What the West is getting wrong about Ukraine

While Ukrainians are suffering from the hell of war that has followed the Russian invasion on Feb. 24, debates have raged in the West over how the war started and who is responsible. But if people in the US specifically and the West in general insist on putting themselves at the center of this conflict-whether as the chief instigators or the necessary saviors-they will continue to misunderstand what this war is about and what its outcome will mean for Ukraine, Russia, and the larger geopolitical realignment that is unfolding in real time. In this urgent, unscheduled segment of The Marc Steiner Show, Marc speaks with journalist, activist, and documentary filmmaker Lia Tarachansky about the West’s failure to see Russian imperialism for what it is and to comprehend the reality of a world moving beyond the bounds of Western hegemony.
Lia Tarachansky, born in Ukraine when it was still part of the Soviet Union, is an Israeli-Canadian journalist, documentary filmmaker, and multimedia artist. Tarachansky is TRNN’s former Israel/Palestine correspondent and has directed a number of award-winning feature films and shorts, including On the Side of the Road, Ethnocracy: Israel’s African Refugees, and Ocean.
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[@inquisitive9248]

She tells the story as If Ukraine is United in what it wants. I am a Ukrainian and I will tell you we are not. Donbass region and Crimea requested independence after the coup that overthrew the legitimate democratically elected government. If she is in favor of peoples choices, then Donbass should not have been bombed and shelled by Ukraine during the last eight years.

[@user-nz6vm3wf9n]

This is the kind of stuff I hear on the gray zone and Jimmy dore

[@truthministries77]

USA had a coup as well. I bet long before any of us ever heard the word it was going on. I heard Putin has been sending in unmarked ground troops to help Ukrainians battle those that took over. I feel this is the truth based off some studies on Putin. What do you think ?

[@truthministries77]

And I totally agree! This lady is bias

[@kassemsaid8686]

@C well go back there ..why waste time on here ...

[@Wantar]

Hence Minsk Accords which were never implemented with US blessing, but some presented as implemented even though they didn't include LPR and DPR members which was exactly the opposite of Minsk Accords. After 8 years and 14000 death, about 5600 civilians and 150 children, and those were mostly Donbass civilians, not ukranian army and Azov Battalion. And when Zelensky announced: We'll take Crimea back. in March last year, Russia started sending troops on the border. Not two months ago, when the mass hysteria stared, but a year ago. West knew everything and did nothing. Zelensky shut down three opposition stations. And Azov are not hundred idiots. They are highly trained soldiers who grew in numbers and have US military gear and tech, including tanks. They also have Children Summercamp where they train kids to fight and survive against Russians. BBC and The Guardian reported on that. Ukraine implemented Azov into army. And they are Nazis. If they use blue/yellow (sky and wheat) flag, it often has SS or swastikas in them and they also use Ukraine nazi flag which is red/black (blood and land). Ine of the girls that runs the camp has White Power tatoo on he legs. Everything that was said was correct about Putin playing the West, he destroyed their biolab project, he took over LPR and DPR, cleaned the region and is consolidating forces of the new republics. If Ukraine doesn't want to be sucked in years of mindless conflict, they have a luxury that Assad didn't have in Syria. They can pick up a phone, call US and tell Biden that he can go to hell, then call Putin and agree to declare neutrality and accept independence of LPR and DPR, Crimea isn't even on the tables and also he wants to install his government this time to cement defeat of the West. Which will get rid of Azov in a frw months.

[@christopherburns4808]

Her analysis is insanely both overly simplified and confusing, especially since most of her facts are either based on no evidence or incorrect evidence. She states that Russia is demonstrating that international laws can be violated without repercussions as if this is something new, when the US has been doing just that for over a century and her home nation of Israel does it daily as a matter of policy

[@agluebottle]

Bingo. This interview is equal parts incoherent condescension and Shit Lib Greatest Hits.

[@newsparadigm]

So why would Israel be Arming Neo-Nazis in Ukraine? Are we to think the holocaust as some kind of joke? - tinyurl.com/2tcpkss5

[@lordXAVIJAANBJERGNOG]

Russia did not address the UN about their allegations. They lied about holding military exercises. The US at least asked for permissions before committing war crimes and they voted on it. There are differences here.

[@sensiblehk6859]

@@lordXAVIJAANBJERGNOG Could UN say not to US?

[@zima3181]

@@sensiblehk6859 the left hand can't say no to the right.

[@tonyfernandes2342]

The more I hear this lady's narrative, the more I think Russia is right about the United States, the Collective West and NATO!

[@jbholmes99]

I think it's her condescending tone is what puts it over the top.

[@eliezerribeiro7729]

That's what she wants

[@aaronsullivan1628]

She’s a Nazi supporter.

[@russellabad2271]

Don't forget the IMF the loan broker of the West is included in these too

[@leomoran1907]

Russia's invasion of Ukraine simply would not have happened if Ukraine had honored the Minsk Accords to which it was signatory. Russia, acting as the guarantor of the Accords on behalf of the Donbass, exhausted all other options in trying to enforce the terms of those accords, including getting France and Germany, the guarantors on behalf of Ukraine, to apply pressure on Kyiv to stop their violations of the ceasefire. France and Germany both refused to carry out their roles. Russia, not wanting to in any way violate International Law waited until the Minsk Accords to expire on February 22, 2022 before bringing down military consequences on Ukraine. First, Russia recognized the declared independence of the two provinces of the Donbass (International Law requires only that *ONE* already-recognized sovereign nation recognize such a declaration for that declaration to be legitimate) and they then entered into a mutual defense pact with the two new nations of the Donbass. Under International Law, the invasion of a country that is attacking a member of a MDP by another member of said MDP is a legitimate and lawful action. The West calls the invasion a violation of International Law, but everything was already put in place to make the invasion lawful under International Law *before* the invasion actually took place.

[@philipangelo595]

Leo Moran: That sure is a good description of the legality. Thanks for the information.

[@litlnote-wu6yv]

Russia's invasion of Ukraine would simply never have happened if Russia honoured the Budapest Agreement of which it was a signatory.

[@vincentgallagher7562]

The war could not be conducted without USA funding.

[@protohass]

Everything you said is true none of this would have happened if Ukraine agreed to stop shelling villages and came to an agreement to leave eastern alone and give them equal rights allowing kiev to operate independently Into the eu but sadly like every country who's a western ally gets arrogant and takes directions from Washington on how to run their country and eventually it leads to war I've seen this too many times and it's the same old thing now

[@bushrahussain3005]

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[@giannirocco7492]

Why didn't she say "Zelensky could end this war today and end the suffering of the Ukrainian people by simply declaring Ukraine a neutral nation",she could have said that but she decided to tell everyone the war must continue...

[@user-xi9fc8eo4q]

Neutrality is ok for Ukraine but Russia wants demilitarised Ukraine. That's the red line for Zelensky and Ukrainian now.

[@panpestowski]

Declaring neutrality in this situation is like capitulating. So yeah, anyone can end any war at any moment by capitulating. But that's not exactly advantageous for Ukraine as a state going forward.

[@Recordman42]

@@panpestowski No it is not. It is saving the country over egotistical BS about capitulating and so on..But hey let's put borders and pride over people and see what happens .right ? ...is it good ?

[@giannirocco7492]

@@panpestowski Why would a neutral Ukraine not be the best situation?Plenty of dead citizens and a destroyed nation would be preferable?No,this makes no sense at all...

[@GiordanDiodato]

@@giannirocco7492 Russia would still go in anyway

[@colmf1767]

The way she dismisses Nato & USA's role in this is frightening

[@harveywabbit9541]

The U.S. has financed a war against the Palestinians since 1948. I remember when Israel was bombing schools and hospitals and the U.S. response was to airlift more bombs to Israel.

[@BFaluup]

After reading you’re comment I decided not to watch because as usual it’s an activist posing as an expert.

[@zima3181]

@@BFaluup yeah, I wasted time and peaceful mind.

[@mohammedalduboon7383]

@@zima3181 Likewise

[@singers333]

2014. The cue against democratic elected president

[@nachiketaasthana2295]

She has failed to remember burning episode in Odessa, the Azov regiment with its symbols. She completely failed to mention these facts.

[@exotikz7905]

She also doesn’t even the reason behind the damn war she failed to mention Ukraine’s attempt invasion of the Donbas who’s been shelling them for near a decade even after their agreements and with total nato backing . This is why this has happened they never respected Russia they wanted to challenge them and they got a war .

[@litlnote-wu6yv]

So the people who committed that crime should be caught, tried and if found guilty, be punished. What's the matter with you? You are pushing for collective punishment you bigot.

[@tonidimitrova6078]

But she mentioned Nazis in east Ukraine, like THEY were the Nazis...

[@jbholmes99]

Right. I think she said Russia was funding the neo nazis too!!!@@tonidimitrova6078

[@larryyank3566]

What about the piece, where the language of 1/3 of the population (Russian Speakers) have had their language banned???

[@thesenuts4688]

This has nothing to do with NATO is completely false. Zelensky has always talk about joining into NATO multiple times

[@deathitself6985]

I doubt she is thinking about the Russian vs US on that matter where Putin sees US being hostile and most likely thinks decades ahead. When you flip the scenario what would US do if a Russian lead Nato was surrounding their borders little by little.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

I have doubts about her thesis, but I don't dismiss it. I like the dialectic. See also a Aaron Mate's most recent interview on Push Back, which supports your view.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Her timeline seems to ignore that in 2004, Russia lacked the power to challenge NATO. This was an invasion of opportunity.

[@antap]

So USSR took over the tiny Baltic States for 50 years from 1940 (And Ukraine in 1920), Shipped 200k Ukrainian Crimean Tartars to Uzbekistan, 3 million Ukrainians died under Stalin but Damn them for joining NATO and making a Nuclear Power feel uncomfortable!

[@lordXAVIJAANBJERGNOG]

@@antap nah you just brainwashed by the media. Listen to the real truth. From the russian media. Why would they lie?

[@Anubis2828]

I love how she glossed over the 2014 coup and US involvement in the country. Not a very objective pundit

[@eddierabadan5228]

👌

[@LemonySnicket-EUC]

It's definitely not NATO 🙂

[@odinatra]

OK, mate, humor me. Why was it a coup? Just because RT said so?

[@Anubis2828]

@@odinatra Who told you it wasn't a coup? CNN?

[@odinatra]

@@Anubis2828 I work in Kyiv and was present there.

[@bowmag803]

She conveniently left out the Miz accords that was the frame work for peace that Ukraine kept agreeing to but never in acting.

[@KALComm]

She doesn't seem to take into account that Crimea and southeast Ukraine is Russia's only year round open water port. When it was USSR, it didn't matter who symbolically owned it. But when it is the parcel that closes off access to the Navy and turns those resources into NATO weapons platforms, that would be unacceptable to anyone. I think she has dismissed the NATO aspect prematurely.

[@lancebeamon9729]

I would have expected a much better interview than this from The Real News Network. I'm really disappointed that veteran journalist Mark Steiner of all people would allowed this condescending woman to literally determine the direction of this interview. It's really sad to see even the so called alternative progressive media is beginning to fall in line and paint the same narratives of the mainstream media. It's begining to become quite obvious that real journalism is rapidly becoming a thing of the past.😞

[@kipincharge2833]

CORPORATE MEDIA IS INSANE🙉🙊🙈🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑THEY WANT WW3⚡AT LEAST THEY HAVE REAL CONVERSATION😄

[@jazzypoo7960]

This happened to Mark more than once.

[@ja9795]

I actually didn't see ANY "narrative" being painted; I found it to be a fascinating discussion of the complexities and an attempt to find clarity within that broader perspective.

[@bananhie]

Steiner has gone full war hawk. At first I was excited that he was coming to the Real News but he's one of the weakest links on the network

[@lancebeamon9729]

@@bananhie Yep....what a shame.😞

[@nicolasbouyiouclis4726]

Sir, This Lady never gave an analysis! She actually gave opinions on anything without having anything to back it up...

[@QUINTUSMAXIMUS]

She doesn't seem to really understand Russia, doesn't consider the fact that Putin was angry about NATO offensively going into Libya and emboldening Salafists there and also the US back Alqaeda elements which became ISIS. The US ignored Russia's 2008 objections to including Georgia and Ukraine. I stopped listening after 11:27 because she doesn't under the background and details enough.

[@eatcarpet]

​@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS Yeah she just says some mumbo jumbo while pretending to be some wise shaman. Why is TRNN even hiring her? SMH.

[@gmw3083]

She's a shill for the corrupt establishment. But she does make some good points.

[@newsparadigm]

Lia Tarachansky presents a predictably biased viewpoint. She claims to be objective but has obviously failed that journalistic standard.

[@eleanoraquitaine2966]

Never heard of her.

[@tatianalyulkin410]

For me the clock started ticking when in 1976 my father and I took a tour of the West Ukraine. And I... didn't know where I was. Everything was so unlike my Kharkiv. And the amount of judgement, the fanaticism, the total inability to empathize with us who came from a totally Russified city was staggering.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

Ukrainian Insurgent Army.

[@imranr4374]

Mark Steiner, thank you so much for bringing this discussion. You need to understand that America has already lost the international trade and the petrol dollar is being replaced. Therefore, American has to resort to war to cause further destabilization in the World for its existence in the financial World. Lives of innocent people is being sacrificed for the corporate world leaders and it is very sad to see that human life has no values. It is very annoying to see this keeps happening because of superiority.

[@moussa8512]

" it's not about NATO expansion " the moment she said this i knew she's a state media

[@marimbadearco]

No, she’s just wrong

[@davidstone2700]

@@marimbadearco or too much involved.

[@misterezra1]

FACTS!💯

[@kentaylor5842]

Right ! I wished he pushed back more and mentioned the Minsk agreement that Ukraine and NATO violated, Putin didn't care about Ukraine being independent, this dumb ass lady is spreading propaganda

[@mohammedalduboon7383]

@@davidstone2700 From Ukraine to a settlement in the West Bank. To analyse what’s happening in Ukraine now. I was thinking I’m missing something

[@wachowski9525]

I’m so glad everyone is calling out how awful and condescending this women is, how she tries to sound more wise than she is, and she doesn’t like hard questions lol

[@wachowski9525]

I will say she has some nice insight, once she gets going in answering a question

[@natepolitics1490]

@@wachowski9525 I been listening to it in 5 minutes and she sounds like a jack butt. He brought her on to explain things but she just made things more confusing.

[@anna45333]

@@natepolitics1490 Here is what happened (there is more to it but i would need to write a book to cover everything so i ll just go with this: So to that lady on the video if i would adress her i d tell her this: You "almost" had it but something gave you out. A slight mistake. And Russia is not so interested of the west part of Ukraine for now at least 1) because to get there Russia needs to take the other areas first otherwise it risks to get cut off if it pushes too much forward. and 2) Russia cares more to take the areas where Russian speakers live. The Ukranian speakers can be left alone as long as they demilitarize. And as for your narrative. The Crimea had a referendum that and got 97% to join Russia. So your storytelling is not correct there. You "forgot" to mention the referendum of Crimaia. And you forgot to mention the slaughter in Odessa by neonazis against the people of Odessa that wanted to do the same at Crimea but the neonazis that NATO was training them massacred the people of Odessa into the trade union headquarters building where they burnt them alive or throw them from windows. You somehow "forgot" to tell all that. And you also "forgot" to mention that Zelenski updated that discrimination law of Porosenko and declared the russian speakers as inexistend as well as Greeks. And prohibited them to talk their language and also Zelenski used groups of neonazis to police people to not speak Russian amd beating or harassing them, and they were going into shops ingognito and were hearing what the people was speaking and if anyone was speaking russian they were beating them or send them to prison. As it it would be easy for a Russian to speak Ukrainic... it was not a matter of will. Its just that is very hard to speak a similar language but with quite diferent pronounce in basic words. It would be much easier to make them speak English than have them to speak Ukrainic. I think the USA realized their "old story" starts to crumble so they inventing now a new story to include the neonazi groups they previously hadn;t mentuined and they try to include them too in the picture but as Putin's affliliates. Which doesnt make sensse since in Meidan it was the neonazis that got control of the buiildings and chased Yanukovits away. And of course you forgot to mention that all that happened because Yanukovits had said NO to the IMF. And USA wanted a puppet president like Porosenko to say YES to IMF because its through IMF that they strip the countries of their wealth and sovereinty.. I know it because my country Greece sufffered the same fate because of IMF everything was sold to foreign firms. Even the ports. And the IMF prescription made life in Ukraine much worse. , salaries went down, unemployment hit hard, pensions went lower and the country stoped producing. They even imported COAL from the USA despoite the fact that the country is very rich in coal just because IMF didn't want the state to invest in local mining of the resource. And all that damaged severly the economy so that USA makes more money. And now USA is using Russians(Ukrainians) to kill Russians (cause USA consideres you ALL RUSSIANS and USA in fact is very happy that either Ukranians or Russians get killed cause for them you are all "dirty Russians" They just pretend now they love Ukraine. They are evil snakes and you Ukranians are the useful fools.

[@aether888]

@@natepolitics1490 precisely

[@michelegosse7116]

she is ukrainian in Canada, good insight into the community there, did you follow the frieland-trudeau performance these last years, and the reaction to the russian move?

[@brianporter9508]

She prevents a version with a 'comfortable' narrative. She tidy's the story into a version that's very ambiguous. She deliberately avoids questions and answers.

[@allanspector7122]

She never mentions the Minsk agreement which Ukraine violated!

[@smellycat249]

This woman can’t answer any questions than says it’s all simple then can’t answer questions. Nice expert

[@audiofunkdialect]

Well don’t concentrate on that part of what shes saying just listen to all of the facts that she’s laying out.

[@theprinceofcrows8691]

Yeah I am not impressed with her take on this either. I understand some bits here and there but it seems she is trying to fit the struggle into a narrative you can say fits her other subject areas well like Palestine and their struggle for self determination. I don't think it fits the same framework but she seems to be trying to shove a square peg into a circular hole. She is letting her view of everything outside of Palestine become seen through a Palestine lens. It is easy to do when you invest yourself so passionately into a subject and I am not trying to find fault with her or be critical, but I do believe that is what is going on here. I want to hear her work on that subject because I bet she has some great understanding on that struggle.

[@theprinceofcrows8691]

@@audiofunkdialect yeah that is what I do sometimes too. She has insights that are valuable and facts to share too.

[@hanna8418]

@I am Winston Smith, I completely agree with you. She sounds like she’s trying not to slip and say something that she really doesn’t want to reveal.

[@theprinceofcrows8691]

@@hanna8418 I agree and thanks for sharing that with me. I appreciate your insight.

[@DynV]

In 2004 Russia was not in a position to oppose NATO, it was still recovering from the *devastating* 1990s economic war on it. Your guest seems to be quite knowledgeable about the subject, she is doing selective narrative, and I'd say while pretending she's neutral.

[@MrDXRamirez]

That is the western analysis...what is the Russian analysis of the same period?

[@Alieth]

During the Russian civil war, Russia was in no position to keep a hold of its Balkan and Ukrainian territories. Yet a few years later the soviets did retake those countries against the will of the people living there. If we look at it now Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are free and independent while Ukraine is being invaded, they definitely had a right to feel threatened by Russia

[@mssueybear]

Fair amount of that at the moment unfortunately

[@thechloromancer3310]

@@Alieth To be frank, the entirety of Europe now appears to be a colony of the US. Major economies like Germany, France, the UK, Italy, etc, eagerly followed the US-led economic war and proxy war against Russia, to the disastrous detriment of their own populations. The European leadership class is dominated by puppets who look to Washington D.C. for instruction. Tragically, this war could have been avoided by: 1) upholding the promise of no NATO expansion towards Russia's border as promised in 1990 - something any single NATO country could have accomplished; and 2) pressuring Ukraine to adhere to the Minsk Agreement II - something France or Germany could have done given they were guarantors of the agreement. As a member of the West (Canadian citizen), I have nothing but contempt for our leadership. The unwillingness to honour our promises makes us honourless dogs. The fact that we neglect national interests in order to cater to the US' deranged geopolitical warmongering is pathetic beyond belief. And the inability of the regular citizen to see beyond the garbage sold by the corporate media is disgusting. After the 2003 lraq WMD false narratives, we have zero excuse for our intellectual laziness. The people of East Ukraine were disenfranchised in 2004 (US-engineered Orange Revolution), disenfranchised again in 2014 (US-engineered coup called the Maidan Revolution), experienced the suppression of their language, education, culture, media, and political parties since 2014, and have been shelled by naughzee-infested paramilitary groups since 2014. I find it absolutely disheartening that people like yourself speak of freedom while ignoring the plight of the Russian-speaking peoples of Eastern and Southern Ukraine. I can only wonder if your double-standards are due to ignorance or hypocrisy.

[@johnshackford5929]

If you dig into the archives of the negotiations after the Soviet breakup. The Ukraine has always been the red line on NATO expansion. The reason for this is because of her strategic location. The US wants to put Naval bases on the Black sea they need control of the Ukraine to do this that's why in 2008 Bushed annouced that the Ukraine and Georgia would join NATO. She mentionS that three counties share a border with Russian and asked why Putin didn't respond then. The answer is because none of those nations have the military power to be a threat to Russia. The Ukraine however is differrent they have had a simmering hatred for Russia for centuries and with an ultra right nationalist fascist government they are the perfect tool to use to Push Nato into the Ukraine. the Ukraine provides a direct route from western Europe into Russia. She has deep water ports that allow the movement of war materials. Putin knows this it's why he's not trying to take the whole of Ukraine and only the historically Russian parts .

[@GorillaTVe]

wow.. i have heard the western version of the ukraine situation and the russian version, this lady has her very OWN version.😄

[@makishavadjias8696]

what was wrong with putin asking ukraine to not ban the russian langage in the east ? can you please explain

[@thedancingveganatheist6310]

"Ukranians are very clear." No they're not. They have VAST internal disagreements.

[@jamesrowlands8971]

She goes from on one hand saying they are diverse, to saying they are very clear. Ukrainian ethnic nationalists are clear on what they want. Ukrainian Roma are too. The latter group wants to not be exterminated by the former, and vice versa. Yet she puts forward the position of the former. What a disgusting human being.

[@Too-Odd]

Ultranationalist Right Sector, Azov, C15, and Banderites are very clear. They are also very wrong.

[@karl6701]

They did, the government has now imprisoned most of the opposition.

[@lordXAVIJAANBJERGNOG]

@@karl6701 Along with all the spies and traitors.

[@justicar5]

@@karl6701 evidence, beyond the actual collaborators/agents being locked up for actually criminal acts.

[@jelilabudu]

Lia, Russia never stopped pumping gas and oil to the West. The West rather sanctioned Russia including banning its oil and gas. In any case if you were President Putin, what would you have done if a trading partner, like the West in this context, threatened your business and livelihood?

[@basook6116]

this why USA is asking for more oil from countries they invaded

[@chickenlover657]

Don't forget your very safety.

[@johanmetreus1268]

Oil and gas were explicitly excepted from the EU-sanctions, leading to loads of criticism from both Ukraine and USA. That is easily verified with a google search. The deliveries of gas suddenly faced "technical difficulties" according to Gazprom, as explanation as to why 40% of the agreed deliveries hadn't been made.

[@ericadc7745]

She is so angry, it’s hard to listen to her. She picks on every question he asks so it makes me stop and listen elsewhere.

[@ebrahimmohamed1273]

Why does she not mention what has been unfolding on the ground since 2008. Why?

[@onestraw-zx1ph]

At around the 12:30 point she claims that in 2014 Russia sent "forces to neo Nazis" in the eastern Ukraine to divide the country, something to that effect. This is an absolute inversion of facts. It is well documented that far right nationalists and neo Nazi elements in the Ukraine army WERE the ones that were involved in the war against the Russian speaking Donbass Ukrainians who did not accept the coup against a democratically elected government with lots of supporters from the eastern regions. And I thought the title of this video would give some enlightening facts BUT the guest is a very misleading person. Her version of reality is upside down.

[@chickenlover657]

This woman is just a liar and propagandist. Probably paid to create more confusion and spread more "theories" to bury the truth.

[@mjp7022]

She also neglects to mention that the right wing Azov brigade with it's strong neo-nazi leanings, was funded by the Jewish Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoyskyi and that one of Azov's Euro Maidan revolution commanders, is Nathan Khazin who is also Jewish and is part of the Azov forces terrorising the people of Donbass.

[@johanmetreus1268]

You think it's a secret that the off-shoots of RNU and their likes were the first to arrive in Donbas, staging the separatist movement? During the war in 2014, Nazis fom both Norway, Sweden and Finland went there to "fight for the CAUSE!". The friction between the groups when coming home after have been shooting at EACH OTHER is well documented, as there were the Russian Nazis sent there, and the Ukrainian Nazis fighting them from the start, and the Nazis here just went t the first country they got hold of Nazis in through the Nazi group network that spans from Russia through Europe to USA. Long story short, both Russia and Ukraine found their Nazi groups useful tools for subversion, quick response and cannon fodder and have been actively using them. There is one difference though, in Ukraine there is a new government, fully democratically elected (where the Ukrainian Nazis and nationalists did not even manage to reach 2% of the votes), while Russia is still lead by Putin who eliminated the opposition in a literal sense.

[@karl6701]

Yup that was crazy to hear. Just made me think either complete brainwashing or saying things wrong on purpose, either way it really negates most of the rest of her arguements if she can get something like that, that wrong.

[@truthseeker9958]

She gave a straw man argument, and she sounded like a controlled opposition

[@Kayzef2003]

This woman is talking out of her backside.

[@winstonsmith7686]

Please elaborate..

[@chickenlover657]

@@winstonsmith7686 This woman is just a liar and propagandist. Probably paid to create more confusion and spread more "theories" to bury the truth and make it look like just another "theory" itself. Old tactic. Despicable, but effective among the naive and uninformed masses.

[@nottheweather438]

​@@winstonsmith7686Her arse, is on the front of her face.. It's painted with lipstick.. She's talking through it.

[@tuber00009]

I think she is very attached to her world view.

[@gerrychartrand360]

delusional

[@fise5271]

What a world salad performance from the lady... ! Impressed

[@nadiasartscrafts4528]

Very poor analysis by this woman. It not just about territories, it is about Ukranian nationalists who were killing their own people just because they had Russian passports. Their slogans were "Ukraine is for Ukranians". How is it even allowed in modern society?

[@joeyartk]

People like this make you cheer Russia on.

[@r3fus32d13]

facts. I tend to be neutral in this conflict but the more the west supports pundits like her the more I see where real evil resides..

[@SamsonZoomBespoke]

russian boys are dying along with the future population. china will take over the oil fields in the east

[@grahamsmithwick6822]

Why did you not ask her to explain how the 2014 Maedon coup and resulting civil war and shelling of Easter Ukraine were only the ostensible not the root causes of the Feb 23 , 2022 Russian invasion?

[@analogoustroll2892]

You are a gentleman. That is a unique view, indeed - incomprehensible.

[@user-jq8jm8no2p]

If only she could just be a liiiiiiiittle more condescending in her delivery I could really respect her point of view!

[@tmsphere]

baby needs mommy figure to stroke his head and sing him lullibies.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

I adore her style. I can exhale, finally.

[@tarobinson7411]

What point of view?

[@kevincrady2831]

@@tarobinson7411 It's complex, somethingsomething Israel-Palestine. 😂

[@r3fus32d13]

I definetly wouldnt want to be her son or daughter... She talks to all of us like we are toddlers that cant think for ourself.. Disgusting behaviour thats encouraged by the media

[@standingalone001]

It’s rather rare that someone aggravates me as much as the guest has done. Her analysis was not nuanced but insane

[@alanwhaats7633]

*The reason her narrative and opinion aggravated you is because she didn't say your western skewed narrative that you were expecting from her!!*

[@standingalone001]

@@alanwhaats7633 hahaha. Look at my other post below. My view is considered treasonous in the West & falls far more in line with Russia's. So, you are just wrong.

[@REDTEK161]

@@alanwhaats7633 That's a lazy argument. Dismissing those who place primary blame on US and NATO isn't a product of western self-importance, its just an acknowledgement of the indisputable history of the US and NATO meddling in the region.

[@wiltonhall]

Yeah I was shocked. This should have been deleted, not posted.

[@johanmetreus1268]

@@wiltonhall good to know your views of democracy and freedom of speech.

[@actualfacts1055]

The way that this will end is that America will give up and Zelensky will be living in a mansion in Monte Carlo.

[@rmfellows]

I'm happy to see the predominance of critical comments. The things left out of her narrative are screaming in the background.

[@artiezonk]

I wish that Western media would interview the regular folk from Eastern Ukraine. I'd love to hear what they have to say about the last decade.

[@jamesrowlands8971]

They're too afraid of getting on the Ukrainian kill list for journalists to do that.

[@lordXAVIJAANBJERGNOG]

@@jamesrowlands8971 Like the one the pro-Russian Yanukovich had before he ran away and this whole conflict started?

[@jamesrowlands8971]

@@lordXAVIJAANBJERGNOG what's your source for him having one?

[@michaelmullins3396]

You can only rely on the likes of Patrick Lancaster, Eva Bartlett, Grahan Phillips for independent reporting from the east Ukraine.

[@robricketts340]

@@michaelmullins3396 yes I agree and the Sky/BBC News coverage is so one-sided and delusional

[@lazylight007]

I am sorry but this interview does not add anything that hasn’t already been established by Corporate Media . . .

[@truthministries77]

Agreed! Propaganda crap

[@NS-ls2yc]

Totally agree 👍 another propoganda crap by "West".

[@gerrychartrand360]

this woman is delusional, and wrong

[@121551011]

She is claiming that there is such a thing as international rules which seem to be applied to Russia but not the US and the western allies.

[@hermanhandbrush4402]

Frankly, I'm not sure what to think of this. It's very different from anything I've heard in some ways, and very troubling.

[@QUINTUSMAXIMUS]

I am not sure I agree with her. Russia showed vociferous opposition in 2008 to Georgia and Ukraine entering. She ignores the 2007 Munich speech and also Putin's anger at NATO offensively going into Libya and then the US backing Alqaeda in Syria. Putin's sentiments towards the West was very different in 2004 compared to 2008 and then the Libya invasion by NATO and then the backing of Salafists in Syria. Of course, his actions in Ukraine have to do with him being upset with NATO and the West and trying to show them that they can't simply do whatever they want with no consequences and wherever they want.

[@youbean6664]

Your so right about this, imagine where Russia is Geographically, just north of the Middle East and watching what the West has been doing over there for the last 20 years; imagine being that close...if you were Putin you would have to be thinking, no i don't want to end up dead with a Bayonet up my As* and 'ole Hill open mouthed laughing about it...just psychologically speaking. Not to mention the bio-labs and the Silo's pointing at Russia they'd want to place...(NATO). But, I do get that the Petro dollar is hanging in the balance, but NATO put it there. Calling someone else the bad guy, while ignoring all the facts is going to get us nowhere, this calls for Diplomacy at all costs, then they can all go straight down to Palestine and figure that mess out...she did get that right, but was that just a ploy. ? I wonder...

[@tatianabrown6903]

It's not only about NATO, so it's a part of the sanario. Ukraine is not just one united people who are being tossed about by US, Nato expansion, EU and politics but the "Soul" of the matter is by far a religious persecution of the western right vs the Slavic Soul of the citizens of a land that has as its Culture: God and Earth. What I mean my this. Ukraine was the Religious Center of Russia with Kiev being its Holy Seat since its Baptism in 988. The Birth of the "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church" was the beginning of the Land of Russia becoming Christian ☦️. But do to its neighbors who had Rome as its Religious Center and greed and jealousy started taking hold of them. We want some nourshering landscape with rich soil, farmland as far as the eye can see, beautiful Churches, Monasteries and pious citizens enjoying their serene lifestyle: God and Country. The West was not happy; envy became so severe that they had to destroy and invade and get their hands on Land, Church and the folks who were basically farmers and had big families and Sunday was Church and Family members bring together worshipping God and enjoying the fruits of the land. In 1054 Rome under Pope Gregory changed the Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar but the Slavic Nations did not adhear to this and Rome was not happy. Crusades that were started to bring Christianity to the heathen lands in the East decided to stop on the way in the Ukraine. That was the beginning of what multiplied since then in the Ukraine. Under the banner of Rome Ukraine became what happened to her from the 12th Century. Russia moved its Seat from Kiev to Moskau and hoped things would calm down. But the devil never sleeps. Marxism moved into Russia, Socialism to Communism took over schools. Children were socialized not to listen to parents, not to have to attend church and you got what the whole Western World bought into. After WWII nazim moved into the Ukraine and lived there quietly until Russian Orthodox Christians started being persecuted by this false ukr nationalistic party that wanted to have it both ways. Their is much more to be said but space and time does not allow it. The fake government of ukr is being supported by us. The tru Ukr Church is being persecuted by its government. And our tax $$$$ supporting this. It's truly an abominable injustice that we have set up there and supporting.

[@fredjones43]

Greta synopsis Bazil. I would super thumbs up if they had one.

[@38gonzaga]

@@tatianabrown6903 Yes, all western and Zionist news are clearly lying in support of western hegemony, with no regard for facts, I hope soon Russia stops this , as they have offered peace , asking neutrality, several times, denying this at the western requires. When Russia ends this finally, this will stop western hegemony!

[@tatianabrown6903]

@@38gonzaga glad you understand what is happening; if the US and Nato expansion did not promote a war, there wouldn't be one. Russia had no intention occupying UKr: all Russia wanted was help the poor Orthodox Christians in Eastern Ukr who have been persecuted for years. Now the Z regime are even locking the Ukrainion Orthodox Christians out of their Churches and Monasteries that how evil this government is. US is on the wrong pass.

[@jan-martinulvag1953]

She is saying there was no Victoria Nuland and no coo ?

[@mindspanconsultants]

Am sure English is not your first language, and you are doing well, but coup is what Nuland does, and coo is what pigeons do :)

[@r3fus32d13]

@@mindspanconsultants Its a way to avoid being censored in comments bcuz certain keywords and joos will get you flagged and your comment will magically disappear!

[@AriBenDavid]

@@mindspanconsultants Victoria is no dove: conversely, a warmonger.

[@AahFukIt]

​@@AriBenDavida dove in disguise, I remember her handing out cookies back in 2014

[@WilliamElston]

How far the Real News Network has fallen. It's time to show Marc Steiner the door.

[@virel206]

OK madam please talk about the Minsk agreement thank you

[@murielkinsella3526]

The impression given by Lia is that Russia is the only player in this conflict that censors and punishes dissenters. She's actually very persuasive because she brooks no disagreement about her take on the issue. She's incredibly dogmatic.

[@fredjones43]

I would go so far as to say she is FOS.

[@FrancisE.Dec.Esquire]

Ukraine is a Nazi Nation, How many Nazi Death Camps were located in Ukraine during WW2? Why are Ukraine still a Nazi leaning nation? They are JEW HATERS, they have Nazi Theology.

[@fredjones43]

@@FrancisE.Dec.Esquire With Stephan Bandera Day celebrations. I told my son that and his response was “Wagner (one of the private Russian military formations) is NAZI”. He is US Military and a lifer, so I guess that is what they are telling them. This was last year and at the time I could not argue with him; I could now.

[@inquisitive9248]

@@fredjones43 you are a wise man!

[@richardprokopczyk9255]

AThis broad just can't answer a question

[@Thelooneylink]

There is Russia's side, Ukraine's side, the US side's, EU's side and there is the truth.

[@dalehill559]

NO, those are the PERCIEVED SIDES !, as Our STILL ! Pres Trumpenator said to U.S. P@tr!Qts in June, 2020, WE'VE DONE MOST of THE HEAVY WORK ALREADY, THE PEOPLE NEED TO DO THEIR PARTS, NOW ENJOY THE SHOW😁 !, 🤨⚖️🦅🇺🇸😎😉, Mac'Chaughleh, WWG1WGA&QA's2, Ayuh

[@andrewmah5605]

International Professor of United Nations Law. Alfred de Saye and The Schiller Institute Views

[@jlorde8838]

@@dalehill559 doesn't anybody know how big of a criminal Zelenskyy is?

[@tmsphere]

which is??????????????????????????????????????????????

[@au7weeng534]

in truth, the earth is an "oblate spheroid", but surely saying that it's spherical is a lesser sin against truth than that it's flat

[@teddylabis6969]

Ukraine 🎉has the best got talent show. ❤

[@naderzekrya5238]

You can feel this lady's grudges, non-depth and yes, "oversimplification"

[@jbouma7551]

This poor lady is guilty of doing exactly what she accuses the west of doing by explaining the situation in Ukraine based off her opinion. Sadly she doesn't even seem understand the complicated division and history of her own culture.

[@3-Kashmir]

What do you think on this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHKoqpWKo9hjgsk

[@miva717]

makes total sense to me . try to be objective and you will get it

[@jbouma7551]

@@miva717 unfortunately propaganda makes sense to many... try to be logical and maybe you will get it

[@miva717]

@J Bouma where do you get your logic in rap music this is few levels above

[@jbouma7551]

@@miva717 yes, I learned Ukraine/Russia history from rap music 😅 ... if this was true, then shouldn't I be parroting media talking points with you?

[@armandoramirez9159]

When people say it’s complicated it means they haven’t got a clue.

[@truthministries77]

Exactly. She stated that then went on and on with her obvious hate for Putin. He must have turned her down when she offered him a sexual favor or something 🤣

[@kassemsaid8686]

Well, how's about giving them one ...go on ...

[@ellengran6814]

In my view, its possible to make it less complicated. Look at maps and statistics. Were are wars fought, who gets sanctioned by US, where does the money flow (who gets rich/poor). Facts and numbers.

[@panpestowski]

When people say it’s simple, it means their mind is simple and can’t comprehend immense complexities of such situations.

[@dalehill559]

@@ellengran6814 That was the OLDE DYNAMIC, THROW THAT BOOK OUT THE WINDOW FOR THE MOST PART !, Our YESSS HE * STILL ! * IS Pres Trumpenator, Our P@tr!Qt Military and the 30+ Nations Leadrrs and their Military's ARE IN CONTROL, deepstate Masters have most uf not ALL, BEEN NEUTRALIZED !. The People MUST DO THEIR PART TO SECURE THEIR n THEIR COUNTRY'S FREEDOMS, TRUST THE PLAN !, IT'S WERK'N, 🤨⚖️🦅🇺🇸😎😉, Mac'Chaughleh, WWG1WGA&QA's2, Ayuh

[@cocosocialistrat8979]

GOD this didn’t age well as more and more information has been exposed since this interview.

[@charleshart8641]

This lady was trying to confuse one with her analysis. Latvia , Lithuania etc are not of strategic importance but Ukraine is cos of Russian naval fleets .crimea and dunbass are mostly of Russian native speaking and had asked for seperation from Ukraine without Russian intervention. A peaceful way would be allowing dunbass region who wanted independence to be free and asking Russians to vacate dunbass without war. Please the lady is pro western Ukraine , let's hear from someone from dunbass... that person won't blame putin but accused the West.

[@David-mo5gj]

Once again, I was drawn in by the caption, " What the West is getting wrong about Ukraine," from a real Ukrainian, Journalist, Activist, documentary filmmaker, AND, the can't go wrong with, "multi-media ARTIST" all the while, I was craving for a bowl of granola to watch this interview. But she dropped me with her assurance, "This has nothing to do with NATO" and her condescending tone that we've all got it wrong because she's the REAL DEAL. Here's an anecdote to her, "It ain't about NATO, stupid"--"Why is Ukraine the West's Fault" on youtube with John Mearsheimer--who isn't a Ukrainian or does Macrame.

[@griffinclayton8643]

My friend from Ukraine said the same thing, I was kinda surprised but hearing from another and now this interview I kinda think that’s a lot of Ukrainian peoples views, and it that this war has pretty much been going on since 2014, but none of this is happening in a vacuum, Canada and other nato countries have been training units in Ukraine since then

[@elenarusseva9550]

Thank you. I was about to waste another 30min.

[@alphie20]

She was terrible. Embarrassing. So much needless hostility towards the host.

[@ja9795]

@@alphie20 Interesting viewpoint, but I really didn't see evidence of "hostility". What I observed is that she expressed a different viewpoint, and the host himself relayed over and over that he thought her viewpoint was important! It didn't seem that he interpreted her expression as being in any manner, hostile.

[@pranays]

You and John Mearsheimer has Child like understand of what NATO is.

[@blackbird-25]

Have to say I agree about the larger picture re the developing south. But this is entirely about NATO. Ukraine's membership of NATO was the final straw. The Russians said NO, but the west didn't listen. Instead they continued making Ukraine into a defacto NATO member even though they knew they had no intention of making it a formal member anytime soon. They did this by arming and training the Ukrainian military, the ultra nationalist militias included.

[@johanmetreus1268]

If Kremlin sees NATO as such a threat, why have they then almost emptied Kaliningrad for troops, reduced the St Petersburg air-defences by 75% and moved the Arctic brigade from Murmansk AFTER Finland was accepted as invitee?

[@JohnJohn-cu7nk]

Personal I don't think the people who instigated this war give a monkeys about Ukrainian.They just wanted to force Russia into an aggressive action so they could shut down the trade market in the western world.The same reason the Wuhan virus was leaked and spread around the globe. Theirs a concerted effort to collapse the west and spread the power of the big corporative entities throughout the world. Or the One world order as it's known

[@nabinom3699]

She presented one of the best analyses so far. Bravo and thank you

[@Dabooshky]

You both are so funny! Just funny! :-D

[@BarbarraBay]

the borders of Ukraine were created by the Soviet Union therefore it seems the speaker cannot make the simple statement "Ukraine declared independence after the Soviet Union collapsed" as though this is not related to the Soviet Union

[@tmsphere]

Im sorry that's how independence works, Ukraine wasnt an independent country before 1991 Lenin did not make independent Ukraine. Lenin did not invent Kievan rus.

[@johanmetreus1268]

Also, Ukraine was an independent country between the Russian revolution and the conquest by the Bolsheviks in 1922.

[@xhorxheetxeberria-td1hu]

@Johan Metreus Not the Ukraine you see now. Only a small piece close to Poland. Ukraine that you see now was created by the USSR. It gave pieces of the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic, of the Moldovan Soviet Socialist Republic, of Belarusian Soviet Socialist Republic, of Poland, of Hungary and of the Czechslovakia to the newly formed Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Including in 1963, Crimea. So no Ukraine is not was Ukraine is today and it hasn't been that ever before 1991.

[@sabrinashahab795]

She lied about that too . Ukraine did not declare independence after the collapse of Soviet Union . Boris Yeltsin declared the end of Soviet Union in consultation with Belarus and Ukraine . Ukraine got its independence with consent from Russia , it did not fight and win its independence

[@MrGolov-te5eb]

Her “NATO is not the reason because the Baltic States joined in 2004.” is flawed. Russia in 2004 wouldn’t dare to respond to the West. It’s a different story nowadays.

[@Aard-Vark]

Yeah, she undercuts her own argument when stating that the recent economic and energy deals with China allowed Putin to make this move.

[@VaQm11]

@@Aard-Vark I think she stated it differently: That the war made possible these energy deals with China. A shift that would not have been possible without the circumstance of war and western sanctions.

[@Aard-Vark]

@@VaQm11 Russians don't take a dump without a plan.

[@MrGolov-te5eb]

@@Aard-Vark and they don’t bluff.

[@teslastellar]

@@VaQm11 But didn't that happen before the war?

[@wrcurley]

"...the world has moved on." True that.

[@ronjcharity]

Will we ever know the full story? The damage has been done, we have been set back 50 years….it’s a mess.

[@treefrog3349]

The bottom lie is this : there are many, many innocent non-partisan individuals and families on BOTH sides who are being dragged into the bottomless vortex of competing monied interests of different countries. The real tragedy is that thousands of innocents will die, while the real culprits will be able to continue regardless of the outcome.

[@smolbodybuilder1602]

not trying to sound stupid but isnt just putin the culprit?

[@jessicaconeja5290]

treefrog3349 Correct that's what happens in war, but what brothers me most is that no one is talking about how to end it. Why aren't people talking to their leaders and encouraging peace talks instead of pointing fingers and taking sides? Most countries have no business using valuable resource and human lives after a "pandemic" and economic crisis. History has shown us again and again that this is poor planning and leadership for citizens around the world. This is a time for peace union and collaboration ✌️❤️

[@matthewkopp2391]

@@smolbodybuilder1602 No. the USA has been involved in Ukraine since 1991 and supported a type of vulture capitalism which has been terrible for the average Ukrainian. Plus the US has funded extremist groups to serve as a proxy army and far right ethnonationalist politicians because they are against Russia. Russia certainly has mining and strategic interests as well, but their concern for Russian speakers is real. And this entire conflict started after a US backed coup where the US supported literal Nazi. A sane solution would have been to negotiate for a Neutral non-NATO Ukraine with a multi-polar economic and trade agreement. And a mutual agreement to disempower extremist nationalist politics. What this would do is create an equal investment playing field where Ukraine supports only the companies and nations that serve their financial interests. For example if there is a mining contract operation and Russia offers a better deal than EU or USA etc. then they win a contract or vice versa. What has been happening mainly is the USA trying to monopolize economic interests. And the USA CIA and State Department has created a mess.

[@smolbodybuilder1602]

@@matthewkopp2391 thank you a lot! I changed my mind since writig this comment. can you give me link to useful videos/ informatil to better understand?

[@VV-sn3fh]

@@matthewkopp2391 very comprehensive analysis, congrats.

[@puhelimentili805]

I think she raises good points but her glaring omision of the role of the US empire in the Maidan coup is the consequence of her naive dismissal of what she called the "global Brzinski chessboard philosophization of what could be at play here". Russia's invasion of Ukraine was to a LARGE extent a reaction to what she doesn't even acknowledge even happened.

[@jackwalker1822]

This war started with the Maiden coup when Ukraine decided to declare war on many fronts against all ethnic Russians living within the Ukrainian borders at the time. Also Ukraine has cozied up to NATO and the US and pushing the idea of moving weaponry and military might into Ukraine to threaten Russia. This goes back to WW II when Russia, then the Soviet Union and Stalin, watched as Germany amassed military force up to the Russian border. In a way I feel that this war is like a delayed reaction to go back to animosities from WW II.

[@ayalneh1245]

The best presentation on the side of Ukraine, though some facts are destorted.

[@hawkbartril3016]

What a joke. When she said "how long did it take for god to make the earth" that was me. As she admitted she is confused

[@aj9973]

"Which is exactly what he wants" and right away: "you don't know what's on his mind". Contradiction? Or "only I know what Putin thinks, listen to me"?

[@chickenlover657]

She's just full of it.

[@obsoleteelite8258]

This is the worst guest I’ve ever heard on any channel of world affairs.

[@lilyrose3145]

I agree

[@flyingsunbeds909]

I began watching this with great hope. After getting over her unsettling condescension I continued listening. The borders of the Ukrainian SSR established by the USSR were unrealistic and Krushchev didn't help things with his 1954 Crimea decision. But up to 2014 things were relatively ok. Then came the 2014 coup, Western involvement, the flight of the democratically elected President and laws reducing the Russian language. Add to that the never ending desire by Washington to humiliate and encircle Russia (the Drang nach Osten). Russia didn't react until this policy arrived at Georgia and then Ukraine. Apart from Crimea, Ukraine could have remained intact if it had gone along with Minsk. I'm tired of Russia being blamed for everything and with the US fixation with Russia. At the start Putin tried to become friends with the West but Washington would have none of it. It must be regime change. Not to mention the Biden family...

[@jgarbo3541]

Nice girl, but she omitted the Nazis burning ethnic Russians alive in Odessa...and 8 yrs bombardment of Donbas killing 15000 civilians.

[@fattonyd232]

what she leaves out is that the US lost the moral high ground in Iraq so how can she argue now that we have to do something about russian imperialism?

[@VaQm11]

You are right about the U.S. 'losing' the moral high ground (it didn't have that to begin with, but alright). She argued against U.S. imperialism then. And I think when she talks about 'we', she doesn't necesseraly mean: the U.S.A. but (I think we can savely assume): people that are against imperialism (many of those being U.S. citizens).

[@GiordanDiodato]

Iraq was because of a dictator

[@fattonyd232]

@@GiordanDiodato Iraq was about supposed weapons of mass destruction and mobile chemical labs and babies being taken from incubators, all of which turned out to be false

[@fattonyd232]

@@GiordanDiodato kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZy1qp-DfLGDg7c

[@joni8090]

America Administration are Britains Prodigy , pure imperialists ! 🇷🇺💲🇨🇳

[@bassoprof]

Lady, please say something that makes sense...

[@neznameythaler1910]

Peace,peace and peace

[@patrickfoley2838]

If the Minsk agreement had been respected we wouldn't be where we are now

[@MsColl90]

When she talks about Ukrainians she clearly isn’t including the Russian speaking Ukrainians in the East. Which is part of the problem.

[@christopherhaley1964]

As a critical English man I also see the continuity of British imperial ambitions in Ukraine. In the 1850s the British and French armies attacked Criimea and besieged the imperial Russian fortress at Sewastopol, where Tolstoi was based, eventually leafing to his War and Peace novel. I think the interview underestimates and doesn't go into NATO and Pentagon policy on Ukraine which has been, according to MATO experts such as Dr Wolfgang Effenberger, to destabilize it and cause war there.

[@tatianabrown6903]

Very sad that the Western leaders have no concept of Eastern European culture, especially Slavic People and that they are using Ukraine to get at Russia. NATO was supposed to be dismantled after USSR no longer existed and Germany was Unified.

[@kelvinpell4571]

Interesting .......I see the continuity of the ambitions of Imperial Rome in Ukraine. If I claim to look even more critically, I can see that the conflict is also about the imperialism of the Pharaohic dynasties of Egypt; perhaps even the Mongol armies of Ghengis Khan. It all depends how far back you want to go and how obtuse your reasoning needs to be to make an invalid point and appear to be a critical thinker.......doesn't it?

[@lordXAVIJAANBJERGNOG]

@@kelvinpell4571 And meanwhile, the Imperialist country with the world's largest land mass who keeps trying to gain more territory doesn't strike anyone as imperialistic.

[@utubeape]

@@lordXAVIJAANBJERGNOG They are not trying to gain more land - if that was the goal then far easier to invade Khazakstan. They are liberating the Russians trapped in east Ukraine from oppression whilst at the same time destroying the hostile army that NATO has spent years arming

[@arjan2777]

At that time Crimea was still a Crimean tartar majority area and the Crimean tartars were Turkish Allie’s or vassals. This was part of the Russian ambitions to expand their empire southwards and there was no sign of them stopping anywhere, they wanted Constantinople. The Allie’s were propping up the fainting Turkish empire at the time. Later the Crimea was ethnically cleansed by the tsars and Stalin to create a Russian majority but that is very recent. Sure I left out a few things but my story is far closer to what happened than yours. You are cherry picking your historical facts to make a story in stead of studying what happened.

[@georgbreckmann584]

Brilliant intereview with Israeli peace activist. What needs to be said is that, as of breakup of USSR, Ukraine had third largest stockpile of nuclear weapons. Under Clinton Regime, Ukraine agreed to give up the weapons, which went to Russia and Russia agreed to recognize and NATO and Uncle Saul agreed to the borders of Ukraine, as they existed in 1992. Nowhere did Ukraine ever expect to be admitted to NATO as it did not meet several criteria for such membership. That is a smokescreen. As she says, the three new NATO nations who joined in this defensive pact in 2004 in no way involved Ukraine. Putin publicly decried the breakup of the USSR as the single greatest tragedy of the 20th Century, not WWII, not the Holodomor where Russia killed a fifth of Ukraine’s population, not the Holocaust, and not the massive casualties of the Sino Japanese front- no, it was the dissolution of the USSR. That should show the priorities of Russian imperial leadership.

[@ignaciosugay2589]

You mean that Russia's pleas for implementation of the Minsk agreement is ILLEGITIMATE???

[@annazagorodniy713]

Well, as a Crimean our idea of what we are as a republic is very different from what Ukranians closer to Kiev or nationalist side think we are. Most Crimeans don't identify with Ukranian melitia/nationalist type of Ukranians, most of us don't even view ourselves as full on Ukrainians. We see ourselves as separate entity...although we do care about Ukranians and Russians as often we are a mixture of both...but without extremes, hatred and agression.

[@jorgesaito461]

The news that we read in the west is that Russia simply stole Crimea from Ukraine. From what I understand, Ukraine is a divided country, especially between the west and east. I have a question for you. Some people in the western media say that the neo-Nazis are not a big issue in Ukraine, that they are just a minority. Others say that Ukraine has neo-Nazis everywhere. What is your opinion?

[@jairlaiter6679]

Must say her Nato dismissals are off. She's right about this changing the power geometry of the world and not by coincidence.

[@qasimmohamed1338]

Her Nato may not be off - Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are neibhors of Russia already and they are member of Nato

[@eatcarpet]

@@qasimmohamed1338 Ukraine is a key place geographically.

[@GiordanDiodato]

bullshit NATO has nothing to do with Putin being a Stalin wannabe

[@darkagerush3098]

Russia and Putin in 2004 was not as strong. It was extremely pissed about the situation. Ukraine would mean probably their most important European border being in NATO. Really she is right that this is about Russia wanting to claim a place as a regional and global superpower. Putin does want to be a big man. I'm not entirely sure why the USA did things this way. Might be liberal hegemony related.

[@eatcarpet]

​@@darkagerush3098 Putin have been saying that Finland, Sweden and Ukraine joining NATO were red lines.

[@strings41]

Lia could benefit from a dose of John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs.

[@John-ei5uz]

It is definitely a personal perspective more than an educated professional one.She was a nightmare for the interviewer from the moment she criticized him for mispronouncing her name. As for the content, I am not sure what evidence there is that Russia was trying to subjugate Ukraine before the Maidan coup in 2014. Its pretty much widely acknowledged that the elected government before then was in fact a legitimately elected government. Ukraine was certainly coupled with Russia in various things including energy such as gas and Russia can' be blamed for trying to use energy for economical advantage. Look at what America is doing to Europe with LNG right now! If Ukraine had been able to bury the hatchet and aim for a mutually prosperous relationship with Russia I don't see why that couldn't have been achieved. We keep bashing Belarus for being a Russian ally but besides it being autocratic do we actually know if the Belarusians are unhappy with their society? We only hear from the so-called "opposition" that has arguably been bought by the West. If someone with obvious connections to the Russian government tried to run for office in the US with an obvious pro-Russian agenda they couldn't even get on the ballot. It's called treason! Let countries with these so-called authoritarian governments find rivals to the government from within. Once these so called "opposition" start talking to Western governments they lose their legitimacy. Putin rose from nowhere to the leadership in Russia because he is extremely competent. If the Russians thought he was no good he wouldn't still be in the job. They could remove him in any number of ways.

[@peterharrison5342]

Have to take issue with the idea that there is a particular cruelty about the military conduct of Russia, or Israel, for that matter. Within two weeks of Shock and Awe, Iraqi casualties, military and civilian, were already in five figures. So far, casualties in Ukraine don't come anywhere near that, and I'm surprised that the assertion went unchallenged. It simply isn't true.

[@jimgraham6722]

So far Russians haven't done shock and awe particularly well, but by bombing hospitals they are working hard to right that record.

[@chickenlover657]

@@jimgraham6722 Except they didn't bomb the hospital, the ukranians did. Hundreds of testimonies.

[@jimgraham6722]

@@chickenlover657 Oh I see, Ukrainians trying shock and awe on themselves, that's a new move. Blowing up your own hospital particularly while people are still inside is certainly one for the history book. Pudin should be very pleased, it's saved him a lot of missiles and explosives.

[@chickenlover657]

@@jimgraham6722 Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger referring you to the hundreds of testimonies and video footage.

[@jimgraham6722]

@@chickenlover657 Of course. Those ruskie soldiers would have seen this. They would have been amazed.

[@MrLawalker]

Glad I'm not the only one here who sees her through her.

[@baruasafi5880]

I'm an African in Africa and I understand the history of Russia at least. It never colonized Africa.

[@polinacapko7181]

She looks up at a ceiling every time she tries to pull some sort of a "fact". Kids do that when inventing stories 😂

[@savvybytes3748]

She brought up some decent points about BRICS etc. But the rest was sorta weird. And then her comments about Palestinians at the end 😱 Strange contemptuous attitude too.

[@inquisitive9248]

Yep, she toppled lies with lies.

[@qasimmohamed1338]

True for Palestinians - Palestinians do not have Wahabis, she is very wrong about that

[@tmsphere]

@@qasimmohamed1338 yes we do, ask Hamas literally the ppl now hunting salafis in Gaza!

[@Xaq_udirir]

@@tmsphere she was blaming in this interview mostly Either Soviets or Russians,. This was like mainstream media.

[@qasimmohamed1338]

@@tmsphere And if there is, you created it

[@MinusEighty]

Every guy listening to this is thinking the same thing. We have all dated a women like this...

[@NeoCynic1]

....nothing to do with NATO....." PURE DELUSION.

[@PlaydatePuppets]

God help the Palestinians if this is the kind of person who defends them.

[@real_lostinthefogofwar]

I'm not impressed by her

[@truthdisseminator]

Would her opinions/analysis be any different, if she took into account that the US paid Ukraine $4B since 2014, and $14B is being over-nighted?

[@REDTEK161]

Haha its all just western self-importance, don't worry about the very concrete ways the US and NATO have set the stage for this war.

[@alexv1269]

Nuland actually admitted US paid $5B to promote democracy in Ukraine before the Maidan overthrow

[@truthdisseminator]

@@alexv1269 Good to know. I didn't listen to the whole testimony.

[@seanmoran2743]

Sounds more like an Activist than a journalist

[@lisakenton2392]

The U.S. does whatever it wants regardless of international law. We break it on the regular.

[@aidenohalliganesquire3148]

she doesn't seem to have a grasp of the facts...

[@panpestowski]

Hahaha, but you surely do, don’t you? ;D

[@biometronome7010]

"If this was about NATO, don't you think this war would've started in 2004 when countries that're sharing a boarder with Russia joined NATO?" No. There have been multiple attempts to integrate Russia with the west, and tensions escalated from the outright rejection of those efforts, economic hostility and provocative war-games by US/NATO. Being selective with history doesn't help deescalate the conflict, if that's indeed her intention for doing this interview. And then her answer to Mark's question on why the invasion is happening NOW instead of 2004, is the pretentious: "Why did God create the Earth?" As ignorant as comments get. I question her honesty and integrity.

[@panpestowski]

Cool. Nobody cares. She speaks a lot of sense. And this has never been about nato. Facts.

[@biometronome7010]

@@panpestowski I like the depth of your argument

[@Psy500]

@@panpestowski Russia peace terms pretty much is that Ukraine give up claims on Crimea and not join NATO other then that Russia didn't give any more demands.

[@eatcarpet]

@@panpestowski What is it about then?

[@chickenlover657]

This woman is just a liar and ignorant propagandist. Probably paid to create more confusion and spread more "theories" to bury the truth and make it look like just another "theory" itself. Old tactic.

[@incubator6916]

Sounds like she is disinformed, misinformed or was paid to speak the lies.

[@stevegarcia2962]

Her bias oozes out her😂