What the heck happened to the RV industry?

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Liz Amazing

Liz Amazing

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@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
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@TimothyMichaels
@TimothyMichaels 10 ай бұрын
Another great video Liz, thank you.
@dad45a
@dad45a 10 ай бұрын
With the increase in mergers and consolidations, in the last few years....corners and more had to be cut. Just service the $$$ spent to buy these other companies. There are only a few parent companies making RVs today, and the investor class gets paid first !
@huntsimple9527
@huntsimple9527 10 ай бұрын
Thankful you are taking a stand and hoping you stick with it. Your channel can influence these manufacturers!
@desertlandscapecreations577
@desertlandscapecreations577 10 ай бұрын
The problem with buying an older RV is that many RV parks won't let older models in.
@dad45a
@dad45a 10 ай бұрын
@@desertlandscapecreations577 What issues are leading RV parks to refuse entry? Perhaps a definition of what 'older' means. Liz seemed to be describing the recent differences from 2018 until present day models. Do parks have distinct time limit of how old a unit can be allowed to enter?
@alejofox10
@alejofox10 9 ай бұрын
I don’t know why I click on this vid but this lady give more useful information in 5 minutes that all the youtubers I seen all day… an am not even in the market for an RV😂
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 9 ай бұрын
Aww, thanks for your kind words, made my day!
@MindBodySoulOk
@MindBodySoulOk 9 ай бұрын
Parking for the night is as much or more than a good hotel in the good places so no real advantage to RVs
@butchmalone231
@butchmalone231 9 ай бұрын
I always heard RVs were sketchy at best but after listening to this young lady, I got more information on an RV and I’m not even looking for an RV😂
@austinward1543
@austinward1543 8 ай бұрын
@@LizAmazing THE RV INDUSTRY IS IN DEEP TROUBLE ALSO BECAUSE THEIR RVS ARE TO EXPENSIVE EVEN THOUGH THE RVS OF TODAY ARE GARBAGE
@andreagnauck4982
@andreagnauck4982 7 ай бұрын
same!
@JohnnyinMN
@JohnnyinMN 8 ай бұрын
This lady provides more information in 15 minutes than my MBA professors did in 2 years. Wow, and I am not even a RV person.
@BaBaYaga1999-p7u
@BaBaYaga1999-p7u 5 ай бұрын
😂
@patty109109
@patty109109 3 ай бұрын
If this is true, you have the worst MBA in history.
@kevinbaldwinemploymentattorney
@kevinbaldwinemploymentattorney 7 ай бұрын
My soon to be wife and I went to an RV show in January and we’re getting ready to spend $100k on a brand new Class C RV. This CHANGED EVERYTHING! I am now the proud owner of a well built well maintained low mile class C Dutchmen for less than $15k and with our interior remodel and upgrades which will include a solar package we will have everything for less than $20k but BETTER built! THANK YOU!!!!
@Bemaseated
@Bemaseated 6 ай бұрын
I’m following suit friend! Solar is important as well
@okthennone
@okthennone 6 ай бұрын
Good choice
@NotMe_NotMe
@NotMe_NotMe 5 ай бұрын
Any pre Warren Buffet trailer will be MUCH better. The RV industry was in trouble long before covid. Warren buffet bought up everything and started cost cutting and profit taking. Quality plummeted. Dealers are really pissed and suffering as garbage shows up on the lot and falls apart and the manufacturers (Warren’s companies) NO LONGER honor their warrantee work and expenses.
@hevinamber
@hevinamber 5 ай бұрын
That's freaking awesome 🎉
@lanapartin5459
@lanapartin5459 4 ай бұрын
Any suggestions on what year for a class C?
@bwalker4194
@bwalker4194 10 ай бұрын
The same thing that has happened to every other manual-labor-intensive industry since Covid: the very skilled, usually older workforce got fed up and left. The remaining management team quickly hired non-skilled labor to replace them and started cutting manufacturing corners to retain profitability. Those two things usually signal the death knell to every industry they touch.
@rondav41
@rondav41 10 ай бұрын
you would never buy an rv if you knew the people who built them
@cjhoward409
@cjhoward409 10 ай бұрын
@@rondav41 No doubt !
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 9 ай бұрын
they hired anyone who would actually show up a couple days a week. Most people don't want to work.
@jamesbailey9512
@jamesbailey9512 9 ай бұрын
@@adotintheshark4848 Correction most people don't want to work for the compensation package being offered. I like the company I work for, I like the team and I like and respect my manager and director. Most importantly the company pays me a good wage for my skills and time. At the end of the day however, it is a business transaction and I treat it as such. You owe the company you work for nothing, they owe you, usually monthly in arrears.
@DaveBassTrekker
@DaveBassTrekker 9 ай бұрын
I've lived in Elkhart county, Indiana for nearly 40 years. RVs may have been a better level of crap 20 years ago but they were still crap. Say what you want about workers but the problem STARTS with ownership. 2nd and 3rd generations of families are only interested in profits and the family owned manufacturers that sold to corporations are worse. It's all for profit and they don't give a hang about quality. And that's before COVID. I know lots of people who have been in and out of the RV industry and now is not the time to buy a new one, no matter the price. Fix the one you have.
@richardhenry5961
@richardhenry5961 10 ай бұрын
LOL! You Nailed it! This is why I'm building a mini travel camper my self. This is also why I'm hanging onto my 1999 F150 with over 222,000 miles on it. Today's pick-up-trucks are over priced JUNK.
@keithspernak6456
@keithspernak6456 10 ай бұрын
And you can do a lot of basic repairs on your '99 F-150 and save lots of $$$.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
That's the way! Thanks for watching, Richard.
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 10 ай бұрын
Old trucks rock. And they can last indefinitely. I'm proud of my '76 F250.
@cjhoward409
@cjhoward409 10 ай бұрын
Even appliances are junk. What parts used to be made from metal are now all plastic and that’s why things don’t last
@TheShadowCamo
@TheShadowCamo 9 ай бұрын
A lot of Professional drivers out there buying up Pre - DEF motors for their 18 wheelers! They don't want to give up their trucks!
@BrentLackner-iu4vn
@BrentLackner-iu4vn 9 ай бұрын
Certified mechanic/welder here, last yr me and my gal crawled around under some units at a camper dealership. 5 minutes in I informed her we will not be buying new. I built a better trailer frame for my canoe hauling trailer behind our wheelers!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 9 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for sharing this!!!
@chrisbriggs1848
@chrisbriggs1848 9 ай бұрын
I’m not even an RV owner … yet, but I thoroughly enjoy watching Liz’s videos. Your level of knowledge and forthrightness are refreshing.
@theresajoyce7589
@theresajoyce7589 10 ай бұрын
This was an excellent report, Liz! I’m so glad you’re not afraid to name names! Well done! 👏👏👏🍀🙋🏻‍♀️
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Theresa, I sure appreciate your support. Enjoy your weekend.
@AdventuresAllowed
@AdventuresAllowed 10 ай бұрын
It’s strange that it’s a totally unregulated industry totally driven by greed and capitalism, yet impacts highway safety.
@susanawright7757
@susanawright7757 10 ай бұрын
Yes, thank you for that, being brave!
@freedomisnotnegotiable
@freedomisnotnegotiable 10 ай бұрын
Has nothing to do with the RV industry the problem is if it’s made in the USA, it’s expensive junk. If you want junk then spend little money on Chinese made stuff. If you want quality spend the money you would spend on Made In the USA product on a made in China product and you will see highest quality. Manufacturing in this country is done because there is no workforce left, I work in manufacturing and I came here from overseas (Germany) the best manufacturing equipment these days is delivered to China! US build cars like Ford have one recall after another, Boeing airplane loose doors while flying ,RVs fall apart and about the defense industry junk we don’t have to talk…
@jab376
@jab376 10 ай бұрын
​@@freedomisnotnegotiablesorry 98% of stuff we use todat are chinese made. Doubt me? Check products in your home and notice what am talking about.
@jayswint9608
@jayswint9608 9 ай бұрын
YOU GO GIRL! Thank you for your willingness to confront the RV manufacturers. Without “tell it the way it is”, nothing will ever change. You are my hero!
@98sigsbee
@98sigsbee 10 ай бұрын
I built them in the late 70’s around Elkhart IN, most were made around that location as well as all of the materials needed. We had pride in what we were building and the money was great for back then. My last camper trailer was an 1988, built when they were still built right.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yes! That was a good year for campers! Thanks for your comment!
@usaman7358
@usaman7358 9 ай бұрын
Proud owner of a 1987 Prowler 18' travel trailer. I've had it twenty years now and only replaced the water pump (easily accesible). Nothing else, not even leaks! And I've done NOTHING to the roof. I live in hot AZ and granted I only use it about 5 times a year but I've literally done nothing to it but enjoy the heck out of it. Alot of fun for just $2,600 (which I could get tomorrow for it). Basically, 20 years of free camping.
@robynsnest8668
@robynsnest8668 5 ай бұрын
Born and raised right outside of Bristol(Mottville Mich). I cut my teeth on the industry. Coachman, even the Manufacturing House places Such as Dutch homes. They are so crap now.
@jeepster0934
@jeepster0934 10 ай бұрын
I used to work in the service department in a large RV dealer and you are 100 % correct. Total junk being built and the manufacturers don't stand behind their product. In my state the consumer has no protections either.....LEMON LAWS do not apply because they are a RECREATIONAL VEHICLE and not a motor vehicle. Consumer is on their own. I saw staples put right into water pipes etc. On a positive note Winnebago seemed to be only manufacturer that cared and stood behind their product....the rest NOT SO MUCH. I got out of industry because customers were always mad at us because of the junk built and we took all the heat. I used to get customers tell me that they were going to stop making payments because it was such a lemon.....sad thing is this only hurt them and banks went after them; no impact on industry.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I hope by holding their feet to the fire that the RV industry will start to do better. At this rate they won't stay in business unless they shape up.
@esterdrass4964
@esterdrass4964 10 ай бұрын
I was at an RV show, I think it was 2021..or maybe even early 2022...so the pandemic was sort of over. The show was mass packed and all I saw were 'sold' stickers on the units on display. They were offering 7% interest if you buy it NOW. I wanted to check out to see what was out there but so many of what they had were sold and all I thought was, did people just say 'yes' and that's it. Apparently, that is what happened. In past, people would take a minute to think about it but that day I went, it was like, you have to buy it now or the person behind you will. It was like a fire sale for RV's, this is your last chance to get this...get it now or you will never be able to buy one. I had a clue that there was something up because the pandemic shut everything down and now all of a sudden, all these rv's are popping up. Either they were hiding somewhere or these rv's were made super-fast. No time to think or inspect, just glue it together and roll it out.
@grumpyolddude439
@grumpyolddude439 10 ай бұрын
Lemon Law not applying, is a Federal thing. Makes no difference what state you are in. You are however correct that Lemon Law applies to motor vehicles (for transportation), and not for recreation.
@rathelmmc3194
@rathelmmc3194 10 ай бұрын
Is the industry in decline? Seems counterproductive to be that short term in thinking as the manufacturer.
@elpepito276
@elpepito276 10 ай бұрын
I am looking to get a C class 32 ft any recommendation for a solid build used?
@danieljtexzocotitlasilva1951
@danieljtexzocotitlasilva1951 8 ай бұрын
A few years ago I almost bought a brand new 2022 Travel Trailer but for some reason I end up buying a 2013 Travel Trailer after watching this video I'm glad I got an older RV and I love it.
@Timbrock1000
@Timbrock1000 10 ай бұрын
I bought a 1994 camping trailer a few years ago. Only cost me $2600. It was in fair condition. Mainly needed a fresh 2020's paint job, and a few other things. I got rid of the old 9" TV , then installed LED lights to replace the old ones. The quality, durability, integrity, and feel of it (after modernizing) is uncanny. SOOO much superior than comparable sized trailers made today. NO WAY would I buy anything made today with their cheap materials, flimsy doors, weak roofs, and unreliable electronics (really, who needs Bluetooth in a trailer?!). I'm sure when brand new campers made today are in the junkyard, mine will still be ready for a weekend!
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 10 ай бұрын
Yep I'm sure the junkyards are full of them.
@photografiq_presents
@photografiq_presents 9 ай бұрын
@timbrock1000 Are you sure its uncanny? A strange or mysterious, especially in an unsettling way. Or are you just using words that you don't know how to use?
@garybelew7813
@garybelew7813 8 ай бұрын
Bluetooth is very convenient, and most modern electronics use bluetooth for connectivity as opposed to cabling. I am almost 65 and love the ease of bluetooth to be able to connect to an external device to listen to music or play videos from a phone or tablet instead of hauling DVDs or CDs like we used to have to do.. As for your 1994 trailer, many RV parks won't allow it to be parked there. If you don't mind that limitation, that's great.
@pamelag7553
@pamelag7553 10 ай бұрын
You might also ask what happened to the refrigerator industry? The refrigerators nowadays are total junk and you are lucky to get 8 to 10 years out of them. I think the standard is five to eight. What is going on? When I raised my kids we had the same refrigerator for 15 years and it was still working fine when we left that house. Growing up we had the same one for over 20 years. Industry in America has sold us down the river and the government has zero objections. This is seriously messed up.
@Powerstroke98
@Powerstroke98 8 ай бұрын
Well said, we're going through the same issues, albeit so far, KZbin has let me do 'fix-it's to both our fridge and dishwasher, so I can at least cobble them up with new parts still, but with everything being plastic, I guess they are going to only last a select amount of time unfortunate, to force us to buy another new one. Or, as I do, fix it myself after watching a KZbin video on the issue.
@timothyk8788
@timothyk8788 7 ай бұрын
Planned obsolescence
@kenmetsala39
@kenmetsala39 7 ай бұрын
Our refigerator a Suburban couldn't stay below 45 F during the day. Total garbage.
@plowe7981
@plowe7981 6 ай бұрын
Last year my parents’ refrigerator finally died. My mother was mad because she only had it for 49 years. She was hoping to get 50 years out of it.
@jrc8466
@jrc8466 6 ай бұрын
Most refrigerator compressors have the dreaded MIC Syndrome - Made In China.
@harryseldon362
@harryseldon362 9 ай бұрын
When I purchased a small new travel trailer from my local RV dealer, they would not sell it to me unless I paid an additional $3000 for a 5 year warranty. They told me the warranties from the RV manufacturer are worthless. I didn't like it, but I agreed and paid it at time of purchase. I am so glad I did. The few problems I've had with the travel trailer were all covered by the extended warranty I purchased. The dealer explained that they wanted happy customers and this was a way to that end. I appreciate the honesty of my dealer and would do business with them again.
@stevegordon5243
@stevegordon5243 10 ай бұрын
In 2016, my wife and I purchased a 2001 Winnebago Minnie 31C class C motorhome. It is in great shape and we have had absolutely no issues with anything other than the fuel pump had to be replaced. It has been solid and no leaks anywhere. We plan to keep it as long as possible
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yes indeed, hang on to that Minnie! Thanks for your comment!
@stevenburmeister1484
@stevenburmeister1484 8 ай бұрын
I have a 96 Winnebago Itasca class C. 65000 miles. No major problems. Ford E-350 chassis.
@richj011
@richj011 6 ай бұрын
She's had 9 RVs? And she didn't know that new RVs are junk with all her knowledge and experience.
@andreal.1981
@andreal.1981 5 ай бұрын
@@richj011she said she’s been rv’ing since the 90s so over 30 years.
@margaretsargent6930
@margaretsargent6930 10 ай бұрын
I bought a 2015 keystone alpine 5th wheel in 2020 and purchased an extended warranty for 5 yrs, which I live in full time...no road travel 4 yrs. later no major repairs...getting ready to reseal the roof and replace the fabric that covers the slideouts... I was fortunate that a friend of mine was an RV salesman and was given info on exactly what you said...buy newer used!! I'm happy I did...thanks for your video
@LazerWolfTV
@LazerWolfTV 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for getting to the point and giving solid info rather than fluff and rambling like everyone else on KZbin
@cindyball7545
@cindyball7545 10 ай бұрын
After watching your video and reading on different FB pages for RVs, we are so thankful for the fact that when we bought our Dutch Star last June a 2016 was the most we could afford. We ended up with a 2015 which we love and haven't had any problems except for replacing some parts for the jacks.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yay! Thanks for this Cindy, and for watching. Enjoy that Dutch Star!
@rlmiller007
@rlmiller007 10 ай бұрын
I used to build yachts. It's the same progression. Fine wood and screws would change to cheaper screws and veneer. The craftmenship on the first few would be amazing.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Sad to hear this. Thanks for sharing.
@bentleymalshi7953
@bentleymalshi7953 10 ай бұрын
Good enough reasons not to buy boats and RVs. Tent and vehicle camping seem to be better alternatives these days.
@MotocrossGuru-zf8pk
@MotocrossGuru-zf8pk 10 ай бұрын
too many campers with leaking roofs my god
@savannahsmiles1797
@savannahsmiles1797 10 ай бұрын
SAME with parade of homes...the price tags went sky high but the interiors were not upgraded at all. For that much cash why would I want an inferior tract home design & materials.
@bentleymalshi7953
@bentleymalshi7953 10 ай бұрын
@@savannahsmiles1797 At least with homes, regardless of how they were built, command a much higher price tag (depending o the market) and manage to retain it value (with upgrades and maintenance) for the next buyer. We cannot say the same for boats and RVs. It is totally up to the next buyer on how aesthetically they want to value those things (boats and RVs), and what they are willing to pay for them.
@timl9495
@timl9495 9 ай бұрын
Liz. You are doing a great service to all us RV'ers! By you exposing these bad manufactures I hope they will change their bad RV practices, and terrible builds. I purchased my Keystone Carbon 349 in 2018, and aside from minor problems, it has been terrific for us. Glad I bought before the pandemic. I am very handy, so I can fix all the minor problems. As I always tell friends looing for RV's, " you better be a very handy DYI person, or have lots of money and time to keep bringing your RV back to the dealer time and time again". I too went to the RV show in Utah a few weeks ago. I am still amazed at the poor design of many RV's. Keep up the pressure on these mgr.'s, exposed all the BAD ones, so we can avoid getting bad ones.
@davidwell686
@davidwell686 10 ай бұрын
I rented a Yukon for a month, with my GF, split the costs, tossed in a camping tent, stove etc..traveled all over the USA for a month and loved it. Turned it back in and walked away from any maintenance problems. We stayed in some motels/hotels when we got tired of camping and went into the wilderness too. It's a better way to travel. Love the USA for it's beauty, ease of travel and loved that Yukon.
@tomcarey-c4k
@tomcarey-c4k 9 ай бұрын
Not a camper here with a question...what is a Yukon?
@lillexus5589
@lillexus5589 7 ай бұрын
​@@tomcarey-c4ka RV conversion or similar on the basis of a GMC Yukon I imagine.
@alextrainor2552
@alextrainor2552 6 ай бұрын
GMC Yukon
@carlbeaver7112
@carlbeaver7112 10 ай бұрын
Add Holiday Rambler to your list and you're pretty much right on the nose. I bought an '04 because of their quality - solid wood, all metal roof, interlocking aluminum house frame, etc.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yes! The Holiday Rambler- thanks for adding this! Enjoy yours.
@usatennisproff
@usatennisproff 10 ай бұрын
Just bought a 2008 Holiday Rambler Arista 31.5 from an original owner with 18,000 miles. The mother drove the R V. till she was 83.
@42luke93
@42luke93 10 ай бұрын
Wow that's wonderful she did that. My grandpa cant drive anymore at that age. Are these Ford Vans usually?@@usatennisproff
@steverice595
@steverice595 9 ай бұрын
Having owned an RV repair business, my opinion has always been that most of them are junk. "Build them quick, and ship them out". I will stick with my 1991 Class C. Even though I have replaced most of the common components, I have spent less, abut yet all the "working stuff" is pretty new. Nice job on this content.
@alextrainor2552
@alextrainor2552 6 ай бұрын
What model year do you think the cutoff is that you should buy?
@truthhurts2149
@truthhurts2149 13 күн бұрын
They definitely have always been built to fail with cheap material that once get wet it's over. Cheap chipboard roof decking and luan boards. As far as I know the cabinets have always been made of particle board in these campers.
@JohnSmith-ug5ci
@JohnSmith-ug5ci 10 ай бұрын
Liz, this is what happened. 1Tim. 6:10a “For the love of money is the root of all evil: Without specific and good laws to protect the consumer the evil hearts of man will always rise up. Trying to shame the manufacturers into quality will never work. There needs to be serious new laws to protect the consumer.
@LCLand
@LCLand 10 ай бұрын
It might work. Warning us to stay away from them is good. It could hurt business and out the pressure on them
@NotMe_NotMe
@NotMe_NotMe 4 ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-ug5ci don’t expect your legislators to protect you. You do know what lobbyist do, right? Honestly, being smarter about who you vote for and hold their feet to the fire is the only chance you have. Complacency will get you screwed.
@ericoswood1856
@ericoswood1856 10 ай бұрын
I bought a 2005 Winegago Vectra brand new and I still use it. Relatively few problems over the years. Solid build inside.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yay, thanks for saying so, Eric!
@davidrichards2113
@davidrichards2113 9 ай бұрын
We went out west with friends that had the 2005 vectors. He loaded it with the works (Tracking satellite, sound system, large flat screen, etc. ). It was truly a home on wheels with monster diesel to boot.
@JCCRaleighNC
@JCCRaleighNC 9 ай бұрын
Bravo! You nailed it. Finally someone with facts who is calling out the RV industry. Thank you.
@andycommonsincanada
@andycommonsincanada 10 ай бұрын
Liz, we were in the retail furniture business for 20 years here in Canada and I can assure you it’s not just RVs, it’s furniture, mattresses, cars, in fact everything made here in North America. Corporate greed is the basic reason. We too went to the Tampa RV show and were shocked to see how bad some RVs were made, especially the high end rigs. Also we visited some factories in Elkhart in May and what we saw was terrible. We have visited many many manufacturers production facilities and truss us how they are making RVs is not what it should be. We are looking at smaller independent manufacturers for our next rig.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yes, that is smart of you. I did a video about Oliver Trailers and will do more in the future of smaller independent mfrs. Thanks for watching and stay tuned.
@pnwrving9841
@pnwrving9841 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 Thor Scope, the FB forum speaks of poor quality, I must have had mine built on a good day since I have had very little issues. The dealership has been good to me also (Lazy Days)
@lewisbale1
@lewisbale1 10 ай бұрын
True
@BG-sv2ch
@BG-sv2ch 10 ай бұрын
Corporate greed or people wanted inexpensive products. More than likely it is both.
@brianw612
@brianw612 10 ай бұрын
It's not only corporate greed. People simply wont spend what is required for a high quality NA product. You can produce that, but your share of the market would be so small that your economy of scale would break you.
@glenncoon6639
@glenncoon6639 10 ай бұрын
Keep em coming Liz these videos are on point !
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Glenn, I so appreciate you cheering me on!
@JoseRojasA
@JoseRojasA 9 ай бұрын
Some quality reporting here. Thank you.
@mikerees9158
@mikerees9158 10 ай бұрын
Hi Liz. I recently had a 2022 Winnie Class C. My observations, when compared to the Jayco and Forest River C’s I’ve had in the past is that the assembly of the Winnie was much better. Wiring wasn’t a rat’s nest, proper connectors/terminators on the electrical, plumbing was neat, etc. The quality of the rig itself though left much to be desired. The cabinetry was cheap, faucets, etc. Definitely not worth the price premium that Winnie charges. It still came with a plastic toilet for heaven’s sake (and yes we knew that when we bought it). After owning it for a year we couldn’t get over the overall cheapness of the unit. However, it didn’t have any outright failures or embarrassing moments. I’ve had way too many motorhomes over the past 13 years and my wife and I have decided to change our approach to the hobby. I have a F250 now and the next rig we purchase will be a towable; likely a Rockwood Minilite. We just don’t want the financial exposure that comes with motorized when it comes to this hobby. We’re hoping to keep it simpler the next go around (travel trailer, less complex less things to break). Going with Rockwood as most everything we can find online seems to show they are still trying to put out a decent product. They all have problems, and sometimes you get a real piece of junk coming off the line, but based on our research we’ll hedge our bets with a Rockwood towable.
@brianbender7438
@brianbender7438 10 ай бұрын
Nice video, Liz. I have heard the same comments from many, many people the last few years. I have helped people in campgrounds with their units to get generators started, jacks retracted, circuit breakers tripping, water leaks. Scary. We have a 1989 21’ Winnebago Warrior on a Ford E-350 chassis. That whole rig is so solid and after 127, 000+ miles, nothing is loose or falling off and we have been on some ugly roads, I tell ya. Minor screw tightening, the typical adjustments of door latches, steps, etc. are normal after being on rough roads or frame-twisting curb cuts. Everything works right, it’s clean inside, no rodent damage, plus I keep the unit under a cover, run the engine and all appliances once a month and it’s ready to go. But…we have switched over to a 2019 Airstream 23FB pulled by a 2017 Chevy Colorado with a Duramax diesel. Very nice combination and mileage is twice what our Warrior was. We spent a lot of nights in the old unit and I still love it. Just more comfy to have a bed on same level as everything else in the trailer. I’m not sure why we are keeping the Warrior. Just can’t bear to sell it? We started out in a little Scamp in 1977 and progressed from there. Airstreams are well built but still have a certain amount of hoki-ness and sloppy workmanship built in. I have done enough modifications and work on ours to have seen it myself. Thanks for the good show. Stay safe out there!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Hi Brian, thanks for sharing this. Sounds like you have good reasons to hang on to that 1989 Winnebago. And thanks for your kind words, stay safe as well.
@brianbender7438
@brianbender7438 10 ай бұрын
@@LizAmazing Liz, You are welcome. I have subscribed to your channel and will look for your future shows!👍
@ValGermain-q5c
@ValGermain-q5c 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Great video ! I was also at the Quartsite show this year and noticed the lack of quality in the new RVs.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 9 ай бұрын
Yep! Thanks for backing me up, and for watching!
@kingforaday8725
@kingforaday8725 10 ай бұрын
Back in the 1990's I worked at an auto salvage yard. My job was to remove useful parts from salvaged vehicles. This included vehicles from golf carts to big rigs. Even back then when I came across a travel trailer or motorhome I was amazed at the flimsy construction. We would joke these things looked like they were constructed with popsicle sticks, finishing nails, and fiber board.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yep. Thanks for your comment, very helpful!
@justdoingitjim7095
@justdoingitjim7095 10 ай бұрын
I've owned several RV's and was a full timer for over a decade. My RV's were either HR, Air Stream or Silver Streak. I wanted the aluminum ribs and solid construction. I'm a retired Master Carpenter and know all about leaks and rotted wood in RV's. I've rebuilt and repaired several for clients and friends. The fit and finish of the older models was hands down much better than recent ones. My oldest was a 28 foot, 1970 Silver Streak and my newest was a 35 foot, 1995 Holiday Rambler. If you get anything between those years you'll have a gem!
@_GntlStone_
@_GntlStone_ 9 ай бұрын
That's why I bought a 1976 Serro Scotty. It may be mostly 3/4 plywood and yeah I have to peel and redo the luan in the roof, but it's rather simple and just requires willingness, elbow grease and time.
@RVLiving5863
@RVLiving5863 9 ай бұрын
Keep up the pressure, great job
@michaelanthony1797
@michaelanthony1797 10 ай бұрын
I travel in a small suv, about every 3 days I stay in a decent motel/hotel or shower at a t Loves truck stop. Life is good.
@usaman7358
@usaman7358 9 ай бұрын
I have enough $ to buy virtually anything I want but am thinking of doing exactly what you are doing, but in a Toyota Sienna minivan. I didn't retire early in life to be dealing with all the frustrations of cheaply made motorhomes.
@wolfshurtleff1833
@wolfshurtleff1833 10 ай бұрын
And again a beautiful job, Liz, you hit the nail on the head. Over our last two years of fulltime RVing we hear more and more about the decline in quality within the last couple of years. People rather buy an older model or keep their own older ones. Keep going Liz, brave people like you can make a change. Good luck from your friends Brook & Wolfie
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, big hugs to you both! I sure appreciate your love and support.
@stephendaley2857
@stephendaley2857 9 ай бұрын
I just found you. You are very good in conveying your points and I will continue to follow you as I plan to get back on the road. Did full-time 25 years ago for a couple years and now want to get back to it. Really appreciate your perspective. Steve
@jimkempton5568
@jimkempton5568 10 ай бұрын
Wow woman, you are spot on in regards to the RV industry going to hell in a hand bag. The happiest day in my life was when I was able to sell my motor home. NEVER AGAIN!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
I don't blame you, Jim. I hope the RV industry wakes up soon. Thanks for your comment and have a great weekend!
@williamnale7835
@williamnale7835 10 ай бұрын
The only way the RV industry is going to wake up is people have to stop buying their products until they reform their ways. Or go out of business.
@brianarmstrong6215
@brianarmstrong6215 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video! I bought an LG stove. Nothing but problems. Everything today is junk. I live on the Great Lakes and I’m paying 100$ a month for water!
@toddjcollins88
@toddjcollins88 9 ай бұрын
As a boater looking to get into RVs, this was a very informative video. Thank you for the effort and information that you put into this.
@cabracove
@cabracove 10 ай бұрын
Good post. It's not just the big RVs either. The van I turned into a hi-top camper is a 2004 E350, and its way better built than anything new. The Sprinters, Promasters, Transits are all unibody. I wouldn't own one just for that reason alone.
@esterdrass4964
@esterdrass4964 10 ай бұрын
Apparently, those older high-top vans are what people are looking for. I am not too keen on what they make today. I know someone that bought a nice-looking smart car...it stopped working because the computer wasn't able to communicate with the engine.
@cabracove
@cabracove 10 ай бұрын
@@esterdrass4964 I couldn't find a low mileage one that wasn't stupid expensive, so I bought a cargo van with 70K on it, and had the top put on by Wasatch in Utah.
@esterdrass4964
@esterdrass4964 10 ай бұрын
@@cabracove I think that is the way to go, if you can find the right van at the right price. I looked and gave up because, as you mentioned, they were stupid expensive, to the point of insulting. When I was at an rv show a few years ago, class b's were selling above 150. I thought I would have passed out at the price tag.
@cabracove
@cabracove 10 ай бұрын
@@esterdrass4964 15 for the van, 8 for the top installed with lights and fan. Another 5 for all the appliances, diesel heater, battery bank, DC charger, etc. So I'm still under 30K. It's been to the 8 states closest to CA and to Alaska twice in the last 2 years. Still only has 95K on the odo. There's nothing luxury about it, but everything works as it should. I'm very happy with it.
@esterdrass4964
@esterdrass4964 10 ай бұрын
@@cabracove That's fantastic and as long as its comfortable. I love the idea of lux but not for the price tag nor do I like the idea of lux taking over everything in the van and leaving little space. Enjoy your rving!!
@norm5785
@norm5785 10 ай бұрын
All very valid points. It is just a shame what has happened to Air Stream. Dealerships are also no help many many times. Thank you for sharing. Everyone stay safe, warm, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Norm! Enjoy your weekend.
@aceventuraaceventura2003
@aceventuraaceventura2003 10 ай бұрын
I think Thor owns Airstream. There is a video from Colonial Airstream that posts lots of video. I saw the wiring they did and it looked as sloppy as the Winnebago. Not many companies nowadays puts pride in their work. I rather look at builders from up North like in Canada. I know that Pleasureway is still one the better ones, and Northern Lites. But not Airstream, I think they are overpriced for what they are. All of these companies main goal is volume to raise the stock price but they sacrifice quality and customer service.
@phoenixmistertwo8815
@phoenixmistertwo8815 7 ай бұрын
Same with cars... Its seems the 90s is the best year even to this day.
@browntree1948
@browntree1948 10 ай бұрын
I ordered a new 2006 38' Winnebago in the fall of 2005 and lived in it for 11 years travelling for half the year and working as an electronic circuit-board designer for the other half. It was an interesting life and I had very few problems with the RV. Several years later I was talking to a fellow at an RV park who had purchased a 45' 2015 diesel Winnebago and had spent the previous six months in and out of the manufacturer's facility to address one problem after another. As he explained it, the older workers from the baby boomer generation had mostly retired and taken their expertise with them. He said that 2008 was the last good year for quality in most RVs in the industry. Though the younger guys were more computer savvy, they didn't have the problem-solving skills and work ethic of the children of the Greatest Generation.
@stanleykachuik2589
@stanleykachuik2589 6 ай бұрын
I agree. I've had 2 RVs. Both were 2008 builds. Found nothing but garbage after that.
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 5 ай бұрын
I’m freaking out cause we are getting our 2002 Winnie tomorrow. 48k miles. Hope it’s all good.
@NotMe_NotMe
@NotMe_NotMe 4 ай бұрын
@@kittycat8222 warren buffet bought it up in 2005. Took the industry about 3 years for him to shift to cheaper/poorer/who cares construction i guess. Sounds about right…
@dixoncider7256
@dixoncider7256 5 ай бұрын
I am 55 and camp in tents, but learned a lot from your video. Thank you. :)
@EllieAussie..
@EllieAussie.. 10 ай бұрын
I believe another issue with Covid, at least here in Australia was the massive demand on supply of caravans (I believe you call them travel trailers) and motorhomes (RV's) as there was no international travel for some time, Jayco and some others were importing caravans, putting them together here and selling them quickly en masse and of course the quality took a turn for the worse, you're doing such good work Liz you're the type of ally everyone dealing with the whole industry needs, love and peace from Australia as always 🦘😘
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
You are so right. Thanks for this, Ellie. It's true the RV industry went nuts during Covid. But I think that's no excuse for them slapping them together and thus compromising on quality. Very short sighted on their part. Thanks for watching
@barbwire65
@barbwire65 10 ай бұрын
I thank you Liz for bringing up this problem up. I'm been watching your videos for a while, and I'm amazing how well you choose your content.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Aww, thanks Barb! I really appreciate your support. Thanks for watching
@paigeanstead2089
@paigeanstead2089 26 күн бұрын
Hi Liz, I'm trying to get through your video's that I somehow missed. I bought a 2008 Gulfstream Conquest class c and figured I was safe because it was actually built in early 07. I joined lots of rv facebook groups in an effort to learn as much as my old brain can absorb. I recommend you and your videos often to try to help get these people educated about these horrible products that are being put out. I hope you keep up the good work, I think I'm all caught up now and just waiting for your next video. Thank you for all you do!
@AstrologerJoe
@AstrologerJoe 10 ай бұрын
Good job Liz!! Informative video!
@cjbrown4905
@cjbrown4905 10 ай бұрын
This is an amazing video. I will only buy used at this point.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
I'm with you. Thanks for watching.
@caroldorsett8170
@caroldorsett8170 6 ай бұрын
Saw your videos and bought an older RV with two owners the second one was a dyi guy and he did a lot of fixing up and upgrades in. It is very solid.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear this! Thanks for the report. Happy travels!
@tayninh69
@tayninh69 10 ай бұрын
In 2011 my wife and I bought a brand new Keystone Passport. The first camping season went pretty good, no big problems. For every season after that, that rig was one big money pit. We finally traded it off for a 2018 Winnebago Travato, we needed something smaller because the larger 28 foot travel trailer was getting to be to much work and we were sick and tired of having it the shop every season. We have had only one issue with the Travato, a slide out tray table swelled from the humidity and was difficult to operate. I agree with everything you said Liz, I can't speak for any of the other brands but it will be a very frosty day in h$ll before I would buy another Keystone product. Very good video.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so very much for your kind words, and for watching!
@coreymerritt7742
@coreymerritt7742 10 ай бұрын
Great video Liz I really considering keeping my 2006 Komfort I’ve now owned it for 12 years now just regular maintenance and very little issues thanks keep it going 👍❤
@shaunnightfire8269
@shaunnightfire8269 9 ай бұрын
Bought a used 2006 Komfort trailblazer. Ultra solid - Bought for $10k then sold 2 years later in 2022 for $10.5k. No reason to buy the new junk.
@coreymerritt7742
@coreymerritt7742 9 ай бұрын
@@shaunnightfire8269 ya that’s excellent I’ve had my trailer for 11 years now and the Komfort is a pretty solid trailer prior to Dutchman purchasing them in 2009 your probably right I should keep it thanks 😊
@JohnSmith-k1x
@JohnSmith-k1x Ай бұрын
Liz you are simply Amazing helping others navigate the RV issues. We all appreciate all your hard work
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing Ай бұрын
Thank you so much, John! I feel I am making a difference!
@JohnSmith-k1x
@JohnSmith-k1x Ай бұрын
@@LizAmazing You are keep it up
@kathleengilmore8238
@kathleengilmore8238 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful job Liz. Thank you!!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, Kathleen!
@nancystrickland1623
@nancystrickland1623 10 ай бұрын
Liz keep up the great work!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, Nancy, I sure appreciate your support!
@jonmcclure10
@jonmcclure10 6 ай бұрын
Glad to see you knowledge on this subject. My wife and I agree with your comments 100%, but I am not sure that the industry can be saved from its demise! We have owned many different size campers, 5th wheel campers etc., and the ones made two decades ago have quality fit and finish, real wood and all the things mentioned. Not so today. I used to produce huge convention shows for 20 years nationwide, and everyone got into my shows with crowds of 50,000 to 80,000 in a two and a half day shows. Inside I put 200 of the largest food companies in largest shows, mid-size shows half that and home builders had a strong presence in most shows too, with everything in your home, plus an R.V. section outside for most shows, as the cost for square footage did not allow me to bring them into the convention centers. I did also have bass boats and other pleasure craft inside, but only in our Tampa Bay Food, Home, Health & Recreation shows would I allow large 50 to 100 million dollar yachts only five each year, do to size on the boat pier. Even Busch Gardens got in the shows, always a big pavilion in the front of the convention center, (big draw each year). However, free food from 100 or 200 of the largest food companies guaranteed a huge crowd for all vendors selling anything. Like they say, "if you keep the troops well fed they will fight for you", so-to-speak, as you want them staying for many hours to check all booths. If you have a party and NO one comes, that is not a good party! That was my goal. Back to the R.V. sections, well I as a person who knew R.V.'s having owned many, I saw also at my convention shows terrific quality down grades inside and outside most types of R.V.'s. We have many friends and family that own all kinds of R.V.s and all agree that it is a crap shoot trying to buy anything today that will hold up on or off the road. I think however, that Tiffin Motorhomes made in Red Bay, Alabama are one of few that is keeping their reputation for making high quality and luxurious and hand made RV's still. Check out their reviews and they want you there for the build at the plant, so you can see every step of production. I would like for this lady to look into these outstanding units, as I have been to the Alabama huge plant and been in dozens across the nation in shows and never heard a disparaging comment about Tiffin build quality. We do not trust the quality anymore, so we just stay in Hilton's all over America and the world now for our travels. Spent to many vacations repairing myself many R.V's even when they made the good stuff, but today forget it, as it is a full time job, keeping them working and running!
@jameseaton9591
@jameseaton9591 10 ай бұрын
Great reporting
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, James, so glad you are here!
@michaelonderko9660
@michaelonderko9660 10 ай бұрын
Have you looked at “Brinkley” ? If so what’s your opinion on them ?
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yes. I've heard good things and plan to talk about them in an upcoming video. Thanks for watching and stay tuned.
@patrickconroy8729
@patrickconroy8729 6 ай бұрын
Good stuff, thanks. My neighbor bought a new RV a while back, spent over a year trying to fix everything. He even drove to Indiana (from home in Fla) and parked at the manufacturer for several weeks in an attempt to get things fixed.
@starkman14a
@starkman14a 10 ай бұрын
I have friends who are planning to buy their first RV this spring. I am CERTAINLY going to tell them this report is a MUST-SEE! Thank you!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this!
@BRK-B-all-the-way
@BRK-B-all-the-way 10 ай бұрын
I just sold a 20' 1976 Shasta towable camper. I was the second owner. My phone was literally ringing off the wall. It had more than a thousand views in two days. It was all original, no leaks and no rust. It was very well taken care of and mechanically perfect. The first guy that came out said it was unbelievable and gave me my asking price....5k.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Wow. Thank you for sharing this. They definitely don't build them like they used to. Thanks for watching.
@kevinvoyer5053
@kevinvoyer5053 9 ай бұрын
I have not been in the travel trailer thing for long, our first for my wife and I was a meager 2015 Forest River Wolf Pup 16 FQ, we bought new for $13,400! Then went camping on weekends and long trips south from Massachusetts, all over the east coast from Bar Harbor to Key West. As far west as Pigeon Forge and Corpus Christi. Then in the winter of 2017, we started planning on retiring in Florida, so we went down in the winter camping and looking for an area we liked. Then instead of winterizing and bringing the Pup home up north, we stored it in Orlando. Then took two more trips down before sell our home on The Vineyard and driving back, picking up the Pup, signed papers to build a new home and headed west on a 4 month trip, in the 2016 Colorado Z71 Ext Cab 4x4, we had been using all that time with the Wolf Pup. Then during the last month of construction went back to central Florida, camping nearby. Then after moving in I brought the trailer in for maintenance and new tires. But left the Orlando Camping World with a 2020 Grey Wolf 24 JS, a similar floor plan like the 16FQ, walk around queen bed, full dry bath, but bigger all around, plus a nice sleeper sofa between the bed and kitchen area. With many amenities like power jack, outdoor kitchen with ice maker, full size RV fridge. Nothing like the monster 5th wheels you folk drag around, but even though we had no issues at all with either of out travel trailers I noticed a difference between the 2015 and 2020!! So much so we sold the 2020 when offered crazy money right at the end of Covid so I jumped on it. Then health issues were timely but still an issue. But now we are again planning to continue camping, with a new pop up tent, yea a tent, but it’s 8’ by 10’ and weights only 60 lbs in the nice bag, very dry and comfortable in temperate weather, rain and cold are not so bad with our electric fake cast iron heater, but with no AC? No summer camping! But we are in the process of buying a new Van, we are going to build a van camper ourselves so no quality issues and the Van is a proven Chevy 2500 Express I’m having converted to 4x4, has a V8, with lots of power with 8 speed trans for decent mileage, at least 18 highway built and loaded to go, anywhere, park in any parking spot, camp in any campground site. Because finding camp sites that are vacant is getting harder and harder. But a Van? We could stay in any parking garage if need be, or Cracker Barrel or WallMart Home Depot or Lowe’s. With ease and free. So happy trails, fun and good health and stay safe!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 9 ай бұрын
Yes, a van is a good choice. Thanks for sharing this. And good news, I have not seen full campgrounds in a while. I think things are easing up. Thanks for watching.
@ingridbond3432
@ingridbond3432 10 ай бұрын
excellent - very helpful, Liz, thanks!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for being here, Ingrid! Have a great weekend!
@Bo-hb3eo
@Bo-hb3eo 10 ай бұрын
Hi Liz, you’re absolutely right. And it’s a shame, we live in RV manufacturing country. And I’m embarrassed, even though I’m not in the industry. I have family and friends who are. We have an older camper trailer. 2001 in fact. A Fleetwood. Obviously, it’s been maintained and upgraded over the years but it’s in wonderful shape. Everything works, even the air conditioning. The problem is… some campgrounds seem to discriminate against older campers. That’s been a problem for us. Thankfully, not at our local state campground… Yet. Thanks again.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
I have heard that there is a "ten year rule" at some campgrounds but I have never had that problem and I have a 2005 and travel the country. A few places have asked me to send photos of my rig and then it's been fine. So keep trying as I think those discriminatory campgrounds are few and far between. And thank you so much for your support!!! Have a great weekend.
@theonemodifier
@theonemodifier 7 ай бұрын
Good information! Always wanted a bigger RV. But I'm still loving my 1993 Ford E150 707 Freedom conversion van. Build so well with really nice cabinetry. 31 years old and still runs like a dream. knock on wood.
@philc.9280
@philc.9280 10 ай бұрын
We had a wonderful experience so far with our brand-new Winnebago Travato 59G class B RV. I realize there are much less moving parts than a larger class A or C. No slides and less systems to go bad. We've downsized from a larger class C as our needs changed over time. Also nice getting 17 mpg now. Taken 10 trips so far and no issues yet.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yay! Thank you for this! Happy travels, Phil!
@petermenor8074
@petermenor8074 10 ай бұрын
Not sure what year your 59 G is but I have a 22 59 K and have had 4 recalls with the major one being with the awning. Had 2 recalls on this and still no fix after 3 months. I love the Travato but recalls are a pain to deal with. Not sure what is going on with Winnebago/Carefree but this is not rocket science and this should have been fixed long ago.
@philc.9280
@philc.9280 10 ай бұрын
@@petermenor8074 it's a 2023 and I did take it in to have the fuel line on the generator replaced. That was pretty minor. I heard about the possible recall of my awning prematurely activating while driving but nothing has transpired yet. Now that I'm thinking about it, I could just bind the awning with wire just to be on the safe side for my next long trip in May.
@bernardszirth9665
@bernardszirth9665 10 ай бұрын
Always well researched information to keeping us safe from profiteers with no morals! Thank you Liz 🙏
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Awww, thanks Bernard! Big hugs to you!
@hevinamber
@hevinamber 5 ай бұрын
I love you for this video ❤ this is the exact same reason why when I bought my second home I made sure it was not a new construction home; although I had my first home built, it was quality but after covid like you said, quality completely dwindled and when I was buying this home (my forever home on earth), I made sure it was built even before my first home. This is another reason why I do not want to get rid of my RV travel trailer for a new one: quality real wood and solid frame, although there are bathroom leak issues 😢. And I did have issues with them not sealing properly. Overall quality has diminished significantly although prices have skyrocketed 🤨.
@CozyLivingMachine
@CozyLivingMachine 10 ай бұрын
Great video with excellent examples of where they cheap out now. Nothing will change until we stop buying this trash! Educating buyers is the only way to do it, and your videos are incredibly helpful! One thing that I find fascinating is that we've done a few videos ourselves on the terrible build quality and specific details in units that I advise folks to stay far away from, but there are actually owners of those units who comment and post on forums about how great of an experience they have, only a few minor things here and there, and work hard to talk more people into that specific make and model of RV. It seems to me that we don't all agree on the definitely of "quality"!
@johnwinter9722
@johnwinter9722 10 ай бұрын
A sad story, especially the COVID supply chain issues. I traded in a 2018 Aerolite for a 2023 Rockwood Mini Lite last August. The Aerolite was pretty good and nothing serious went wrong in five years of ownership. The Rockwood so far has been impeccable. Well made, solid wood cabinetry, everything works, and it tows like a dream with the torsion bar suspension. The fit and finish is surprising in its quality. I expected to spend a day with my tools and fasteners finishing up what the factory left undone. Not needed.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Glad to hear this, thanks for your comment, John! Enjoy that Rockwood!
@glennkemp7450
@glennkemp7450 10 ай бұрын
We just bought a 2024 Flagstaff Micro lite 21FBRS, I looked it over top to bottom and it's really well built (no defects so far) compared to our last trailer, a 2021 Winnebago 2108 DS which spent the first two weeks of ownership getting defects repaired and then another 6 weeks at the dealer over the following year.
@johnwinter9722
@johnwinter9722 10 ай бұрын
Good to hear about your Flagstaff Micro Lite (same as Rockwood Mini Lite). All of my research suggested Rockwood/Flagstaff were a stair step up in quality and appointments from many trailers. So far, as you have found, it is true. Maybe not the very top of the line, but even those silver trailers have their issues. Good luck!@@glennkemp7450
@paulrybarczyk5013
@paulrybarczyk5013 10 ай бұрын
The CCP-Virus did not cause supply chain issues. The supply-chain issues were caused by authoritarian mandates from corrupt government operatives.
@spike0226
@spike0226 10 ай бұрын
April 2021 sold my 2016 Mini-Lite and ordered a 2021 Rockwood 2606WS from Wana RV in Shipshewana Indiana. Got it just before the big Covid push and I must say it has been flawless. I’ve put almost 20,000 miles on it with no issues. Then again, that’s why I stuck with Rockwood. Perfect? No. Better than others? Yes.
@macsloan58
@macsloan58 5 ай бұрын
Very good information. We are looking for a class C and are in the process of informing ourselves. This helps a lot as do your other videos. Thank you.
@mikewatkins978
@mikewatkins978 10 ай бұрын
Another tip on used RV's is the length, seems the bigger it is the lower the price. That's something to consider, bigger/longer RV's have much higher maintenance, service departs charge more for the same service on longer RV's compared to shorter RV's, even the oil changes. Longer RV's aren't allowed in most national parks, can't just stay in a Walmart parking lot anymore. Driving the longer RV's takes skill, you don't realize just how wide 8.5ft is until you're on a two lane road or crowded freeway, turning radius, stopping distance. Also, just about any campground is very limited on long RV parking spots. Sweet spot is 24ft.
@I_need_an_oil_change
@I_need_an_oil_change 10 ай бұрын
Wow. Thx Liz! Happy with my 2010 Keystone 34 foot travel trailer. Live full time in it. Survived Hurricane Ian without a scratch during a direct hit. Some of the newer rigs didn't survive..
@waynebaker2452
@waynebaker2452 4 ай бұрын
We bought a 2022 Thor Compass. When I walked in the first time looking around I couldn’t believe the lack of attention to detail and sloppiness of the building quality. Yesterday I was looking at why our bottom drawers wouldn’t stay closed and the magnets and flat steel pieces they stick to were about 2-3” out of alignment. We are also having our slide fixed on a TSB that has gashed the original floor and started on the new one we put in after it was supposedly fixed. The bad thing is it’s hard to find a dealership that you trust to do things right. I’m done messing around with people that don’t know what they’re doing so I do all my repairs myself. Thank goodness I have the tools and knowledge to do so.
@cowgirlval5216
@cowgirlval5216 10 ай бұрын
I've been wondering all that myself Liz! This is such a valuable video! Thank you for making this one and how that book coming along?😂😂😂 Liz we are blessed to have you❤
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Hi Val, well you know I haven't written one word in the book lately. I have been so busy with the channel that it will have to replace any book that I may have written. Thanks so much for your love and support!
@cowgirlval5216
@cowgirlval5216 10 ай бұрын
@LizAmazing 👍❤️ I'll be the first to buy that book and I'll wait how ever long it takes. Consider naming it "The RV Travel Bible"👍
@TrimansWife
@TrimansWife 10 ай бұрын
We had planned to trade up this year, from a small travel trailer to a small class c. After doing much research and reading what owners were saying about lack of quality- we decided to keep our little camper (a 2022) and be happy we have had zero issues. One of the few and far between, eh?
@usatennisproff
@usatennisproff 10 ай бұрын
The day is not over yet........
@mikemason746
@mikemason746 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2020 Winnebago Sunstar (gas class A) and it is holding up well, except for the typical plumbing issue of connecting flexible tube to PEX connectors. I thought about upgrading to new until I heard all the horror stories, so I will just upgrade this one. Maybe I got lucky and have one made just before COVID messed things up.
@lonab324
@lonab324 10 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing more videos related to your travels.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. I really have never done any kind of travelogue. This channel is mostly educational for RVers, would-be RVers, and armchair RVers. I have done a lot of tips and tricks related to RVing in the past. Thanks for watching and for your feedback!
@zatoichi3838
@zatoichi3838 8 ай бұрын
Great video ! Been watching you for years now. Just want to give my 2 cents on my Class C motorhome. It's a 2019 Coachmen Freelander 32 DS (aka FS) with a Ford V-10. We live in it full time at an RV park. Only been on 2 trips with it (7500 miles total). I consider it a very well made motorhome. No major issues at all. Tons of storage ! Have made a few minor upgrades to make it more liveable. Definitely a keeper.
@racoming1035
@racoming1035 9 ай бұрын
I used to go camping. Don't anymore. We only go away a few weekends a year. Camper $50k to $100k. Truck $80k. Campground $100 to $200 a night. Groceries almost same as restaurants. It's cheaper to stay in a hotel.
@donwatterson8343
@donwatterson8343 10 ай бұрын
Just got back from Detroit RV show and you are right, what happened to the quality? Have A 2014 Tiffin allegro open road 32sa and I looked at the 2024 it was awful. Cheap builds
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yep. Such a big difference. Thanks for your comment, Don!
@Walt1960
@Walt1960 Ай бұрын
Your channel is the reason we built a second home rather than an RV. We appreciate you.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing Ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know, Walt. I truly am on a mission to get the RV industry to wake up and start making quality products. They just can't stay in business if this keeps up.
@danrandall794
@danrandall794 10 ай бұрын
Right on. Anyone interested should check out Lehto Laws you have to be insane to buy an RV. He talks about the disclosures that new RV buyers sign that basically give up their rights if there is an issue. Keep up the great work and thanks for doing this.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Yes, those dealer contracts are nuts!! Thanks for your comment, Dan, and for your support. Have a great weekend!
@jasonwilson9406
@jasonwilson9406 9 ай бұрын
Since COVID I've noticed my breakfast biscuits have shrunk so I can only imagine what corners have been cut on RV components
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 9 ай бұрын
Exactly! Thank you for watching.
@kevinjhonson5925
@kevinjhonson5925 4 ай бұрын
I have 2014 jayco travle trailer I have towed it all over Canada no issue only the bench seats in the bump out have come apart. All the appliances still work ( knock on wood) we have had it parked the last 3 years at a campground but want to travel again so we are looking at buying a smaller unit but I’m not sure if I want to buy a new one.
@MeganSmith-ly2cl
@MeganSmith-ly2cl 10 ай бұрын
2019 Winnebago View. DEF isn’t a big deal, some minor issues like a screw coming loose but generally we’re happy with our motor home.
@bounderchris
@bounderchris 10 ай бұрын
I told you this a while ago! That’s why I stick with 03-07 Bounders! The quality is night and day and for gas rigs the W22 Workhorse chassis is really good… has the GM 8.1 big block and the Allison 6 speed tranny. The workhorse was up I believe to 2010ish era so those rigs would be fine but somewhere around 07-08 they went to the cheaper thinner roof material and at 08 with the market crash I believe there was probably a couple years of not good rigs… depending on the company I am sure.. I definitely would NEVER trust a Thor or Jayco.. Edit: must have commented too soon your mentioned all this in your video 😂 Winnebago has NO structure in their roofs I would run from them. Watch az expert he re does many of them they are foam and filon
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Great minds think alike! Thanks for your comment, Chris. Enjoy that Bounder!
@RG-xd1gj
@RG-xd1gj Ай бұрын
Liz, thank you for everything you are doing to expose and help these people that spend so much money on junk. ❤
@mikecarroll5853
@mikecarroll5853 5 ай бұрын
I just got off the phone with my wife about RV or trailer . And this pops up on my feed.
@reddymon
@reddymon 10 ай бұрын
That angled bed seemed like a cool idea till I noticed there was no night stand on one side.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
I just rewatched it. There actually IS a nightstand on each side. Yay!
@dianesilverstein6475
@dianesilverstein6475 10 ай бұрын
You are amazing! Thank you for all you're doing to reveal the poor quality in most RV's.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support, Diane. I am glad you are here! Have a great weekend!
@clean1566
@clean1566 9 ай бұрын
Exactly right! When we were going cross country 2019-2021, I couldn’t tell you how many people I ran into with brand new 5th wheelers that were broken in so many ways. Forest River being one of the worst. When I started looking used motorhome, I figured, buy the top of the line that you can afford. I bought a ‘92 Country Coach, which was the top of the industry at that time. Don’t regret it a bit. 1/2” tile floors, corian countertops, solid wood cabinets, and best appliances you could get at the time. No weight consciencness here. Lol the gillig chassis is still good, and old 8.3 cummmins, which got me 9mpg cross country, is still going strong. Headed to Idaho this summer. It pays to shop quality, do your homework, and do inspections before buying. Great video!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 9 ай бұрын
Awesome! Those Country Coaches are such wonderful classics, hang onto yours! Thanks for watching and for your kind words.
@RLBS61
@RLBS61 10 ай бұрын
Let’s give China some credit for all their cheap parts.A RV is no better than the materials used to build it and a lot of it comes from China.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
That may well be true. The kind of issues I've been doing videos about have all been assembly issues (like water leaks) and design issues (like frame failures). Thanks for watching.
@charleneheiland8803
@charleneheiland8803 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately ,the Don't give a rats behind is too prevelant in so many areas of the world these days. Some worse than others. Glad I am on my way out.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 10 ай бұрын
I'm pleased to see change finally happening and good news on the horizon in the RV industry. Thanks for watching, Charlene and stay tuned.
@WilliamSchober-l8g
@WilliamSchober-l8g 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for all those suggestions and answers however disappointing the years of the builds and quality. Wow. Thank you 😊😊
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 9 ай бұрын
You are so welcome. I just posted an update here, and thanks for watching: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGKxeH6egrBsqsU
@edrob99
@edrob99 9 ай бұрын
"What happened to the RV industry?" ... GREED!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 9 ай бұрын
Yep, that was a big one.
@jon6969
@jon6969 7 ай бұрын
Free market baby. Buckle up it’s just getting started. Wait until your grandkids take out their first mortgage on one of these bad boys parked on a lot owned by blackrock !
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