What We Learned 5 Years After Renouncing Our U.S Citizenships

[@CryptoTips]

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[@natukitenatako]

Which citizenship(s) do you have now? Portuguese or some other? Ever heard of Liberland (a self-declared crypto-friendly micro state on a Danube river island between Serbia and Croatia)?

[@TomaMarini]

I was expecting you to mention Roger Ver who also renounced his US citizenship. Please look up recent interview with Tracy Thurman, and sign the petition to free Roger now

[@GrandSlamJamBam]

now please dont ever come back we have more than enough sellouts and traitors in the country as it is

[@thomasbarrett5350]

I did the same in 2002. Left NYC for Mexico, then have lived in 3 different countries since. Now happily entrenched in Bitcoin country El Salvador where I will live out the rest of my life with no capital gains on Bitcoin.

[@mikescarborough9196]

Believe it or not, Argentina is slowly but surely evolving from crypto hostile to extremely crypto friendly with their new president. Read the news and stay tuned. Something’s going on down there.

[@joshuaescalante1791]

Excellent choice.

[@2ndTim3_1-6]

whats it like living there ?

[@ELBLOKE503]

Nice.

[@tolun99]

No capital gains, or no capital gain tax? 😉

[@garymiles9609]

Love seeing you guys doing an episode together. You are an inspiration to your viewers. Also, the beach background complemented your message perfectly.

[@mrright1068]

I need this bull run to fund my version of your adventure. You two are such an inspiration.

[@Ron-zr6se]

Good for you Toby and Heidi, I left back in 75 the first time and then perinatally in 03. I have never regretted it for one second. Life is so much better outside of the US and a lot less hassles.

[@tierpin]

This is the way. Have kids, the world needs more people who think like you 😇

[@Savage_Viking]

Everyone has their own path. There are so many ways to retire and live life. Your choice works for you. Happy life.

[@Steve-0111]

I love this country! I am going to stay and fight even when I become a Bitcoin multimillionaire. I'll visit these countries you reference. God bless the USA...

[@Tim_Wiebe]

Thank you. I agree completely

[@I_have_Aquestion]

I second that. I am not running from the problems in America. I am working hard to make it a better place. I love this country and I fight to the bitter end to keep her strong and healthy.

[@paranoidandroid9825]

UNITED STATES is a Corporation in the DISTRICT of COLUMBIA.

[@damnright4]

US Politicians are counting on people like you..Dont let them down

[@I_have_Aquestion]

@ America is counting on people like you, too. Politicians are counting on you to quit and leave the country.

[@0_bsrvr]

Thank you for this video Heidi, Toby. I have followed you both since 2020 and I love the way you choose live your lives. Thank you for Jennifer's details, I have contacted her already to start my own journey too. Best wishes to you both for this bull run.

[@jeroenkoppert688]

Thanks toby and heidi !! you guys are awesome and living a great example !!

[@paranoidandroid9825]

Freedom Road

[@melissapereira9879]

"We're richer, healthier, happier. We regret nothing". You're welcome!!!

[@Bluegrassman12]

One day, you will both be old and will have no children who love you and no country who loves you. But you’ll have your crypto. You act like these countries you’ve mentioned are perfect and America is evil. Good riddance and we don’t want you back. You’ll find out the hard way.

[@Bluegrassman12]

If there’s any reason to unsubscribe to these fools, this is a video that you clench it. You guys make me sick

[@ronaldmcmaster9148]

Why? What's so bad about what they said? ​@@Bluegrassman12

[@melissapereira9879]

​​@@Bluegrassman12this is NOT an airport...no need to announce your departure. FYI I don't think so at all. Truly inspirational. 😊

[@markcourtney4590]

renouncing the bill of rights and constitution is one of the most short sighted, dumbass decisions you could make. Good riddance.

[@gabakusa]

Amish communites here in US they dont have passports ID either SSN or birth certificate you can be free in USA

[@GBLahLah]

Well done you both, nice to see logical thinkers progress in life. All we have to do is question the narrative we’re given.

[@studentfoevamo]

Well.... You both are doing such a impactful great thing for all people.... Don't you ever stop.. Much Respect to you both

[@clearvibrations8006]

I LOVE IT!!!! I am in the process of buying a place in italy, bc CANADA SUKS! It is NOT the land of freedom! It is insanely expensive and taxed to the max with no real benefit to the citizens. You guys are paving the way with courage and truth!!! MAHALO!!!!!!

[@lucarmyfool4800]

Italy, overpopulated and not safe, try Greece...

[@clearvibrations8006]

@@lucarmyfool4800 Well actually, it is fabulous and so much better than Canada. CIAO!!!!!!

[@jamesdarley8656]

Best comment ever!! "Politicians are just a bunch of parasites!"

[@iueofhoiwef]

…and they moved to a country with different parasites 😂😂😂😂

[@GrandSlamJamBam]

just like you treasonous traitors

[@surfing20248]

You guys need to add a travel channel! I'd love to hear all the cool surfing locations you've explored :)

[@BENNETTTAKESALL]

Great video, thank you for all the information. I just visited Portugal this summer for the first time and I fell in love with it.

[@orangepearlf40]

I have dual citizenship. Costa rica is my goto when all hell breaks loose in USA. THANKS MOM!

[@BeeKay-fm6in]

My favorite of all your videos… ❤Love this ❤ to pieces… Thank you 🙏 for sharing. For a fraction of a second, it felt like I was, genuinely, a part of your lives… 💥So awesome Sauce 💥

[@Bull.2024]

Great content guys!!! Keep up educating people to become free.!! Cheers

[@douglasstewart2253]

We worked with Jennifer. Great experience.

[@FrancescoCaban]

Can you give a little info on where you were economically before you renounced your US citizenship?

[@Marty.-iy9hw]

Am happy for you guys. Love n appreciate the work you do

[@cryptobbq]

As an Indonesian, I love to hear you two love our islands. Hope someday I'll bump into you guys somewhere in one of those beautiful Gilis, Lombok or in some not so popular corner in Bali. Cheers 🍻

[@troymills9437]

Lots of unanswered questions, (1) do you not have family in the US? What are you going to do when your aging parents require care? Do you not have brothers and sisters? Do they now have to come to you if y'all want to see each other on something other than Zoom?, (2) You didn't mention where you got your citizenship, presumably Portugal?, (3) You didn't talk about the exit tax for people with a net worth exceeding $2M.

[@rivenoak]

plane tickets for family (2x per year or so) could be cheaper than taxes, so it might solve itself care for elderly parents is the real bump; you better convice parents to move earlier than that

[@paranoidandroid9825]

All negatives let go of the umbilical cord.

[@bryanproctor2983]

@@troymills9437 yep, I’m caring for my elderly parents. An opportunity to honor my parents. No way I could just leave my kids and grandkids. What a sad existence doing everything for yourself. That’s narcissism

[@troymills9437]

@@bryanproctor2983 - We are as well, albeit remotely. We moved to Mexico 7 years ago. Just got back from spending several weeks helping our parents adjust to new realities. Likely will be making multiple trips a year to go check-in on them. Time may be fast approaching where we just have to move back there for awhile.

[@jeanniesilva6741]

I am considering my age . Being a retired senior kinda leaning towards staying in the states. I do believe it would be worth it to live within a “softer” community where people aren’t so stressed. To live a slower pace. Fresh food and beautiful scenery.

[@devinkelly399]

Congratulations guys! ❤

[@Tchild2]

Looks like a very beautiful life, the beach, the tropical warmth, the surf. I have to go now, there are stacks of papers in my florescent lit cubicle I need to attend to.

[@jennyjones9548]

My favorite two peeps!❤🎉

[@medic1937]

Good for you guys! Whatever works best for you! I will probably never leave. I love my firearms too much.

[@markcourtney4590]

They don't appreciate human rights.

[@vicioustigris]

Being in the USA can be very chaotic and we find comfort in that chaos. Unfortunately for most of us in the United States, our culture has taught us to chase shiny objects and live paycheck to paycheck. Many of us would need serious work put in to even think about leaving the USA. I agree with your points!

[@DanielMurrey]

Thanks, you guys are an inspiration to those of us who are a few years back on the same Journey! Residency in Chile and Argentina for 2025 and hopefully citizenship and renouncing my US passport after that!

[@Miner-dyne]

Thanks for the video. We all will have different views on the why, but the result will be the same for almost all renouncers. Freedom

[@emerislinmer]

If you have a parent or grandparent from Ireland, you can get Irish citizenship.

[@bitKitty]

I love what y’all have done! I’ve tried to explain this to people before but I always fail miserably! Every point you laid out is every reason to renounce! I would not miss this place, only my family… and yes, I agree- politicians are scum of the earth! Warmongers and thieves and liars… I wish you all the best … peace ✌🏼✨

[@Centerflow]

I bought my crazy when finance was OK in the US. I’m set no worries. The finance gave me a chance to move out of the platform before they ended it for the US citizens. Thanks for the good info here in elsewhere.

[@GBLahLah]

I left society 18yrs ago, I’m healthy wealthy and free.

[@CryptoTips]

❤️

[@sacman5318]

nice!

[@styxinator91]

You guys are the best! Strongly considering giving up my norwegian passport for Indonesia/Portugal. Thanks.

[@marioevelyn-yg3dp]

Best video!!! There is hope😊😊

[@SocialNetArchitecks]

Well done you two! Keep smashin it!

[@Ed23038]

Time flies, i am following you already > 6 years

[@will_274]

The US government don’t make mistakes when they send money it goes where it was intended.

[@draterlarebil4506]

You guys are inspiring. Love your channel. Natures children.

[@Mb789x]

I ❤ what you said about your Christian beliefs. Very true. Say no to wars 🙏

[@cassinic370]

Renouncing your U.S. Citizenship is the Stupidest thing I've ever heard of ,Millions of People are Dying to get into this Great Country of Ours every Day. No Place on Earth I'd Rather be than The Greatest and Most Powerful Country in the World The USA.

[@myronbourne6937]

cope harder shill

[@anakagunggdeagung873]

Fantastic! What a life.

[@CalebLeverett]

This is the most informative video I’ve watched in a long time. 95% of my net worth is currently in alts and this is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you both.

[@trappedcat3615]

Clearly you like a lot of risk

[@CalebLeverett]

@ yeah. You ought to see the women that I used to fall for. Rekt 🤣

[@markdawes9640]

Carry on living your dreams.Great couple. ❤ from UK

[@Marty.-iy9hw]

Dream of the day I can join you ! I support n believe all you do.

[@shannonrusselldds2974]

I totally get it… but WE are not faced with an isolated/centralized problem in the US… this is a global problem… therefore, at some point in time, there is NO WHERE to run, talking with your feet sometimes means standing your ground, rather than tucking tail to run away… think about that as a paradigm shift as a Christian. WE MUST stand ground and fight… not run away!

[@dawson0610]

And if US ever falls then all those "safe" 3rd world countries will be hell and dictators will take over most likely since there is no one to protect them.

[@drx1xym154]

It is a global issue. Social credit scores are a thing, world wide - CCP mainland, Europe and USA/North America and beyond. The Military Industrial Complex is bad and now they are kinda _woke,_ so worse. The original cartel is The Banker's Cartel. All wars are bankers wars. When the rich and powerful go to war - it is the weak and sick to suffer and die.

[@drx1xym154]

Big Aggro and the Food Complex is likely worse than the Medical Industrial Complex - though they support each other ... crazy I know! I think we have a turning of the tied. Hopefully Mr Tea and his administration can assume office and swear in, without too much dramas and carry out and execute real US/American bedrock values. Not this ESG/ DEI/ Woke Zombie Regressive Nonsense! A real energy plan and a real monetary plan would be great! The Federal (not) Reserve (none) is an illegal NGO and needs to be dissolved, since at least 1971!

[@LTPottenger]

It will collapse. It won't be pretty though so no one will be jumping for joy

[@HELLOPATTAYA]

You stay, I run away and I keep my money 😂

[@timsmusic7349]

Portugal is in the EU. That’s why people want that passport. They want to move freely to any country in Europe. There’s a lot of people with Portuguese passports moving to Ireland. Also, you forgot to mention that they have national medical plans.

[@CitizenCraftymethod]

You may think covid protocols were stupid, and many were but its easy to criticise from an island in the middle of nowhere. Some of us had to operate in dense environments with many people around. I saw many quite ill people every day and I was grateful everyone was taking precautions. The amount of pink people not feeling the sharpness of winter as they were in full on fever was astounding. These people were NOT well. Employers were not doing the right thing and REQUIRED government intervention. This became quite evident.

[@rbar1234567]

Sharing this with everyone I know.

[@sossoreal24]

Well done. I love the commitment ❤

[@KYFHOme]

Isn't this an interesting concept- No one is "allowed" to be totally free- by existing you are "required" to be the property / subject of some government somewhere. They make it extremely difficult to truly be a "soverign individual." That would really break the matrix.

[@paranoidandroid9825]

We the people are SOVEREIGN not an individual, you can be a SUBJECT or a CITIZEN if you don’t register anything you are free until you need a QR Code to buy food with a PHONE.

[@boilerhousegarage]

Do you think you'd have still been religious if you were never born in the US originally, but held the same Austrian school/lassaiz-faire economic views?

[@pures1n]

I brought it up last time, but question for you two: Why didn't only one of you give it up? If one of you stayed a US citizen and ran your taxes through the non citizen you could have always had the option of going back. Go through the green card process for the one that didn't have it. Let's say you wanted to be near family etc etc in 10-30 years again. I get that you're happy now but you may one day want to "live" again in the US if it did ever turn its self around with the way things have been.

[@myronbourne6937]

greencard holders pay taxes.

[@pures1n]

@@myronbourne6937 bro, they would be living in a different country, one is a citizen, one is not (not a green card holder either) and if they ever decided to move back -- they could. and run their taxes / crypto through the non citizen until they return. Simple.

[@myronbourne6937]

@@pures1n the citizen is still going to pay taxes

[@pures1n]

@@myronbourne6937 they would be effectively earning $0. The non-citizen would be paying taxes to their current residency, which could be 0%.

[@myronbourne6937]

@@pures1n No, that's only for the first $112k and it only applies to income.

[@TheDuckHasArrived]

Good Luck, Guys.

[@thecleanslate1819]

7:11 💸Former Navy Seal, Shawn Ryan Show discussed this many times over the past year. It happens more often than you think. The only mistake might be how much they paid, as in, they underpaid. 💰

[@hertzollner]

That's awesome. That's the dream! I'm curious, what country gave Toby his passport based on his ancestors?

[@CryptoTips]

Germany. My grandparents fled in the 40’s.

[@jackjones3657]

As a current US citizen, I completely understand your reasoning! The latest election will curb some of the corruptions, but the culture in many ways, is absolutely on the wrong moral track.

[@mattb6646]

I agree, but walking away from the problem doesn't help anything. Be the change you want to see, don't turn your back on it

[@simonh7954]

The latest election will curb corruptions…… Be careful what you think you wish for. You put in a convicted rapist/felon/misogynist/liar/horrible effing human and you think corruption will be better. You think Trump’s working for you? Be careful what you wish for you’re going to get Trump all right and you’re not gonna be better off. Side with morality and humanity and day over a greedy orange smear

[@Judgeman-f3q]

All I care is that he's wrong about his prediction and he won't be responsible for it. Mf said price going down but it went up. Another trash scammer.

[@Judgeman-f3q]

All I care is that he's wrong about his prediction and he won't be responsible for it. Mf said price going down but it went up. Another trash scammer.

[@mattb6646]

@@Judgeman-f3q wrong prediction about what?

[@ThomasKuhar]

Freedom is overrated. I LIKE my cage! Seriously, I'm glad for you two and you found what is best for you!

[@BeeKay-fm6in]

😂😂😂

[@dlukton]

Whether to renounce... or not... depends more than anything else on where & how one earns one's income. If a person is able to generate substantial income from sources outside the US, and if he (or she) will suffer no loss of income upon renouncing, there is then a strong case to be made for renouncing. As for myself, I took a career path that made me highly dependent on... and inextricably linked with... the US economy and financial system. No renunciation for me (unless the US becomes like North Korea).

[@alter3go411]

I believe Didi has been living stateless for years now with no problems

[@ewc58]

In truth, for most Americans it will appear increasingly unnecessary to do so going forward. But I’m glad the choice will remain available to those who need to leave

[@kinghan26]

how has visiting friends and family been since you guys renounced? love the content guys!

[@CryptoTips]

They get to travel the world now too ✌️

[@geoms6263]

Renouncing US citizenship does not relieve a person of liability for US taxes or penalties incurred before the loss of citizenship. Therefore, even after renunciation, the IRS could still audit and assess taxes and penalties (and use any available enforcement mechanisms to collect taxes and penalties).

[@draterlarebil4506]

BS

[@timc3937]

@@draterlarebil4506 Roger Ver

[@sandyshoals7565]

Yes. Uncle Sam is a VERY greedy tyrant. Ask Roger Ver.

[@jaybo234]

Yes this is a really good point. In fact I think it makes you much more likely to get audited

[@jonnyjones4692]

No cap gains possibly coming to usa, so financial benefit gained was short lived. I don't care what you do, but the constantly talking about it and encouraging others scream subconscious regret

[@pickin6strangs]

Always awesome tips!

[@TheEvsmith99]

Yeah, I wish I had gotten into BTC earlier. Maybe could’ve made enough for my family to go too.

[@randomname931]

Right on about the US MIC. US citizen here, hating my govt.

[@joemartin8888]

I admire your journey....

[@lone982]

Living your best life travelling the world.... Love it...

[@hansvanham8136]

I think you guys took the right decision . If i am not mistaking countries like Singapore , Portugal , and United Emirates are good for doing the Crypto business . What concerns taxes and cost of living these countries seem also to be good . One thing you guys did not talk about and which is also very important is your social security and hospitalisation . See to it that this issue is good taken care of . Certainly if you also travel a lot abroad like you guys do . What concerns politics i do share your opinion . It is all about money and power . Politicians need to be there for the people and not for themselves . What you experienced in the USA , i experience in Belgium . Don't like it neither .

[@tcpwiz1]

Did you pay an exit tax to the US?

[@Thecornishhiker]

My wife and I are following in your footsteps. Amazing info as always 🙏❤️

[@genesis3157]

You guys are Awesome!!❤😎👍

[@j7pro629]

Question, could you have gotten dual citizenship? What's the main difference?

[@thehimalayanyeti733]

I left US coz of hate and crime

[@mickeykeymoaw]

Well Done !

[@jeanniesilva6741]

Do you have to buy a house to establish residency or can you rent for 5 yrs ? Thank you

[@pumuckl0]

@@jeanniesilva6741 Just buying real estate or renting in itself is not enough to get residency or citizenship. Citizenship by investment is one way of doing it, but you need a lot of money to make the investment and buy the real estate required by the program without financing. Those programs range from $250k-$1mil, but at least with the real estate programs you get real estate that you can live in or sell later. If that's not your price bracket, you should look into citizenship by descent, sponsorship for occupational shortage jobs (that's how I got my second citizenship) or paths through the digital nomad visa (like Italy citizenship after 10 years in the program).

[@kc4091]

I love you even more talking about surgical procedures on minors and the upside down world we're living in here. The country has been captured and I don't think the majority are behind the madness.

[@kaylalucky]

I would love more contents for options for second citizenship!

[@pensionnewschannel5176]

So are you Indonesian?

[@rivenoak]

the links point to St. Kitts&Nevis for Heidi, dunno about Toby but if his passport is by descent then it is a completely different one if they maintained residency in portugal long enough they may aim at that next.

[@pensionnewschannel5176]

@@rivenoak interesting.but why would you want to hide your nationality…

[@rivenoak]

@@pensionnewschannel5176 from another answer: Toby is a german now and his passport is a better one than St.K+N or even Portugal. Crypto Tips seems to bank on the simple preference you better renounce US and whatever the new citizenship will be is of secondary concern. you can always do CBI for additional citizenships within months and then aim for citizenship of the capital players on long term. in their scenario Toby is german and Heidi might turn portugues soon-ish. you are welcome with any passport of those two to seek for residence permits AFAIK and you are not in need of another citizenship anymore.

[@mrwilliamwonder]

At the end, did they say it costs 250,000 to renounce?

[@lucarmyfool4800]

Are you gona invest BIG in brics coins in the future? You both look like hapier than ever guy's keep on rocking!

[@walkingwithme7714]

Love you guys ❤

[@vfeuer9236]

agreed 110% with you guys

[@KYFHOme]

4:50 updata, it just recently became > $36 trillion....

[@robinbailey55]

Toby looking badass in those glasses 😎

[@ottofarago2690]

WoW! Reading the comment section is nothing short of quite astounding! Let me pass no judgement so I will not be judged. I honestly, would have have a few questions but I doubt you would or could answer in the wide open Internet. But who knows with a great deal of luck I may run into you somewhere. Maybe in Portugal. Given my much riper age than yours, I only discovered crypto in 2021. Unfortunately... Good luck and above all good health on your journey. God bless you two. You Guys are one of a kind and fabulous.

[@naturalselfyoga1617]

You can travel to all of those places with US citizenship. Lots of people around the world dream to be US citizens. 2 less people we need to provide social security and Medicare for. I'm making so much more money here in the states than I could as a 52 year old man anywhere in the world. I never locked down in the states. I got tons from the US government from it. I used my covid money to buy bitcoin. Goo's luck.

[@CryptoTips]

Don’t you just love that Bitcoin is borderless?

[@myronbourne6937]

Ok dork

[@gregjon2260]

7:02 yeah I hear you.

[@hadrianj684]

Christian and carnivore and crypto investor and digital expat/global citizen... Toby is my people

[@rich3124]

You're a Christian Toby! That's great news! God bless brother!!👍🙂

[@theregionalj1944]

The region misses you!❤ enjoy the blessed life, well earned

[@EmpowerWave-ol2ol]

Awesome well done. Are you still liable for tax by the US government.

[@pumuckl0]

@@EmpowerWave-ol2ol You have to file a last tax return when you renounce and you must pay if you owe anything then or in backed taxes before they will approve your renunciation. Renouncing does not rid you of any tax liability you have.

[@2ndTim3_1-6]

Great video, nice to see you both chatting. Crazy that your ex govt wont let people go in terms of tax withourt renouncing

[@mohammedali5092]

You are my heroes

[@sofianm.m.baitelmal5971]

Which citizenship do you have now?