What The SEALs Didn’t Find in Iraq

[@DK-ss1vu]

The Iraq war woke me up to politics. Once I realized the government lied, that was it for me. Down the rabbit hole I went haha

[@robrechwithoutzaza7992]

And where are you now in a rabbit hole? Are you libertarian now, or socialist, or maga qanon freak?

[@McKillahGuerilla]

Same here! I was all hyped for a career in the military, then I figured the Iraq war was based on complete lies, and that we basically wasted 20 years in Afghanistan and I lost interest in the military and just researching and study politics.

[@HeathenFitness]

@@McKillahGuerillasame here bro. American reality turned into conceptual thought by young men who have had these rights and capabilities given away. Often for grandiose military honeypots etc but it’s fucking crazy to see how much this degenerate hive mind infects all it touches almost.

[@jestice75]

So why are these guys just speaking up, 20 years later?

[@SailfishSoundSystem]

@@jestice75 Automatic declassification is the declassification of information based upon the occurrence of a specific date or event as determined by the original classification authority; or the expiration of a maximum time frame for the duration of classification established under the Order (25 years). www.justice.gov/archives/open/declassification/declassification-faq

[@theplourde]

I remember being in the sixth grade or so when all this WMD stuff was on the news, my parents were mostly watching it and at that age I shit you not I remember thinking...."theres nothing there and if there was, we'd never REALLY would hear about it on the 6 o clock news"

[@matthewlynch3841]

This guy is a caricature/ out of central casting for an ex SealTeam 6 guy, the haircut, the mannerisms, the attitude, would make a good actor.

[@berryreading4809]

Andy Stumpf was either on this mission or a very similar top target with the same story of getting shot up in helicopters only to find an agricultural plant 🤦‍♂️ I also like his anecdote about being a dumb new guy that had his weapon sling over his forced air gas mask hose, so he was overheating and about to suffocate while taking down a building full of plants not quite "yellow cake dirty bomb materials"🤣 (Sounds like the same mission, I think the helicopter door gunner on his or a neighboring helicopter was killed or wounded during this stupid raid if I'm not mixing up stories 😕)

[@adventuretarian8191]

Holy $hi, we used to quote "Pulp Fiction" a lot...I still do!

[@LK-bz9sk]

Hit the transformers and that silhouetted the helos. Brilliant.

[@joeythechin8870]

It really SUCKED wearing that shitty MOPP Gear every time a scud missile went way over us and smashed miles away. All of those lives lost and the injuries we sustained for NOTHING!!

[@billymadison8036]

"I was there in 2007 when We found 500 metric tons of yellow cake." Casey Logsdon Gray

[@MrLorenzovanmatterho]

There were plenty of WMDs in Iraq, thousands of nerve gas shells and tonnes of uranium ore. What wasn't there was the manufacturing apparatus, it was all leftovers from Saddam's 90s stash.

[@kiloalphasierra]

Saddam kept a lot of old nerve gas shells in small caches all across the country. It really was the only WMD’s he had and most of those were past their use by date. The rest of it was all smoke and mirrors orchestrated by Saddam and swallowed hook line and sinker by almost everyone else. The end result was when he finally figured he needed to come clean about his chemical and biological warfare research and production capabilities post 1991 being just made up stuff to make him look important and much more capable then he really was by that point, no one in a position to stop the invasion of Iraq believed him.

[@randyadair7527]

The MOPP suite was good for keeping warm!

[@benjaminbender6704]

What? You guys wore your uniforms under MOPP gear? My Platoon (Marines) would ALL freeball it....

[@groundpounder8373]

Lol

[@americanpatriot5836]

Good shit!!!

[@chrise842]

Hey! That's content that gets instant liking from me even before I watch it!

[@deantait8326]

Question: Was the statement, Sadam had an opportunity, to avoid an allied invasion but refused to allow UN inspectors into Iraq to search for WMD also a lie…?

[@chrise842]

There seems to be more to that story I heard

[@anthonykaiser974]

Imagine you're S.H., with Iran on one hand and the U.S. on the other. Iran, an enemy you have to worry about every day, never goes away, but the U.S. has to actually deploy significant forces from the US and Germany. If you admit you don't have WMD publicly, you can't hold that over Iran as a deterrent.

[@KinseiSensei]

Everyone seems to forget that Bush made a televised speech giving Saddam one month before he sent in UN inspectors…. We gave him the weapons and built the facilities in the 80’s when they were fighting Iran. In the intel shop we had aerial photos of the convoy of weapons moving to Syria.

[@trogdortpennypacker6160]

@@KinseiSensei I was noting Foreign Policy did a piece last year with unclassifed CIA documents confirming our role in the program so they could be used against Iran in the 80s. Reagan demanded Iraq must win no matter what the cost, but Iran still managed to win after a long bloody war.

[@trogdortpennypacker6160]

@@anthonykaiser974 Well Hussein made Iran an enemy when they invaded Iran in 1980, so yeah Iran was not a fan of S.H. They lost a lot of people due S.H's brutal chemical and biological weapons attacks on them. Pretty sure Iraq has lost every war they attempted.

[@nataliedeyton6829]

It’s a true shame what our government has had y’all special men do …. How can we ever believe what the government ever says again…. And then especially after this covid disaster

[@chubbinnrubbin]

Just a tip, you guys should really add time stamps into your full podcasts

[@liamf5311]

To those saying yeah but yellow cake youtubers can get yellowcake to make yellow glass. Yellowcake takes so much processing to make harmful.

[@darthcannabis856]

MOPP Gear in Iraq was like being in a giant sweat balloon. I hate everything about MOPP. Hate the gas chamber hate fighting in the suit but it was better than the idea of my asshole turning inside out.

[@bbbb98765]

It's important to remember that whilst Bush and Blair exaggerated the threat, Saddam did have a chemical weapons program and did use chemical weapons (most notoriously on Kurdish towns)

[@nickjohnson710]

They didn't find any WMDs did they? That's the whole reason or excuse they used......Did they invade because of the chemical weapons? NO , So way are you bringing it up for

[@dukecraig2402]

Something else that never gets mentioned, and it's basically because when things went sideways finger pointing within the government and military became the order of the day, is that old Sadam had his intelligence arm run a disinformation campaign to get every intelligence agency in the western nations to believe he had WMD's, that's one of the reasons that everytime some UN inspectors would show up somewhere everyone was saying "They just got moved", cause their disinformation was so good it included fake communications between departments within Iraq about moving that stuff that our intelligence people couldn't admit they had gotten for fear that their intelligence people would be tipped off to wire taps or human intelligence or however they were feeding fake information to us, although they knew about any wire taps or anything else because it was exactly how they planted the fake information. Sadam wanted everyone to think he had them and that he was doing a good job of hiding them thinking it'd get him a spot at the big kids table, he figured if everyone thought he had them they'd think twice about invading him plus he wanted Isreal to be nervous about it and start bowing down to him in certain regards, he wanted everyone to think he had a big stick to. He may not have had the best military in the world but his intelligence service was about as good as they get and they played everyone beautifully on that one, problem is it had the opposite effect that he thought it would, but at the end of the day he wanted everyone to think he had WMD's, well, he got what he wanted.

[@enavy58]

Probably important to note. He used them against the Kurds, because he/they knew that the Kurds had no defense against them.

[@trogdortpennypacker6160]

Of course we knew because we facilitated their chemical and biological weapon program for when they invaded Iran. It's public record we didn't report their use against the Iranians to the UN and we even helped provide targeting for these weapons. Even when they later used them on the Kurds we helped try to cover it up, and we attempted to blame the Iranians for doing it. Some of this is covered in the Riegle Report. The equipment we supplied to produce this stuff required certifications of the Department of Commerce lol. Foreign Policy did a piece on this called "Exclusive: CIA Files Prove America Helped Saddam as He Gassed Iran" in 2022 as CIA documents have been declassified. We helped gas 50,000 Iranians, 5000 Kurds and permanently injure another 100K. The issue is all of this was destroyed under UN supervision after their failed Kuwait invasion. So we knew exactly what they had.

[@trogdortpennypacker6160]

I should note we didn't aid them when they were used against Kurds, that was purely Iraq's call but we were aware and worked with them to cover up their role in it. Our role was getting them the equipment, assistance, and biological samples so they could be used against Iranians not Kurds.

[@enavy58]

When in doubt about wearing MOPP gear? Just watch ANY video of people exposed to Sarin, Tabun, VX or any other biologic nerve agent? You’ll never be the same. 🤔

[@ColKurtzknew]

Saddam's attack on the Kurds.

[@Hew.Jarsol]

Why don't you do a show on the worlds most elite SF the SAS? Jealous 👀

[@joesgotya9930]

Never herd of them 😀