pe]

Omg. You're so right

[@urmajerk]

Supporting point of this is also the phone! Even if you’re in the past, the phone always calls the present, implying that the time truly never changes. And yes, even that phone guy voicemail. That just plays because Jeff is not at the front desk because he’s playing solitaire, and he probably didn’t bother to change the voicemail, since the call also plays in the present.

[@homerman76]

The only caveat is that it creates a problem with where the rat and the arcade parts from the past came from, it'd be kind of a cop-out to claim those are hallucinations too when they affect more than Oswald

[@HeyItsCheIIe]

Except Jeff's does have a proper voicemail (with a jumpscare noise to boot) if you call him enough times

[@xenonmon]

One problem I have with the theory is the bad ending when Oswald just leaves his father behind and walks out of the pizzeria in the past. If the past is the manifestation of the agonizing memories of that day, then how can Oswald leave the pizzeria?

[@MathewRYF]

There is the possibility that him leaving the Pizzeria is uncoupling his mind from his body the same way his father's was. His physical body is probably still in the pit, but his mind is now wandering just like a spirit.

[@socialgoat5519]

Also, if Oswald's dad is never saved, then Oswald won't have been born, which means he never goes into the ball pit, which means that all of these events can't happen. Which of course, means that if the events don't happen, the dad is never taken, Oswald is born, goes into the pit, and the events do happen. It's a bit of a paradox

[@gundamgamer7060]

This interpretation actually does make the most sense to me. Especially the idea that the possessed Spring Bonnie suit being strangled to death at the end is just the last of its Agony fading away and no longer animating the suit (instead of it _actually_ being strangled).

[@phoneguy4637]

the biggest mystery in the story is how Oswald can draw Fazbear characters when he never met them before and even admits that he doesn't know Fazbear Entertainment. some speculate that it's remnant seeping through the walls and vents, planting false memories into Oswald's head. but neither the novel nor the game hints at that. another theory is that the ballpit is filled with the souls of past murder victims and Oswald's conciousness is reliving the events from the past. but this is also not hinted out, neither in the novel nor in the game.

[@MathewRYF]

To be fair... Oswald DID spend his entire summer at Jeff's Pizza. He's within close enough range to the ball pit that the spiritual energy could be seeping into him. His creative mind and open mind would make him more prone to that stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if it WAS seeping into the adults, too. It might explain why Jeff always looks so tired. Reminds me of Abby's drawings in the FNAF movie, actually. There was something similar going on with her and her "imaginary" friend. On one last, not serious note, being a fan of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure has totally changed how I look at this stuff xD. I'm immediately thinking about the actual mechanics for these things. Hence why range and exposure over time were the first things I thought about.

[@phoneguy4637]

@@MathewRYF all I'm trying to point out is that neither novel nor game mention or point at agony, remnant and/or ghosts. and, imho that indeed is one big problem. to me, it simply feels like Fans are making up an excuse for something the writers and developers may have overlooked. if a novel and its game adaptation do not mention a certain story element then I dunno if it's a good idea to just make one up and throw it in as if it was fact. you know what I mean?

[@theforgottenscribe]

​@@phoneguy4637 Uh, that's a weird assertion to make given the fact the Fazbear Frights books are chocked FULL of supernatural occurrences and happenings and the Epilogues show its all happening as a timeline of events given the presence of Millie in the ballpit in the books. It shouldn't have to say it blatantly in your face for you to make that connection-its called interpretation and reading between the lines. You're SUPPOSED to think about this stuff and it's relevancy to one another. Otherwise why bring the ballpit back in the final epilogue at all if not to directly confirm its tied to agony, remnant, and the ghosts of everyone murdered by or in relation to either William Afton or Fazbear Entertainment? Also in relation to the other thing mentioned in this comment thread: Oswald in the game wasn't the one who drew the animatronics. In the game it very explicitly retcons this to something Oswald was given by the granddaughter of an ex-Freddy Fazbear's employee who made notes about about the animatronics, drew them, and made notes hinting at what was going on leading up to the MCI murder.

[@phoneguy4637]

@@theforgottenscribe bs. I only take what book and game provide. and what they don't provide is a clear answer to my question.

[@Bruhmanofyear2]

​@@phoneguy4637if you can't make basic connections you might be dum....

[@bait1021]

Alternate theory: the *Into the Pit* video game, as a whole, is Oswald's Ball Pit Remnant. The actual Oswald encountered the Ball Pit, but being a child, fell victim to the Yellow Rabbit before he could understand what was going on. The 1-Star ending depicts his actual death, that his spirit is forced to relive in his Ball Pit Remnant. We, the player, can change the ending so that Oswald is happier, and the Stitchwraith can be seen outside Oswald's bedroom window. Hence, the 3-Star ending would be Oswald's ball turning golden and transparent.

[@mell_zoller2655]

I guess only when the interactive novel Into the Pit comes out, we'll know if Oswald officially managed to survive or if he was killed by the yellow rabbit and his soul is still trapped in the ball pit

[@bait1021]

​@@mell_zoller2655 Even assuming the novel version of Oswald survives the Pit, that doesn't discount the possibility of the game version dying instead. We've seen book versions of characters having different fates to their game versions in the past, after all. You shouldn't use the books to confirm or deny theories about the games, they should only be used to supplement the lore, to add context.

[@truegamer7760]

But the balls turn clear when the soul is happy.

[@bait1021]

@@truegamer7760 Yes, I said that? Was I not very clear?

[@truegamer7760]

@@bait1021 Oh sorry, didn't see the transparent part.

[@eoin1272]

Holy shit that's a great thumbnail

[@RyeToast]

BarBADroid killed it as always!

[@lordcanti]

*drops everything and watches

[@nderdragon7]

I think the reason why William’s agony is in the suit is because, likely due to one of the many reasons he murdered the children was his own suffering and pain, and likely he used the suit as a escape to grieve, until his grief bubbled into murderous intent

[@jaydagreen1775]

i really hope more fnaf games like ITP get made!!!

[@RyeToast]

Me too! Scott said he wants them to do Fetch and the teases in game make it sound like the team does too!

[@jaydagreen1775]

YES!! 🎉🎉

[@Bruhmanofyear2]

Fetch, Plushtrap Chaser, Coming Home, Get Closer (i think that's the Foxy one?), Bunny Call and Blackbird could make good games or even Breaking Wheel for a gorey horror game

[@kingender4872]

Fun fact, the reason why it flips out because of the photo is because you accidentally knock it out of its hand would’ve had just continued to stand there, staring at it, but while you’re dragging it down your father, you knock it out of its hand angering it.

[@Claudia-wg8pe]

Omg you're so right

[@grantdaily9662]

This honestly makes alot more sense than the whole "We are literally timetraveling" thing. Like if we were time traveling why wouldnt we be witnessing things after the murders? Why would the Yellow Rabbit get weaker when we free a kid? Why arent the kids showing up as adults in Oswalds' present day to lend their thanks by the end of the game? But with your theory on how this all works, those questions get answered and all we are left with is "How does this game fit into and bridge the continuity of the games"

[@homerman76]

The only thing I have to wonder is how to explain the things from the past brought to the present; the rat and the arcade parts; and the firecracker Oswald uses in the "past." These points don't necessarily kill the theory, they just create a conundrum because it's a bit of a cop-out to claim they're also just hallucinations.

[@grantdaily9662]

@@homerman76 I don't think they're also part of the illusion, personally. Cause with the agony in the pit, it's strong enough to make the location from the memories more physical in nature. It's like how you can get the William/Henry photo or the tradable stuff for the firework, it's like a little pocketverse that's both their but not there

[@AntiKaiMatic]

No it doesnt because oswald is literally travelling into the past and bringing in stuff tgat affect the future.

[@grantdaily9662]

@@AntiKaiMatic except we see nothing change like time travel would imply. No kids as adults wanting to help Oswald, none of the investigation after the murders and before Fazbear cover up and the rabbit gets weaker when we fee a kid. That's how time travel would work if this is time travel

[@nathanlorance5192]

Bc they are so horrified they ran and never looked back. Also, they would not be aware that Oswald would be time traveling. How would they? we literally see kids assuming that he is new in town.

[@helenagustafsson3653]

Something I think is worth mentioning in the 3-star ending, is how apparently the entire, Pizza Hut is fully functional and full of people, to me it screams that by clearing out the minigames, and such you eradicate the Agony from the ball pit, you allow the town to prosper, and the town never gets abandoned. This to me screams that it can at least affect the past, and is likely actual time travel. Another thing that is worth mentioning is that the design for the Stitchwraith in the game lacks a battery. Whether that is just a design choice or a piece of lore is up for debate. Great video!

[@homerman76]

Not to mention the items you bring back from the past (the arcade parts and the rat,) that have a relevant effect on the present

[@ImmortalAbsol]

I think it's an agony manifestion that is centred on the ball pit but effects the whole building. I think PitBonnie is similar to Shadow Freddy, RWQ and The Tangle. The photo giving him a bit of an existential crisis because he feels like he's William but is faced with the realisation he isn't.

[@skrub_king]

27:53 my Toast voice headcanon

[@andresvaldez5001]

"He'll be a little thicker so he can sit properly" Hmm Thicker in what way Rye? 😂

[@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster]

Before this starts,here’s my main beliefs. It’s actually time travel. It has to be. There’s things like the paper plate pal that we put down in the past and appears in the future and we remove the mallet in the past and it’s head is gone in the future,as well as time travel rat. However,the biggest evidence is that the doors break in the past and they’re gone in the future. Not broken in the future,gone. And Jeff doesn’t notice. This implies the doors were found broken and then removed but never replaced,meaning the timeline actually changed so it HAS to be time travel. Pit Bonnie clearly has Afton’s consciousness as one voice line literally has it say “I always come back” and it’s whole freak out when it sees the picture of Afton and Henry. It also says “You will suffer as I have suffered”,which implies Afton had suffered by the time this thing was created. It’s also clearly made of agony (agony goop coming from eyes) so I’m inclined to think Afton filled a suit with agony and maybe even his own remnant and then set it loose on people. Finally,I think book references are telling us that these characters exist in the game continuity (I’ve seen no good argument it’s not in the game continuity except it being based on a book,which I don’t feel is a convincing argument) but are different. My evidence? Count the ways. Bon Bon wasn’t in that story,I remember people talking about it, but we see Bon Bon on F.Freddy’s arm in the minigame. So Millie is canon but she was likely a victim of Baby’s rentals,not her granddad fixing an old animatronic. Similar but different. Also,the agony goo around the foot of the Children at play sign (and it is agony goo,it’s the same colour) is just the agony generated at schools (in other words,just an Easter egg)

[@jan_harald]

good theory, but why not both? ;P it's highly likely to be at least partially just memory manipulation, simply due to the fact that oswald's dad is kept alive, without him being a major character in any way, why does the rabbit kill everyone, EXCEPT the dad who is just...tied up? however, I think that the actions in the "past" do have a physical effect on the "current" time, too, like echoes, or ripples, like, it's not necessarily that jeff's missing doors were actually torn down in the past, it could just be an effect that they e.g. fall off in the current day and jeff isn't THAT lazy as to leave the doors on the floor, so he just throws them in the trash or something it could just be wholly the memory and agony stuff, too, of course

[@misskittielafay]

Random thing I noticed that nobody seems to have mentioned at all, even though Idk what the implications could be: The soda and a slice deal advertized on the sign at Jeff's front counter changes from being "$1.50, just like it's always been" previous to going into the ballpit, to "$3.50, just like its always been" when we go back to Jeff's on Night 1.

[@SMARTBoardSBMInchInteractiveWh]

Inflation is canon to fnaf lore I guess

[@BongusDripVR]

0:01 Kitty 😀

[@hiimdarius]

thank you, pin worthy

[@robojelly8018]

Yes sir

[@mannyegarica12]

22:50 Oswald and his cat are the only one who knows that his dad isn't really his dad throughout the original story and in the game

[@blizzarr1296]

At 22:50 when he said" Or if I touch someone I can make them see something but only the person I touched" , not so perfect phenomena backing this (but debateable) is when Jinx hisses at the Yellow rabbit. I think since Oswald was so exposed to the remenant/agony in the pit, after petting jinx, he tranfered some of that to the Jinx, also allowing her to see the true nature of the rabbit just like how Oswald hulluscinates. I dont remember well if Oswald gave his mom a hug or something, but the reason why maybe she doesnt see that even after their contact is maybe because it was not enough to effect her. Jinx is a small cat and well his mom is way bigger so you might need a bigger dose of remenant/agony to effect someone. That can also maybe explain why the hallucinations kept on getting worse because Oswald keeps dipping himself in a huge pool of that stuff everynight

[@aimredinez]

The screwdriver also comes from the past and is used to escape Oswald's house

[@vizzzyy190]

edit: posted this comment before watching the full video. glad to see we were on similar tracks! heres my into the pit theory i came up with the other day: so while there is some time travel involved for sure (with the whole rat thing and a few other things that you mention), i think it sticks closer to the "ball pit is filled with remnant/agony memories" than anything else. i think its somewhat similar to the happiest day minigames. you go through these "5 nights" at the pizzeria, helping 5 different kids escape/not die. when you finally get to the party room, where you saw the bodies at the beginning, theres nothing there. no stains or anything. because oswald changed the memories of these kids allowing them to pass on. just like happiest day. now theres one big issue. there are 6 children in that cutscene, and you only help 5. perhaps just like in the main series, one of the spirits cannot be helped. it also makes sense with the endings. with the 3 star being the only outright happy one, because you have to play the minigames. just like in fnaf 3 with happiest day.

[@Tricky22875]

On the subject of why “William” possesses the suit in the game before he dies in it, I have a personal theory. Assuming the motive of William Afton’s Murders is the grief of his lost children (either Elizabeth or CC) it could be the fact that the suit absorbs his Agony due to the fact that every time he commits a murder he’s reminded of the traumatic event that started it all. Just something I thought about while watching. I know this theory’s validity does depend on how you interpret the timeline but I think it works and it’s a simple yet effective explanation for why William’s Agony would be possessing the suit before he is springlocked. 😁

[@gamesuarx]

We're not assuming that William's motive is the grief of his dead children because we know for a fact that he didn't love them. Every single time he's portrayed as a father, he's abusive, manipulative and at best neglectful. Hell, he doesn't even HAVE these same children in the novels and the movie, nobody to grief- and he's still the exact same serial killer

[@Tricky22875]

All of these things can be true and yet in his twisted mind perceived as loving his kids. While I understand your point and where you’re coming from I would argue that William does love his kids in his twisted ways while abusing them. Otherwise why would he be upset about CC or Elizabeth’s deaths.

[@kardon673]

The thing that makes u see diffrent things in the books are called "sound illusion disks" and play a frequency of sound that overwhelms the listeners subconious to alter their perseption of what they expect to see. One of which was on the locket elinor gave. The yellow rabbit could have used a sound illusion disk or something similar to trick everyone around expect for Oswald, but the question then becomes why and how?

[@FNaF_Fan_4yd3n]

If Oswald only sees changes into the future because of his exposure to the ballpit, then why does jinx the cat know the yellow rabbit isn’t his dad. And if stuff from the past to the future don’t exist but only in Oswald’s mind, how does Jeff physically interact with the rat when hitting it with a broom? And I don’t think the yellow rabbit is a physical suit, I think it’s just a being made of agony who has a physical from, just like Eleanor

[@tenderlots2180]

Good theory

[@calebpetrillo6916]

Well into the pit seems like a way to explain what Glitch trap is while removing technology from the equation to simplify the explanation. In both cases we have a representation of William that while acting like him that isn’t actually William, Someone seeing past events while having the ability to change things, and that same entity being able to influence people outside of those recreations with eventual possession of those people shown in Help Wanted. Then in Ruin we see a different fake world seem to affect the real world in ways that have no real explanation, I.E. into the pit has the creation of a rat, the disappearance of the doors, while Ruin has teleportation, and phasing through objects.

[@Ozeglion]

I think the ballpit is almost definitely a memory realm of some sort, though the game does treat it pretty much exactly like time travel, which I can only assume is due to miscommunication between Megacat and Scott (which, Scott did say in the interview that Megacat did kind of just do their own thing for months at a time) Also I think souls, memories and emotions that stick around or *remain* even after the death of the person they originated from are all just different forms of remnant, so there’s that

[@TermiBS7791]

Theory: The balls in ball pit are reference to memory balls from inside out😂

[@RJDavePhin]

The way Rye described the balls in the ball pit immediately made me think of Inisde Out😅

[@maxon1712]

i think that the way the time travel or the ballpit works in the book works differently, i can ask why would a convoluted explanation be used when all marketing and the gameplay point to time travel? Scott leans into sci-fi and pays homage to time travel in “future of the flashback” and the entering a new world with wizard of oz

[@maxon1712]

I also have a pet peeve for when people say “this sets a president in this franchise” because it basically sujest it as something that can happen whenever in the series not necessarily in the general franchise itself stripping it from the context or character that can use certain powers , I think better wording could be “if we apply this to the game”

[@Idwinedits]

Then why is the rabbit able to jump out at Jeff in the present if the agony has melted out?

[@loganentertainment1814]

18:16, The voiceline where he states, “I will make you suffer just like I did” is interesting, because it makes you wonder what he is implying? 🤔🤷

[@JustaPetalyFanOk]

Ok, but how does Oswald cause that woman to also hallucinate the agony produced rat then? That stupid rat is a time traveler. There’s no way around it.

[@corpsefog]

agreed

[@arallia]

If agony can change an object's appearance, there's a chance the rat is just a ball from the ball pit with agony glamour

[@ythemc4070]

So does this mean Oswald was just blacked out in that gross ball pit for hours breathing in whatever spores and mold has been growing there for decades 🤢

[@berniebare371]

As weird as it is, I do think you can change memories and affect the timeline in FNaF. During the final battle with Eleanor, they end up on the train tracks from Blackbird. Eleanor ends up spinning Sam, the one in the blackbird costume, until he’s dizzy and leaves him in front of an oncoming train. Larson pushes him off the tracks into a ditch, where he breaks his leg. If we look at the story Blackbird, that’s exactly what happened to Sam- he fell in a ditch near train tracks and broke his leg. If it wasn’t for Larson pushing Sam off the tracks, he would’ve gotten hit, and the story of Blackbird would be different. Plus, changing memories (and the past) is what we do in the Happiest Day minigames for BV. That’s why the pieces of Happiest Day are represented by Clocks in FNaF World, we are CHANGING the past so that BV and the MCI can move on.

[@jacquelinejanewashere]

I've decided ITP is my favorite fnaf game

[@RyeToast]

Super based

[@VellyDior]

My thing is are the kids actually saved I expected to see the kids as adults when Oswald goes back to actually see change 4:51

[@AndieBoss]

Doesnt the ball pit balls have blood on them, and memories or some shit?

[@GreenEyeSkies]

Who is Oswald’s grandma?

[@RyeToast]

That really old one from Coco

[@Claudia-wg8pe]

Me

[@ParsnipGod]

Rye’s cat: oh boy they’re setting up the recording equipment, time to get pets! 😹

[@WAOF1_Toby]

Is there any evidence for a theory thinking Oswald to Foxy? He’s notably absent from the game and the hidden ending has him turn into a robot in front of Foxy’s stand. Would love to see you look into this more :)

[@whiterunguard1434]

Heres what I think. I think the ending where Os gets strapped in the chair is the real one, but it doesnt take place after the game. Its the initial memory for Oswald and hes really a spirit. Maybe William Afton is the only real one and he looks like he does because Oswald is remembering him with Agony or something. Maybe its Oz's Dad! I just dont think oswald is really there, sorry

[@marsbones398]

So are you implying that the oswald's dad version of the yellow rabbit (the one that exists in the games present) is never actually chasing us? Because oswald's father wouldn't kill him upon finding him outside his room or board up his windows after he uses them to escape. So what do you think those night sequences in the present actually are?

[@tenderlots2180]

I believe the yellow rabbit actually came out of the ball pit and kept Oswald's father trapped in the pit unconscious for days may be to feed on his agony before killing him

[@Water-Div]

Always great to see more Rye content

[@RyeToast]

Anytime (specifically everyday except thursday and saturday if you include streams)

[@nathanlorance5192]

The time travel debunk argument feels a little weak to me because the vision of all the other stuff is short and temporary. Why would the door be such a strong and vivid vision? If he really was hallucinating, would he not have the whole door wrecked and damaged with the glass still on the ground?

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

Great video! I agree with most of this, but I do disagree with the conclusion that it's Oswald's dad and Oswald is just hallucinating. In the final epilogues Larson can see through Eleanor's disguise when nobody else can because he's been touched by her evil, and in Hide & Seek and Alone Together we learn there are even people who are naturally more able to see the truth of the paranormal without that factor. To me personally, the explanation that he can just see through the illusion because he went into the pit feels simpler and more convincing than that it's switching between suit and dad whenever it enters the pit. I also don't think changes like the missing doors need to be hallucinations. We know that emotional energy is capable of messing with its surroundings from FNaF 1, the pit can just be projecting those changes into the real world. This also explains why the doorway is blocked off with the sign on Day 3 but not later days: it was newly broken and Jeff just hadn't cleaned up the hall yet.

[@alexthebluehermit]

26:35 Love the addition of portals rat man in the background

[@bittersine2356]

0:10 creamsicle kitty

[@Muttpup]

I woke up just in time it seems

[@RyeToast]

Good morning o7

[@Muttpup]

@@RyeToast Good morning! o/

[@Chester-q1d]

Much agreed! Each night we "save" each of the 5 children that were un-alived in the game. Helping each child move on until eventually Oz is able to leave

[@Trvwiggy]

One reason why I think it’s William Afton’s agony and that indeed he is dead is because of a couple of things. In the files one of the phrases he says is “I will make you suffer just like I did.” Sure you can make the argument that he was in pain and suffering before being spring locked permanently (I.E Silver Eyes) but another key thing to remember is that when the MCI kids possessed the animatronic suits, they were unable to move on because of the agony and pain they were caused UNTIL the happiest day minigame. It was only then when William died HE couldn’t move on because he was suffering for over 30 years. Not to mention the phone call in night five CONFIRMS William died by playing the secret death audio. We also find that Jeff took over fazbears and it’s as run down as ever but the remains of certain things gauges how long it has been. And it would be well beyond 30 or so years SINCE he died. Not to mention Pit Bonnie (yellow rabbit) hides Oswald’s dad in the safe room of Freddy fazbears. In said safe room you can find nods to William, the MOST important is the photo that gives you the two or three star ending. Which shows Henry and William. And after seeing it, he glitches for a second. If William Afton WASN’T dead by this time, and the MCI happened why would he glitch out after seeing Henry? He was on a killing spree out of spite and hate towards Henry after the killing of his Daughter. He only felt this way when he died, when he was burning in pizzeria sim, and when he’s being tortured by the one he should not have killed. If this suit is his agony and like you said is a memory, it’s going to show it in its UPMOST quality because of the agony AND remnant of William Afton.

[@rin2564]

Regarding the yellow rabbit. I believe the yellow rabbit is an agony manifestation of William Afton specifically from the childrens point of view. It also serves as a visual representation of Williams true nature. Assuming he knows about remnant and agony at this point its very likely he acted like an animal and violently chased them around before murdering them. The children aren’t able to comprehend that a human is inside the suit so all they see is a violent rabid animatronic monster chasing them.

[@captaincyoomin]

If Toast is a little thicker so it can stand up, does that make it Texas Toast?

[@aquadropuwu5190]

My pit theory is that the Freddy's might be in another "layer", FNaF World style. Like you get transported to another plane of existence that also interacts with the other layers, including the real world. It's something like what Theofftroop mentioned in Rye's podcast, he does a great job covering what might be the most interesting world building theory I've seen for FNaF.

[@WrathGD]

Maybe the reason aftons agony is in the suit is because of the bite of 83? Also there is that spring lock easteregg

[@theghostcreator776]

I like how the springbonnie suit when worn by Afton/as a monster is nowadays just called the Yellow Rabbit, real cool

[@mrhalfsaid1389]

I thought it was something like this, love that I'm not insane for thinking that the two ideas of Oswald's dad being only mentally afflicted around his son and that the ball pit is just the memories of the mci victims clinging on to Oswald to help them, even if only a little bit

[@legend-qr5qm]

My thought process is in the books he survived a soringlock failure once before so theoretically that suit could have had his agony from that failed springlock failure

[@Sivanot]

I feel like its highly likely that the Yellow Rabbit is primarily controlled by the agony of the MCI, and potentially anyone else killed while William wore Springbonnie. Its exactly like you say, its an animalistic, monstrous visage of how the children perceived William. It may also have some of William's own agony, considering its reaction to the strange photo, but definitely less than that of at least 6 children.

[@knockoffraccoon]

there are some questions people are not asking. Why did the rabbit take oz's dad to the ball pit room?

[@Jar.Jo.Binx96]

Possibly you have to pass through the ball pit to be effected by agony. Also the balls might be remnant meaning they could effect what you see

[@knockoffraccoon]

@@Jar.Jo.Binx96 well yes bro, but why does he want that?

[@Jar.Jo.Binx96]

@@knockoffraccoon this is just my speculation at this point but I would imagine he wants to do that so he can take possession of his dad completely. By doing that it would allow him to kill more

[@morgankundrick8289]

What about the cat oswald's family owns, Jynx? they can also tell that Oswald's dad isn't in his dad in the book and hisses at the yellow rabbit in the game and they probably haven't been into the pit before

[@kimberlyobrien3300]

Cats can sense when something isn't right. Smelling something off is enough to make animals nervous.

[@XMitrilXPL]

4:59 27:36 But it is a literal time travel? What about the ending where Oswald leaves through the main doors? It means that the outside exists.

[@mousemallow8297]

damn 46 seconds ago i was just watching one of your other videos what are the odds

[@RyeToast]

Welcome in!

[@SleepyQuack]

I like this theory because it explains what you can call your mother if you're not really in the past but how do you keep items from their memories like the screwdriver?

[@JoelTheParrot]

24:24 i like to imagine that whenever oswald goes through those doors, because he's hallucinating that they aren't there, he's just walking into them as if they're not there. during this time he's going to seem a little... off

[@GP22855]

Damn... Five hours late! Almost survived the Nightshift

[@JediWreith]

You loosely explain the doors, but what a bout the rat. It's not a hallucination of Oswald because it scares the woman. Your solution seems like it would suggest that perhaps he caught it in the present and only thought he was in the past at the time?

[@SkeldarkUmbras]

That’s about the jest I thought about when he explained this theory, but it’s a good question on if we capture the rat in the 1985 location is it just a gameplay element added or is it there to say we are actually time traveling. And in all fairness the woman did say she can hear one in the present day. Though being unable to catch the rat in the present and the missing doors in the present still have me convinced it’s time travel. But it’s not unlikely that it was just a game mechanic ill explaining it as a hallucination (ill explaining it as in it fails to drive home the point).

[@Sleeper_6875]

it’s a weak explanation but it possibly just crawled into the pit and he trapped it there while in the pit hallucination

[@Rayvincen]

I think the true ending is the one where Jeff (presumably) gets killed by Pit Bonnie. What if Pit Bonnie disguises himself as Jeff from that point forward, planning his revenge. I don't know much about Return To The Pit, but maybe it's what happens after the story, as the title suggests.

[@dingesthegreat3678]

mad appreciation for actually stopping to explain terms it makes the video much more palatable

[@hsfhanaa]

I think it should be acknowledged that one of the endings results in an assumed town save. It is implied that what happened at Freddy's caused a slow decline and caused a lot of people to leave (which may have resulted in the Mill shutting down). When you save the kids, theres little changes like the pizza combo going from 1.50 to 3.50 and the ending where everyone is in town and its full again

[@sleepylmguy9968]

Under one minute Gang! Assemble!

[@sneakysneaker6293]

💪

[@JackRabbit20]

Rutabega

[@RyeToast]

Based

[@knatspray]

I thought you said gamble instead of assemble… I almost got excited for a second there

[@darthtenebrous8750]

I feel like the paper plate dolls are the biggest proof that its genuine time travel: you place the Freddy paper plate doll in the past, it suddenly appears in Jeff's Pizzeria

[@auroraofclanborealis]

I think this is an amazing theory. Another thing that can support this is that the loading screen tips sometimes have references like, "You won't die, but you'll wish you would." which is from UCN, another game dealing with weird spirit memory things or, "the animtroic characters here get a bit quirky at night." which is paraphrasing something only Mike would've likely heard. So my guess is Into the Pit has something to do with the weird spirt/memory amalgamation that causes UCN and links everyone who died in the Pizzeria Sim fire.

[@Merchantic]

But why is it so bad that Oswald cant be home alone? But its fine for him to be at a rundown pizza place where Jeff doesnt really care what Oswald does?

[@theghostcreator776]

I mean... The glass door and the rat are pretty blatantly trying to convince the player that the ballpit is actual time travel unlike the book's pit Everything thats explicitly a vision Oswald sees is done in a flash, Oswald always gets at least flashes of whats really there. The glass door never returns to normal (until Jeff fixed up the place in 3 star?) It would personally take much more for me to be convinced that the pit in the game isn't actual time travel since the game explicitly trying to convince the player that the time travel is real only for it not to be would be really obtuse

[@SerunaXI]

It's a story where animatronics are powered by the negative energy of dead spirits. Time travel isn't too out there.

[@MathildeNightcore]

So, in that case, there would be two "Golden Bonnie" suits, right ? The one that William Afton end up dying in and possessing and the one in the ball pit filled with agony from the dead kids and William Afton ? Because, otherwise, I don't really understand how there can be a 'Yellow Rabbit" at Jeff's and Springtrap in a sealed room at what become Fazbear's Fright at the same time

[@MetaSynForYourSoul]

Just wanted to pop down here and say I'm proud of you Toast, my boy. I was here when you had subs in the 1,000's now look at you creeping up on a quarter mil. I love seeing Good genuine dudes succeed on here. Especially when u know I was part of the early days before they blew up. Keep up the great FNAF work my guy!!!

[@electricrampageOG]

When you follow spring bonnie into the larty room that IS the missing kids incident, think about it, it cant be after je was spring tapped because the spring trap suit was worn down iver years and years from being wet, moisture, rust, and moved around and used, there would be very visible scuff marks, if we were to look at it in any way, the conclusion becomes. That IS the missing kids incident

[@wsgimfloof]

I think that Afton IS dead by now. As mentioned, Pittrap says stuff Afton WOULD say. Not to mention; he full on repeats “I always come back” along with lines from Security Breach. Also, Pittrap’s insides are fleshy, resembling Springtrap, albeit not being withered. (As you mentioned, I think that it’s supposed to resemble how Afton appeared to the children. That’s why he’s not withered.) Also, there’s a full-on audio recording of the springlock failure in ITP.

[@elreydeva3006]

I am kind of spitball in here with the yellow rabbit speculation, but we already know that there are multiple interpretations of the yellow rabbit suit. We have the cloth suit that was shown to be glitchtrap. There is scraptrap and springtrap and burntrap. The idea of having multiple costumes has already been explored in the series so I feel like this isn’t too out there. I was thinking more along the lines that it’s either an entire suit that William constructed and messed around with agony at some point to just use agony on to see if it could come to life OR this is the same suit that was shown in FNAF that William helped another employee get in. The reason why I think this is if we look at the cheeks of the suit, they are exaggerated. But the strip on the top of the head I’m not sure about.

[@nyxcatcosplay9558]

this makes sense, honestly i get so confused whenever Remnant and Agony is mentioned, lol my brain just malfuncions and its like hearing a math problem back in school XD

[@malyckrentz9346]

12:40 This Guy: "I think you might be seeing the pieces come together now.." Me: ......nah man.

[@leen8430]

This is too precious. I come by and binge your channel every few weeks/ months, and just a few days ago I thought about your first plushie, and what a shame it is I can't get one. Looking forward to Toast!

[@nnaa111]

I'd say when Oswald is seeing things at school it's just his fear because he's scared and stuff, but even when I first saw it in the game it felt like it wouldn't be shown to us so much if it wasn't that important.

[@megafirebird22]

The reason the yellow rabbit dies is bc it's powered by the agony of the ballpit and it can't live outside of it for long. That's why he knocks out and drags oswald's dad inside of the ball pit so he's linked to oswald's dad. He needed to do this asap but with both outside of the ball pit he runs out of agony and dies. (I want to believe that Jeffs life is just filled with agony and that's why he powered back on in the ⭐ ⭐ ending)

[@tenderlots2180]

Good theory!

[@rohamcsigusz]

So this story is like Coraline? An evil power is hiding in a dilapidated place while people in that place dont know about it. Then a kid goes in a ball pit or through a tunnel to find a wonderful place and eventually finding the evil or figuring out her evil intentions, which turn that place into a nightmare. It also turns out that evil is powered by the spirits of dead children trapped in there. Our protagonist saves them and by doing so weakens that evil further. And in the end our protagonist saves their trapped parents or parent from that evil who is also assumed to run out of power.

[@rohamcsigusz]

ADHD pattern recognition goes BBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR