What The Other Side Really Means! (Tales from the SMP: The Pit Recap/Theories)

[@jesuslovesyou8404]

Theory: From one of Foolish’s streams, we learned that Foolish has some kind of superhuman abilities, as he can create lightning. He also said that he used to be a totem of death. Finally, when the Egg speaks to him, he can understand it as normal English, instead of the usual distorted reversed language it speaks. This last point suggests that Foolish and the Egg have some shared backstory. Also, the Otherside looks very deathly. Maybe Foolish wrote the Otherside books. Maybe Foolish even ran the Otherside, and by travelling, Karl has found part of Foolish’s forgotten history (Foolish confirmed that his character was very old)

[@shyrasamiraki]

Ranboo could understand the egg too

[@gabzyyyy7256]

Wait this is a good theory!

[@Itzmia_duh]

Since foolish said his character was old and so this phil could they have met before

[@ItsAshlxy]

Wait, so.. is Puffy very old to- or adopted.

[@aster_11]

Ok here's my theory. In Quackity cover of Visiting Dream there was a wither rose. Recently he seems to be mad at Karl, crossing him out first, not putting his voice as something he missed. What if Quackity got the info of the revival book from Dream and used it for power. What if he controls the inbetween. Also that means :] this smile would make sense bc that's his face on his minecraft character. Dream's is :) so it makes more sense that it's quackity

[@smptheory4933]

Wow that’s a really good theory!

[@tonylya]

he is mad because he didn't invite him to the karlnap meeting /j

[@dankdragon1983]

Wow insane theory

[@lilypurr5471]

I think that fundy could somehow connect to this as well, being when he got trapped in his dream dimension and all the books he wrote to himself, the sull and blood in the place the book was kept, and at the end of the stream :] and casino sounds possibly referencing quackitity and Las Nevadas. The figure called he looked a lot like bad if I'm right and the egg is a physical representation of the inbetween(in a form bad would be more likely to trust, something seemingly feeble, something that needs to be protected[an egg] while it could weave itself into his mind to find what it could use to manipulate him.) I think the piece of fundy was at some point in the inbetween and possibly saw a timeline were fundy joined bad and horrible things happened, somehow this piece of fundy that witnessed this timeline became aware of the true nature of the inbetween and intentions of the egg. When the being running the inbetween or the inbetween itself realized that this piece of fundy knew it was to late and he had somehow... running of space will continue. It's 1 am

[@lilypurr5471]

Left the books in a way that they could not be removed, I believe this piece of fundy by becoming aware was somehow made aware he could change the inbetween, if the inbetween is outside of time and seemingly all known reality as far as the rest of the server would be considered it. If it is truly not real or outside of reality anyone could manipulate it if they were made aware they had the ability too, if the place fundy gets trapped in is also as said and not real but still exists it could be assumed it is outside of all known reality and anything from the inbetween could pass there. I think when the piece of fundy became aware the inbetween was aware he knew he didn't have much time so he created Fundy's dream dimension so he could warn fundy against joining bad and the egg, and to escape the inbetween but this he was allowed to pass within this dimension as a result of the aforementioned lack of reality in both dimensions. I believe the piece of fundy created the books to warn fundy all while warding off this he figure who was hunting the piece of fundy down and ultimately killed the piece of fundy in the temple with the book.

[@RetralOfficial]

My theory is that the Inbetween tries so hard to be a place of high and unreachable ideals by being beautiful and pristine to disguise its true intentions. The Other Side on that note likely signifies the harsh and cruel reality. I also can make connections with Foolish's lore and the Egg being related to the Inbetween. Foolish mentioned that he was a Totem of Death, and in his streams he was the only one to understand the voice of the Egg in normal English. What if, Foolish was a guardian or a herald of the Other Side, but is now retired on the SMP where he is now seen and does not use his powers anymore? What if the side that is absolutely good is called "The Only Side" and the side that is based on death and absolutely evil would make sense to be called "The Other Side", as they are opposites. The good and evil could have been in a conflict for centuries, maybe even going as far as to use the Inbetween as their testing ground for their power. It is strange how the Other Side changes Karl's skin to black, it might mean that it is trying to use him too, just not with manipulative books. It could have been a temptation in the Inbetween for Karl to trust it and used the portal to drag him in. People have referenced Hannah's roses all being gone after the corruption by the Blood Vines, and only white flowers remained. We know that white tulips are a symbol of the Other Side. Maybe the Other Side or its creators formed a plan to unleash the Egg, which would explain as to why Foolish is able to understand it and why it spared the white flowers. I liked this video a lot, points to many great theories!

[@smptheory4933]

Wow thanks for this theory! All of that makes a lot of sense I think you could be onto something!

[@L-and-P]

This theory has some merit, but you have to remember the egg sucks red out of objects, leaving them white. So maybe the egg just sucked the color out of the flowers and actually has no connection to the other side/only side/inbetween.

[@fruityfish513]

When we met Ran, I thought the way Ran talked to Karl was odd for a Stranger to Stranger interaction. How Ran talked to Karl made me think that Ran knows him, and the way Ran talked seemed... fond?? Also there was a odd number of people- so I feel like Ran was there specifically for Karl, and I have a feeling it was maybe to check on him? make sure he was okay? I'm kinda thinking Ran may care for Karl, and was keeping a eye on him. (Like maybe Ran had been searching for Karl and eventually found him?) Small edit: I feel like c!Karl is not human, and that he's from the in between or the other side (im thinking the other side) and maybe c!Karl's first language is 'galactic' or the enchantment table language, but he's so used to english that it automatically turns to english in his head?

[@kisu_1919]

I also theorized a month ago about Ranboo's connection to the in between on my reddit! :D I think Ranboo started as "Ran" but then he got stuck in the In between and forgot who he was but still managed to leave before he was fully corrupted. What if he was a time traveller before but forgot everything about it and changed his name..? I feel like Ran is Ranboo but the one that didn't trust in between and left before he was even corrupted. Since we know that Ranboo is easily manipulated and convinced that he's not going to get hurt (because he's literally so spineless lol) so he probably trusted the In between and that caused his corruption on that timeline.

[@Eldritch_TeddyBear]

Then ranbob could be the one intermediate

[@TheoTheGhost]

This makes so much sense, but then what would Ranbob be? Because he have more white in his head than Ranboo

[@haleylightcake4844]

I’ve always had a theory and now it feels more apparent. My theory has been Ranboo writes both books, one side opposing the other. The main author is Ranboo controlled by Dream. Because it’s Ranboo, he doesn’t use the typical :) but :] because that’s what Ranboo usually uses. When Ranboo can control himself he doesn’t remember writing those books, so he writes books and hides them around the castle. I’m quite new to theories, so there may be some plot holes.

[@crickit78]

i really like the theory that ranboo had been a time traveler as i noticed that he has been involved in every tales episode making me think if there could be a connection that at least a part of ranboo traveled with karl on these journeys

[@Kavilion_]

I was also thinking when you said about the write roses. I found this on google: 'White has always been a symbol of purity, innocence and in some cases, chastity, and for roses, it is no exception. For that reason, white roses are often given at weddings and other ceremonial occasions like christenings and graduations. However, white roses can also be given as a sign of respect or remembrance' I think that the other side is good too. I also want to point out that white doves are a sign of peace. This could be the 'dilusion' the in-between was trying to portray. White flags mean surrender. This is probab;y what happened to the other karl's. The in-between told them to stay with them and don't stray off the path, like threat we say when Karl saw that room with blood and that sign. They could have surrendered to this and stayed with them or it. The In-between might also be desprerarte for Karl to stay with them so he doesn't turn evil and as innoceont as the other side sounds and talks, it may also be a way to manipulate Karl and gain his trust. The egg does a simlar thing. In the comment section for your egg video, someone saw a video on how tommy isn't immune to the egg and how that it trying to make him think he is immune to it so he wont woory about it adn spend less time with it. He then will come to love the egg. This could also be the secret of the dimensions Also I found this on google too, I searched symbols of the white colour and came up with this: purity, virginity, innocence, light, goodness, heaven, safety, brilliance, illumination, understanding, cleanliness, faith, beginnings, sterility, spirituality, possibility, humility, sincerity, protection, softness, and perfection.

[@0bI1v1on]

I think 'safety' and 'protection' are the most intresting out of these words since the inbetween likes talking about how it is a safe place.

[@Kavilion_]

@@0bI1v1on yes yes, true true. Great pick up

[@ACletto]

The egg is like the funniest part of the dream smp like how do you get manipulated by a child no baby that hasn't even been born yet.

[@catherinetyndale1734]

While I like the idea that one of the writers in Ranboo's ARG could be controlling the Inbetween, he has started that the Enderwalk ARG is a separate story that helps explain an aspect of Ranboo's character and that it's separate from the main story.

[@jesuslovesyou8404]

The Third Author Theory Theory: the Inbetween castle is apparently ever-changing and growing, and some of the books he reads aren’t there to begin with - they appear during his visit. They also only appear when he isn’t looking, like the second time he came out from under the tree. This firstly suggests that whoever is placing these books doesn’t want to be seen. Also, one of the last books said “*we* will stop you” (or words to that effect) - where is this second entity coming from? And where is it now? I think whoever is placing the books is not the same as the person writing them, at least not all of them. I think the first entity, who places all of the books, is like a servant, given the task of greeting visitors and making sure they don’t stray from the path. (They also act as the Inbetween’s eyes and ears, and they report back after Karl leaves.) But some of the books appear to have been placed spontaneously, as a response to something Karl has done - and importantly, these books don’t have the :]. I think, whenever a new version of Karl arrives in the Inbetween, the Inbetween already has all of their encounters planned, and can communicate with Karl through books that have been written a long time ago, and get placed at the right time. (Think about it - when the same guy keeps arriving on your doorstep, and you want them to stay permanently, you would make a plan that you can follow every time they arrive) Finally, I think about the line ‘it can’t see you down here’. The ‘it’ is very probably the castle, but if this other author knew about the Inbetween’s ‘eyes and ears’ then they would have said, ‘*they* can’t see you down here’. The second author was right - the castle cannot see Karl under the tree. But it’s servant can see everything Karl does. And the servant, who doesn’t want to be seen, responded by hiding their own message under the tree, that he would find the next time he went down there Edit: I think phrases like ‘don’t be silly :]’ are kinda like a signature of the Inbetween, and don’t mean much when their alone on a page

[@pastelcat879]

WHY DOES NO-ONE ELSE SEE THE BADBOYHALO FACE THAT FLASHES IN THE CORNER WHEN HE GOES THROUGH THE PORTAL

[@XX-qf6jj]

Okay another theory So the other side has a lot of blocks similar to the egg, what if the egg is how you get to the other side. In one of the tales of the smp episodes one of the characters was feeding people to the egg, what if the egg was taking those people to the other side it wasn’t feeding people to hurt them but protect them from the in between. I not sure if I remember correctly but the in between brings you back there whenever it pleases so karl is able to time travel but only if the in between allows it, so that means the in between has all the power and manipulating karl with saying he has power and showing him a beautiful White Castle and using sweet words to keep him there. So the egg mind controls people to protect it and keep it alive so it can fight back the in between(??) I honestly don’t know what I’m on about but it makes sense to me lmao

[@MayawireCH]

Wow, this video is really interesting! Also, thank you so much for the shoutout! Based on this, it seems like the Inbetween and the Other Side are somehow connected, but also totally opposite. From the names, you can guess that they would be connected somehow--the Inbetween connects the normal world to the Other Side. This also fits with this video, because it seems like the Inbetween is the only way to get to the Other Side. But somehow, they're also opposites. The Inbetween is all white, whereas the Other Side is black and crimson. The Inbetween is trying to get Karl to stick to the path, whereas the Other Side is trying to get him to leave it. I think that this concept of being connected while simultaneously opposite seems a lot like Ranboo's character. His two sides are connected in the same person, but they're opposite in terms of how they act and stuff. So that seems to support your theory of Ranboo being connected to the Inbetween and the Other Side (or maybe even controlling both of them)

[@iamhereorsmth]

I don't know if you take requests but, could you do a theory about the lost city of mizu? For me there's more then just ranboo's descendant

[@smptheory4933]

Yeah! I'll probably incorporate it more into a lot of new episodes since it's got a lot of interesting stuff to cover!

[@iamhereorsmth]

@@smptheory4933 thank you :) , and about the messeges maybe try swapping letters (im sorry if it doesn't make sense)

[@lacunae5194]

Does anyone else think it might be an alternate version of dream-ranboo, because if it is him, it would explain why he differs from dream, like the smile, another thing, randoo has had contact with the egg before, could it be that the dream fragment in ranboo’s mined found the source of its power, and decided to take it for him self, but take that with a grain of salt I’ve just been connecting things that I’ve seen

[@L-and-P]

For some reason, I imagined some gag with ranboo being a builder of the arena, and him messing up horribly. I also thought that he would have a oddly modern name such as mike, tying into a little bit of the lore that ranboo is related to Karl and possibly time travel.

[@Mad_Rabbit69]

If Dreamons aren’t involved in some manner I will be very upset ✨

[@Eldritch_TeddyBear]

I have heard that word before do you have any suggestions on were to find lore on the dreamons

[@XX-qf6jj]

I was actually thinking about dreamons before and so Dream right, he’s just a human with no powers whatsoever (as far as we know) except he is able to manipulate (and revive the dead now) but back when ranboo was hearing dreams voice “Dream” kept saying it was his own mind and not Dream talking so I’m thinking when ranboo starts enderwalking it isn’t Dream that’s controlling him it’s a Dreamon (and Dream could be a Dreamon but Tubbo and Fundy did their ritual thing soo) what if when ranboo went to go see Dream in prison that time ranboo was ender walking and a dreamon changed his vision and twisted dreams word into making it look like Dream got out. What if dreamons power is to manipulate the host into thinking their worst nightmares are coming true so like ranboo it’s afraid of Dream a dreamon can take that and frighten ranboo making him more vulnerable. Honestly I don’t know this is just word vomit so yeaaaa

[@Mad_Rabbit69]

@@Eldritch_TeddyBear both fundy and tubbo have fully uploaded their Dreamon streams on both their TubboLive and FundyLive channels

[@Eldritch_TeddyBear]

@@Mad_Rabbit69 thank you

[@zupernova2959]

Theory: If Dream is controlling the Inbetween and Ranboo is a time traveler who lost himself, Dream controls him with his :) smiley face. the reason the author (Dream) uses the bracket smiley face in the books with Karl is because, potentially, while Ranboo was in the Inbetween, the author (Dream) used the :) smiley face which eventually became the code to control Ranboo. the Author (Dream) is using the bracket smiley face to try and turn that into the code that controls Karl. what do you think?

[@smptheory4933]

That’s a super interesting theory! I really like it!

[@megangrant4124]

On the second symbol message, my mind kept saying that it said, ”Where are you going?” And that the first one said, “follow the path.” I have no idea if it’s true, or just my head giving lore to something, but I’m somewhat able to understand written gibberish. So that’s something

[@lilsthethrills3715]

I think when ranboo is in enderwalk he is writing book in the in between and time travelling for dream so that’s why he looses memory

[@beanieowo3497]

the quality of this video is great

[@smptheory4933]

Thank you!

[@0bI1v1on]

But lets be honest are we even surprised at this point? All her videos have such an amazing quality!

[@oldgachavideosofyarawalker2502]

There's a little bit weird is going, but remember Karl always comes back from his timetravels, and from The Inbetween? Like series called "After the tales"? does it means he can't comeback to his home and stuck in that dimension?

[@jesuslovesyou8404]

WHY DID I NOT REALISE THIS EARLIER- the Egg speaks reversed English On an unrelated note, did you know that most of the in game enderman sounds are just reversed, distorted English

[@jesuslovesyou8404]

Ranboo has also shown that he can understand the egg, along with foolish and the Eggpire

[@lilyofluck371]

Ranboo had said that dream has never actually taken control of Ranboo. The other version of him is basically his subconscious.

[@Kavilion_]

I also wanted to say now that I have recently re-watched the Lord of The Rings series and I picked up that some of the people wearing white were the kind-of 'evil' people, currupted by the eye. Gaundauf went to visit his friend, dressed in white, he was fallen to the eye. Again, in the second Movie, the Elf was corrupted, the one that said "look into the mirror." It could just be a coincedence or it could just be the directors use of symbolism. I think with Ranboo, the white side is the side taken by Dream. It seems with Dream, when he exiled Tommy, he was trying to controll him, just like the egg and the Inbetween with Karl. I also thought to myself that, what if the inbetween was just a Hallucination. The path that Karl is following seems very similar to the one in L'manburg and Dream SMP. The area with the tree could be the main portal in the server. I also saw in another video that Fundy was stuck in a dream or 'nighmare' (I didn't finish that video because I had to go do something) , and from what I watched, I feel it had a symbol or something, like a clue to something. Here is link to video, see if you can pick something up: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ6tnoaJgM58e5o

[@sandjgaez257]

I would say that there is about a 65% chance that the Other Side is good, a 30% chance that both the Inbetween and the Otherside are bad, and only a 5% chance that the Inbetween is good and the Otherside is bad. Also, I hope that Ranboo isn’t related in some way to the Inbetween or the Otherside. It’s not because I dislike him, it’s just that I don’t want him to get too caught up in lore and I want the Tales From the SMP to be its own thing and not _directly_ relate to current events as they happen.

[@0bI1v1on]

I watched like 3 other theory videos yesterday waiting for this one to come out but none of them were as good as yours! Anyway I saw another theory that I thought was interesting about the inbetween and how it continuously switches into this darker form. So the person making that theory video said that the inbetweens light amd innocent looking side might be just an illusion and the darker side its glitching to is what the inbetween actually looks like.

[@smptheory4933]

Thank you! And wow that’s a really interesting theory to think about!

[@Micia.]

From this "we" the first thing that came to my mind is that in stories god always says about himself in third person. "the author" may think of himself as a god a person that has too many power for normal human and he could just talk about himself.

[@mulberry_joy]

Here’s a small theory The inbetween has a wither rose as its main flower, like the darkness in a perfect world. The other side has a white tulip as its flower, hope in a dark world. What if the inbetween was like the other side, and the other side like the inbetween? (I’m making some of this up as I go sorry lol) What if Ran(?) was fighting the light in the past other side, and Boo(?) fighting the darkness in the inbetween, both of them leaving a little bit of light/darkness in each world I’m not really sure lol- Edit: thought of Ranboo lore/backstory, what if when the egg was talking to ranboo, it was talking to his sides? Ran, the traitor, Boo, can’t trust himself (Ran) or anyone else. What if the egg is trying to warn Ranboo? It’s very unlikely, but it could be trying to say that there’s something bigger coming, maybe connected to the egg?

[@crazyconstellations2532]

18:54 "definitely something to look at" nope, not lookin' at da enderboi

[@RainyDay-]

Theory: Ran made the other side and a mystery character(probably named boo) made the in between. Ran did say “I’ll see you again” when he was knocked out, maybe he was talking to Karl and maybe he was the one to lead Karl to the portal away from the in between.

[@shanecostanzo3830]

Your videos are really improving! Can't wait for the next one

[@smptheory4933]

Thank you!

[@IWasNeverCool]

Congrats of 500+ subs!!! 🥳

[@smptheory4933]

Thank you so much!

[@tandearlmaximevallejos6942]

I feel like both of the sides think the Karl is safe in their perspective. But what if Karl does not think both paths are safe. Beside it all plays with Karl choice. It depends on what he believes in. If Karl does not think both are safe why not create his OWN path, like making his own light within the darkness. The Inbetween is like a safe heaven where you feel like you can rest and let go of things but also it seems to have dark side with a dash of changing Karl mindset. The Other Side seems to be gloomy but feels like home. Like going through the Good and Bad memories while the other side is forcing Karl to change his mindset the Other side seems to let Karl be freely and try to make him feel a lil comfortable.

[@ayesick.]

I really love these theories! They are amazing and they keep the community active and I think you are a great KZbinr with great ideas!

[@smptheory4933]

Thank you so much!

[@willwh9228]

I think there is probably one more dimension. The inbetween name suggest that it's well in between two things and the other side sounds like it is one half of something. So i think their might be onr unseen dimension left. This could possibly link up to the end maybe. After all if you count dream xd as canon then you have a separate godlike entity that uses smile faces and wants order.

[@sarahouma466]

Quackity May learned from Dream how to enter dreams and minds

[@cupids_aro7505]

That makes so much sense!

[@scottstewart6190]

Jevil’s song in the back gran and undertail lol😂

[@ACollision]

I feel like there's a lot of these but.... THATS JUST A THEORY! A GAME THEORY!!!

[@_The.Painted.Rose_]

After watching your theory and your mention of your ranboo theory of being corrupted by the inbetween has caused me to come of my own and i want to share it with you. the theory I have is a theory built off of your own ranboo and the in between theory, like you mentioned in your theory it could be possible that ranboo was a time traveler who some how ended up in the in between and almost got corupted by it but ended up escaping and that is why he is half enderman and half "white thing"(I don't exactly know what to call his white half :`D) and that it could be what "causes" his enderwalking state, and as I do also believe that this could be true I think that it could be possible that maybe ranboo never fully escaped the in between and even though he may not visit it anymore the in between takes Ranboo's memories from him and causes the memory loss, I personally believe that this could be possible since Karl seems to have his own memory problems that seem to be caused by the in between, and thats about it for my theory :D

[@Despair17]

I believe that dream is the writer of the book he knows about the abilities that the characters have and he's also a demigod

[@_tayrdpotato7028]

thank god this vid has subtitles

[@CrazyCorvid]

I belive that Ran is Ranboo, his memory loss may be because of the time travel and so may the white part be, he was also the only one that didn't die in the pit. I belive that Dream has made some kind of deal with the egg that allows him to control Ranboo since i think the other side is part of the egg and I also think Ranboo got stuck in the inbetween but somehow found the portal and got taken over by the egg in the other side. Remember Ranboo isn't human so I think that time traveling had a weird impact on him which turned him into half something else or perhaps even half inbetween. I think that Ranboo is the one telling Karl not to stick to the path while under the influence of the egg and that Karl or Ranboo is the one saying to stay on the path, I belive that the egg is manipulated the image of the inbetween, I dont trust the inbetween to be good but I belive that the other side is being controlled by the egg and that will try to get Karl under it's control. Ranboo also had a wither rose next to his bed which can be associated with the inbetween.

[@joshmontes4867]

I think the in-between is evil it is trying to get Karl to stay there and lose himself in that place while the other side is trying to help karl also just a little fact the song that he played when he was in the other side was called dearly beloved but evil

[@sakj-k1918]

OMG I JUST HAD A THEORY! It would make more sense the thing you said about Ranboo being a time traveler! Because of the weird smile in the inbetween, Ranboo, he doesn't remember, but, gets triggered with the ":)". It reminds him to the inbetween and it makes him 'enderwalk' but what if the enderwalk is just a way he calls a inbetween state? Like the other karls, they are just wondering around, they've lost themselves. Maybe that's why the ":)" triggers Ranboo??? Idk it was just a thought (I don't even know if I explained myself well xD)

[@100madmic]

really good theories.

[@smptheory4933]

Thank you!

[@Dance_lover88]

I wish we had more Tales of the SMP

[@raegreene4793]

I am going to add on a personal theory on to this I think the in between is quackity and the other side is sapnap. it’s not far fetched here is why. Of course you didn’t know this cause this lore wasn’t out. But Recently if you’ve seen quackity lore, he manipulates purpled fundy and Charlie the exact same way that the in between manipulates Karl by making them feel safe and using them. He says it in that tweet that he feels like he knows it but can’t put his finger on it maybe that’s why. It’s someone he knows but of course from all the time travel and Karl forgetting he forgets quackity. It’s evident in the lore. Sapnaps is a bit more difficult because he never directly does much personal lore. And if he has it’s been more anti climatic and more with others lore. however you did mention the egg and how we can’t exactly trust it and that’s fair cause the egg lore we see them mind control bad but we never fully saw the end of the egg lore and Bad is canonically both Sapnaps father and a demon it wouldn’t be far fetched to say the connection isn’t there. Especially cause Karl feels more safe with sapnap then with quackity Also I wanted to point out something you missed which you may not know if you aren’t into Kingdom Hearts. but the only scenes that don’t have the kingdom hearts music is the running scene. however the music for the Inbetween is Dearly Beloved but evil Referencing the character of Vantias. And the other side is ventus themed, To me Quackity remind me of vanitas slowly getting corrupt while sapnap reminds me while heartly of Ventus. Two coins of the same side one evil and one good destined to always be Apart.

[@Valo_www]

I think the egg is in control of the other side which means that the inbetween and the other side are pretty much evil but I kinda see the egg as a Half evil and half good type of thing because who knows maybe the egg was cursed and just can't control its vines and its influence or just plain out evil.

[@lolbeech]

Awesome vid! I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this but Tommy has had no character in the tales episodes. I definitely think Tommy’s character is more than we currently know 😂 and I think the ones speaking to Karl from the inbetween and the other side are more godlike figures. The egg maybe? I definitely think the egg has more to do with this then we think 🤔

[@smptheory4933]

Thank you! And yeah that is really interesting! The egg is definitely super suspicious so I think it’s connected to all this too

[@acacia9134]

Do you think you might be able to do a complete recap of the entire series?

[@smptheory4933]

Yes I am planning to make one!

[@gabzyyyy7256]

I was rewatching that video and I saw the other side and I was like what if this were the egg came from can it some how found bbh and bbh helped the egg leave the other side or maybe even the in between?

[@Eldritch_TeddyBear]

I am still thinking that the in-between is not good it often said that this is a peace safe place but then threatenens and yells at karl to not stray from the path

[@Arthen1]

You deserve so many more subscribers 💀

[@smptheory4933]

aww thanks!

[@Solarpunk_SciFi]

Did you just say that that language could have something to do with the egg!?!? Well, DekoyZ recently made a video on this, stating, that the egg long ago created and now owns the other side, giving time travelers a safer pathway thru time, in exchange for some of their energy, and the in between sucks out ALL of their energy, till they become mindless husks wandering around the castle till the end of times!

[@swibsubswab]

Ok so idea: So you know that in the yin-yang symbol, yin is feminine and yang is masculine. The 2 are never “good or bad”. Maybe this ties in into the inbetween (haha alliteration go brr) and the other because in the other side, we see a white rose. In the yin, we see a black swirl and a spot of white. Like the white rose in the other side. In the yang, we see a swirl of white and a spot of black, just like the wither rose in the inbetween. Maybe, the other side is the one with more freedom, and the inbetween is the one with restrictive rules and to ‘stay on the path’. This also ties in with another person’s theory.

[@randomperson1879]

I WAS THE 800th SUB FINALLY I HAVE NEVER DONE THAT!

[@smptheory4933]

Omg that’s awesome thank you!

[@tytydino]

Ok so I know this was 6 months ago but I'd just like to say that if you know kingdom Hearts the in between is kinda based off castle oblivion in which Sora loses his memories and the person who takes his memories is being forced to take said memories wich knowing that karl is losing his memories is weird and the other side reminds me of twilight town which is like it says twilight not good not evil somewhere in between... Also the other side looks like the realm of darkness but it seems good but that's weird cuz the realm isn't good (well as much as we know) but the ranboo theory makes me think of a mixture of a nobodie and a heartles cuz castle oblivion as castle oblivion is taken over by org Xlll and the org is made of nobodies but I have a different idea when a person in the kh world is taken over by darkness/loses their heart (accept for a few acceptions) they become a nobody and a heartless but if the person has a strong heart there nobody & heart less will look like then just WITHOUT their memories and when the heartless and nobody are taken out they will become a normal person but what if you didn't take out the heartless and nobody but fuse them somehow they'd constantly be loosing their memories cuz they aren't a whole person but just a semi person and obviously ranboo isn't a heartless nor a nobody (well maybe not that one) but we know he's at least part ender man so ????? Idk just spit balling also the ender walking could just be a different part of him takes over like instead of his ender man / heartless side his nobody side takes over

[@blazingpheonix84]

BOOM i was the 1000th subscriber! POG

[@Javiersss]

Haven't watched the vid but yes

[@culperson_]

So, obviously Wilbur has learned a lot from staying in Limbo. Does Wilbur know anything about Karl? Obviously Wilbur wants the storyline to kind of get going, so Karl’s secret will most likely come out soon. I’m just speculating but who knows-

[@butler5349]

Maybe if you rearrange the letters from the hidden messages will you get what they were trying to say? (I'm too lazy to do it myself plus I'm not that good at it this is just an idea of what it could be)

[@that0neghxst]

I have a small(ish) theory about ranboo... Ranboo half endermen half //??\\ we know Ran is canon and is endermen(?most likely) and Boo(technically they're still a theory but pretend they're canon) is something. What if Ran was made in the other side and Boo was made in the in-between. Idk just thought that'd be cool. Edit: ((maybe ranboo coming to be was Ran and Boo meeting then mixing themselves together creating ranboo and giving him memory loss to keep his mind from over thinking everything. Giving him the ability to re-wire his morals))

[@Dssr121]

What if like you said that ranboo escaped the in between and got to the other side and since no one is there ranboo time traveled and Karl escapes so maybe in another tales smp that version of ranboo is there every time Karl time travels

[@XX-qf6jj]

I just had a thought what if the in between is just a place in karls mind or a dream, in fundys lore stream there were some interesting pages the spoke about a few things that had been said in the inbetween like “dont stray from the path” or “go to the portal” and “wake up” its all a dream thats why fundy wants himself to wake up and so does karl thats why he places secret books around to convince himself that its just a dream what if only karl can see the inbetween but sometime in the future more of the smp members can go or even to the otherside maybe in the future it will be revealed because I believe dream once said that everyones stories with connect somehow Maybe karl dreams of a safe haven for him to just relax after a time travel but there’s something there (the author of the wither rose author) that is evil Fundy dreams of a empty place with no one but he still remembers the past, things that made him feel something very strongly. The black figure is probably like karls main author And i havent seen all of georges stream so i cant say anything about it so thats it

[@alodlrs]

Hi, one question can u explain the lore plis? I really don’t understand it and u help me understand karl tales :D

[@smptheory4933]

Hi! I am planning on maybe making a video going over all of the lore in the future so hopefully, that will help! Thanks for watching!

[@alodlrs]

@@smptheory4933 omg thank u! It would be a helpful video :)

[@schoolaccount3048]

Have you tried maybe bring them in holding things and it is it might be trouble coded

[@alexalol6498]

Could the random gibberish messages be a code like based 64 or something like that?????

[@sagefeather]

We see that the books say "stick to the path" There's many paths to navigate the castle, yet is says "the path," which I take as one "pesific path" As we see in a later on, karl takes a pesific path to end up at the otherside. Is the in-between involved with those two events?

[@Achlyz.]

Theory: I think it’s like yin and yang like the in between is completely white with wither roses (which is black) I think the wither rose indicates yangs eye and then there is the other side which is black with white tulips which indicates the eye. And you know how you say that yang is the evil one even tho it’s fully white because of it’s black eye and yin is the good one because of it’s white eye. so I acutely think the other side is good and the in between is evil

[@shella.a3061]

Can you like talk about harpocrates someday just like this theory where it feels like it can simply put to a fact but it still feels slightly wrong. As we know harpocrates is a god of secret and silent so its probably mean its a character thats not really open or known yet. I gather some characters that could possibly be harpocrates (callahan, connor, fundy, hannah, puffy, tommy(?), or even george) as callahan and connor is a big possiblity hannah and puffy are not(?) as techno identify harpocrates as a "he" (and why i said fundy because harpocrates father, osiris come back to life after being murdered which can relate to fundys story) (harpocrates can also associated as a child or childlike just like tommy but its unlikely that its him since almost everyone in the syndicate hates him) (and gogy... Come on hes just soooo suspicious and i kinda want his lore)

[@smptheory4933]

Yeah I really like your thoughts and I would love to make a theory all about it soon!

[@L-and-P]

Maybe there’s some lesser known youtuber called harpocrates that is joining the smp soon. It makes sense that he would be saying “He wishes to be called harpocrates” if the character isn’t in the smp yet, because if he just said “harpocrates is joining the syndicate” nobody would understand him.

[@shella.a3061]

@@L-and-P could be.. But i doubt that, harpocrates is just a code name andd whats funny is their code name very much resemble the character (technoblade's code name is protesilaus a greek warrior in the trojan war that famous for his death which can mean its foreshadowing techno's first death in the smp, and philza's codename is zephyrus which is a god of the west wind i dont know much about zephyrus but zephyrus does have wings, ranboo's code name is lethe a greek spirit of forgetfulness and oblivion also one of five river in the underworld, niki's code name is nemesis goddess of revenge who hated arrogance and selfish human (tommy ig(?)) and the last one is harpocrates) yea i think harpocrates is just a code name but surely it somehow relate or resemble the hidden characters AND GEORGE IS NOW JOINING THE LORE GAME AND IM EXCITED

[@L-and-P]

Yes, it is unlikely, but I looked it up and found out that there IS a youtuber named harpocrates that plays Minecraft, granted he’s not that popular but wouldn’t it be cool if it was a whole other person coming

[@shella.a3061]

@@L-and-P THAT WOULD BE AWESOME THANK YOU FOR FOR THE INFORMATION

[@rayb1962]

Random Theory/Thought: "The inbetween" is a kind of middle ground, hence its name "The Inbetween". On the other hand the other side is the fully other location, hence the name "The Other Side". Now I don't really know where I'm going with this or if im just overthinking, but what exactly is "The Other Side" the other side of? If there is an "Other Side" and an "Inbetween" then what is the original side, because the "inbetween" has to be an in-between 2 things right? Basically what I'm saying is what is the other side to "The Other Side", could it just be the SMP or is it another dimension that we haven't learned of yet? (Maybe im just overthinking but I just thought I'd share in case anyone has a theory on this loll).

[@john-xn8od]

since you mentioned multiple timelines what if both sides are made by karl and the other side was made by a rebel karl and the inbetween was made by the first karl? what if they both have extreme ideologies and goals and can't accomplish them without a karl?

[@0bI1v1on]

Again doesnt really have anything to do with this but I wanted to ask if you could do something about the red banquet that bad and antfrost are inviting people to because I believe it might have something to do with the masquerade and karl

[@smptheory4933]

Ooh yes I can definitely look into that for a future video!

[@0bI1v1on]

This doesn't really have any similaritys with this video but its a theory of mine that I just can't stop thinking about... So we all know quackity wants the revival book or atleast the knowledge within that book from dream to probably revive schlatt, right? Well my theory is that that wont actually work since in Karl's tales of the smp The Haunted Mansion, which is supposed to take place a bit into the future, we see schlatt still is a ghost and because he is now a landlord and selling houses it really doesn't seem like hes gonna get revived...

[@koorirk2898]

I can vouch the discord is great 👌

[@smptheory4933]

Factssss

[@hargunaulakh853]

Yes me too it’s great

[@XX-qf6jj]

What if phil is the main author of the in between???? I just watched a clip of him saying something about straying from the path, why cant it be phill? Isnt phil immortal or something idk

[@TheBlazingDrag0n]

I know it's been 3 days but the otherside is under the inbetween

[@One-mon]

i think ranboonis the one who is trying to help carl bec carl and ranboo are going throught the same thing and the bad person is the egg or dream

[@XX-qf6jj]

Okay I just had a thought what if ranboos other side has been in control this entire time and the ended walls are the only time he’s in enderman stage what if he just says he doesn’t like people looking at him because it’s just a normal trait of a enderman and so is not liking water what if the other half of ranboo is the reason he has memory loss that why when he has enderwalks he doesn’t remember it’s because it isn’t his main mind in control Just a thought tho

[@XX-qf6jj]

Also on Tubbos streams there are messages what if it’s ranboos enderside warning him (?)

[@Countcomfortable]

Just felt like saying that black is the abundance of colour, and white is the lack of colour Theorize accordingly Edit:nvm I was wrong after googling, but wither roses still lack colour technically,and represents the in between,vies versa for the other side

[@NotWetToast]

O-O finally

[@kaibun8108]

So I tried to decode the messages using Base64 It didn't work

[@riverquest3239]

Maybe the messages are double coded using atbash or something

[@smptheory4933]

Ooh good idea! I’ll definitely look into that

[@l.l.coolkid4627]

cool

[@markallen502]

The inbetween is evil The other side is good

[@reed1458]

the blood is from the egg :| I have a big fat theory about it

[@mafu_tf]

Me who doesnt understand anything: this is So cool But srsly please explain this to me THE SIMPLEST YOU CAN. Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down

[@endersplushpuppets8230]

The words are prob an anagram

[@Scrungler111]

Evil Karl make book??!!

[@Scrungler111]

Actually it’s probably ranboo’s white side because it was flashing white and red when it glitched

[@ghosten5452]

Im sub number 1k let's go

[@XereoBot]

Don’t forget me when you are famous

[@brandonbasilio2810]

Momza

[@Ohmagawd0]

hm an arg maybe

[@requiemkx]

Hahaha, in Tales From The SMP: The Pit, Tubbo is named Jackie. 😂 Not Jamie. (This is not a hate comment.)

[@smptheory4933]

Oh you’re right! Thank you for the correction🤦‍♀️😂

[@justarose]

you kept calling Jackie "Jaimie"

[@smptheory4933]

Yes I realized I made a mistake with the name. Thank you for pointing it out!

[@markallen502]

The three big Event The egg funded dream dream getting into prison

[@Kavilion_]

I'm sorry I typed so much

[@smptheory4933]

Your comment was great! Thanks for sharing!

[@beesreadingnook8132]

167th!