What Settings ACTUALLY Help CPUs In Tarkov!.. | CPU-Bound FPS Testing in EFT 0.13.5

[@klemintime1452]

Thanks for watching lads. The MIP Streaming & Bottleneck videos will be linked here if you were interested in it from the video and let me know if there are other settings you'd like to see tested! :) Bottleneck video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZDamqiZnZxroZI MIP Streaming Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqrKooKsZalmaZo

[@picklechin2716]

Why are you saying that we should have auto ram cleaner on if we're low on ram. You know damn well it doesn't work unless you're in the settings. Have they fixed that?

[@klemintime1452]

@@picklechin2716 It isn't actively doing anything when you are in the raid, but it conisitent scores several GB lower in RAM usage total when you have it on vs off. Its not actively cleaning, but total RAM usage is still 2-4 GB less.

[@picklechin2716]

@@klemintime1452 ight

[@P3rad0X]

I think BSG should prioritize game optimization's rather then pushing content for the next bit. This is the reason I stopped playing when streets got released. Having 100+ fps on customs then getting 30-60 fps on streets ruins the experience for me

[@seeineyemonson5525]

Yeah. Streets and lighthouse are dope. But they'd be a lot cooler if we could play them seamlessly with bare rigs, say i5-9400f and gtx1660 6gb. Just asking, on the behalf of a friend 😅

[@GerardButIer]

They won’t. They want to move on from eft base game. They’re rushing out expansions so they can move on to the next game & arena

[@tiredpoison5784]

This is constantly brought up but an important thing to distinguish about game development is they can’t just “prioritize” and shift all of the development power. The developers are specialized in specific areas of development and a 3D modeler can’t sit on his hands and get paid for nothing while the programmers try and optimize the game. It’s also not as easy to hire new programmers because they need to familiarize themselves with the game. 80% of Tarkovs problems are with the Unity Engine itself tbh and hopefully this next upgrade with major rewrites (basically what you’re asking for in this post and been a long time coming) fixes these issues

[@Mr.VinceSir]

I really doubt theyll seriously start working on optimization anytime soon, everytime he's asked about it nikita just shrugs it off

[@birbdad1842]

@@GerardButIer I don't understand that reasoning whatsoever lmao.

[@mtnation2923]

Haven't finsihed watching the video but read the description. A comprehensive guide on what settings you should enable for MAXIMUM GPU utilization would be great!

[@JohnmillerPowerlifting]

also thanks for the videos, they are teaching me quite a bit about how it all works in the back ground

[@Weeho_]

Imagine a day tarky was optimized officially. Imagine the day it had sophisticated AI i.e. gta or red dead. Imagine the day the audio was soooo immersive when you heard a sound you actually knew the area it came from. Fuck the cheater hype or even the gross inertia we still deal with (which if it has to stay it should only effect those who are overweight) but seriously if we could have the game as is with the maps as is and it just be less frusterating to run on your rig, less frusterating to hear, man hell I'd even still settle with all the odd recoil, plus all the cheaters and inertia we got now as stated before. Gimme gimme smooooth operation xoxo. P.s. thanks for vid I'll give some setting changes a go.

[@IlsuemOkosch196]

It would be nice if object Level Of Detail actually would be what it says, but, if you turn it on 2, you actually can notice a lot of objects popping in, not even getting rendered at all. It happened to me a few times, when I ways playing on 2, that I was trying to shoot, lets say, a scav, and I was wondering why he doesn't die or even get hit. Well, turned out there was a solid metal wall barricade on the roof in Reserve, which I couldn't see at all. I mean, yeah, it gives a good perfomance boost turning it on 2, but bro, if I can't even see 50% of the objects, that's bullshit. And no, it's not because of my VRAM or whatever you guys try to come up with, tarkov is just still really bad in those things, lets be honest.

[@killerbas40]

The upside which is also a downside is that you basically have esp when the wall doesnt render, if you know the map you get free info. If you play for immersion it full on sucks though

[@krumz90]

The thing that bothers me so much about the CPU bottlenecking is that before the game updated to Unity 2019... I didn't have an issue. It ran pretty great, even on Reserve which was at the time the most demanding map... and I have a fucking Ryzen 5 2600... Not exactly an amazing CPU. It's gotten better since then but it has never ran as amazing as it used to. I realize the game has got bigger but I don't understand why THAT update in particular is what made things go from amazing to rock bottom.

[@SauceyCos]

ive finally found someone else that has had the same issue with me. I used to get such nice frames until unity 2019... I thought i was super delusional because i used to avg about 90-120ish fps anywhere and any weather and importantly, ANY SCOPE. For the longest i thought i was just crazy but i forgot they updated to unity 2019. at the time reserve felt like shit playing (roughly 60-80) compared to my 90+ on other maps. lord do i regret thinking that was bad lmao. they had a nice mid patch when streets was released i was avging like 50-60 on streets which felt nice, then they did another update and now i can never pass 50. ryzen 3600 and 1080 gpu, it gets depressing playing streets because it looks so fun.

[@krumz90]

@@SauceyCos For whatever reason, this new wipe is the best it's run for me since. It's still not as good as it used to be, but it's mostly playable now. Occasional stutter or slight FPS drop and that's all. I have no idea why.

[@SauceyCos]

@@krumz90 yeah every map runs great now for me BUT streets. lighthouse gets funky at times if multiple machine gunners popping off at once but game overall seems in a great place. Streets is just a nightmare but for some ODD reason, running 2x resammpler (essentially forcing my GPU to go 100%) made streets run better for me and i never understood it.

[@krumz90]

@@SauceyCos I can't run streets or lighthouse for the life of me. Every other map I can, albeit some better than others. The only one that's absolutely flawless for me is Factory. The new map runs great for me though. I'm gonna try the 2x trick and see if it helps me

[@SauceyCos]

@@krumz90 im just waiting to upgrade my CPU and be happy and move on with my day for tarkov. people told me im crazy for wanting to upgrade the CPU just for tarkov but i told them, its my main game, why would i want to continue being miserable on a game i play the most lol

[@GallusAnonymus94]

i7 9700k 5.0ghz 8/8, 32gb RAM 3600mhz CL16, RTX 2080 Asus Strix OC 8gb. Will your settings help me? Are shadows CPU or GPU bound? Should I put them on low or high? What should I do especially for Streets of Tarkov?

[@bean1829]

I've got a similar build, what average fps do you get on streets and other maps?

[@GallusAnonymus94]

@@bean1829 40 - 90 fps. 40 especially inside few buldings where is a lot of clutter and items.

[@Goobstank]

W edits/vids very detailed and precise

[@FiToScH]

Hey man, great video as always. I would like to provide constructive criticism: I do not like these barcharts, as what visually appears to be double the frames, in reality is a ~4fps difference. It is very misleading in my opinion, and while it is true that I can and did interpret the data written, it is still very unintuitive (to me at least). Edit: I forgot to provide my idea of a fix: simply graph everything from 0.

[@klemintime1452]

I agree. I was unsure whether to start from 0 solely because I've had people commenting that its hard for them to read that information when its so close together on mobile/smaller screens. That's also why I put the actual number label on each of the bars (to try and mitigate this), but I may end up scrapping that idea in favor of your call with that. Thanks for the advice :)

[@Nykot]

Im not sure if you want to try this, but i've decided to overclock my ram and got some nice results, lower latency its what Tarkov likes the most, so i was running a very high latency setting because of mixed ram kits (i had 2x 8Gb + 2x 16gb) running at 3200mhz (from 2400mhz) at 22 CAS, thats high but was the most stable i could get from mixing them, decided to ditch the 2x 8GB and see what i could get from those 2x16 alone, got my CAS lower as 16, the result was REALLY nice! My avarage fps went from 40-50s to consistent 60~ on the lows and up to 80s on Streets! I wish i had a DDR5 kit to check if all that bandwith and high CAS impacts on Tarkov but i still runing a 3800x + 2070!

[@checkybox]

also don't forget that manual tuning of ram subtimings will (on paper) help reducing stutters in tarkov significantly

[@Mithaldu]

for overall visibility and lod you should actually get a buddy and do some testing on woods, which settings allow you to see them in the sawmill camp from sniper rock without scoping in, or aiming from the green smoke extract towards sawmill beach in the past i found that lod 3 was necessary to see other players at that distance at all

[@klemintime1452]

shhhhh don't leak my next video

[@inreisen]

Object LOD on 2 basically makes you see other players up to 200 meters maximum. I tested this in offline raid with scavs and using rangefinder. I was looking up to Sniper Scav on Sniper Rock in Woods. When you increase your object lod quality to 2.5, then the distance which you can see other “living entities” is 250m. In 3, it’ll be 300m. Maximum of 400m at LOD 4. It’s a good advantage if you have a good CPU.

[@martkoers5379]

great video, hope to see your GPU-bound video soon.

[@klemintime1452]

I'll be hard at work o7

[@dbkams]

process lasso isnt crashing my system with a 5800x3d and 4090, HOWEVER it is causing my performance to get roughly 50% loss. Customs goes from a mostly 162 (locked through rivatuner) to 80-120 max. Disabling process lasso and having use physical cores off in game instantly gives me all my performance back.

[@MarcDiPe]

You saved a pc from going out the window with this comment! Huge increase on fps turning off process lasso and uncheking use only phisical cores ingame! Dont sleep on this guys

[@inreisen]

Wtf, I should try this! In the past everyone was saying about how good the Process Lasso is. Now it isn’t good anymore? I have 3080 i9-9900k(huge CPU bottleneck) so disabling Process Lasso will probably not change my fps that much but I’ll give it a try.

[@Lottaonair]

Hey Klem, thx alot for all the work. Whats about the shadow quality? I thought this impacts CPU load also a lot?

[@klemintime1452]

I tested this a lot before the most recent patch and I could not find any difference, but the amount of work that I did may lend itself more to another video. That's another one of those rumors that just completely doesn't make any sense lol

[@_Triple-B]

I got a (solid) mid game set up. For me the it does help to lower the shadow quality. Its not a massive difference but it adds up a little fps.

[@checkybox]

yeah, i'd like to know about shadow quality impact on fps too

[@ValorousDefined]

I selected it to use every core, even the virtual ones, in Process Lasso and it gave me more fps on a i7 3770k at 4.2ghz.

[@NickHMetal]

great video as always

[@OldManBadly]

My experiences with Tarkov now on 3 different systems (two different Ryzen based and one intel) is that the game is bound on neither GPU or CPU... it's bound on a total lack of optimization. The best way to improve Tarkov, in my experience, is to make sure that the game is stored on the fastest SSD you can afford, and make sure that all of your other drives are similar. If you have any spinning drives in your stack, or any external drives (like on USB) disable or remove them. The game seems to have some real issues with loading textures and page files and whatnot. My current game system is a 5800x, a 3080, and 64gig of fastest DDR4 RAM. The game stresses none of the key components, even when running 1440 mirrored down two paths. The GPU runs reasonably, the CPU runs reasonably, and the whole thing wanders along like nothing. No matter the setting, I cannot get the game to actually use enough resources to make it really matter. I record on a separate PC, but honestly, I could run it on the same one and it would not be an issue, that is how light Tarkov really is now.

[@klemintime1452]

You're 100% CPU bound there- and it will not show it. Whether it be an issue with CPU cache or individual thread performance, your 5800x will not be able to feed it quick enough. Tarkov DEFINITELY has issues with optimization, no doubt, but that is likely your issue.

[@OldManBadly]

@@klemintime1452 CPu isn't working hard at all... not pulling anywhere near max power. More likely to max the GPU out with post FX.

[@tiredpoison5784]

@@OldManBadly You're misunderstanding. I'm cpu bound a 5800X3D and even though tarkov is using my cpu to the best of its ability my overall utilization is 4% and temps are fine

[@OldManBadly]

@@tiredpoison5784 You are only truly bound if increasing the performance of the CPU would change the end result. That is not the case. Once you get past a certain point with Tarkov, it appears to just lie flat and doesn't go out of it's way to use either CPU or GPU.

[@kakkahaisee-dk1gm]

@@OldManBadly but thats tarkov, everytime you upgrade a cpu you gain over 20fps. theres not a too powerful cpu for the game

[@nivonis393]

Have you confirmed whether or not some of the settings will actually not change until you exit game completely and restart?

[@klemintime1452]

Binaural and Auto Ram Cleaner were ones that I did full restarts with- the other settings in this video were changing actively.

[@8bit-ascii]

i dont trust changing settings without a proper restart. BSG has proven countless time, that failing simple tasks isnt that hard to achieve when you program with blindfolds on

[@meuhtalgear]

Thank you for the rigorous testing. I play on an older cpu (Ryzen 7 2700) and cannot hit 60fps at all on streets. What I can't explain is that my GPU is not maxed out, and no single thread of my CPU is running at 100%. Would you have an explanation ?

[@klemintime1452]

My guess is that the CPU cache (along with memory bandwidth) limits the performance of your CPU's actual processing power. TLDR is that your CPU needs quick-to-access data for calculations, and having more of that cache allows it to perform operations quickly without having to swap out data within the cache for operation. Because it has to reach system RAM more frequently for information, it's likely lowering your system performance. I know that's a little weird to think about but that's at least my theory; I hope that helps :)

[@meuhtalgear]

@@klemintime1452 Thanks for your answer ! So in theory OCing the RAM would be beneficial... I'm not gonna do that but it's good to know nonetheless

[@MrPhantomRED]

Very good thank you for video

[@Rikitangoable]

I think I've found the secret sauce to fps in tarkov, but I need to do more CPU bound testing

[@snakeplays8889]

found sth? struggling cuz of m cpu as well

[@Ginkoman2]

what software did you use to display the top left statistics? msi afterburner?

[@klemintime1452]

Yep! MSI Afterburner with RTSS (which is bundled with it).

[@Quackz15]

Im looking to buy the game soon but wasnt sure how well it would run for me. I have a 3700x cpu 6750xt gpu 32gb ddr4 and a 1tb gen 3 ssd. What kinda performance should i be expecting? As there isnt any benchmark videos on the game with my cpu/gpu paring

[@klemintime1452]

You'll be able to play most maps fine, but it will be hurting when you get to larger maps that have more open space and also hurting in streets. Lucky for you though, you have access to the 5800x3d on your platform for a drop-in CPU upgrade if you feel like it. There are people who play the game on your CPU, but they do look to upgrade when they go to more CPU-bound maps. (expect 40-50 FPS on streets in intense areas.)

[@Quackz15]

@@klemintime1452 hoping to get the 5800x3d soon cuz i agree it would be a upgrade

[@rinsed7422]

thanks for this

[@HarrySim564]

thank you!!

[@killaclutch4208]

Thank you good sir

[@JohnmillerPowerlifting]

how do you know if your in a bottleneck or not? my cpu is at 30%(7900x) and gpu is about 50%(4090) when I am playing tarkov

[@klemintime1452]

I made a video about that which you can access here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZDamqiZnZxroZI But also, it seems to me like you are in a CPU-bound scenario with that, as (generally)

[@nivonis393]

I prefer to play the grassy wooded maps. And having LOD at 2 is major disadvantage for spotting players at long distance in those maps. If your standing on mountain in woods looking at old saw mill, and a player is at the end of old sawmill in the grass. You will not see them in the high grass at LOD 2 until they move into the road. At LOD 4 you will see them. That's a problem for me. Anisotropic filtering off or per texture actually gives me much better frames than LOD without causing inability to see players. And just a little tip here, lowering your shadows too much makes things flicker at the shadow edges. Making way more difficult to track movement. I won't lower shadows past medium for this reason.

[@inreisen]

If you use your scope you can always see other players. That’s why most of the players scan the areas with opened scopes. If you use your eyes and without scope, you can only see other players and bots up to 200m with object lod quality on 2, maximum of 400m on 4. I tested it myself on Woods with a rangefinder.

[@soupdeluxe]

Thank you! I wonder what RAM speed alone will do with your fps. Would you see an increase or do you only load the map faster?

[@klemintime1452]

I want to a video at some point testing a bunch of different RAM speeds and latencies, but I've never put in the time due to it likely not being a massive impact. (Also, I'd want to get a kit that could go to at least 3600 in DDR4 and then scale it to a bunch of common speeds). For now, pyurologie has a video comparing a bunch of different RAM Speeds on AM4, so I'd recommend checking that out :)

[@soupdeluxe]

@@klemintime1452 Thank you for the response. So far your video’s are very helpful, had some improvement. My 10700K is overclocked all core 5.2 ghz, Hyperthreading off. Paired with a RTX 2080 super and 2666 DDR overclocked to 3100. All on mobo SSD. At 1440p streets is around 50-65. Sometimes as low as 45. Not ideal, wondered if upgrading RAM would make a significant difference. Guess not, CPU upgrade is where its at!

[@soupdeluxe]

Quick update. Bought a second hand rig as an upgrade. AMD 5800x3d, 3600 DDR4, RTX 3080 (2k online raids). Paired with your recommended settings the performance is NUTS. Interchange almost constantly at 144 fps monitor limit. Streets 100-144 fps. You are probably aware of this but EFT loves the CPU L3 cache memory. Keep up the content, I’ll recommend your settings to all that play tarkov.

[@klemintime1452]

@@soupdeluxe Glad to hear the gains dude. That CPU absolutely crushes this game and thank you for the recommendations. Godspeed :)

[@odyx0]

God work klem😂❤

[@jeldrikhartmann531]

One important thing to mention about LOD: setting it to 4 also renders Player models from further away

[@philipphasenmaier1886]

Nope it doesn't. A the name indicates it's about objects. So anything from little clutter on the ground to some concrete pipes and stuff. But player and AI models are not affected by it in any way. That's why sometimes at long ranges you see someone shoot him and he doesn't die, thats because something not rendering in is in the way blocking the shot

[@jeldrikhartmann531]

Yes it does, there is a video where someone Tests it on Woods. Look up the video by Limxyy: how to Spot people in tarkov (settings and techniques)

[@jeldrikhartmann531]

Klemintime just posted a video on this

[@inreisen]

@@philipphasenmaier1886Yes it surely does. I tested it myself on Woods with a Rangefinder. Based on Object LOD Quality Level, you can see enemies and other “living entities” to 200m at 2, 250m at 2.5… 400m at 4.

[@FL_Cordis]

I usually have 40-60% use on GPU and 40% on CPU... what is my scenario? RTX 2060, R7 3700X, 16GB.

[@klemintime1452]

CPU Bottlenecked for sure. These settings should get you *minor* improvement depending on what you want to sacrifice.

[@DieTabbi]

Nice video explaining all the settings. I watched also your other videos (gpu/cpu bound) I use a 5900x oc and can say the "only use physical core" has none impact nor do process lasso. Its nots good with AMD today, so don´t use it. EFT need very fast singel core power. also most grapich settings have no impact to the CPU.

[@klemintime1452]

Very fast cores *and* a lot of available L2 and L3 cache is honestly the best way to go. Thats why I recommend AMD's x3d parts to so many people- they just do so well here.

[@DieTabbi]

@@klemintime1452 true. I would go for the 7800x3d but my rig is powerfull enough atm. I do lot other stuff beside gaming and the 5900x was a bargain this year for me. It is not so much slower. 😘

[@amd5518]

i have a 5700x and get like 20-30% cpu usage on streets and my friend has a newest gen ryzen 9 and gets like 10% cpu usage

[@ecstasy1412]

yea im starting to get tired of tarkov with the constant performance issue. i don't have a streamer pc, and i feel like im being punished for playing a new map

[@alexsalazar3507]

I haven't been able to play this wipe.... something is causing black screen and wiping firmware on gpu's. This has happened 3 times now. Just got new motherboard and cpu hoping this solves problem. EFT's getting expensive...

[@gjdriessen1]

I've heard that increasing graphic settings, thereby increasing load on GPU, could help in CPU bound scenario. Is this true. The reasoning is that the GPU would take more of the burden shifting load from CPU. Does anyone know about this?

[@klemintime1452]

That's a common misconception. Increasing load on the GPU doesn't "shift" any load from the CPU to the GPU, it just gives the GPU more work to do to sort of "stay in line" with the worktime of the CPU. You can think of it as two parts to an assembly line. If the CPU has 4 screws to screw in and the GPU only has to screw in 1 screw afterward, the GPU has time where it's just waiting on the CPU to finish so it can start working. If you instead give the CPU and GPU 4 screws to screw in, it will take them roughly the same amount of time to screw them in, ensuring that neither of them are sitting idle waiting for too long. Hope this helps! :D

[@gjdriessen1]

@@klemintime1452thx very clear explanation

[@Relics]

If you're on AMD couldn't you just disable SMT in the BIOS to force only physical cores?

[@mojojojo6292]

Multi threading is not the issue. Tarlovs biggest bottleneck is ram speed. It sees the biggest gains from fast memory and/or CPU cache. The 7800x3d is the best CPU for the game.

[@ElaBellll]

​@@mojojojo6292the next gen x3d cpus on am5 are better than the 7800x3d

[@CeceliPS3]

I installed Afterburn and tested Lighthouse and Streets. On both maps my game was well within my specs: 12 out of 16 GB of RAM and 9.7 out of 11 GB of VRAM. The problem is that while in every map the game uses the GPU at 99% like it's supposed to be, but on Streets it's on 50-68% and it freezes contantly showing that it's using only 2% when that happens. So... the game stops using the GPU!!! How is that possible? WTF 12700k + 1080ti + 16GB btw

[@gabagooblin5026]

because the game isnt very well optimized lol

[@ElaBellll]

Sounds like CPU bottlenecking. Basically the utilisation on the GPU goes down because it is waiting for the CPU to deliver it data to process

[@CeceliPS3]

@@ElaBellll how on earth would it be a CPU bottleneck when it's a freaking 12700k?? LOL

[@ElaBellll]

@@CeceliPS3 badly optimized code that can't run as fast as it needs to. Thus creating cpu bottlenecking.

[@CeceliPS3]

I see @@ElaBellll

[@mpl2398]

Switched to a 5800x 3d and a Rtx 4070… 140 Fps through all Maps no fiddling with settings anymore

[@mojojojo6292]

You ain't getting 140 fps on streets with that. Even the 7800x3d with ddr5 can't do that.

[@mpl2398]

Ok True forgot streets… 80-130 @ streets

[@warhokn4178]

I run this game smoothly with recording software with a i5-7600, so it should run on basically anything.

[@keefyfingers8574]

"smoothly"

[@X22Cherub]

your pretty much the onlyone i think will know wtf is going on with my game- it was runnin fine before the past update and now i am getting terible lag and my game crashes almost everytime i try loading in. when i run the debug menu in game it shows my download ping is fine aswell as my upload ping. the game update line however is constantly red and really high and im pretty sure that is causing the other problembs with the game. i myself do no know what the problem might be i have been messing with settings for like 3 days now and its not helping. i would love if you could tell me what you think the prob is- i usually can run the game at 100 plus fps and stream with my usual settings- i have a ryzen 5 and 3060ti 16gb ram if that helps any. and ill join the discord plzz help

[@klemintime1452]

Ask around in our tech-talk channel for tips, but my first guess would be an issue with available memory overflowing (maybe a page-file issue?). Other people will have other ideas there though. Also obv. make sure that you run verify game files and all of that to ensure everything is set.

[@chrisgaisek6478]

when u are online bots/people 2 of the cores get tanked to 90-99% the rest of the cpu just idle and thats why u get auto cpu bound :/.... bad coding?

[@johni85i63]

lod increases player model render distance

[@hunterheffley3166]

Bought a 7800xt. Now I'm def cpu bound....

[@Rxdriguezz]

U should buy 7800x3d/5800x3d instead of GPU:P

[@acid_rain_bow_xd9312]

Could you make a video on ram ?

[@klemintime1452]

For RAM usage in general in Tarkov or if any settings affect it? Maybe I could do a video on both...

[@acid_rain_bow_xd9312]

@@klemintime1452 what settings have the biggest affect but both would be awesome. Thank you for responding ☺️

[@kamikazee2239]

Literally just turn everything down and call it a day, the game is so unoptimized it can't even saturate a single core on a 5700x3D 😂

[@klemintime1452]

Memory bandwidth issue out the wazoo for sure

[@Bigmeltyhash]

I have 16gb of ram and autocleaner would cause my game to freeze and my ping would shoot up when i pause leading to possible lagout. I feel like its 2 issues in one cuz i turned off autocleaner stutters are gone but i still lag out when i press esc every once n awhile

[@ecojom8104]

increase mb limit before cleanup , 800mb or so max. don’t go below that otherwise u get the stutters

[@tiredpoison5784]

You cant change the ram cleanup afaik you're talking about mip@@ecojom8104

[@Timblesink]

"Only use physical cores" makes no difference to my FPS, but it DOES stop Tarkov from locking up my whole PC when it's loading/being a ridiculous lunatic. For example, when it finally 'hooks' into a game during matching, with only use physical cores off my entire PC would lock up for a couple of moments (it's a good PC), so whatever I'm doing on my second screen would freeze for a second. With it on, I can keep doing whatever on my second screen and be unaffected by Tarkov stuttering about like the decrepit behemoth it is.

[@klemintime1452]

I DIDNT REALIZE IT BUT I'VE HAD THIS TOO WHEN I LOAD IN AND THIS COULD BE IT. Im testing this and if this actually works I'm gonna be so happy- thanks lol. I could never figure out why i would just tank at the start.

[@HalIOfFamer]

So I am one of those unfortunates who are GPU limited. How to make my gpu not try to melt? So far my only solution was to limit my fps to about 80(have to change to 60 for streets) if I leave it on unlimited my card goes to 83 degrees C and throttles itself. Also it smells like cheap plastic because my broke ass bought a gigabyte card like a moron.

[@TheJamesboink]

1. Gigabyte == broke? I never had any problems with gigabyte products, hell - I only had great experiences so if its new I would instalty send it for a check. 2. FPS limit is always important since if for example your screen is 60HZ you won't even see more than 60 fps. Moreover it might actually give you screen tearing which looks awfull. Also, when FPS is unlimited youre throttling your entire PC since everythink is trying to work as much as it can 3. 83oC isn't really that bad of a temperature in generall unless you have very bad cooling. 4. Generally lower LOD's, Texture quality since in tarkov, at least to me, there is no difference between medium and high and honestly I can even play on low, also Anti-aliasing might hurt your pc, If you can have amd fidelity or DLSS then turn it on. 5. Check your settings in amd/nvidia panel and also power settings in widnows. Search in google to what values set these and it will help with any game and will be good for your pc.

[@HalIOfFamer]

@@TheJamesboink 1. It was the cheapest 3070, all the other ones were at least 50$ more expensive. 2. Yeah I have a 144 Hz screen and I use all 144Hz in other games, in Tarkov rarely anybody gets more than 100 fps anyway. 3. I have read it's like the limit the card can get itself to before it stops taking as much power to not cook itself. 4. Feared as much, already on low textures and shadows, but fortunately it doesn't impact visuals as much. DLSS is also on and playing in 2k(that is a requirement, I know I could drop it to HD but I can't see shit when set to that so this has to stay) 5. Will try doing that thanks.

[@Lottaonair]

I would recommend you to improve your airflow inside of your case by tweaking the fan curves or add more fans. My 3080 is constantly below 75 degree C. Also if not done yet, inform yourself how to undervolt your card with MSI AfterBurner, this will lower your temperatures also by 10-15 degree C, also you can create your custom fan curve in MSI AfterBurner for your card

[@TheJamesboink]

@@Lottaonair Undervolting may impact performance negatively afaik.

[@johni85i63]

also dlss uses cpu in itself I recommend just setting it to a lower resolution through actually changing the resolution for the tests it you do do them again unless you saying that was dum dum brain or you meant to say you would rather have us use dlss quality or other similar situations

[@mojojojo6292]

Dlss does not use CPU. It can increase the load on the CPU only when it results in higher frame rates from reduced GPU load in GPU bottlenecked situations. Of course higher frame rates increase load.

[@johni85i63]

@@mojojojo6292 I get lower framerates when I turn it on while cpu bottlenecked

[@mojojojo6292]

@@johni85i63 if you are CPU bottlenecked then of course dlss won't do anything. You should be using dlaa if you have GPU power to spare.

[@johni85i63]

@@mojojojo6292 looks better

[@mojojojo6292]

@@johni85i63 Aye it looks better with that on. You can combine dlss with it as well if you run into gpu bottleneck and it usually still looks better than native.

[@bobbyshmurdastoe8703]

What about for ram bottleneck 😂

[@trxntroll843]

Does anyone else have the problem where their CPU runs super hot when in raid. Hot enoght to continually crash the game? I have this problem. I seemed to fix it for a while but with the newest patch its back to running at 88 degrees or so when in raid only. was around 70 prior to this patch when in raid. I have 13900K and 4090 if that matters.

[@klemintime1452]

Is your cooling adequate? I'm assuming the increase in temps is from increased CPU load, resulting in more wattage and more heat.

[@trxntroll843]

@@klemintime1452 yeah I think so I have a 360mm liquid cooler with six fans on it sucking in air. The air that comes out the top of pc when when it says it’s running hot in raids is never hot or even warm.

[@dr.mailman]

I swear to god they have the fog offline on purpose. Almost every single time I tested in the past few days offline there was fog or really heavy snow. Go online and 9 raids out of 10 its clear and I can see for miles. Its unfortunate video games have never been able to change world settings when they were offline locally hosted. Getting the song of storms in orcarina of time was always the hardest part because I had to beg my parents to unplug the phone for the dial up connection wherever I needed to change the weather.