The Different Identities of DEVGRU (SEAL Team 6)

[@reggierico]

I'm originally from Coronado, California, and also a Navy brat. Dad was a submariner for 26 years. We moved 14 times by the time I graduated from high school, but Coronado was my home town, born in San Diego, Mom grew up there, etc.. While I was going to a local junior college, I ended up befriending several SEALs, (they were dating my cousin and her best friend). Several of these guys became good friends of mine. All, great, great guys. Partied like no tomorrow and only knew one speed; fast! Well, one of these guys confided to me one day that he'd interviewed for a new 'job', on the east coast and it looked like he was accepted. That's all he said about it, other than it was classified. This was in the 1981 time frame. Fast forward to the following Christmas, and I'm at a party and someone I knew asked me if I'd noticed this friend of mine was back in town for the holidays, I thought. When I found him, he looked like a cave man. Long, long hair and beard and much quieter than i'd remembered. We talked for awhile and then said our goodbyes. He was a plank owner of SEAL Team 6, Gold Squadron. Fast forward seven years and now I am an Air Force pilot, flying AC130 Spectre gunships in the 16th SOS, AFSOC. We're down in Panama doing Operation Just Cause, December, 1989. I'm standing in line to get a cheese burger at the Howard AFB bowling alley, after flying over 16 hours for the initial assault the night before. In other words, we're physically wasted, dog tired and starving. I hear this familiar voice, 'Jeff, is that you?' I turn around and here is my friend, whose obviously been out doing their mission as well. It was weird and surreal, seeing my SEAL friend from Coronado and now here we are, in Panama, years later. He's gone now, but I think of him often. He was a great SEAL and a great friend. He retired a Senior Chief.

[@adub688]

Wow nice life story

[@lonergr3107]

It really is a small world.

[@jsizzle6866]

Thanks for sharing.

[@davidpreston3562]

That’s great!!!!

[@cplusplussizeddick1430]

How'd he end up gone

[@mooshmello2113]

as a proud member of meal team six I salute our navy counterparts and their bravery

[@AECommonThread2137]

Bon appetite

[@navyseals5890]

Meal?

[@alexscottthompson812]

Hahaha... I love that the immediate response was "um... I feel like you meet violence with more violence is the appropriate solution" You can take the man out of the Rangers, but you can't take the Ranger out of the man.

[@tannerjohnson145]

*inappropriate you mean

[@alexscottthompson812]

@@tannerjohnson145 lol, no.

[@tannerjohnson145]

@@alexscottthompson812 lol try and give it another listen again ;)

[@alexscottthompson812]

@@tannerjohnson145 I'd recommend you do the same. Or expand the description and click the "transcript" button. Or talk to a Ranger for 5 seconds. lol, there's not a Ranger in the world that would be like "woah guys, chill it with the violence!"

[@charlesboots6508]

"And then the CIA hired him." Wow, you guys do a great job of setting a hook right at the end of these clips...

[@DirtbagHistory]

Thanks bro

[@thopkins2271]

I’m about 99% sure that it was at the embassy in Baghdad. The pistol whipping anyway. It was big news.

[@spoderman8414]

@@thopkins2271 it was at BAF

[@thopkins2271]

@@spoderman8414 Maybe there was a contractor or a state department guy who got drunk and did something similar in Baghdad then. There was definitely a story going around there too.

[@zachbailey5260]

"And then the CIA hired him." Incredible delivery 😂

[@madadem2652]

As a native I appreciate the preservation of our warrior culture in Red.

[@CA.0verview]

I believe the military to some degree in its deep Organization understands the human psychology when it comes to a environment of stress and brutality of death and it’s inherited recklessness. I think that’s why the have sops (the rules) it’s the only thin string that tugs our side from being the enemy ,on the books that’s what makes our military different from the enemy,without them on a scared battlefield were identical.

[@roguespearsf]

Books, like On Killing, have been written about this very thing but no one reads anymore because they're all screen addicted perpetual children

[@a.c.7781]

Before anyone passes judgement they should probably listen to the whole podcast for more context and better understanding. The first 10 minutes I was skeptical of it but by the end it all tied together and seamed to be fairly and well done.

[@2yoked70]

3:18...I want to know what gold squadron does lol

[@Becarhodzic]

They are in the garbage disposal business, just like all the other squadrons…!

[@ourcountrynotourselves3933]

I think in combat we have people who compartmentalize the things they do to make it...make sense. I was regular Artillery batallion but as a forward observer, served with my infantry platoon/company/batallion. We had guys who would do things to bad guys we captured and to the bodies of dead bad guys but there was a limit. A few were sent back to Kandahar or Bagram for evaluation but all were RTD. Our CSM would talk to us about being professional and not taking things personal but it was difficult to tell if he was being authentic or doing what he was told was the right thing. We lost three guys on an ambush. The commander wanted to talk to us before we went out for ops the next day about 2 hrs after the memorial service. The commander, again, talked about being professional, not killing for revenge or to send a message. He assured us there would be consequences if he received reports of any of these things happening. After he walked off the CSM walked in front of the formation and said with a devilish grin, "you heard what the commander said, because you were standing here when he said it". He walks off and we took it that we had received the message from higher (brigade commander) but we had also been given the green light to do what we had to do to make the enemy feel the pain of the loss of our 3 brothers!

[@11B_scrub]

Amen

[@iwasnttheresidus1422]

@ Golden triangle, you are right & thank you. Opinions, like @ss *oles, everybody has one. But people's should try to be in the middle of the s**t , and see you friend, brother, buddy get hit. I would love to see their reaction. Sorry, I waist my breath.

[@barnesrm76]

What happens in the field stays in the field...

[@oldkingcrow777]

​@@barnesrm76 until it comes back to haunt your dreams in the civilian world 😢

[@vedder10]

I'm not going to pretend to know that kind of horrors these guys have to deal with in combat. But I'm surprised how short sighted some of the commenters are in this comment section. Instead of some of you condoning the behavior of unethical and inhuman behavior, why don't you celebrate those "Warriors" who were there experiencing the same hell and NOT giving in to their darker sides, which resides in all of us. Those are the one's who you should be praising. Warriors have to commit some terrible acts in the name of freedom and retribution but they still have a code by which they live by. Otherwise we are no better than the monsters we presume to be fighting.

[@taylorbrown3336]

Well said!

[@stephen3762]

we've been free a long time. They do it in the interests of the gov't.

[@97guimaraes]

boot licker

[@finksburg7380]

I would pump the brakes before you take anything this man says as fact. Do some research on him and try to validate his sources. Everything he says might as well be a work of fiction.

[@taylorbrown3336]

@@finksburg7380 I spent six years in an intel unit that supported JSOC. Never saw these things with my own eye balls, BUT heard from a few guys who did. This shit is real and is messed up.

[@jeanymish]

This full interview was really really interesting. I’m definitely getting the book

[@alaskaasmr200]

100% .

[@jlz7762]

Unless you want to hear this guy bad mouth Seal Team 6 for nine hours, don’t waste your money. I wasted money on the audio book and I didn’t even finish it.

[@hereticlife2546]

@@jlz7762 are you saying it’s a book filled with his opinion of DEVGRU or it’s a book that he reports facts in that you think reflects badly on the seals so it can’t be true?

[@sammcbride113]

@@hereticlife2546 probably the former one. This is KZbin.

[@ken0746]

@@hereticlife2546 he didn't even get the facts right. He called John Chapman a CCT while he's in fact a PJ

[@kmcc2355]

THESE SEALS took out folks who attacked our civilian populace first , i could care less how they treated terrorists ! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SEALS !

[@tshds5826]

The Taliban never attacked Americans?

[@zainbain8261]

That isn't the point he's making. Committing gruesome acts just isn't something that will benefit the soldiers themselves. Many of these soldiers end up having PTSD and regretting their actions in the future. They also inspire the next recruits to commit the same acts knowingly or unknowingly. It becomes a cycle.

[@mikemiller551]

Sometimes you have to send evil to kill evil. I'm not saying these Seals are evil, but some of the shit they are going up against is absolutely evil. Level up.

[@stephen4121]

Well desecrating bodies is evil. So yup they're evil if what the guy is saying is true (which I've heard of them doing elsewhere)

[@AmandaFromWisconsin]

@@stephen4121 "Well desecrating bodies is evil." Is it, though?

[@connorhall8463]

@@AmandaFromWisconsinyes it is how could you possibly justify mutilating dead bodies. People criticize isis for the same practices yet when our guys do it then it becomes okay? War is a horrible thing and requires people to do horrible things but that doesn’t mean we should allow servicemen to stoop to the level of our enemies.

[@MrShovelBottom]

So bassically, if I want to go to DEVGRU, and more specifically red squadron, I gotta be a sociopath.

[@ramelbrooks2316]

A very smart sociopath 😂

[@familymann454]

@@ramelbrooks2316 a very athletic sociopath

[@Avalanche1368]

Their job is to kill people. If you can't handle that, it's best to not apply.

[@patmartin4411]

I don't think your ever gonna have to worry about it

[@Kopfjaeger39]

Received training from a former Red Squadron member, on more than one occasion. They are wired differently, as all Specop members are, but he was a very nice guy. Well mannered, very outgoing, and very easy to shoot the shit with. Not at all a “sociopath” in any way shape or form.

[@CA.0verview]

5:33 I think it’s not just violence by brutality and Primal acts of human nature .to some that gene is triggered and can be stomached “ the strongest “ so now apply skill sets ,assets and a tribe with those genes, now you have a whole different breed of human predators. This combination is nothing new to our human history , only times and Technology has changed.

[@michaelanderson7715]

Here's a breakdown of UKSF (United Kingdom Special Forces; 22 SAS/SBS) selection. PHASE ONE 1. Aptitude; Navigation & Endurance (commonly referred to as Hills Phase) 4 weeks of *DAILY* mountain marches navigating by map from point to point against an *unspecified* time limit. Typical schedule as follows (remember, these marches are EVERY DAY)... Week 1 15-20 km 40lbs weight+weapon, water etc. Week 2 18-24 km 45lbs weight+weapon, water etc. Week 3 20-32 km 50lbs weight+weapon, water etc. Week 4, Test Week; consists of 5 marches over 7 days march 1, 2 & 3; 30 km 60lbs weight+weapon, water etc. march 4; 35 km 60lbs weight+weapon, water etc. THEN, 4 hours rest and start the final march; Long Drag; *65* km 70lbs weight+weapon, water etc. 20-24 hour time limit (weather dependent). --------------- PHASE TWO 2. Jungle warfare, tactics, navigation ALL LIVE FIRE TRAINING. 6 weeks. Those who have passed phase one have to then pass jungle training. Training takes place in Belize or Brunei, deep in jungles. Candidates learn the basics of surviving and patrolling in the harsh conditions. UKSF jungle patrols have to live for weeks behind enemy lines, in 4 man patrols, living on rations. This includes yet more days of marches point to point. Jungle training weeds out those who can't handle the discipline required to keep themselves and their kit in good condition whilst on long range patrols in difficult conditions. Again, there is a mental component being tested, not just a physical. Special Forces teams need men who can work under relentless pressure, in horrendous environments for weeks on end, without a lifeline back to home base. ---------------- PHASE THREE Continuation; Escape & Evasion & Tactical Questioning/Resistance to Interrogation The small number of candidates who have made it through endurance and jungle training now enter the final phase of selection. The likelihood of a special operation going wrong behind enemy lines is quite high, given the risks involved. UKSF want soldiers who have the wherewithal and spirit required to escape and evade capture and resist interrogation. For the escape and evasion (E&E) portion of the course, the candidates are given brief instructions on appropriate techniques. This may include talks from former POWs or special forces soldiers who have been in E&E situations in the real world. Next, the candidates are let loose in the countryside, wearing World War 2 vintage coats with instructions to make their way to a series of waypoints without being captured by the hunter force of other soldiers. This portion lasts for 3-5 days after which, captured or not, all candidates report for TQ. Tactical Questioning (TQ) tests the prospective UKSF men's ability to resist interrogation. They are treated roughly by their interrogators, often made to stand in 'stress positions' for hours at a time, while disorientating white noise is blasted at them. When their turn for questioning comes, they must only answer with the so-called 'big 4' (name, rank, serial number and date of birth). All other questions must be answered with 'I'm sorry but I cannot answer that question.' Failure to do so results in failing the course. The questioners will use all sorts of tricks to try and get a reaction from the candidates. They may act friendly and try to get their subjects chatting; or they stand inches away from their subjects and scream unfavourable remarks about the sexual habits of their mothers. Female interrogators may laugh at the size of their subject's manhood. Of course, a real interrogation would be a lot more harsh and the subject would not know that they get to leave alive when it's all over. That said, days of interrogations and enduring the stress positions and white noise break down a man's sense of time and reality. UKSF are looking for men who can withstand such treatment long enough so that the effects of revealing any operational information they might have can be lessoned by HQ. ------------------------------------------------------------ This is 6 months in, successful candidates for the SAS are now badged and report to Hereford, the home of 22 SAS. The SBS candidates still have a further selection/continuation phase to complete before being badged and report Royal Marines Poole, the home of the SBS. Completion of this 6 month selection course is NOT the end. They then start SF training (which never ends) and for the 1st year in particular are on probation; they can be sent back to their original unit at any time.

[@xenotype3258]

Can you share some on SBS I’ve heard of them being teamed with ODA detachments in Afghanistan.

[@michaelanderson7715]

@@xenotype3258 no idea

[@drob437]

By Strength and Guile.

[@broflo3875]

Nobody on this video or in this comment section mentioned or asked anything about the SAS or SBS. This about US Navy DEVGRU.

[@michaelanderson7715]

@@broflo3875 👶🍼

[@dillydoor]

I dont remember what book it was but it described as special forces and tier 1 operators as borderline psychopaths. On a nightly basis (often times several times a night) You could be shooting people from just feet away. The constant adrenaline rush had to be insane as you're expected to go home to you're family to be as normal as you can. That kind of life has to change you over time.

[@merces47letifer4]

Absolutely. But our culture, especially THAT culture, tells us just to "deal with it".

[@alexander1902]

I remember I had a teacher in high school (Air Force) that deployed alongside side a SEAL team that said all the ones he met seemed insane. He described them as the type of guys who could be at a party and go out and kill someone and return like nothing had happened. His deployment was pre 9/11, I'm sure the culture was somehow more "tame" then.

[@northface484]

Rob O'Neil seems fine to me...

[@alexander1902]

@@northface484 he's done some pretty douchebag stuff over the years so I'm not sure how you define that.

[@jmt9185]

There are also several team guys who are not psychopaths and are quite normal.

[@aaronsmith600]

I mean. Great interview. I kept looking at the books in the background and kept finding more D&D manuals.. AAAAND... Subscribe!

[@jackharle1251]

This is the same douche that helped F over John Kariaku. He's a weasel

[@TheThepurpelstuff]

As a fellow individual in the community, having someone disclose traditions is very troubling.

[@genoa81]

i agree

[@IIRaWTooNII]

I think it's interesting, plus you could find these things out regardless

[@xprettylightsx]

He’s(the journalist) a rat fink piece of garbage. I agree with what you say. Our men protect the citizens of the greatest country in the world. Short of illegal activity , nothing they do should be public. God bless you for your service. There are still people out there who love our NSW protectors.

[@unropednope4644]

Stolen Valor 😂

[@itsdeebs5156]

Love the clown section here. Haha

[@elix5788]

I feel like grey and black are the most secretive you never here anything about grey doing boat ops or black getting caught doing intelligence it’s impressive how secret they are compared to the other squadrons

[@wildbill60]

I'm so glad we have these brave men who keep 🇺🇲 safe

[@seanhastings4432]

Except when they kill other Americans. RIP Logan Melgar.

[@RealRavi]

I’m glad we have a system that has both groups of these brave men. Courage, aggression, and restraint is a delicate balance. It needs some external review and reporting so that we can improve these teams. I think that’s fair.

[@AlwaysPeacefulMaDeuce]

@@seanhastings4432 RIP to a good one done in by evil “brothers”. The human condition is all but perfect.

[@jaysencorbett1855]

They left out the part where we lost a seal member an the taliban tried cutting off his head

[@PRODIGYofW4R]

They keep the entire world more safe GO COWBOYS

[@dharper3619]

I thought the Silver Team went by the "HEADHUNTERS"? is that true??

[@emmanuelcamacho2442]

Raiders and headhunters

[@nicknickerson2124]

To meet with and destroy the enemy by any means possible.

[@yurialfa5488]

Quite interesting. I have no problem with whatever Six does to terrorists. If innocents have been harmed that's a serious problem though.

[@yurialfa5488]

@Barry Obama Depends on who they're doing that to. Terrorists? IDGAF. If it's innocent people that's a crime obviously.

[@palmerstubbs4067]

​@Barry Obama They go through the most violence and darkness imaginable, you can not cast stones at them for becoming "jaded" or for becoming a little of the darkness, at the end of the day they are doing it to terrorist's.

[@f_alcon2903]

@Barry Obama yes

[@Kdschaak]

@@f_alcon2903 You bet.

[@f_alcon2903]

@@Kdschaak 🤝

[@cej3940]

Man I clicked on this clip hoping to hear more about black squadron... Guess that's probably an attestment to their special recon/forward recon into counter intelligence roles

[@juanpadilla3203]

I remember when it was the, “quiet professionals”.

[@Bull_10RR]

The point of it is that nobody remembers... As it should be

[@zach1972]

Go check out DJ Shipley, he was a Red Squadron member, he doesn't seem to believe in being quiet about his level of knowledge, in fact he believes that everyone should have access to the knowledge he has, his and his buddies entire business practice is teaching what they know to people

[@babayaga4158]

@@zach1972 they more so teach swat teams the operator stuff they learned. They teach civilians the stuff that a firearms instructor would teach.

[@babayaga4158]

And even though GBRS has came out that they’re all retired navy guys they’ve been relatively quiet regarding their missions and what they did during the time they were in compared to other guys.

[@zach1972]

@@babayaga4158 DJs 4.5 hour Podcast some of it revolving around missions would beg to differ, idk if it's just me, but his last big job in Africa, I've not been able to even google that one

[@memindalmis]

Hello guys, can you say to me, whats nickname of Gold Team in DEVGRU and other? Thanks.

[@leanfiend]

Gold squadron are the crusaders

[@Juandinggong]

I didn’t know mike Johnson house speaker had a side gig.

[@OttoMatieque]

What about the Minions (Gru and the Minions)?

[@Handcannon77]

Lol the end was quite fitting "....and that SEAL was kicked out....and was soon picked up by the CIA". Yep, sounds about right. The CIA were probably salivating at the prospect of recruiting somebody with his skill set and training to do their dirty work. Theres a very fine line that has to be walked by these guys when it comes to the brutality of being an effective elite warrior, on one hand the greater the violence of action, aggression, and brutality of your force lends itself to being a more effective force. You HAVE to become a beast of a man to do the job to a certain extent, after all they were often doing one if not multiple direct action missions every single night on a deployment during the GWoT where they knew theyd be going out and snatching souls. There also is a certain aspect of psychological warfare that doing something like "skinning" an enemy combatant entails, is it gruesome and brutal? Sure, I mean I certainly wouldnt be volunteering to do that but you can argue that there is some merit to striking additional fear into a terrorists hearts by doing so. Im not condoning it or saying actions such as those should be glorified, just that there is in fact some value in it from a psychological warfare perspective. In fact things like that have been practiced by many great fighting forces dating back all the way to the Spartans or the Vikings, in which brutal acts of violence against the enemy were actually glorified and accepted because they valued making their enemies fear them that much and wanted to assert their dominance and violence of action. So its not like its something that is unique to our modern day elite warfighters, I think its part of the human condition and how warfare can effect that condition. That being said, it brings up the question of: Do these types of elite special warfare units attract sociopath's or psychopath's? And the answer is absolutely, its a little talked about but well known secret within those communities that the job attracts some of the greatest guys, but also some of the worst. What is required of the job, simply lends itself to attracting someone with that type of mental state, and theyre usually extremely effective warriors due in part to that psychology. You must make a beast out of a man to be an elite fighting force and do the job effectively, but what if the man is already a beast, and you just have to train them? Thats a conundrum for the military, since there absolutely is value in recruiting those types of people to fight.

[@c.j.t7269]

100% sociopaths and psychopaths in the navy seals. Probably with a bipolar disorder and adhd.

[@FrauditortrollsbestfriendAL]

Somtimes we nned nasty and wrong.... They do the work that's needs be done, to bad it for our rotten government..

[@tinto278]

We need people like that in the military.

[@borarider669]

@@tinto278 it's like having enforcers in a hockey team

[@glaudiustactical]

outside the homebase, did they know your mates from DEVGRU? for example, you go to the market or swimming pool then you met with your friend from another squad. do you know each other?

[@brianek2744]

We ask these guys to do and see unimaginable things in war and now we’re trying to expose a few that took the pressure harder than others. I’ve never been for torture, but war is hell and will make some people make unbelievable mistakes. Our warfighters make sure that the bad guys think twice before hurting innocent civilians. It’s not always a smooth ride 🇺🇸

[@dr.foxysocks2459]

failure of leadership to address these problems earlier

[@brianek2744]

@@dr.foxysocks2459 failure of leadership? Most of these guys had never seen combat. This was new for almost everyone. We asked these guys every night to hunt and kill bad guys with no regard of their mental processing ability. It’s like owning a sports car and flooring the pedal into the red for years. Eventually you will have guys mentally crack.

[@stephen3762]

If they thought twice why did the war last 20 years?

[@dr.foxysocks2459]

@@brianek2744 We are on the same page

[@somethinganything4864]

@@brianek2744 so you are fine with facilitating that behavior? The other SMU's don't seem to have this problem while still being extremely effective.

[@Krakatawa84]

Which squadron has the more accomplishment?

[@aye1972]

I also wonder what would the White Squadron will look like if ST6 or DEVGRU had an another squadron?

[@wrestle4life234]

I also think “If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying” is a poisonous statement. I also think roids and ducking boat are poisonous actions. But I’m not a SEAL so I guess my opinion don’t matter much

[@AmandaFromWisconsin]

*doesn't

[@gabrielm.4554]

04:35 so a "martial art" if you will

[@Trhrha]

Why is the gray just the Minnesota Vikings logo

[@davidcarik1761]

I think much like first responders in the Medical, Fire, and Law Enforcement communities...much, MUCH more should be done to monitor and treat mental health issues. In my opinion, mandatory psychiatric checks and psychologists and Doctors should be assigned to screen and watch over many of these professionals. I just don't think it's realistic to assume that people can see....over and over again...violence and death and extreme stressful situations and come out of it unaffected. I'm sure the military and law enforcement are trying but it seems to be something that HAS to be accounted for with resources. God bless everyone.

[@rocket5557]

The powers that be already know this. They are not interested in what they know will happen later. They’re all expendable in their eyes. To them the ends justify the means. But when it happens they will jump on the bandwagon and deny all responsibility.

[@noeflores8049]

Unnatural trauma requires unnatural treatments

[@justinplaysguitar]

Training highly experienced killer and getting mad that they don’t mind killing ? And enjoy their job ?

[@sydt7104]

a bunch of guys (and maybe some gals?) from r/navyseals are eagerly taking notes on this

[@sydt7104]

@@oliversacks3837 go on that subreddit and you will find (mostly) serious pole who want to join the SEALs and are prepping for BUD/S or who are looking for workout tips, a community, etc. Then there is this minority that are like "I wanna join SEALs by the time I'm 20 and then join DEVGRU before I'm 21 and get into Gold squadron and be a medic and see action and have 25 deployments before I'm 40 and blah blah blah." That's what my comment was directed at.

[@hiramhaji7813]

There shouldn’t be any of this, unless if MEN want to be seals they do not need to know anything about what is coming. This weak mindset if knowing what your getting into is the direct effect of the treasonous Obama administration that has derailed the Command. When a Command takes a job like killing Obamas buddy there is a cost, and weakening of a elite unit …..

[@hiramhaji7813]

@@oliversacks3837 Osama

[@hiramhaji7813]

@@oliversacks3837 sure there is, Obama and Osama were both involved in the CIA prior to his presidency. The evidence is there. To in depth to be typing out. You give these media outlets way more credit than that deserve….. I’ll digress

[@anthonylewis1980]

We have no business knowing this info . This shit getting out is what's gona make tier one units soft

[@silly1885]

Why not? What constitutes being soft, not killing civilians and beheading people?

[@anthonylewis1980]

@@deadheart556 those books are cleared by the pentagon plus if the men who served wana tell their story its on them . It's probably not the best idea tho. My comment was more to do with the detailed nature of this interview the traditions, inside workings and culture within the teams should be their business imo. I just don't think anyone wins knowing this much info about a unit that keeps us all safe especially in this age of snowflakes.

[@megatwan5088]

Boooo hooooo

[@1bassman2007]

Great book with much info and detail!

[@joshsmart9178]

@1bassman2007 what's the name of the book?

[@1bassman2007]

@@joshsmart9178 "Code Over Country" by Matthew Cole

[@roguespearsf]

@@1bassman2007 a great book that people should read before they blindly virtue signal and bootlick these guys. I'm an infantryman from early to mid OEF/OIF and I'm ashamed of the military over things like this. You'd be surprised at all the pieces of* human trash that are in the military

[@nolanfrazier3482]

@@1bassman2007 Whats it about?

[@1bassman2007]

@@nolanfrazier3482 History of Seal Team 6, alleged "war crimes" in that command, and SEALs overall...

[@antonioarcher353]

Most fascinating thing I’ve heard in a min

[@tylerlawlerDEVGRU]

I forgot: black belt club USA. white, yellow, purple, orange, green, blue, blue stripe, blue double black stripe. -St. Michael aka the point man

[@iamthelizardking6239]

It seems that the professional standard among CAG(delta) is far superior to Devgru

[@TPhoenixt]

Quite significantly actually, as someone mentioned retaliating to a KIA is a mentality an elite/ tier1 operator should not have, this is exactly why these men reached ST6 and beyond

[@Becarhodzic]

It just seems that way. Shows, movies and books are out there for both Units..

[@7777PEACEMAKER]

One of Richard Marcinko's book he mentions a guy named in Vietnam Manny Tanto prob fake name but he would skin enemy troops alive and then you had the Apache sniper that Carlos Hathcock killled she would skin our soldiers and remove their eyelids

[@tylerlawlerDEVGRU]

Black Squadron, the guys that don't get Navy dress uniforms get sent to the Army, graduate OSUT and Airborne, and then sent to the VA.

[@casaflores3000]

Matthew needs to try out for seal school and experience it for himself

[@MaverickTomcat69]

Is there like a top squadron within DEVGRU? Or they all the same with no preference in getting chosen for T1 missions

[@argeadworldwide]

Red seems most popular or is most popular for former personnel who come out and talk about it, but they also have quite a bit of accomplishments like the osama raid and some stuff in africa

[@jaezavodskoizavoiskov5488]

I hear about mako 31 there the the blackest of the ops are they blue or yellow squad.

[@OceanicMaestro]

the whole purpose of the SEAL teams especially DEVGRU is to create the best killers there are, and they're absolutely the best killers. I don't like when people act surprised that these SEALs found enjoyment in killing, its what they were trained to do. They were focused on the mission and it just so happens that dropping bodies was part of that mission whether you find that morally wrong or not it was their job and they were damn good at it.

[@Midnitedreary88]

Well, there the best killers until ur reminded of Delta Force

[@OceanicMaestro]

@@Midnitedreary88 people like you are weird

[@HkMp5Guy]

Isn’t this that guy who went on democracy now trying to expose our best war fighters ?

[@vitigaymer1053]

He exposed DEVGRU not Delta

[@robertklouse]

Cold Kill.I graduated.I entered an operational location filled with Commanders gathered intell and own their underwear & easily exited unnoticed.Paradise Valley.

[@terryduffield5860]

I’m an old Force Recon Marine and I remember not too long ago none of this shit was any nasty Civilians business and opsec was everything. We were “Silent Professionals”.. We trained with, did our workups With and deployed with SEALs everywhere we went we did combined Ops with them too. Great guys. They sure the fuck weren’t sharing any details of their inner workings then with people outside their culture……this is pathetic. Time to pull your “look at me” culture having heads outta your asses and get back to that OLD BREED mindset. Circle the wagons boys and reset.

[@TheTeamHousePodcast]

Good luck putting that genie back in the bottle.

[@terryduffield5860]

@@TheTeamHousePodcast Some Units never opened it up. The Teams can get it cleaned up if they tried. One problem the Teams have is the Navy they work in uses them as a massive recruiting tool and they consider all publicity good publicity. Culture changes constantly. Will be interesting to see where things go

[@larryapl]

Absolutely agree. Back to being quiet. OohRah

[@sangrangbty540]

The plot twist was he was told by the CIA to indulge in violence and get kicked out so he can work for them exclusively 😄

[@sauljahboi5965]

DEVGRU will always be the JV SMU.

[@Becarhodzic]

I don’t believe that is true at all. But I am interested in why you do?

[@internet_internet]

Lol

[@cron1165]

What's JV?

[@yashjoseph3544]

@@cron1165 I think it means Junior Varsity in this case.

[@cron1165]

@@yashjoseph3544 Ah okay, thanks

[@justinshades6652]

Idaho?

[@recon0x7f16]

you forgot gray

[@KEEPINGitREAL213]

In order to speak about DEVGRU and their actions...You need to have been a part of DEVGRU. Which neither of these two (know-it-alls) have been. There's always someone who speaks in an educated manor about things they know absolutely nothing about!

[@werdevo6]

Bingo, lmfao!!!☝️👀✊🇺🇸

[@chivechan1233]

But this guy is an investigator who spoke to these Seals first hand so.. its not 100% covered but I don't doubt that what he did cover is accurate. The irony in your comment.

[@jaredstancombe6724]

Tier1 special operations groups need accountability just like any other government entity.

[@Thunderjoe87]

he makes them sound cool tho

[@Thunderjoe87]

I also like how he is explaining all of this with d&d guides behind him

[@Thanatos138]

I feel like sometimes some of these folks who choose to talk about and analyze the actions of these elite operators on their actions are doing so as if it's all black and white and no grey areas. I personally don't think that's a fair way to do so. Obviously war is brutal, and once a situation has gotten so bad that men are actively killing each other to decide the outcome, it's a completely different world they are living in. Now of course like in anything, there needs to be common sense rules and laws that need followed. And even though someone is a soldier at war they should still conduct themselves with professionalism. But at the end of the day there's going to be grey areas especially in war and especially at a top tier operations level. I also believe that a person in that situation who's constantly surrounded by the horrors of war will almost instinctively start to become numb in their emotions and may start to seem like they are " fine" with being involved with such violence. But I think that's how their minds help them cope with it. I'm not saying there has never been an unprofessional operator to do stupid things. I just think that unless you have been in their shoes and seen and done what they have done and are doing it for a noble cause I'll add, I just don't think it's right or fair to cast any serious judgment.

[@berryreading4809]

Also when it's game time would you rather have 2000 extra rangers that strictly follow every law of war to the finest point, or 2000 operators that are capable and okay with doing the dirty work beyond the laws... Because whether terrorist insurgents or neer peer adversaries, they seem to be much less concerned about the Geneva Convention or general orders than the USA... Playing by the rules already puts you at a disadvantage. As bad as it seems having a small unknown group that can use such activities to our advantage seems like a neccessary evil tool... Some say that's fighting fire with fire, well that's exactly how we fight wildland fires... Just have to be careful not to add fuel to the small but neccessary fire IMO... Look at what Russian regulars have been up to in Chechnya,Georgia,Syria, and now in Ukraine... Im sure the conduct that spetsnaz carry out during operations or for intelligence gathering make some seals leaving a beheaded IED maker or local cell leader behind to send a message seem like a birthday cake in comparison! Sometimes the the good guys having the capacity to be bad guys is a tool worth having, it's not pretty or idealistic but neither is modern warfare.

[@peartree8338]

The ones not skinning people. Definitely the ones not skinning people.

[@Thanatos138]

@@peartree8338 Dude if you truly believe that is an issue whatsoever with DEVGRU operators then Holy shit. Do you understand how squared away one has to be mentally, physically and tactically to even be considered to just screen to be able to tryout? I heard there's a big foot too but I don't really lose any sleep over it. It sure does sound like a juicy story though to put in one's book they are trying to sell..

[@connorhall8463]

@@Thanatos138dude people have talked pretty openly about canoeing and it seems pretty obvious the scalping was going on too. There are lots of problems in these tier 1 units as they don’t have much oversight and are required to do some pretty heinous shit. Just because they are heroes doesn’t mean they should be given carte blanche to commit war crimes.

[@rafwdo]

What about Delta squadrons emblems? Anybody have seen? 😁

[@Chris-xv7wd]

Lmao! So true

[@roguespearsf]

I went to paramedic school with a former SEAL who trained with Marcus Luttrell and I quote, "I wouldn't piss on Marcus if he were on fire". And yes, he was legit because another guy and myself who were both veterans (I was Infantry, other guy was an AF firefighter) were skeptical but he brought his "I love me" book in and unless this guy spent hundreds or thousands of dollars having all those certificates made up and then somehow knew the lingo (military guys just know) then I believe every word that man said.

[@roguespearsf]

We were skeptical because this dude did not look like what you would think a SEAL would look like but we were wrong. Great paramedic, too, he was getting certified so he could apply to Trident as a shooter/medic

[@roguespearsf]

Trident only hires former SEALs for anti pirate operations on ships

[@JFBalz]

The animosity was simply because he wrote a book?

[@benjamingruen6820]

Why would you feel it necessary to say some word of mouth shit on the internet about someone you don't even know? Marcus Luttrell is a fuckin hero regardless what some dude u were training with says. Your comment pisses me off

[@drossi101]

@@JFBalz There’s been a few seals that have come out about Luttrell lying in his book and not liking him as a person.

[@ChrisHoward141]

It seems that Jack Murphy has been salivating to talk about SEALs since his days back at SOFREP with him even making a comment saying something like “I’ve never met a seal who didn’t have problems with X, if any seals want to come on the show and prove me wrong I’ll be glad to talk to you.” Idk I think maybe a seal pissed him off at some point and he’s gone on the warpath since then. But ALL military units (especially SOF units) have issues with heightened aggression, not just the seals. They are just the sexiest name but Jack acts like they are the only ones to do it.

[@TheTeamHousePodcast]

Not really dog. Ask SF how they feel about my extensive reporting on them over the years and to this day. lmk if you need urls...

[@ChrisHoward141]

@@TheTeamHousePodcast If this is Jack Murphy who I’m talking to I’m sure that SF has a great relationship with you due to your good experience/ time with them. And you weren’t always this antagonistic towards seals. I watched/listened to a bunch of your interviews with seals where you guys had genuine rapport, but towards your end at SOFREP it seemed like you forgot all that and even (what seemed to be a decent from what the public could see) your relationship with Brandon Webb🤷‍♂️

[@ChrisHoward141]

@@TheTeamHousePodcast also I believe you that you have reported on SF, it just seems that whenever seals have done something it strikes an extra nerve. Like when the two seals killed the green beret.

[@AnonymousVv3]

CIA hire different for different jobs, just like security clearances like Clearance A etc

[@redzing114]

What did gold squadron do that was a "different style"

[@imanuelcunt8676]

nothing this dude is out his fucking mind. Every squadron has the same dudes and a lot of the times they switch squadrons for different reasons and it works because no matter what patch they wear its still the same dudes that made it throught the same green team

[@agmsmith4079]

@@imanuelcunt8676 ...yup exactly. This guy is trying to invent something that isn’t there. He makes it sound like once you are assigned a team you are on it for life, and that is so not true, they bounce around between the teams frequently as they get promoted.

[@burgundycommander]

@@imanuelcunt8676 lol right and i’m sure you’re also a delta team 6 space ranger operator back in the day.

[@xusmico187]

dude, this would have blown up long ago if true. all about selling books.

[@Avalanche1368]

Bingo. The military's job is to kill people, yet they act all surprised and horrified at how gruesome it gets..Give me a break.

[@bigsky3072]

Meet violence with more violence. That's what I'm I'm doing with my emplonow who fired me for retaliation

[@EnduroRiderChannel]

Having a really hard time believing that Tier 1 operators in Devgru were skinning people…

[@agmsmith4079]

It would be interesting to see Rob O’Neil, Andy Stumpf or DJ Shipley post a video in response to this.

[@juancruiz007]

That fact that they’re not (to me) already says a lot.

[@agmsmith4079]

@@juancruiz007 ...very true. Andy and Rob both talk a lot about their time in DevGru. Neither ever mentions anything like this.

[@alexander1902]

@@agmsmith4079 Andy Stumpf got retired pretty early in GWOT and isn't the most reliable person. He spent the early years of his clout chasing trashing Delta Force for not running into direct gunfire in order to do some Hollywood stunt and become casualties. Mind you he was the least injured guy on that operation, the same one Tyler Grey nearly lost his arm. Neither have ever mentioned the other in interviews.

[@bobhin7986]

@@agmsmith4079 that would be akin to admitting to war crimes in social media, they might be retired but they can be put back into active service to be court-martial. So they ain’t gonna say anything

[@MedRider]

you know, i wanted to be a seal when i was 8 years old. I read Richard Marcinko's books and wanted desperately to be on ST6. I joined the Navy when I turned 18 in 2002 and took the pre-buds test in boot when we went to do our navy swim quals and passed with flying colors. Unfortunately what I didn't know prior to joining was that my recruiter had lied to me and i was 4 points short on the asvab portion etc. and i tried to get a waiver later but because I eventually went on to corps school and fmss / fmf it was denied. Years later here I am and I am actually really glad I never went on to be a SEAL or join ST6 if i had gotten that lucky. It sounds like many of those guys are psychopaths.

[@cplusplussizeddick1430]

Stfu. Acting like you would've just "went on to be a SEAL". You could've very much went forward with it if you were actually about it

[@isaaclosh8082]

Just talk about the identities of the squads without all the negative stuff. You're making an inference that the identities lead to grotesque abuse, and that's inaccurate

[@spcricket310]

That’s amazing great story

[@jackharle1251]

He's a liar. He helped the govt put John Kariaku in jail.

[@RR-yi8zr]

Would love to hear y’all’s thoughts on Aaron Howard …

[@roguespearsf]

Or that coward Marcus Luttrell

[@tylerlawlerDEVGRU]

The deed is all, not the glory.

[@lm-usmc]

These warriors are trained for years to do one job. Let them do their job the best they can, hands untied. I think its best the public not know what these bad asses do every day to rid the world of scum. Most will never understand the why.

[@silly1885]

Garbage take

[@vitigaymer1053]

Are the rumors true of a Pink Squadron? Who would bust Haji cheeks as their MO!?

[@tkugsify]

Lmao

[@ascendrio]

''Then the CIA hired him''....of course.

[@Rudy28330]

Im not gonna read this book nor do I care, Im 50 yrs old, and a firefighter. I watched innocent people burn to death and jump 1000 ft to thier death.. did we forget about that?? I didnt.. I sleep soundly in my bed because trained men protect me on my behalf.. id buy them a drink anyday

[@MikeM-vo7ub]

Perfectly said and thank you for your service.

[@jaymill3250]

I’m all for reporting and press but why would you choose this? Some of this stuff really doesn’t need to be put in out in public christ dude…

[@montgomeryx3852]

Dont go to war if you dont want to acknowledge the atrocities. That is war............

[@CMMSFP]

What’s your source for this content? Almost all of it is not true.

[@charlesl5226]

I don’t understand what talking about all this on a live public podcast will do. Besides making the sof community be put on a leash so small the job can’t get done. Besides making the sof community become so regimented it turns into the normal infantry. Don’t get me wrong there is a line, but when we are the only ones following it, don’t be surprised when those who say yup I’ll go and get dirty, actually get dirty.

[@vitigaymer1053]

CAG Squadrons managed to get the job done without the same prelevance of issues that has afflicted DEVGRU

[@charlesl5226]

@@vitigaymer1053 true, as far as we know. And there are guys within devgru and all over that are trying to clean it up, and it should be. However, putting it out there to crucify those who do it, sent over by the same people who curse them and hate them all awhile they are getting paid handsomely under the table makes no sense. If change is what people want look at the suits and ties before you point fingers at the boots and cammies. The job requires a mentality, a type of person. The lines are not just black and white. There is grey. Light and dark. You can’t want the world to be safe and not have men willing and able to become monsters to get it.

[@wolf7el356]

The problem is that there has been 20 years of a lack of accountability & a culture of covering up wrongdoings that has permeated the SEALS to the point where Operators within DEVGRU themselves both active duty & retired wound up reaching out to Matt to tell him these stories. I don't think people understand what this book is, this isn't Matt just writing a book about DEVGRU based on his own unfounded opinions, he's reporting what was told to him by dozens & dozens of SEALS many of whom are still currently active duty right now who told him themselves that they don't like the culture & feel as though there needs to be significant changes & holding Superior Officers accountable. The lack of accountability within the SEALS is primarily due to the Hero Worship that gets attached to them, where people literally bow at their feet in prostration for every fanciful War story of every tactically inefficient failed Op that they write their books about. There is a significant number of SEALS within the community who have an issue with how their brand is being represented & how too many guys are allowed to get away with literal Murder, so therfore they gone to the last option by reaching out to Matt & using him as their Mouthpiece. The most unfortunate part is Matt has to take all the backlash from the Bootlickers who can't comprehend what he's doing & don't understand that his sources are SEALS.

[@mvubu6823]

Psychopaths being psychopaths.... Who knew.

[@bryanpinto4051]

like the sorting hat in Harry Potter right. lol🤐

[@charliemike13]

Great work! Sua Sponte!

[@joeyjojojr.shabadoo915]

*Had I known about RED Team, I would have enlisted. This episode is better than a recruiting video. For everyone 1 guy reading this comment that calls me a savage, there are 2 guys reading this and watching this video that are silently saying to themselves "Red Team ? SIGN ME UP".*

[@stn7172]

Why red

[@joeyjojojr.shabadoo915]

@@stn7172 Tomahawks.....

[@nameredacted1176]

Fact: Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica. Side note; *Identity Theft is not a joke. Millions of families suffer every year*

[@jeremyfortune7274]

Why are you telling all this? It seems like you may be opening a door that should stay closed..

[@JakeHunter2010]

It take bad men to fight other bad men. Gandhi

[@alexander1902]

Real life isn't a movie. People shouldn't cross the line into committing mutalations and potential war crimes. You don't go out a shoot a deer multiple times with a .50 bmg and then hang it's organs from the trees do you? The same principle applies in war. A certain level of respect and decency is expected from everyone.

[@leehess6335]

Those guys are real hero’s there is no way to see your friends your teammate die and you’re just gonna sit there and say OK we can’t do this we wouldn’t be in this position if the the brass that was working that mission when they did wrong can you get guys killed that could’ve been prevented because you broke the rules whatever they did to them Taliban and these Terrace that only just killed their teammate and friend in a way that you cannot even imagine these people aren’t part of the cell that took down the twin Towers so you have all that going on through your mind in your head whatever happen on that mountain it’s not their fault somebody sent them into the line of fire bad things happen but worse things happen to Americans Americans just do it anybody would do it if they say something a friend or teammate they’re going to react 👏👏👏👏💪💪💪💪💪👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😱🇺🇸😱

[@tshds5826]

but they did it with your ole friend Chapman 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tylerlawlerDEVGRU]

Army CAV patch, Airborne Wings, and infantryman cord; DEVGRU BLACK SQUADRON. -The Point Man

[@Axe_]

This dude is a schizo that claims he was point man on the bin laden raid when in reality he was kicked out of the army and stabbed a teacher a few months ago. How the hell is this guy not in a mental hospital.

[@NelsonReyesJr]

I like the Dungeons and Dragons books on the shelf over his right shoulder.

[@angusdog22]

I love this shit …. I can’t get enough.

[@henryquednau3547]

Nothing wrong here , regardless the job is the job and Someone has to do it , people share there opinions on how they believe these guys should conduct them selfs after the killing is done . It needed to be done it was done I personally do not care what happens after . If they get a thrill out of it that’s them , if they are saddened after so be it . No one in this world should have an opinion on how another person should react or feel after having to do that job on a regular basis . War isn’t nice , but it will always exist , evil is met with force everyday and thank god for those willing to face it head on .

[@veritas6466]

A "fork and a knife" . Cause everybody's gotta eat!

[@23smcclure]

Hey if other SEALs are saying some things went to far such as skinning people and other atrocities maybe instead of making excuses for these people maybe we should listen to what their TEAMATES say..I'm all for killing bad guys..do what u gotta do but after they're dead there is no need to skin or hatchet people.. something is off when people start doing that..what happens when they come home and are out of a war zone out of the military? We should help our vets deal with this not celebrate it..

[@zach1972]

I think their justification is that it happens to our soldiers (The west, I'm not American) Why can't we also do it to them? It's ritualistic, just things to think about

[@M1ndTrix]

Watch your best friends and teammates get shot in the head right beside you and then you can comment on reasons why someone would want to those things to terrorists.

[@jasonowen5450]

The gold Badge looks very similar to the Ukranian SS Galizian Divison Badge from ww2.

[@broflo3875]

Cool story man.

[@coastsalishnative241]

I remember hearing something about how the ambush tactics of the first nations Native American influenced and changed how European military 🪖 fought? Was it like, nations would line up on the battle field and march towards each other until someone won? But first nations tribes didn't fight that way? And it birthed green berets and the Texas rangers? First nations sure are represented a lot in military names like black hawk 🚁, Navajo code talkers ❤

[@AmandaFromWisconsin]

Are you talking about Europe in the Middle Ages? Or in, like, the 18th century?

[@TheShd088x]

Kill the enemy kill the enemy kill the enemy!! There should be no such thing as a war crime! Red Team!!

[@animula6908]

Yeah, I read about some of those enemy dismembering civilians to death to retaliate for them cooperating with Americans and I’m pretty sure I’m not so pure and holy that I would not cherish those videos close to my heart as well. I think this guy is self-righteous and he thinks it’s because he’s a bigger man than someone else, but I think it’s because he’s never been confronted with the level of evil these guys were. Because these guys he’s judging harshly protected his coawardly weak ass from having to fo so. And if he had it would have broke him and he’d have sold his mama to get a chance to flee rather than deal with it.