What We Know About The RSI Polaris (Ft. Execute) | Launch Sequence Podcast

The RSI Polaris is one of the most anticipated ships in Star Citizen, and it’s finally headed for the game. For the first time players will see the capital class ship in-game at Invictus Launch Week in May, but how will we experience it, and why are players so excited for it. Today’s episode invites Execute from the Inforunners to discuss the upcoming ship, it’s origins, and what capital ships will mean for the game.
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00:00 Introductions
09:40 The Direction of Star Citizen
19:30 Why Do People Love The Polaris?
23:30 What’s Its Role?
36:40 When Does The Polaris Release?
47:00 Will The Polaris Be OP?
01:07:20 How Will Playing in Groups Work?
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[@redslate]

The Polaris is popular because it's ~35% cheaper than the Idris (inflation adjusted) and requires roughly half the crew. It's also not hull-limited; anyone can buy it without hassle. $1,000+ is a hard pill to swallow, and locks the ship to your account; ~$700 makes it more manageable. In CIG's rock-paper-scissors approach to combat, the Polaris is flexible enough to pose a threat to pretty much anything (small ships, large ships, capitals). All of this makes it far more _attainable_ and _usable_ compared to the Idris and Javelin. It's not the strongest or the most well-armed, but it is the most practical combat capital ship.

[@bryanperras7628]

(cough) Pegasus (cough)

[@Dee77777]

Right on the money. This comment deserves way more upvotes.

[@ubergumbie]

The thing that makes the Polaris special to me is it's great position as a flagship for small orgs / groups of buds, It checks all the boxes. It's got decent cargo space, a med bay, it can land, it can take ground vehicles, It can hold several small fighters and has rearm/ refuel capabilities Aside from that the Ship isn't squishy and has the ability to really pack a punch

[@FuriousImp]

It is great position?

[@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637]

The Polaris Brochure mentions it has Light Armor. Regardless of how strong its shield is, which will probably be 2 or 3 Capital Class Shields, after the shields are down it will be vulnerable to conventional weapons. More so than an Idris (Heavy Armor) at least. However i do expect it to be really fast in a straight line. Regardless of when it comes out, it will be exciting to earn one in-game and fly it, with aUAC in the future.

[@jrzgcwrocks]

​@@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637 you left out the size difference. Sure it's weaker than an Idris practically, but it'll dance around.

[@yubarev]

@@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637 After Master Modes is in place, it will have 130-135 m/s SCM speed. Can't say that's really fast for sure. Why 130-135 m/s? Because Hammerhead has 160 m/s at the moment which is considered to be faster and more maneverabale than Polaris when it was in concept. You can check Hammerhead's Q&A for the confirmation.

[@bryanperras7628]

It's a corvette class and a missile boat primarily. It can hold A SINGLE FIGHTER not several. The Idris can only hold 3, which is the most for player-owned vehicles with internal ship storage, the pocket carriers can hold as much or more in the case of the Kraken, but that's external storage. It's only real use is as an anti-capital-ship escort for convoys. If your Org isn't big enough to warrant an Idris or Kraken as a flagship, then it probably won't be large enough to crew the Polaris to the point where it's useful. The Polaris can be a great addition to any large fleet, but it should not be the highlight and if you're running it solo (as in the only ship, not trying to run it with a single crew member), you're way better off with a Carrack or Expanse as a large group daily runner.

[@thalstantrailwalker2393]

Why is the Polaris so popular? Because like the Carrack, it's what people see as their Starship Enterprise. Even more so, because it has real offensive punch as well as exploration, instead of just the exploration of the carrack. I think for many, it represents what the Carrack promised, but honestly, I am not sure it (or any ship that's been in concept for over 5 years) can really deliver on what people have built up in their head over that time.

[@mythicallegendary3992]

the enterprise in my mind is the Idris, but im exited for the polaris just because its big ship :) plus I have lots of friends to crew with so the bigger the better.

[@thalstantrailwalker2393]

@@mythicallegendary3992 I am sure that many people would consider the Idris, or the Javelin to ne the "Enterprise", but those are 3-4 times the price depending on when you might have backed for the Polaris, and are much harder to get. I think the Polaris and the Carrack both first a lot of people's concept of the 1701. Feels big, has a "shuttle" can defend itself (or in the case of the Polaris, has a huge offensive punch too), Perfect for a crew of 5-12 people (captain, first officer, doctor, random bridge officer, comms officer, and a few red-shirts....I mean security....to round out the landing party.

[@DummyThinksThoughts]

Part of the popularity is that is a capital that isn't limited hull . It's a capital people can easily buy and say they have a capital . For me I love RSI i think they are the coolest ships in the game , I have almost all of the RSI ships . Especially all the big ones . I love the RSI designs and they are easy to get on the store page

[@gunner1177]

People seem to forget that we do have the 890 as a player capital ship in game. Server messing isn’t going to keep the Polaris back

[@Cloverfield187]

But they want a ship like the Polaris to NEED 6-12 players manning it. Currently the player cap of 100 would mean that a whopping 10% of the entire server would be on it. They dont want to make the same ship twice and are waiting for other features to come online because the Polaris is designed with future features in mind.

[@gunner1177]

@@Cloverfield187 Thats not the point i was getting at, they say that server meshing will be needed for a ship this big because it so big and bring up the Reclaimer and how the server where when it launched. But in the current game we have the 890 jump and its bigger then the Polaris and ive seen almost 40 at a large org ship meet plus a wide array of other ships and the server be fine. Server meshing will not keep the Polaris from coming out. Also the hammerhead is in game now and just for the turrets and a pilot needs 7 right now so thats not much of a difference compared to 6 minimum for the Polaris.

[@phoenixsui]

Yeah i just love flying the ships for noncombat stuff.

[@stoanes]

I'm a big fan of the Polaris. From day 1, I kickstarted the Constellation because I wanted the multicrew experience. I eventually moved up to the Polaris because I want to experience standing on the bridge of my ship looking out into space over a battlefield or something. I am actually not happy about the hype over this ship. I think it will only cause harm. Firstly, far too many people are going to be upset when they realize that this ship is going to cost a lot to run. It is not a daily a driver, it SHOULDN'T be a daily driver. Like Execute said, two torpedoes should cost the same as 2 Avengers. I think that too many people are overselling how good the Polaris is expected to be, and this might result in CIG nerfing it, or the community being extremely unhappy because they expected it to be something and it isn't. I am fully expected it to be a capable multi-function ship, but it will be fulfilling the role of being a long distance strike ship. All the cargo should be used for ammo/repair/fuel materials. Stations onboard are for rescue of itself, or maybe flying into a battlefield, launching torpedoes, grabbing some stranded people, and dipping out. However, it is not a brawler, it's not an explorer, it's not a cargo ship, etc. I will be honest, i'm also less excited for the Polaris because I expect it to require crew to run, particularly with the engineering gameplay that I expect will be featured in the ship on release, it's going to be a bit rough to run without people to help use all the stations.

[@gman2x]

As a prior Coast Guardsmen that served on a 210ft vessel I'd love to give real life comparisons to multi-crew and the importance of being able to preform multiple roles on board. For a 210ft ship (64 meters) we had an average of 78 people aboard. I believe star citizen massively under estimates the amount of people needed to crew vessels of these sizes and these roles.

[@Greymist73]

Very excellent point sir. Battleship Texas at launch - Length 175m, Beam 29m, Draft (height) 29m+super structure (at least the same) so total 60-70m "tall". 27,000 long tons, Crew 1000+ RSI Polaris (using website specs, so smaller than what is being worked on) - Length 155m, Beam 82m, Height 35m, 16,884 Long tons, Crew 6-14...lol So the RSI Polaris by comparison is roughly the size of a WW1 Dreadnaught. (The USS Texas was considered large for the ship class when it launched in 1912.)

[@fnz972]

Personally I think the reason why it is popular is the combination of 3 things: the most manageable combat capital (theoretically), could potentially kill ships much bigger than it, and has a pretty complete set of tools that could be used for any game loop

[@jimhansen1245]

It’s an angry carrack I can’t wait

[@iremembersleep3083]

A Bridge of Scowl and Scorn.

[@KenFromchicago]

We had the Carrack pictures for YEARS! It's the wallpaper to my phones and they changed rear thrusters from vertical slits with golden yellow exhaust to circular thrusters with blue flame exhaust, but worst was cutting the nose and making the snout more rounded like a seal vs the longer, slimmer, very distinct upper floor that looked more like an eagle or falcon beak. They ruined the front profile.

[@JuanBrolo]

They skipped all big ships last year....did a but ton of concepts and sales ...we are due a freaking large ship.

[@elvissmith4188]

Hull C isn't small .

[@darbyburbidge8976]

Understatement of the century

[@jasonfrost5025]

Yes, it's going to be a mobile command base. As stated on the website, it's intended to be a mobile militia flagship, out for patrol, self-sufficient for long deployment w/o resupply. It'll have tons of applications in SC.

[@Radix0mfg]

I'm sad to inform you, they've POTENTIALLY removed the "command base" aspect of it. Lowkey kind of sucks they did such. The remodeled version that was presented last year also came with an interior design layout, which showed no signs of there being a mission briefing room, nor a command center bay anymore, they scrapped those...

[@LoVeRSaMa]

Server stability is not tied to the size of the ships spawned, you can find images of 50+ 890Js all spawned (jump club) I can’t find the quote right now but the devs also confirmed this on spectrum..

[@deerpoob]

I think when they say that they are talking more about the amount of players in said ships, not the ships actual size. 50 jumps could be 50 people nowadays, but realisticly that could be 500+ players in a "realistic" scenario at game launch.

[@redslate]

Stability is _significantly_ impacted by the number of players. Larger ships will _implicitly_ require lots of players present. Sure, you can currently load in the assets for '50 Capital ships,' but you can't sustain their full crew/passengers. The servers struggle with 90+/100 players; that's like a single Javelin (80).

[@r.daneel.90]

19:00 SQ42 will probably have a lot more recognition and publicity than SC ever had. But in the numbers, im fairly sure that SC will be played by more people. Funny thing.

[@JohnSrptn117]

What has me intrigued are two things: 1. Does the torpedo size 10 mean anything beyond damage? Since there's a designated "gunner" for those torpedoes, will we see a new mechanic like manually guided torpedoes? That would be amazing; giving control of the torpedoes to the torpedo operator would drastically change things. 2. The capital-size radar. What does that imply? Does it mean detecting targets first? Having a longer range? More range for what? Small ships? Large ships? Does it mean that you spot things before they spot you, or is it pointless due to the ship's size if a small ship can detect you from miles away because of your enormous signal? I love the ship, and even if it turns out to be the most useless thing, I'll keep flying it. But man, these questions keep me on my toes, I tell you.

[@GunShocka]

I think the obsession and love for large ships isnt neccesarily out of utility only but symbolism and a sense of home away from home. We do this in real life to as well as other games that revolve around ships and large vehicles/bases. Take battlefield 4 for example. The Valkyrie was the home of many marines and is treated as such despite being a war ship. It holds your belonging, refuels your smaller ships and you can essentially live on it for extended periods of time without going to a station. Many people want that feeling of returning home from a mission on a mother ship essentially but still feel ready for the next adventure.

[@AllistorKatelo]

I've already warned everyone in GII that when the Polaris comes out, good luck getting me out of it. I will be using it for every inappropriate thing it wasn't meant for. Need cargo moved, why not Polaris? Need a med rescue, why not Polaris? Bunkers in a Polaris because turrets cant get through the shields before you finish the mission. To me its a multi-role capital that for a small group could be your home base for an extended time away from a station and seems to have just enough capabilities in a bunch of areas to support small-medium operations. Just because no one else has said it yet: "Gib Polaris"

[@bryanperras7628]

And as soon as you land your Polaris at the bunker, look up and smile at my Herc A2 as it showers you with "presents".

[@NovaGrim77]

ROC mining in my Polaris

[@jimhansen1245]

@@NovaGrim77 I’m with you on that lol

[@Boss-Possum]

Box missions, just do box missions. Everyone will be like WTF is up with this dude.

[@surslaughter3524]

The Polaris can fit an SRV. Has a med bay and vehical bay. Those features alone make it possible for a group to do deep space search and rescue missions all the while being a threat to incoming ships long enough to get in and rescue the ship needing rescue. Ill be throwing a C8R in the vehicle bay and have the SRV in the hanger for towing the persons ship who is being rescued.

[@LifeFlight22]

You should look us up, We would love to mutual aid other Rescue Groups.

[@surslaughter3524]

@@LifeFlight22 you know, I would, I really would. But I don’t think I can fit another group of disgruntled backers who claim to love the game, yet cry and moan about every bug and every hiccup in development, I don’t know if I have room for another group like that in my gaming life. I’ve got quite enough (I help run an org and an a member of another, evo as well, and affiliated with a handful of others). Now I’m not saying you guys are what I speak of, but the odds are against ya. I seem to be a unicorn. Been here since April 2014 and I feel like I’m the only one who understands what we have right now as a game and not what we are supposed to have. I don’t hang on the maybes and the what if’s . (Had a guy who hadn’t even tried 3.23 live today and asked when is 4.0 ffs). And I certainly don’t hang on past mistakes and the so called broken promises that 99% of the community seems to harbor. I know I sound a bit salty but I just can’t do it anymore. I was solo for a long time (and about to go back to it) and then around 2021 I decided to look for a crew. And ever since then it’s been nothing But whiny, salty, we love the game but they should do better type of people. Lots of orgs and always make sure the orgs are run by guys in my age group and have an age limit on how young but it seems to not matter. Some for 2 days, some for 2 months, but it always ends the same way. Sure not every single person does it every day, but there’s always one. New, old, doesn’t matter. Even today. A great 3.23 build that actually works! Sure it had a rough start, which was intended so servers didn’t melt and cause us to have weekend of rebuilding backend like 3.18. But noooo, All I hear is negativity. Now if you made it through this and said that’s not us, we genuinely love the game and understand the development and the building of tech and how sometimes things have to be redone to keep up with new tech, that negativity only breeds more negativity. That a new guy coming in with bright eyes and big aspirations can be ruined in 6 months by their own lack of understanding and they don’t need help from salty veterans to speed up that process for them. If that’s you, hit me up and we can see about it. Sorry man. Just had enough of the community this last few years. It used to be a niche well adjusted, giving, and courteous community. All that has really gone down the toilet in the last 4 or so years. So yea, if that is your crew, you know how to find me.

[@JuanBrolo]

People need to cut this whole the gameplay isnt all there put narrative.....90 percent of the ships are missing their gameplay so thats not a valid argument. The polaris is technically smaller than the 890 or about the same size so theres no reason to not put it in game.... The merchantman has almost all its gameplay loops in game but we still do not have that... The odyssey has ots gameplay loops in for the most part and its not in....

[@Roboticus_Prime_RC]

CIG needs to work on Command and Control for ships. The owner/captain should be directing others. Not flying or shooting, unless necessary. This will also work for AI crew.

[@jasonfrost5025]

The captain doesn't fly or do anything. The Starfarer has a captain's chair and you don't do anything in it.

[@joshua41175]

It will be interesting how ships will be addressed in battle recaps when describing ships with 50% player crews and >90% player crews being somthing along half-aced and aced ship deployments when org planning. I imagine the sweet spot for large ship deployments and player crews depend on ship.

[@daethwing188]

The only reason I have a polaris is to fly around and be able to launch my saber from it. Med bed, hangar, I'm all set. I have stuck with just the Carrack if my Carrack could toe my saber in its hangar... but it cannot.

[@rooster1012]

There is a torpedo operator station and a torpedo loading station on the lower deck so the pilot will not be firing the torps.

[@kendallscott8908]

haha I have a Carrack that cant do a whole hell of a lot either and still luv taking out here and there and I know We have a quite a few 890 jumps running around. The shine will where off a bit after a couple of weeks....but sales will be off the charts for them at Invictus if the ship goes live

[@nomad_specter]

Crusader c1 completely met my expectations.

[@WarBirdGhost]

The Polaris was the ship that drew me into Star Citizen.

[@aegirbauglir5282]

Looking forward to multi-crew gameplay!

[@dragonsforge8278]

I would really like to see some customization for all of the ships coming out. Even if it's just something simple as changing out the rooms on a ship, maybe add a power station for AI robots or another armory or a trophy room rather than just giving me all these extra bedrooms or bunks for the medium sized ships

[@CaptainSF]

Psst. Tell you a secret. Part - part - of the reason people like it is because they are hoping that flight and missiles can still be soloed. RSI hasn't EXPLICITLY ruled out missile operator mode from the pilot's seat. Once it does, both interest and use will go down (just my two cents).

[@wathak504]

Honestly really hope not and thought the whole idea for missile operator mode is to provide a means to seperate missiles from the pilot. I want to be able to fire missiles at targets that arn't directly infront.

[@aguspuig6615]

yeeees, the Polaris and the Perseus, tho different sizes, both fill this role imo. They are the ''i cant belive i get to pilot and fire such big guns by myself'' ships

[@tkc1129]

Let's not forget that huge torpedoes are going to be very expensive. It's going to be very hard to use the ship profitably, moreso while running solo.

[@iUseSporks]

Actually I’m hoping they remove the pilots control but in return I hope my missile operator gains the ability to shoot not only fire and forget but also TV guided and laser guided torps

[@BradAhrens]

Exactly. Anything is possible when it's not specified during the concept sale. For all we know, it could take 60 seconds to reload 4 size 10's. The hangar could take 2 minutes to open. The fuses could be in the dozens. The main engines could be massive weak points that are easy to destroy. We don't know shit yet, and it's important to realize that before letting your imagination run wild about its godlike supremacy.

[@mavor101]

Polaris is the first actual "capital" ship that will be flyable in the game (unless Idris drops early). It is the "actual proof" that SC as many backers have envisioned it (ie. a MMO space sim that allows multiple people to fly big ships together as a crew) has finally arrived.

[@Kedrin_]

The Polaris will not be the first "capital" ship in game. Did everybody forget about the 890 jump?

[@beavschannel5217]

​@@Kedrin_I would if I could, a horrible waste of production time, absolutely pointless ship, and probably will be for a very long time.

[@mavor101]

@@beavschannel5217 This

[@Christhebearable]

We need org hangers, with some kind of permission control. Otherwise pooling resources doesn’t make sense if the ship is then “owned” by a particular person.

[@Boss-Possum]

I have many ships Polaris included. But my favorite ship is the the 400i. It's sleek, fast, easy to handle, versatile and can hold its own long enough to get away. But I'm still waiting on the 600i rework. As for the Polaris, I can't talk about it until we have it. I think we will get it at IAE this year hopefully. But then again look at the BMM or 600i rework. Things can and do change at CIG all the time.

[@warren-cga]

They need to create party creation system or something to announce that you want people to help you with mission, because for solo players right now who not interested in orgs and just want to complete some stuff together there is no system to find people who want to do stuff you want to do

[@KaizikuM]

The Polaris is my capital ship, it looks amazing, fits all the boxes I want, and it's going to be a mainstay with my orgs. I like combat, and my main org likes combat. It's perfect for us, and we have 2 of them. Then, when I'm not in it, the rest of my fleet is focused on industrial and solo stuff.

[@ArterialCanine]

For me, it’s the immersion of flying a capital war fighter in the midst of Xeno threat. The game play alone will be epic. This plus the safest way to explore and complete missions in the lawlessness of Pyro.

[@spargeltarzan9472]

the torps are s10 not s9

[@karmacappa]

They told me to the first! So I did. Excited for the Polaris!

[@Brian-us2xz]

You are either first, or you are last! And you gotta win to get love in this world.

[@ArterialCanine]

Up there for me is Hope Endeavour the ship that is and its modules. We will have modules albeit basic ones for retaliatory, then the galaxy so Endeavour soonish?

[@doubledigital_]

it was oli ( the streamer ) who found the mid point. The rockets bend because the planets are moving in each server differently! .. im sure they will iron that out in time tho. for the Polaris to even make sens in the game we need org stuff working better tbh. And it will have to come with WAY harder missions.. great pod o7

[@RyoninShonin]

Great insight. The server clocks likely need to be synced to a higher degree. Off by a fraction of a second accounts for the several meters of difference. We move 460 meters a second on earth.

[@staticmass6794]

Hoping real big for Railen in Alien Week but I know the bespoke cargo pods are going to be a huge bottle neck for its release. If they can (at least temporarily) make it play nice with regular rectangular cargo pods then I could see it coming for Alien Week

[@rainier1012]

what tomato talk is the scanning video yall mention in this vid?

[@VICT0RLAZL0]

Yup... Got the shirt back in the day thinking I will hopefully own one in game.... 5 years later and CCU trap and I now own one too lol 😅

[@FuriousImp]

@31:10 You're looking for the word guerilla tactics. You're welcome.

[@scuzzy2142]

Got my Polairs originally for the concept sale but now have it for $350 credit on a CCU chain. Cant beat that.

[@Duncan275]

I think you nailed it… It tells its own story… in THAT fiction. The settings should not be twisted

[@syler5565]

I don't know. I feel like they might release it sooner so they can get more testing on engineering.

[@bluexgreen1]

Having some kind of carrier or other form of support ships will be a big deal in very large systems like pyro. A mining convoy can protect itself from solo light fighter harassment by setting up asteroid mining in an out of range location, for example. Liberator would be the small org carrier. Kraken is the next size up, for medium size orgs or bigger. Polaris is a side-grade for the Kraken. More mobility and damage potential but much reduced ship carrying capacity. Polaris is a solid option for an org base in that it can do a decent job at everything, as opposed to more specialized ships like the Hammerhead, Perseus and Carrack. There are a lot of practical ship combinations for medium+ orgs. When I see someone chatting about how great the Polaris is, the first/main aspect they praise is always the huge torps. I wonder how much of the popularity of the Polaris is related to the history of S9 torps being a win button for quite a while, rather than its other merits.

[@IrisCorven]

The bed logging thing isn't a deal breaker for me. I liked the idea behind it, but every implementation we've seen has been very broken or incomplete. If it worked 24/7, and was reliable when it came to friends/crew sleeping on your ship, that'd be one thing. But as it stands, it's just another layer of complexity that makes hopping back in the next day a hassle. If I can just park my ship in an asteroid field and log out, and log right back into my pilots chair, or standing in my living quarters, that accomplishes the same thing. Not to mention you have entire ships where beds just refuse to work. If you've ever tried to sleep on a Lancer Max, 1 of the 4 beds work, and *to this day* still experience the age-old "stuck crouched in your bed" bug that has apparently been fixed on most other ships. So with PES being a thing, I think any capacity to just log out in your ship, and log back in without hassle is a major win. It's also why I'm patiently awaiting more news on when we can set our persistent hangars to locations other than the core cities - I hate dealing with the framerate chug, transit, and such EVERY time I log in. Every new patch, I throw every bit of gear I have in my ship, fly out to an L1/L2 station, drop it all off, set my respawn, and then claim all my ships over there. The cities are too much of a hassle.

[@Jansoft11]

that phone has to be THE HOT LINE, directly to CR :D

[@w33b3l]

Diggin the goat tomato, looks good on ya lol. Havent seen ya in awhile so not sure how long ya had it. As for the Polaris, it seems like it might be a replacement for the carrack for me but like said we'll have to see. Either way Im keeping an eye on it and am hoping its as close to done as it seems.

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

Appreciate it! Looking foward to seeing what happens to the Polaris.

[@romanwiller2180]

I feel like the Kraken is going to be the most effective and efficient adhoc org base for just plopping it in the middle of a system and running a bunch of missions and events, but the Polaris wouldn’t be a bad choice I think.

[@mint88rx8]

I’ve been playing for about three months and I have never heard of execute, gotta check him out after his comment about people not knowing who he is.

[@joshua41175]

He mostly does ship sale analysis these days with his buddy. He is part of and a leading member of the inforunners org as well.

[@Frazec_Atsjenkov]

Perhaps totally unfounded, but my biggest fear is that when the Polaris drops, players will use it to take out space stations and other infrastructure.

[@Tainted-Soul]

I just want a ship that I could fit the Vulture on so I can go out salvage ships store the RMC and stuff and fly back with a full load I kind of hoping the Liberator was that ship but if the Polaris fits a Vulture then solo it may be LOL the problems will come when people think " I want that ship "

[@theg0z0n]

If you don't believe that any ship can be solo'd, then you also don't believe that SQ42 will work at all.

[@ianmcintosh418]

I honestly think they are waiting to drop the Polaris with a suitable target for it - likely the Idris.

[@JJS563]

5:20 "You can see the frenzy starting to grow" I honestly believe this is the reason for an uptick in development in the last year or so. People are tired, frustrated and spent so much and we barely have a working alpha tech demo. Nuts

[@LifeFlight22]

No Frenzy here, We won't see this thing till Christmas and that's if everything goes right... If they run into one little hiccup it will be another year. Unfortunately for me CIG has destroyed my trust when it comes to "Trailers or Show off's." Until we have it in our hangar then it doesn't exist."

[@JJS563]

@@LifeFlight22 Gotta agree. One for sure, I would love to play the game that the marketing team at CIG are selling us sadge

[@wickedgaming9632]

How have you not watched fallout yet?! It's so dang good

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

We were waiting untill we moved into the new house and had a proper TV again. Now it's time!

[@onepunchndown]

I like it because, beyond the hammerhead it will help push org gameplay

[@user-in1jb9xv3t]

Same here!

[@C4R1TON]

I tend to get my ships on their looks, not their roles. I love its look but I’m also part of an Org so I will have other people who can man it.

[@paratrooperz1]

maybe im the odd guy here but my #1 anticipated ship is the liberator!!!! #2 is the apallo medivac my #3 is the pioneer my #4 is the Polaris and the 2 ships i have unlimited patients for is the BMM and the endeavor......

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

Can't wait to see what gameplay they make to give Liberator owners love.

[@user-bh6hi6cr5h]

I would like to see the Liberator sooner then later. It could be used as a mobile base for salvaging with a vulture or mining with a prospector (since we are going to be able to buy extra mining bags). If the Liberator can hold the Expanse, then you can have a small mobile mining and a refining group since you wouldn’t need a large crew to operate the ships.

[@rtek777]

We have Reclaimer, 890j and Hammerheads in game. Size of the ship is no reason for them to hold the ship back.

[@Dennis-DK2]

after solo mining in a mole i never want to use a prospector again, do you guys even play the game?

[@amou2409]

Fallout series was a treat. I thoroughly enjoyed 😊

[@revengexmoon2087]

3.23 has not even gone to PTU so everybody can test it, and they are focusing on ship sales.

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

The ship sale is not related to the patch time. It takes place on the same week every year for the past 4 years. Usually the patch is out in April, this one is later.

[@bluexgreen1]

What do you mean? 3.23 has a possible LIVE candidate coming out this evening.

[@digdug4123]

Love your stuff Soace tomato

[@FieldHoodGaming]

The Polaris has more of its gameplay implemented than the Carrack

[@mo2gotchas419]

Dunno why X dood think polaris needs meshing.... reclaimer, 890 are bigger ships.

[@bluexgreen1]

I agree. The 890 Jump Club had 50 890’s on one server during their meetups for years now. With the cap increase, maybe he fears 200+ large ships on one server, but ship entities have not been the limiting factor for quite some time now. A QT flight through the asteroid belt has caused more entity streaming issues 3.22

[@_SPKer]

The only thing I will note (I should probably keep watching to see if it's addressed) in regard to the Polaris being mostly "hit and run"; is remember it can fit a Scorpius, Hurricane etc. or a couple of LFs. I think the Polaris has a lot of power and authority in securing/locking down areas via it's deployment potential, and the fact it can "currently" provide spawns for FPS pressure. I expect to see it a lot tbh.

[@jasonfrost5025]

Uh it cannot fit a corsair, lol. That ship is enormous.

[@_SPKer]

@@jasonfrost5025 - Good catch haha, you're 100% correct! I posted this like 3am my bad :P I meant to say Scorpius/Hurricane not Corsair haha

[@C4R1TON]

It’s all marketing, but didn’t they fire 4 torpedoes?

[@paratrooperz1]

i am sure that the carrack will remain the best but i think the polaris will get some heavy use and abuse for 3.23 season. i cant wait for AI crew so i can solo an idris and still have all the ship roles filled

[@paratrooperz1]

my money is on the game working like this 3.23 drops then 3.23.1 will drop 2 to 6 weeks later then 3.23.2 will drop 3 months from now. i think 3.23.3 will come 2 weeks later then and only then 4.0 may drop at end of year or 3.23.4... once server meshing foundation works we will have a gold pass on many things and remain 4.0 series until server meshing is feature/function complete then 1.0 will arrive. 4.0 should and may be labeled beta.

[@0Metatron]

I still play the game almost daily but it’s not going to hit the spot for me until it becomes a proper MMO with proper heartbreaking penalties for death and a long progression tree with all the best items gated behind reputation and crafting. The glossy ship store/tech demo can only go on for so long even though some weirdo’s would happily see it stay that way.

[@SeanDoe69]

I just want my Kraken!

[@wackysparrow1768]

Smallest ship that has everything

[@prestiboi]

I’m gonna avoid all spoilers of it’s layout, when it releases I get in, run around get lost and get annoyed, almost quitting the game but remembering there’s the ship map lol.

[@pashkracken4054]

I don't think people realize how much the game is going to have to change for the Polaris to be viable. And I hope they keep the Torpedoes out of the pilots control otherwise there's just going to be a bunch of solo morons in the server throwing Torpedoes everywhere

[@joshuanissen8803]

Im more excited for the ships that we can actually operate like Galaxy and Zeus

[@Hawc51]

The Polaris means, in theory anyway, that Perseus is on the way and the Perseus is bae.

[@NovaGrim77]

I can’t wait for that one too. That is why I picked up the RSI Complete pack at AIE last year. Also excited about the rest of Their concepts. Apollo, Zeus, Galaxy, Arrastra, Orion.

[@tkc1129]

Tomato, I really doubt you will want to have *9* engineers in a Polaris. 3 per deck seems extremely excessive, especially considering how boring most of their planned gameplay is (heal beam).

[@Ace-Brigade]

I mean they should totally pull the Carack out of game by his logic just because there's so much missing gameplay.

[@M4cex]

22:53 Confirms that Execute is indeed an android!

[@Zeoran]

I'm not saying you're wrong about waiting for Server Meshing before the Polaris, but it's NOT that big. It's actually smaller than the 890 Jump, which is already in the game. (I own both)

[@jrzgcwrocks]

What a great movie concept. Couple of fuck ups miss the close proximity period of their planetary alignments & have to make the voyage but encounter this & that haha

[@CitizenScott]

Wow. Imagine thinking that amiright? Wow.

[@barryhoggle2354]

I want the Liberator way more than any of the capital ships

[@joshua41175]

I think people are tunneling too hard on it "hacking" it's way onto docking ports. I don't see why a hanger shield or door can't be the subject of a hack. That said, I do hope CIG let it do things like access internal doors and subsystems to help with infiltration because a docking collar is such a disadvantageous form of infiltration when the enemy is right there staring at you. Either that or a s1 turret controlled by the pilot to establish a beach head.

[@bluexgreen1]

@@joshua41175 Liberator is the smallest dedicated carrier, not the boarding ship.

[@joshua41175]

@bluexgreen1 ah yeah, the Quasar flatbed. Thought it was called the liberty for some reason.

[@randyscharf1505]

na they got the 890 its will come in nov with iduris

[@dukeofhazard420]

Can’t wait to take my polaris out for ROC mining and nothing else

[@CMDR_Birb]

POOOOOLARIS

[@Ace-Brigade]

That's absolutely ridiculous. They have the 890 jump alongside the carack alongside the reclaimer alongside every other big ship in game and the servers are just fine.. his argument is laughable.

[@dukeofhazard420]

I don’t understand why people make that argument

[@theg0z0n]

Your comments about bed logging really hit home for me. I have been looking forward to the character creator for a long long time. And it is. so. insanely. disappointing. My complaint is that if you select Eye1, but you want it lower on the face, and you grab any of the blend spots on the eye, and drag it downward, the eye will just straight up change into a different Eye. It happens to all the parts of the faces. I honestly don't understand why this is what they came up with, why the are locking you into those faces in such a way that they literally disallow you to change any feature too much, and if you do, it just changes the part. I've never seen a character creator like this, I don't understand the benefit of it. And to extrapolate it out, will this system end up being just your two 'parents' faces so you end up with only two options to blend? That doesn't make sense. So why this system? Seriously. Back to your point that at each change some people will decide the game isn't for them. My account is over 12k, and I'm seriously considering, have been in contact with a few buyers already, selling the majority of my account AT 55% because my character and their appearance is very important to me. And frankly I don't think CIG is going to provide us with a system to make characters that look good enough for me.

[@strawberry-parfait3922]

The thing is Todd Papy wasn't just a random employee that needed restructuring he was one of the known faces and pillars of SC and it was super weird how he left without even a goodbye video where he expresses thanks and explains everything ect. Like imagine Jared Huckaby was just gone from one day to another and didn't made a goodbye video or said anything in advance or explained why or anything, we just found out via linkedin that he is no longer employed. That would be super sus and make it look like there was some sort of major infighting going on inside the company and that people were treated poorly and arent able to talk about it because of NDA, so why do it this way instead giving a proper public farewell?

[@Ogata123]

The path things are going, i think a lot of big ship will be disappointing. Unless CIG realizes all MMOs are 90% solo experiences with 10% group, most of that 10% being endgame

[@joshua41175]

I wouldn't be surprised if build sites will include separate fits for 50% and 100% player crew as well as full npc/blade.

[@Uneedskill]

Dude you keep asking him about "what ship is more exciting". In the end who cares? People got hyped for Carrack and now I never ever see one flying. Just feels like a dumb question to keep asking.

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

Well I mean...I care? The podcast is supposed to be me asking questions that I want to know about the specific guest. I couldn't care less whether people will be excited about this ship in 2 years. I want to know why HE thinks it's exciting.

[@Uneedskill]

@@SpaceTomatoToo Asking the same question multiple times just in different ways like "is this the most anticipated" or "is it more anticipated than the BMM" just gets old. From a guest that has no clue if it actually is or not. I guess you have fun with your style. I will just move on to the next creator. Later.

[@soliitudegaming7275]

The Polaris will guaranteed drop this year. Zero doubt anymore tbh. Also servers wont crash because of large ships.... that was an old issue. You can literally spawn 100+ 890 Jumps without causing server issues anymore. Execute just doesn't know what he is talking about... Which is clear in all his answers. His lack of technical knowledge is... shocking. Really shocking. And its not good for such misinformation to be spread around.

[@Musibotjekkk]

Size 10* not 9 hahaha

[@wraith511802003]

LOOK, what you spent in ALPHA to support the development has nothing to do with how the ships are going to be valued in game. That is ridiculous mentality.

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

Well I feel the same, it was actually confirmed on SCL that real-life pricing is being taken into account.

[@balrogz5093]

The graphic background behind Execute makes him look like he has cat ears. Win.

[@arhsguy]

Execute getting his facts wrong again. This dude is the worst. They never said the Idris was coming just after 4.0. They said it was coming with SQ42. I feel that part of the reason SC gets such a bad wrap is because you got guys like him that keep spewing crap that isn’t true and a lot of people aren’t setting realistic expectations.

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

I actually missed this possibly, I do remember them saying it was coming after Squadron 42 and for some reason hear the same during the show!

[@arhsguy]

@@SpaceTomatoToo to be clear I think you’re a good presenter in this space. I feel that bringing on different people to have discussions is a great format. My comment was specifically directed at Execute because he has a history of saying things that are not correct with absolute certainty and I feel that when hype is generated by saying incorrect things then the project suffers when these turn out to be demonstrably false.