What the hell is “Dad Rock”? (the uncomfortable truth)

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

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[@My_Naginta]

I think the hippie movement is kind of coming back unexpectedly. Cattle Decapation preach hippie shit but do not sound like The Grateful Dead to say the least Also, Gojira are some of the most talented musicians on the planet and they don't exactly sound like hippies either

[@jkee9760]

You should have had a sponsor for Asprin for dad rock episode

[@SellamAbraham]

I can't believe you managed to squeeze 20 minutes out of this topic.

[@HappinessDIY]

I took my kid to this event with ninja turtles lol surprise and other toddler age stuff. They played ramones. I wasn’t sure if it was depressing or awesome.

[@novellanightmares]

Next crazy form of music will be generated by A.I

[@foodank_atr817]

Punk Rock MBA doing an in video ad for a pre made mail order meal prep box is exactly the spirit of 'Dad Rock'.

[@raidermaxx2324]

TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^ 😅😅

[@acerimmer8338]

Single dad rock 😅

[@oc7219]

Those meals would make me Kurt Cobain myself.

[@jdb2722]

Real single dads eat hungry man

[@donny_doyle]

Well done.

[@SomeGuy-xf9bc]

For the first time in Rock history, dads aren't describing modern music as noise, but as lame. We are at an inversion point.

[@stuckpig92]

And “mid” in another 20 years

[@giselastruchonski7999]

That'sright 😂😂 They bring their teens to Wacken.

[@SomeGuy-xf9bc]

@@giselastruchonski7999 I intend to bring my kid to that some day.

[@Peaceful.Protest]

Today's kids are scared of heavy music. My 14 year old nephew thought the Final Countdown was too heavy and aggressive.

[@vaderladyl]

@@Peaceful.Protest Oh boy, that is sad.

[@clear_gray_sky539]

Being old means you got to live for a long time . And you’re still alive . A lot of people don’t have that . Being old is a good thing

[@roxannablack666]

YES.

[@roxannablack666]

A lot of our favorite musicians didn’t even have that…

[@bekahnavarro]

Exactly. Growing old is a privilege not everyone gets.

[@MatticusFinch83]

Only one way to keep from getting old, and that's to die young. And who the hell wants that?!

[@miltonbuu]

I saw an elderly man walking on his own and couldn't help but wonder how I will turn out if I make it alright

[@JamesG714]

Red Hot chili peppers are on the casino tour. If there's ever a question if your band is Dad rock... if you're playing at a native American casino on a weekday, you're dad Rock

[@free-the-whales]

that's cool I didn't know that haha!

[@Shadow74soldier]

Hahaha....I used to rock my RHCP boxer shorts over leggings with Doc Martin's in the late 80's. Peeps in my high school were clueless until Under the Bridge came out.

[@Matt92Machine]

RHCP are definitely dad rock, whatever that is. Creepy dad rock too, as some of the members of that band have a questionable past.

[@Orlando_Steve]

With Ice Cube!

[@losethOS88]

😂😂😂

[@harrr53]

When a TV ad plays Nine Inch Nails Closer at 5pm I will accept Dad Rock applies to me. Good night.

[@jayb0627]

A clothing brand in Peru did it in 96, but with another song. Search Jeans Furia 1996

[@HydratedBeans]

NIN was dad rock from day 1

[@harrr53]

@@HydratedBeans I must have been a dad very prematurely :)

[@HydratedBeans]

@@harrr53 I’m just being a troll. My bad, lol

[@bscott18]

@@HydratedBeans Your dad was into some creepy bdsm shit. The question is, how did you know that?

[@GusAndTheControllers]

Ticket prices are insane and out of reach for most young people. In the 90s, Warp Tour tickets were $30, Lollapalooza about $40, while most concerts today start at $200. We need another tour with "b-list" bands, youth focused, and an affordable ticket price to revitalize the rock scene.

[@rileymetz718]

Cannibal corpse is selling floor tickets for 40$

[@rileymetz718]

The b list bands don’t cost that much unless your seeing Taylor swift or some crap like that

[@MetalGildarts]

That same Warped Tour ticket would cost $62 today and that Lollapalooza ticket would be $83. Basically today’s cost for most upper level shows. Just a thought.

[@MW-dd8vk]

Most smaller bands sell tickets for no more than £30 - £50. If you’re choosing to go see a more well established band like AC/DC for example then the tickets are gonna be way more expensive.

[@thebiolithic]

true - I went to Riot Fest last year and it was way overpriced. I'm old and rich, so "it caters to me!" However, I feel bad for the youth that might not have the same resources as myself like when I was that age. Riot Fest truly is a Rolling Stones concert for old rich people as a fest in my eyes...this is not the Warped Tour I went to as a youth to have fun for cheap. I understand older bands have bills and house payments and all that now, but the marketing is "this is a fun event for the youth" instead of "these bands are in their 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s and they have medical bills and house payments and stuff so the event is priced and produced accordingly. Remember everyone to social distance! Moshing is forbidden."

[@patricklinkous]

Im 41. I have dad rock, a dad bod, dad shoes, dad jeans, dad hats, and dad jokes. Whats the alternative? 🤷‍♂️ 😂

[@rockerpirate]

Punk rock brother

[@patricklinkous]

@@rockerpirate Of course that's nice to throw in the mix 👍

[@rockerpirate]

@@patricklinkousI’m pretty sure most punk rock is “dad punk rock”? Haha hey as a dad, I take it as a compliment haha

[@bt0694]

I’m 44 and you know how hard it is to find the little black rubber bracelets that I love?

[@rockerpirate]

@@bt0694 Home Depot

[@The-Seventies]

From moshing to Deftones, Korn, Slipknot and System of a down to being a father with a mortgage, playing my records late at night when everybody sleeps. Back then it was awesome, but these days are awesome too. Rock on dads!

[@TheKcXiV]

shit, im 47 and i listen to them when i want. Obviouslyw hen people arent sleeping, because well, i still like loud music. lol

[@VGr4pvssies]

I'm 32 and this video genuinely made me feel... Scared, and that sux. I don't have kid's yet but the genuine acceptance i hear from people on this subject is interesting. People in our age range seem to be more inclined to accept this facet that "we" had some of the last groundbreaking moments of music.

[@54raynor]

The fun thing about this topic is we can trace the birth of Dad Rap as a mainstream concept back to a specific day: February 13, 2022, when Dr. Dre and friends performed halftime of Super Bowl LVI. Millions of Gen X and Millennials went nuts over finally having a halftime show geared toward their tastes…only to realize exactly why that was the case a short time later.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

It's 2024. "Dad Rock" comprises everything from Dire Straits to Blink-182

[@andyb1653]

I'm 43 and recently started listening to my old NOFX albums again. Forgot how good that band is.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

@@andyb1653 Don't forget Face To Face, or even the Offspring! All good shit!

[@andyb1653]

@@devilsoffspring5519Hell yea

[@devilsoffspring5519]

@@andyb1653 I'm 47 and listened to Kerplunk by Green Day a little while back. Still sounds good after all these decades :)

[@drewbeta01]

I resent the term "Dad Rock" because not all of us old guys are dads. Spotify generated a playlist for me called "Angry Dad Music", which is full of what used to be called "Angsty Teen Music".

[@Outward777]

Blink-182 being referred to as “childish and juvenile” is pretty accurate imo

[@IzunaSlap]

They're a good gateway band to the Ramones, but once I got into the Ramones, I couldn't go back to Blink anymore.

[@mediumvillain]

Totally. Thats why I liked them when I was a teen, they went on stage and were goofy, immature & fun

[@NXT_LVL]

Believe the term was "teen angst music"

[@Blinkptx]

Still love them 😃🤷‍♂️

[@OTB2002]

@@IzunaSlapgateway to a shitty punk band?

[@miken8889]

dad rock is literally anything parents listened to through out history, your dad, his dad, his dad and so forth

[@v4v819]

Basically every song and band from the previous0 or past0 generation(s)...

[@Doug_M]

Yeah, it's basically some meaningless terminology thrown around by snobs.

[@NogrimStoneson]

the "problem" is most of its not even rock.

[@thatonetroll1059]

@@NogrimStonesonhow

[@PowerPackers90]

as much as I hate it. It's the circle of life. KISS in the 70s to Karens was "the devil's music" and by the 90s their music was on Nicklodeon and Scooby-Doo cartoons.

[@ligmaballs2022]

oh yeah KISS was IN scooby-doo!!

[@DrDipsh1t]

​@@ligmaballs2022if only the south park episode with Korn was a real scooby doo episode 😂

[@rumrunner8019]

So we should expect to see Marilyn Manson on Paw Patrol?

[@joejones9520]

anyone who uses "karen" in that way cant be taken seriously.

[@WarGamerGirl]

I guess the hardest thing for a lot of people to wrap their head around is the difference between "music as art" vs. "music as fashion". Pissing off parents is just "music as fashion". Even when Marilyn Manson was making parents mad, a lot of kids were still listening to Jimi Hendrix even though those songs were recorded 30 years prior. Good music will always be good music. "Shocking music" will only sometimes be good music. Calling it "Dad Rock" as a way of calling it old is just silly.

[@Leaky-bunghole]

no one is saying it's old, they're saying that the people who shepherded that music into popularity and still listen to it are the ones who are old. young people, as a whole, do not seek to popularize what old people listen to, they seek what is current and being commercially marketed toward them. they popularize what is fresh and current, what their friends are listening to. it was never about what's old, it's about the perpetual generational cycle of music evolution.

[@D_Tuned]

4:34 🎶 Hey man, Is that Dad Rock? Well, turn it up man! 🎶

[@AtZero138]

Hahaha... Cheers Gen X... Hahaha..

[@pasyensyatv9092]

Snoop Dogg dissing on mumble rap is the best part of this video

[@insaneiaq]

He’s a flip flopper though. He was on Ice T’s side hating on Soulja Boy and his nonsense rap back in 2007, then completely went the other way later on. Snoop says whatever the room wants him to say

[@yungsuccog8223]

Oh you did the thing

[@raymanic7603]

Talking about mumble rap in the big 2024

[@UziMusic]

Poop Log does food delivery app ads

[@mridlon1634]

Dad Rap…

[@apewarband]

All those people at coke parties, Back in 2008, well, Now they've got mortgages, And kids in 5th grade - Dr Seuss

[@about7grams]

Animals return to crab, alternative and rock returns to dad rock. It's just nature

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Return to monke

[@bazamere]

The crab bod has proven time and time again it is the S tier body plan 😂

[@jabohonu]

​@@ThePunkRockMBAcrab rock

[@shanesmith2853]

Thanks dad for my love of rockabilly and old school country. You turned me on to Social Distortion and The Cramps without even knowing it.

[@AtZero138]

Awesome... Your gonna be alright.. Cheers from Southern California 🇺🇸

[@dmitryowens]

And Blink 182 were always safe and tame even in their non "dad rock" prime.

[@mamneo2]

Incroyable.

[@ENGlishJELLo-yk7up]

They're more comedic

[@Dylanquinn666]

First Korn announces a 30th anniversary thing today and now this video. Are you trying to kill me Finn?! My bones are practically dust now and my back hurts.

[@jakestewartmusic]

New sounds can make waves, but excellent songs stand the test of time.

[@douglasandreano7559]

I'm 40 my daughters skateboard with me I still ware dickies and old school vans and listen to my parents music and the music I loved it's great to be alive!

[@robbyray]

This! Sounds like you have it figured out! Props.

[@MiaBostic]

So fun!

[@bugnut82]

Thats awesome. I am 41, and we are having our first kid this October. My wife wants to teach it to skateboard!

[@Blackdawn80]

I'm 43. I enjoy my dads music and my own but there's no way I can get into the modern garbage though.

[@djvoid1]

There's just a courage vacuum in music in general in 2024. You don't need shock value, controversy or anything like that. You don't need to be louder, darker, angrier, more hood than the next artist (or whatever other metric of insecurity you happen to choose).You just need people to hear your work and go, 'Yeah... I feel that...and that's something I haven't felt before'

[@alisterfolson]

You had me at the "Freedom Rock/Well, turn it up, Dude!" commercial.

[@Zaruf]

The term 'dad rock' implies there's a new mainstream rock that masses of the younger generation are listening to. Which there aren't, so it should just be 'rock' really.

[@marioman8419]

Good point. Rock hasn’t blown up since the 00-10s scene bands. It lives in the underground and hopefully see it big again. This generation needs saving

[@perfectallycromulent]

How can there be a younger generation when all the old guys scream about every change in style making your music "not real rock like we had when [old guy was in high school]? digital production? bad. vocal effects that don't give you heavy metal monster voice? bad. making a song with your computer instead of hiring a whole band, bad.

[@ditorresyt]

You guys should listen to "100 gegs - Dumbest Girl Alive". something tells me the new "kids rock" will be something like that.

[@revuesdeminuit4071]

You say that like BMTH, Bad Omens, and Sleep Token aren’t huge right now with young people thanks to tik tok. That’s the new mainstream era of rock right there

[@ggroot6559]

BMTH old school man, this band 2004 -2012 auge@@revuesdeminuit4071

[@picklenugget7176]

Honestly I think it’s less so the lack of new acts pissing people off, and more so the death of subculture with the rise of the internet. Musical acts have an easier time gaining exposure, and different artistic cultures and scenes are picked up and hyperocommodified right away when a semblance of their popularity is realized by a large internet audience

[@camiblack1]

I'd say the death of subculture kinda hit when the Hipsters came around, where just imitating counter-culture became sort of counter culture (in a counter cultureception kind of way). There really isn't that youth culture thing going on (especially in rock) that feels different, like yeah Bad Omens and Sleep Token are a breath of fresh air, but frankly Sleep Token just feels like they'd fit in in that whole Scene era, and Bad Omens in kinda the same way, there's not really anything alt in rock anymore.

[@danfurtado9158]

That doesn't make sense big dog I'm about to be 30. I listen to good ol skramz and lately scene music I avoided as a teen then. Let's be real black culture and music is the mainstream for all youth at this point. Being 13 in 08 their was a bit of a divide. After the scene era rock kinda died punk is only relevant if you live in certain metros. Rap took over that edgy punk rock experience for the youth. I say that as a juice peep and fan of the south Florida movement. The gangster rap movement just fills everything the youth finds cool and deals with. Growing up in the scene era I didn't face the same kind of shit as all the fake bars and fetty pills flowing free.

[@declinetostate938]

Pretty much. We all live post Internet and forget how big a deal it actually is on a lot of levels, this is another symptom of that.

[@camiblack1]

@danfurtado9158 See, the problem is that that is less counterculture than I think you realize, I mean FFS you used a music genre that's basically been dead since the mid 90s. From what I've seen the closest is basically recreating Digital Hardcore, but putting that modern rap sound over it, and even then it's only the music.

[@ShinerCCC]

The death of rock is economic. You need to be rich enough to afford an instrument, enough leisure time to learn it, and access to a rehearsal space (house in the suburbs where you might be able to jam until 9 PM without a noise complaint, or expensive studio time). And then multiply this by 3 or more to have enough members for what is considered rock. Kids these days can't even afford avocado toast. Hence we have Soundcloud rappers and people making beats with headphones on instead. Making music in realtime with instruments may become a lost art.

[@Stoitism]

All the kids at my local skatepark play "dad rock" music through their speakers. Not one of them has introduced me to a new band. If anything it's me who introduces them to new and upcoming bands when it's my turn to play music, which is just crazy to me as i'm almost 44 years old. If some 44 year old dude had tried to introduce me to new music when I was 16 i'd probably have laughed at them. Some good points well made in this video though. I can definitely get a sense of rock and metal becoming a legacy genre.

[@The4Headed_Dragon]

I was at the park with my kids last week and there were some skaters there with a stereo playing stuff like AC/DC and the Ramones. Thinks that were old when I was a kid.

[@dunkinking]

35, married, work in finance, have a mortgage… still wear checked vans every day.

[@qcfx2a]

I still remember when I was a kid in the late 90s watching MTV, they had this commercial for their segment of 80s music and the announcer said something like "Someday our kids will laugh at the music videos we like, but for now it's our turn to laugh".

[@evilmotorsports5076]

My local club has Emo night the first Tuesday of every month. Someone commented on their Instagram "can we move this to Friday night? Us scene kids have jobs/kids now."

[@miguel213]

lol

[@matthewdennis1739]

I love the nostalgia of listening to old MCR and Fall Out Boy from time to time, but I mostly only listen to it when in the car with my wife because that's one of the few overlapping interests we have as far as music.

[@alexziegler465]

I'm a huge horror movie nerd, and it stopped being shocking a long time ago. A few years ago I discovered John Waters and it was shocking seeing Pink Flamingos. Once things get boring and you start looking in other areas you find stuff that's exciting even if it is not current.

[@hansdado]

i guess like only gore compilations are shocking now

[@e.tezani3877]

I just watch schlock like HG Lewis and Ray Dennis steckler.. much better than anything at hot topic

[@codexnecro666]

Pink Flamingos is shockingly bad

[@phipsk1259]

eggman?

[@phipsk1259]

Better than at least half of M Night Shamalamadingdong's work.@@codexnecro666

[@Late70sRocker]

Back in my day, the “dad rock” was called “Oldies.” Of which my mom just called them, Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Elvis Presley

[@tannerc.390]

That’s like the rock of my ancestors now lol

[@vaderladyl]

Then they were called classics. And now Dad rock? Why? Silly and ageist.

[@TheSteinbitt]

The main reason is birth control, no unwanted children, and very little violence and abuse of kids. It’s good for the kids, but bad for art.

[@jakelee5456]

"Dad Rap"? Finn, the world wasn't ready for that! I love it!

[@mykewilliamsdorsey2727]

At 57 I laugh at 40 somethings being shocked that their edgy music from their 20s is Dad rock to teenagers today. Every generation ages bro, if you’re lucky enough to live long enough to become Dad aged.

[@discobiscuits4251]

To be fair fountains of Wayne was always dad rock

[@fridz66]

Stacey’s Mom would disagree.

[@egorborisov4388]

The whole video to me was like scratching glass with a nail. I'm 27 years old and a lifelong rock music fan. I see more and more teenagers today being interested in rock and metal because hip-hop/trap and other alternative genres in the mainstream have become what normies are listening to. At least that's what it seems like. No one told the lo-fi, funk and indie musicians who reinvented the sound for today's listeners that their music is for dads. I'm more than excited to see what rock music brings to us in the near future.

[@MoonOvIce]

I found normies listening to rap in the very early 2000's already. So I went into heavy/power/death/melodic death/thrash/black metal territory, and also ambient, classical, industrial, etc. Now, many of those are a little more "accepted", but still less dull than most mainstream garbage.

[@raidermaxx2324]

Wait, so why was the video so painful for you(nail scratching glass) ?

[@chloefowler5732]

I completely agree with you! I am 28 and If anything I see a major resurgence and increased interest in metal and rock music as well. I have also been a life long fan and all through late high school and college, from years 2013-2020 nobody really cared about rock and especially metal and it wasn’t mainstream. I think the nostalgia and interest in 90s grunge and now the resurgence of the scene and emo eras of the 2000s just means we will probably see a big wave of new rock or metal in the next couple of years.

[@ZooPact]

So it's a very interesting time, it's a bit of a catch 22 in some cases, at least for myself as an artist. During the time when I got back in the music after taking a 5-year break, I came back full swing, and as a solo artist under the name I have now ColSeth, who mainly does Alternative Rock/Metal/Grunge/Shoegaze it was both perfect timing (I thought) but also a losing battle. Like I make stuff that would have been perfect, and heck who knows if it had the ears hear it or where it could have gone, but that's neither here nor there. Point is, while we're living in a time where all of that sound is resurging it's all the more difficult, because I'm competing against Legendary icon bands who are blowing up again. So it's like trying to compete with Deftones or Slipknot or something, idc who you are I'm losing that battle 100% of the time, and rightfully so, as I should. They've cemented themselves in the history of Rock forever, but my question is how do I? I've poured more blood, sweat, and tears, passion and my everything into my music especially these last 2 years. Got picked up by a PR team, Mayhem Music Company, have multiple reviews about my album "The Elusive More" from many different Music publications, all very positive and well written. Spent so much time and energy, and money into building a following on all platforms, and in other artists music who are trying, having the opportunity to collaborate with countless fantastic artists, toured and played many shows with bands like Modern Baseball, Title Fight, Tigers Jaw, Glocca Morra just to name a few, and plenty of other accomplishments along the way ect... I don't really care about all of that as a means to my point, but did all the things (at least to the best of my ability) and nothing has come of it really in the end. So where do new artists, or other artists that make great music go to find opportunity, other than the current way which essentially feels like a waiting game of hoping you get blessed by an algorithm, and maybe go viral for a very short lived moment? Not having these types of events or festivals definitely hurts those changes for sure...

[@raidermaxx2324]

@@ZooPact im tellin you, if you wanna know what direction Gen Z is taking "music" in, check out urfavxboyfriend LOL Then IMITATE what he is doing. Instant $$$ internet fame, and success.

[@rogerdiz3520]

I imagine for any new band, coming up with original riffs must be incredibly hard.

[@Doty5151]

As a dad, I'd have to say Ghost is another modern band that is considered dad rock.

[@dvprater314]

As a dad, Ghost is f*&%ing AWESOME!

[@Doty5151]

@@dvprater314 My favorite band! 😍

[@user-id9ou2np8g]

I would rather listen to Nickelback than Ghost. But yes, Ghost is Dad Rock now.

[@sasquanchsmoove3685]

I heard Nirvana on my local classic rock station and it literally hurt my soul. Am I this old now?

[@captainthunderbolt7541]

LOL, I felt that way when I heard Nirvana being played over the loud speakers while doing my grocery shopping.

[@jesseo715]

@@captainthunderbolt7541 Yes. Nirvana is as old to today's high schoolers as The Beatles were to me as a high schooler.

[@rorz999]

Nirvana were already classic rock a decade ago

[@JT-un7dc]

I fist heard them on a classic rock station a few years back.

[@stonecold3697]

The art isn't going away. It's just consumed differently now, and social media, and streaming platforms have ruined how we take in art. Big corporations have ruined the concert goer experiences by pricing out the average fan with overpricing shows, and monopolizing venues. Shows like the old touring Lolla, Warp tour and Ozzfest were really important for seeing new bands, now those are all gone.

[@msw812]

This dad feels exceptionally privileged to have been late teen/early 20’s during arrival and prime of Pantera. CFH show in a bar was gold!

[@cruzguerrero7992]

It's not just rock and metal that are "dad music" it's all "Guitar music"

[@gx1tar1er]

distorted electric guitars, blue scales, "boomer bend", power chords, shred

[@totalrobot]

Those worldly 15 year olds who started the "Dad Rock" phrase will have to endure their philistine children doing the SAME to their beloved computer music.

[@jpvoodoo5522]

Ok. But the computer music is old enough to be dad rock too. Wumpscut, Nitzer Ebb, Front 242, all that rave crap. Trip Hop. NIN.

[@ShadowFlame420]

wow im 27 and i had no idea i’ve been listening to dad rock this whole time

[@jendrizzyy]

got a kid you don't know about?

[@Firnila]

bruh, same

[@liamwade8537]

The way I see it, honestly, is "Who gives a shit?" Unless you're still in high school (literally or metaphorically), why should it matter what's popular and what isn't? As someone in a metal band, my only concern is making sounds that touch people and lyrics that speak to them. Whether or not our sound is "groundbreaking" or "innovative" is not really of any concern to me, nor is changing the world or shocking grandmas to the point of a heart attack. All that matters to me is, as mentioned, making music and writing lyrics that people love. That's not to say we don't experiment with our sound, because we absolutely do (imo that's the best part of creating your own music) but I wouldn't say our main concern is creating something so unique only 4 people in the world "get" it. Mainstream success isn't even in our minds at this moment. We know and accept the state of rock and metal today, and as dudes who went to high school in the mid to late '10s, we know what a majority of kids are into, and it's not gonna be us. But that doesn't matter. Stick to your guns, be real, be authentic, and you will attract the right crowd, small or not.

[@TrueMithrandir]

👏👏👏👏

[@SuperStrik9]

Great comment. Wish you and your band the best 👍

[@Nu.Metal.Kid.99]

I'm 33 yo and I grew up with Nü Metal. I still listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit every day. But I also listen to Sinatra, Whitney Houston, Aaliyah, Elvis, Guns, Blink, Slipknot, Nirvana, DMX, Nas, Wu-Tang, TLC, Aguilera, Eminem, and several other legendary acts, exactly the same way teenagers nowadays also listen to Nü Metal and 90s Gangsta Rap. Because great music is and always will be timeless 🎶♾️

[@Siciliancivilian]

All you had to say was you listen to rock and rap/rnb

[@michaelward5370]

I feel that as you grow older your taste in music grows with you! I feel that you become more willing to give other genres a chance! I listen to all kinds of music, from Sepultura to The Kinks, Guns N Roses to ABBA! I just LOVE music!!

[@Nu.Metal.Kid.99]

@Siciliancivilian I don't think Sinatra, Korn, Aguilera, and Whitney Houston are Rock, Rap or R&B. Some people may not like certain genres, but I think everyone likes great music. That's the one category in which all these artists belong to 👌

[@IssacLHunt]

@@Nu.Metal.Kid.99 ⚠ATTENTION SEEKER ALERT⚠

[@richardpunzalan4347]

@@Nu.Metal.Kid.99same here man..

[@jonathanleblanc6203]

I was listening to All Time Low in the car and my 7yo daughter said to me, "This is such dad music." So, here we are, lol.

[@mattspencer7767]

Shock value doesn't just come from pushing boundaries, but also from creativity. Rock (or any genre) will have its limitations sonically, but creativite potential within those boundaries is basically endless.

[@justinstevens3743]

The way things are going, we might be the last generation to have Dad Rock.

[@QuincyKane]

A very interesting topic; I think you shared some great insights about it! I kinda think the best thing rock and metal can do now is focus on writing good songs, cause good songs seem to transcend genre and have longer staying power.

[@InfectiousGroovePodcast]

I learned to get over labels / how other people referr to certain bands a long time ago. I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks of the music I like or what they choose to call it. All that matters is if I like it or not.

[@vaderladyl]

I so agree. I am impervious to lame labeling. I like what I like.

[@rvds5003]

This is nonsense. Dad Rock was a pejorative term for a certain type of mainstream rock / soft rock from the seventies and early eighties, not a blanket term for all rock being listed to by dads. Nobody ever called the Sex Pistols dad rock back then, even though they came from the same time period. The idea that hardcore is now dad rock is ridiculous.

[@seanstinchfield-mp2xm]

lol my dad loves the Pistols!

[@DadRockAndGuitars]

When songs that were new when I was in high school are now on the classic rock station (does anyone even listen to the radio anymore?), it's officially dad rock.

[@runshouse76]

It's not only this generation that is going through "Dad Rock" I specifically remember it happening around 1991 or so when I was in junior high everyone was going through their parents vinyls Play led Zeppelin ACDC heart Queen deep purple Black Sabbath Ozzy Fleetwood Mac and the doors I specifically remember thinking to myself " I can't believe we're all listening to our parents music and it's great"

[@runshouse76]

Also we did not have the technology and social media that we have today for everyone to share what they were listening to

[@donnystrife1908]

I can confirm as I did this myself lol. I'm 46 so maybe 1992-93 I also listened to dio constantly in elementary school.

[@ThePhl4ever]

Great music is just great regardless of when it was made.

[@b33ft0n6]

The wild thing is kids are also listening to the older bands. This is my first year teaching 9th grade. And almost everytime a student asks me if I like an artist/band, its one that peaked at least 15 years ago lol. Lots of nu metal, grunge, butt rock and emo love it seems lol.

[@matriaxpunk]

Snoop Dog doing a Migos impression has to be my favorite genre of music ever

[@Josh-fh1rm]

I now have a teenage boy and he listens to the exact same stuff that I did at his age. I think you are probably onto something with the idea that rock has run its course. I also think that the internet and widespread availability of any music is a factor. I listened to what I had because it's what I had. Kids today still have that stuff and it's still good stuff. I wonder if creativity is suffering because of the times we live in and people just aren't happy with most new material.

[@Logus57]

It's fascinating to me how the concepts "pissing people off" and "challenging the status quo" have become totally conflated for so many.

[@relyksdjoser6429]

Personally, when warped tour called it quits, the nostalgia acts were the only thing to really pull massive crowds. We don’t have any festivals based on trying to push up and comers because “they aren’t profitable or worth the time”. Bands don’t really blow up anymore, they all have long careers and already built up a good audience before they “blew up over night”. And if we want to shock people and be counter culture in this day and age, you have to be Tom Macdonald and push those narratives.

[@nonamelegend_vapor]

This really made me think. Maybe our current musical landscape is a byproduct of the counterculture, by and large, winning the culture war (or at least having the upper hand). It feels similar to Constantine's Christianization of Rome in terms of "what was once edgy, taboo, tread upon, and/or unsafe is now, while still opposed by some, actively endorsed by the establishment" When what was once considered rebellious becomes safe, it loses its traction with naturally rebellious youth. It can't thrive on being persecuted anymore (which is probably why Tom MacDonald's "countercultural" approach resonates with his fans). This leaves teens who want to "rebel" go either a) the neocon Tom MacDonald route or b) go hard left and find increasingly more niche and defiant political or social subgroups to identify with and fight for acceptance of. Rock moved the establishment more to the center (from the right), and we're seeing the ramifications (not that they're necessarily good or bad on the whole)

[@adeptdamage3669]

Tom MacDonald is the furthest thing from counter culture

[@immortalx50]

@@nonamelegend_vaporah, Constantine's Rome, I remember those times like it was yesterday.

[@pinkribbonskies5731]

New music has kinda been sucking. This is why these older bands are still killing it.

[@modeisin7]

Love how you literally went from zero to “Turnstile in Taco Bell ads” no middle ground I’m here for it.

[@XplusX12345678]

Shout out to Bepop Jazz. The most elitist, and most rebellious genre that never sold out and still is considered underground to this day.

[@benfrank8649]

Hell yeah give me Charlie Parker any day

[@jasonsmith530]

I’m 45, no interest in being a dad, or having a dad bod 😂

[@darrellpasion8925]

Same here.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

I can get behind that. Nobody really wants a dad bod though, it simply happens by itself because of either being lazy or working like a dog. If you have the energy to go to the gym (or work out at home) then you may as well put that energy into making money. The exception is people that don't have to work for a living. No idea what the appeal is of having kids. It's inevitably a big expensive disappointment. Most people will not have three PhDs and a 12,000 square foot mansion, but ESPECIALLY not people who are so simple minded that they think having kids is the ultimate life achievement.

[@krackalgleason4746]

​@@devilsoffspring5519 I hate to tell you but according to nature, reproducing is the point of life. I still totally understand your pov.

[@daryl4841]

​@@devilsoffspring5519 As long as I have enough money to live comfortably I'd rather put spare energy into working out than making even more money. People who just keep working and working and working at the expense of their fitness and health are making a bad choice. Totally agree about having kids though. Overrated.

[@coldsun1187]

Nothing wrong with that but there is also nothing wrong with being a dad.

[@juanramirez-wk8ty]

The problem is with a supposed "culture" that considers "Dad" anything as a negative. Instead of shitting on and dismissing those things that were valued by dads and grand dads etc... those are the very things a strong healthy culture should hold in esteem and respect, it's the the disposable shallow attitudes that flourish today that should be seen as contemptible garbage.

[@vaderladyl]

Preach!

[@julianfair155]

Plot twist, youth culture was always defanged. Rock music is a psyop.

[@benfrank8649]

Jim Morrison's dad was a big part of starting the Vietnam war

[@jasonbates2687]

Things can't continue to evolve forever, eventually there has to be a final form. Maybe we have reached that with rock music.

[@Minder666]

A lot of my young friends (like 20 years younger) are getting into my dad rock, and I love it. Although, I'm very much into the grandpa rock, which they, too, are slowly getting into.

[@jameydunne3920]

I think culture is too fractured due to easy media accessibility to have a new mainstream music. Part of the reason there was "alternative" music was that there wasn't so many ways to get your stuff out to your audience, just a few radio stations and record stores. I think you can become rich and "famous" with music without the mass audience knowing who you are Take Tom McDonald for example. As shocking and polarizing as he can be to some people, he has made a boatload of "top billboard singles" and money, while being virtually unknown to the average radio/ mainstream listener. This kind of success was unthinkable 20+ years ago.

[@JeffWatchesYoutube]

Cruel Curses is a local band in Florida doing some awesome stuff. They have a 36 minute single called Fables, Folklore that doesn't repeat or have "chorus" or stuff like that. They have regular songs too but they're one of the few that I feel isn't just following a formula.

[@satevo462]

The simple answer is there are no top 100 rock bands anymore. Every single person on the top 100 is a solo act. And MGK doesn't count. He is still a solo act.

[@1mlb704]

Some people find "dad rock" to be a negative connotation, but it's not supposed to be. Dave Grohl fully embraced the "dad rock" label that Foo Fighters has now

[@ryanruiz9958]

Dad rock is like 70s AM radio.. Chicago, ELO, Wings..

[@matthewmilano4412]

Something to consider is the recent trend of “genre blends” like you Lil Peep was mentioned. From what I’ve seen this has been becoming more popular (which to me shows the tremendous influence of rock). You have Hardy over in the country scene making waves with his rock influence on The Mocking Bird & The Crow. You also have EDM artists who are incorporating rock into their music. I love what Sullivan King and Excision are doing and just yesterday Marshmello and SVDDEN DEATH released a collab EP that blends EDM and rock and even collab with rock artists such as Crown the Empire.

[@nineinchthread]

You also have Hyperpop which in Spotify is starting to have mini success with a few different artists.

[@caidenanderson7583]

you know it really sucks being young in this generation. As someone who wants nothing more than to be in a famous band, it is so difficult to find people with shared interests as you and even writing your own songs that are original but also appealing is near impossible. All music gear is so expensive too. Nobody makes music like it used to be and now I can see why. Nobody rocks the way it used to be, it's a tragedy. I want to be and/or see a new generation of heavy rockers that will change the world with music more than anything. It's a shame it is the way it is right now.

[@RockSolidKaraoke]

I couldn't find a job after college, couldn't find a girlfriend, couldn't move out, my life was stuck like I was still in high school. I wanted to become a dad but it just wasn't in the cards.

[@MoonOvIce]

Yeah, it blurs time big time. I'm 35 and though I didn't have the exact same issues, I still had a lot of periods without a job in my 20's and recently, was unable to get a career but still got some decent jobs, very unstable. Moved out at 23 and I was already feeling stuck, now I'm 35 but many people my age are already talking like they are my parents or grand parents, "old", while I'm here probably stuck somewhere at 25 or so haha.

[@lewey5456]

as a big fan of hip hop and rock, it is incredibly refreshing to hear somebody acknowledge what modern rap is doing and how it is becoming counter culture. already loved your content, but after this one i definitely love it even more !

[@marinemusaelyan6877]

this genuinely hurts me so much

[@Blackprojex]

Dawg stop calling Turnstile hardcore 😂 if you grew up with hardcore you should know better, they're literally Coldplay or The Fray just with a D-beat. That's not hardcore. Also while you're at it *STOP CALLING SLEEP TOKEN "METAL" TOO*

[@KinseiSensei]

Case and point, my 11 year old’s favorite band is Primus. He says new music sucks and nobody can play well anymore. He plays bass for at least three hours a day. Music may be dead now, but it won’t be forever.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

It happens in waves, music not only comes and goes in style/sound but also in the enthusiasm that people have for it. Social media has kind of displaced music as people's "traveling companion" in life--it's a sign of the times.

[@Poppaea-Sabina]

Smart kid

[@brettburgess5048]

Your son is cool

[@thatonetroll1059]

Kinda sad that rock is going to die like jazz people making rules on what is good or bad music

[@KinseiSensei]

@@thatonetroll1059 I don’t know if it’s people making rules as much as it is the simple fact that the nostalgia band tours are crazy popular and we don’t see much for a new scene. There are of course a few exceptions. Just discovered this new band called Schubmodul and they kick ass.

[@BarriesChannel]

One of the most intelligent, humble and fair music commentators on youtube (and beyond). Talks absolute sense in easy-to-follow points with excellent editing and sublime clip choices. Quality content.

[@chrisgraham3530]

I love how you put Corey Taylor in the forefront of the thumbnail, but yet dont mention Slipknot or Stone Sour 1 time.

[@mightyturkeyneck3498]

Ok, i nearly PISSED my jeans when ya ran the "Freedom Rock" ad clip!! Me'n my high school crony Hacksaw, we'd mock that ad mercilessly! I ain't thought about it since 11th Grade, 1990/91!!! I dunno WHERE ya got that footage, but, WELL DONE, Finn! 🦃🤣🦃🤣🦃🤣🦃🤣🦃🤣🦃🤣

[@gavinmillar]

It isn't dad rock unless it was dad rock when it came out. Music that was marketed to and popular with young people in its day doesn't count as dad rock, no matter how many nostalgic dads still listen to it. That isn't how genres work. There's a little more to it than just the passage of time and taking the name literally. True dad rock has to be music that was dad rock the whole time. Steely Dan, Phil Collins, REM, or these days stuff like The War On Drugs. You can find dads who listen to the Black Eyed Peas, they're never going to be dad rock.

[@SerebiiWarrior]

If Korn and Slipknot are "Dad Rock" now then I guess Led Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones must have moved on to "Grandpa Rock" as a lot of dads today listened to the latter through their dads. Definitely agree on Steely Dan, Collins, etc. embodying the genuine Dad Rock vibe. Though I think The National might take the cake for the most Dad Rock looking band of all time.

[@gavinmillar]

Not gonna lie I reread my comment and I sound like a fucking nerd holy shit. I'm not wrong tho.

[@SMJSmoK]

About the lack of fresh trends and directions: We're perhaps biased to think in terms of the 20th century, during which culture kept transforming extremely quickly, every decade being different from the previous one. But if you look at the history of humanity, such rapid transformations are actually pretty rare (they were obviously fueled by the incredible technological progress). Cultures had always been evolving and changing, but those changes often took decades to manifest, sometimes even centuries. So maybe what we're seeing is just things slowing down again. Perhaps the next major shift doesn't come in the next 10 years, but 30 years...

[@perrodetokio]

Yes. What you say makes a lot of sense.

[@ShinerCCC]

I'm with Ray Kurzweil and think it's the other way around. The history of life is a process of accelerating returns. Those decades long cultural epochs that happened every decade in meatspace, happen every year or month in cyberspace.

[@kotokotfgcscrub]

I think it's other way, changes go faster, but mainstream culture is in hands of huge corporations now playing it safe. As well younger people can now comparetively spend less, so corpos target richer older folks with safe and similar things. Now everything new goes to its niche and rarely gets even close to mainstream.

[@PowerPlantSpots]

I'm surprised that no mention is made of the changes in the music industry, along with the listening habits moving from radio/MTV to streaming. That's the biggest change. Today you have to work hard to find the good stuff, but it's there. I'm 65 and still performing original rock/metal/fusion. I was never influenced by the "culture" surrounding particular music genres, or by trying to piss my parents off with the music I listened to. I actually disliked the bands that used shock and spectacle as a replacement for good songwriting. I was listening to Beatles before I went to kindergarten, then classical music, then Hendrix and Mountain. In the 70's Mahavishnu, Return to Forever, and Zappa. New Wave and Stevie ray in the 80s. In the '00s Mastodon and Children of Bodom. Today I won't pass up a chance to see a good jam band or Cannibal Corpse. I never cared about a breakthrough "style" or genre; I just wanted tohear great musicians doing something original. And it hasn't all been done yet. Pop musicians just stopped trying to be original because record labels didn't want original. Thank God record labels will soon be as dead as dinosaurs.

[@HisFlynessSTU2]

Where would rock even be made now? London/NY in the 70s is over, Berlin in the 80s/90s is over, West Coast 90s/00s is over...I can't think of any environment where rock music would even grow.

[@BrandonHurlesYT]

It’s very concerning to me to not see any massive change or shift to the genre. I mean just 15 years ago, we were still getting new subgenres in rock. We need metal to get offensive and mean again. The youth doesn’t seem to be into metal or rock in the same capacity we were. I find something to love about just every genre, so I’m not in any bubble with music.

[@GreenWaterCartel]

Portal...they are the most original metal band pushing the limits of the genre farther than anyone knew was possible

[@SuffocateMe]

I know it's not hardcore but when deathcore bands came out that stopped with the whole corny melodeath influence and went for being almost nothing but breakdowns (I Declare War and Oceano to name the two biggest examples) I swear I seen a fight happen at every single show that i attended that either of them performed at. The first time i saw IDW was the most fights in a single set ive ever seen, there was a new fist fight for almost every song. i think kids were getting kicked out every five minutes. this was like back in 2012 when IDW were at their peak, and all i remember is when another fight happened Jamie Hanks was like "I WANT MORE I WANT MORE VIOLENCE", i think the fact that the venue was small didnt help to stop that aggression either since everyone was barely elbow room next to each other the entire time

[@casualzachgaming5801]

Lol one of the better concert fights I've seen just happened last summer.... At an Oceano show 🤣😂🤣😂

[@rorz999]

Any excuse to talk about emo rap 😂

[@user-ov6zy2dh4d]

The thing to take away here is called "phases" each style waxes and wains; what is here today is gone tomorrow, in decade-long phases. Corresponding to a person's life; he/she discovers a sound they find in adolescence rarely changes as the music they will listen to for the rest of the person's life. Some people are refined enough to go through phases as well and basically listen to everything. I did and will do forever. music is music. Thanks dad

[@kenobibryant1637]

Whenever I hear something new that I don't like, I ask myself, "has the music changed? Or have I changed? "

[@Capnsensible80]

Both. And if neither have changed, it's indicative of a serious problem.

[@floatyjam]

If blink-182 and the Killers are already considered "dad rock", I don't even want to know what bands like REM or the Replacements equal to

[@SayHelloToTheRobots]

Granddad rock probably

[@BoomMC_Inc]

The ancestors?

[@Matt92Machine]

Boomer rock I'd call them.

[@burtleturtle0012]

I think the biggest things killing innovation in music are labels and producers, they dictate the artists instead of letting them create and leave true talent feeling like going mainstream isn't worth sacrificing creative control.

[@sawyer_Benton]

I feel like Finn has made this video 10 times now

[@mrgregw]

Making money as a new artist has become a lot harder since streaming took over and the record stores died. It's become harder to stand out, I've heard. People have access to entire catalogs of music.

[@arpaddanos9416]

In the 90s tons of people were into Floyd and Zeplin. I don't think Gen Z is into them as much and the old stuff they like has shifted forward by 20-30 years. They are also listening to a ton of new stuff that is making headway.

[@gx1tar1er]

What about Queen and Wayne's World?