What's With The Moon? Moon-Sighting, Not Moon-Fighting | Dr. Shabir Ally

In this lively first episode of our Ramadan Ready series, join Dr. Shabir Ally and Dr. Safiyyah Ally as they explore the significance of the moon to Ramadan! The moon was used historically to measure time. Dr. Shabir talks about the controversies that arise when Muslims try to use the moon to determine the start and end of the month of Ramadan. He recommends we 'take a chill pill' because differences of opinion arise when matters are not so clearly defined. And Dr. Safiyyah advises that Muslims start Ramadan with moon-sighting, not moon-fighting.
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[@anonymous-dv1qr]

Interesting and informative talk. JazakAllah Khair.

[@SamSpeaks00]

My favorite Father-Daughter duo❤️

[@markdoughty8780]

More great clarification to ensure we're all Ramadan ready!

[@Downlead]

Alhamdulillah, LQS become the most widely watched Muslim TV show in Canada.

[@naturegirl4803]

Excellent understanding regarding so much emphasis on moon.

[@ahmfarooq1823]

Main question is not answered - whether moon sighting is needed in this modern time. Science is so progressed now that 1000 years calendar can be made in advance. Do we see the sun to pray nowadays? So why should we see the moon when we know when it will born?

[@bf6724]

The answer is very simple right in front of you. Because Allah said until you see, Allah did not say make the calculations.

[@usamawaked6388]

@@bf6724 Exactly! Why is that so hard to comprehend? There were very learned astronomers at the time of the prophet (pbuh), perhaps some of the best of the time and they could calculate the lunar phases very accurately, yet the prophet instructed to start and stop fasting according to the SIGHT of the actual moon, and he didn't command us to follow the predictions and calculations of the astronomers.

[@zeyadmaeen75]

The moon being a symbol of Islam has no origin in Islam. It was the Ottomans who took the star and the crescent as their symbol and they never claimed it is the symbol of Islam. With the advent of Islam, all idol worship was wiped out. The idea of the moon god dates back to the idol Hubal, worshiped by the ancient pagans of Arabia. In their Islamophobia campaign, the enemies of Islam alleged that the crescent moon became an Islamic symbol because of its connection to Hubal the moon god. Islam does not approve the use of any symbol. The only purpose of the moon in Islam is given in this verse: {They ask you concerning the new moons. Say: They are but times appointed for [the benefit of] men, and [for] the pilgrimage […]} (Al-Baqarah 2:189)

[@Hamza000h]

Jazakallah. Thank you for these insights

[@onotualiyuohindase155]

Jazakum Allah Khairan ❤

[@battleofyarmouk]

oh my God.. just follow a moon calendar which will predict a new moon & start your fasting. it's not that difficult. why do people gotta make it so difficult & complicated, especially since Quran says, we've made this religion easy/simple for you? it's really embarrassing how so many Muslims go out of their way to add confusion & complexity when there shouldn't be any.

[@ruru9886]

You have to do sighting by eye, without calculations or the use of sight enchaninng equipment like a telescope.

[@battleofyarmouk]

@@ruru9886 really? where does it say that in Qur'an? and if it doesn't & you say "well Qur'an doesn't have everything a Muslim needs" then reflect on what you're saying, basically Qur'an is incomplete/not definitive/leaves room to be filled/leaves room for doubt, which is shirk in of itself. I'm not gonna argue but Goodluck with that. I'm happy going strictly with the Qur'an.

[@razorio007]

Cloudy with a chance of Ramadan

[@mansoormattil1264]

Shahru Ramadanallthi unjila fiil Qura'n.... 👍 Welcome to Ramadan 🌹🌹🌹 ALLAHU Akber ✌️ Laillaha illAllah 💚🧡💙 Subhanallah 💪 AlhamdulillAh 👍

[@tripplejay9810]

my bad if this was answered already, but i was curious what anybody thought about if you’re too sick too fast and than maybe what you can do to still follow the quran in that case? thank you again for the show!

[@ML-jw8kf]

Fasting is not recommended if fasting will cause serious deterioration in your health. This is why fasting is exempted for pregnant women, children, frail old people, those with fluctuation insulin/sugar problems, and other serious ailments that require frequent medication. So for those otherwise healthy people that have fallen sick during the fasting month due to a temporary illness, they can compensate for it by fasting after Eid. Different scholars will give you different formulas as to what the compensation will be.

[@tripplejay9810]

@@ML-jw8kf thats really helpful, thank you

[@m.e.e2878]

Love the Showwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

[@peterhwang1860]

The question is why does the ultimate revelation for all mankind and all time forbid the use of a solar calendar in surah 9:36-37. The Romans enacted the Julian calendar in the 1st century BCE and the Persians had a solar calendar as early as 6th century BCE.

[@peterhwang1860]

Christianity has done away with animal sacrifices and moon festivals. It is compatible with modern pluralistic societies where the law applies to all.

[@zeyadmaeen75]

The moon being a symbol of Islam has no origin in Islam. It was the Ottomans who took the star and the crescent as their symbol and they never claimed it is the symbol of Islam. With the advent of Islam, all idol worship was wiped out. The idea of the moon god dates back to the idol Hubal, worshiped by the ancient pagans of Arabia. In their Islamophobia campaign, the enemies of Islam alleged that the crescent moon became an Islamic symbol because of its connection to Hubal the moon god. Islam does not approve the use of any symbol. The only purpose of the moon in Islam is given in this verse: {They ask you concerning the new moons. Say: They are but times appointed for [the benefit of] men, and [for] the pilgrimage […]} (Al-Baqarah 2:189)

[@rabih1978]

Notice the verses u quoted . And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, 👉if you (really) worship Him👈 👉But if they are too proud to do so),👈 👉then there are those who are with your Lord (angels) glorify Him night and day, and never are they tired. If u really worship him. It means they claimed they worshiped Allah but prostrated to the sun and the moon ,and those people were Arabs at the time of the prophet and this is clear from the verse after it "But if they are too proud to do so ....then ...... { وَمِنۡ ءَایَـٰتِهِ ٱلَّیۡلُ وَٱلنَّهَارُ وَٱلشَّمۡسُ وَٱلۡقَمَرُۚ لَا تَسۡجُدُوا۟ لِلشَّمۡسِ وَلَا لِلۡقَمَرِ وَٱسۡجُدُوا۟ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِی خَلَقَهُنَّ إِن كُنتُمۡ إِیَّاهُ تَعۡبُدُونَ (37) فَإِنِ ٱسۡتَكۡبَرُوا۟ فَٱلَّذِینَ عِندَ رَبِّكَ یُسَبِّحُونَ لَهُۥ بِٱلَّیۡلِ وَٱلنَّهَارِ وَهُمۡ لَا یَسۡـَٔمُونَ ۩ (38) } [Surah Fussilat: 37-38]

[@mansoormattil1264]

Assalamu alaikkum varahmathullhi va barakathuhu 🌹🤝🌹 JazakallAllahu khair 🤲🤲🤲

[@rabih1978]

@@mansoormattil1264 u too brother may Allah open our hearts to the quran

[@salmo5841]

Controversy about the moon is not worth our short life time. I think this is based on ignorance because physical time is relative. That means it is not absolute. Time and the object moon in this case used to measure it's elapse differ from place to place on the globe. I understand that us as Muslims all want to move together simultaneously when it comes to the initation of Ramadan but in reality that's just not possible because we are in different physical times and occupy different places in this orbiting planet.

[@samg8280]

Lol...everyone needs to take a chill pill

[@khancan2194]

Fast every ‘month /moon ‘ harrier you can , 1/2/3/4/5 whatever you are able to If you can’t and are unable to make up for it , then feed a poor person Don’t get caught up with the contradictory Hadiths trying To make their own religion

[@zahi5188]

be more specific. The moon sighting and start fasting when you see the moon comand doesn’t mean it should be done with the naked eye. If the latest technology were available in the past of the time of prophet he would have suggested us to see ramadan app or use hubble telescope or any other technogy to determine the start of the ramadan and end of it. Sadly he prescribe us with the best technology he had in that time. So basically what we need to do is to check moon based on our locality and use the Technology. We use technology everyday for salat why not ramadan? Muslims are becoming laughing stock because of these sort things.

[@afsarbmahmud]

Assalamu alaikum. Muslims are not becoming laughing stock because of this. You have to look at this holistically. All communities may not have apps. Apps may use different methods to calculate the time. There may be remote places where apps do not work. In all circumstances, sighting the moon is the easiest approach. Muslims may be laughed at because the people of science and technology find it laughable that the moon had been split, or the prophet (PBUH) went on a night journey. But if you seriously analyse them in light of science and technology, there is no logical reason for Muslims to be laughed at. Watch the channels *Thought Adventure Podcast* or *The Muslim Metaphysician*. No atheist/science folks laugh at them.

[@zeyadmaeen75]

The moon being a symbol of Islam has no origin in Islam. It was the Ottomans who took the star and the crescent as their symbol and they never claimed it is the symbol of Islam. With the advent of Islam, all idol worship was wiped out. The idea of the moon god dates back to the idol Hubal, worshiped by the ancient pagans of Arabia. In their Islamophobia campaign, the enemies of Islam alleged that the crescent moon became an Islamic symbol because of its connection to Hubal the moon god. Islam does not approve the use of any symbol. The only purpose of the moon in Islam is given in this verse: {They ask you concerning the new moons. Say: They are but times appointed for [the benefit of] men, and [for] the pilgrimage […]} (Al-Baqarah 2:189)

[@retrotemp]

The Moon has a reflection of Earth, the true Map of the World is on the Moon

[@osamajavaid4805]

This guy didn’t answer the main questions and kept repeating the same answers about moon being lunar calendar and shows months etc. The Hadith is clear that you have to start and stop fasting when you see the moon by your naked eye or through telescope binoculars which satisfies the seeing condition. If it’s cloudy then you keep fasting until 30 days which is clearly mention in the hadith. Neither astronomy science B.S nor following Saudi is acceptable. Islam is about simplicity and astronomy was never allowed even in the time of Prophet SAW. Following Saudi is illogical since they are in East with a different time zone way far apart. If you have to follow Saudi in moon sighting then why don’t follow prayer timings according to Saudi? You can’t follow your local mosque either since they are in no authority to make that decision as we live in a non muslim country. You have to sight the moon no matter what or follow the hilal committee in your region who is satisfying the sighting requirement. This so called imam is misguiding on several issues. Moon sighting is one of them.

[@Natalie-fj7fs]

Take a chill pill and eat when the sun sets

[@osamajavaid4805]

@@Natalie-fj7fs i’m chill, i wouldn’t be speaking for others in the Hereafter if somebody is not following the guidelines correctly. That imam is simply dodging the question and avoiding the elaborated explanation. Certain things in islam are required to be followed strictly rather than taking a chill pill. That’s the reason why muslim community in the West is segregated into a number of organizations by just being chill and following whatever they think is best and easier. Basically fatwa shopping for their ease. Any rational person will understand the true hadith and what I explained above. May Allah give us hidaya and guide us all.

[@shihabudheenk7046]

If July 31 is a Friday in Saudi Arabia, then July 31 in the United States will be Friday, although there is a time difference; Similarly, If the date of Dhū al-Ḥijjah 10 is 'Yawm al-Jumu‘ah' in Saudi Arabia, then Dhū al-Ḥijjah 10 will be Yawm al-Jumu‘ah in the United States, despite the time difference. This means that even though Americans fall asleep during Friday prayers in Saudi Arabia, they still pray Friday prayers on the same day. Only one day can be marked against a date in the calendar, and it would be unreasonable and impractical to use a calendar that shows one day in the US and another day in Saudi Arabia towards a date. The question that many ask is, whether to fast on the day of Arafat or on the 9th day of Dhū al-Ḥijjah. The question itself is unfounded because the day of Dhū al-Ḥijjah 9 in US should not be different from the day of Dhū al-Ḥijjah 9 in Saudi Arabia.

[@bjonphillips1135]

Please reply Mr. Ally. J Smith is saying that Mecca did not exist in Mohammeds time. There is no evidence of such place.

[@zeyadmaeen75]

It existed before his time💀 because Abraham and Ishmael are the ones who built it. There is evidence, just check some of the reliable sources from IIC or such.

[@rassb3427]

But the problem is Jumuah is not connected in moon sigthing it is connected in Gregorian calendar...nowhere in Islamic scripture that jumuah connected in the counting from New Moon sighting...so the jumuah is derived from early christian pagan months.Inshort Jumuah of friday is not a holy day for all Muslims who have follows in Moon sighting .the Jumuah in quran is not literally connected in gregorian calendar as what we called it seven days a week as Muslims observed Friday as Holy day.

[@anwarbukhari6178]

Moonth

[@fidelcatsro6948]

🐱👍🏿

[@Ayankrish]

🌙MOOD god with 72 hoors

[@MasibuleleJongamaYeka-hh2sl]

These are pagans worshippers , in the name of Jesus i pray

[@temporaryaccount5307]

That’s easy. The moon is what and who u worship: Hubal the moon god. Do u homework and you’ll see for urself.

[@zeyadmaeen75]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@zeyadmaeen75]

The moon being a symbol of Islam has no origin in Islam. It was the Ottomans who took the star and the crescent as their symbol and they never claimed it is the symbol of Islam. With the advent of Islam, all idol worship was wiped out. The idea of the moon god dates back to the idol Hubal, worshiped by the ancient pagans of Arabia. In their Islamophobia campaign, the enemies of Islam alleged that the crescent moon became an Islamic symbol because of its connection to Hubal the moon god. Islam does not approve the use of any symbol. The only purpose of the moon in Islam is given in this verse: {They ask you concerning the new moons. Say: They are but times appointed for [the benefit of] men, and [for] the pilgrimage […]} (Al-Baqarah 2:189)

[@zeyadmaeen75]

Do your HW ya zingy.

[@temporaryaccount5307]

@@zeyadmaeen75 and yet Islam borrows its history from pagan Arabs to have any at all. And doesn’t every mosque and Muslim country flag have a moon? Doesn’t ur Ramadan start and end w the moon? Wasn’t Mohammed’s only miracle (that came centuries after he died) splitting the moon? Deny all u want. Doesn’t make it true.

[@saeed319]

We might not worship the Moon, but the Moon was worshipped by our predecessors. And they would look for the moon to start/end their activities. Muslims today have carried on the same ritual.

[@Hamza000h]

If you say so

[@saeed319]

@@Hamza000h What an intelligent reply. You must be a very religious muslim?

[@omerali2690]

@@saeed319 Yes, Islam did not invent the new rituals. Whatever rituals were already there, Islam continued most of those, however Islam did teach that muslims should perform those rituals for ONE TRUE GOD and not for the creation.

[@usamawaked6388]

Do you even realize that many of those rituals were part of the religion of Abraham (pbuh) which Muhammad (pbuh) reestablished? Some rituals were original to the true Abrahamic faith and some were pagan insertions, and Muhammad (pbuh) forbid the pagan rituals and left the true ones. Even some of the original rituals were hijacked by the pagans making their offerings to their idols, that doesn't make the rituals per se bad, it just means they are performing said rituals to the wrong deity.

[@saeed319]

@@usamawaked6388 You make many faith claims which cannot be proven either way. You cannot even prove Abraham existed!

[@jinxUKBK]

What happened to his beard