WHAT Went Wrong With Arcane Season 2 Finale

[@Verlisify]

Actually, how Ekko gets nothing positive for being the selfless GOAT he is makes the Arcane finale even worse

[@Bionickpunk]

Moral of Arcane's story: Crime pays off, especially if your name is Singed.

[@vincentma7778]

sometimes taking a leap forward means leaving a few things behind

[@ntdb0ss]

@@Bionickpunk To everyone who knows the lore, not as much as warcrimes

[@lazymate7421]

get the lesbians together happy end

[@icarusrising2787]

@@Bionickpunk for Singed to no longer be held to Noxus to be their source for the chemical weapons they use against Ionia yet still get his happy ending was a twist I was not expecting.

[@sonagi98]

No scene at the end where they stand at each others side in front of a sun rise and say "we are the league of legends" 0/10

[@BadEggsGrimm]

Lmao real!!

[@masterminez9305]

Would be cringe tho

[@shinkounova8485]

Scene was obviously cut out due to Vi's extended muffin diving.

[@qxillanote9952]

@@shinkounova8485cupcake?

[@michaelka3071]

@@masterminez9305 cringe? it would be absolute cinema if it happened

[@EasyHunii]

vi and ekko didn't even talk once to each other the whole season. Like wtf

[@Rose-zq5xo]

@@EasyHunii wait for real

[@Rose-zq5xo]

@@EasyHunii I was wondering why something felt off

[@DarkStar755]

Literally, that pissed me off so much

[@versety3170]

They are still alive and living in the same city. So it’s fine

[@syca5094]

Thats actually crazy.

[@haorshiro6481]

The true ending is everyone is alive. Piltover and zaun lives peacefully. Jayce said: maybe the arcane was the friends we made along the way. Sunset, everybody having huge party with meat while viktor conclude: we truly are league of legends

[@seemo9411]

Heimerdinger: yo viktor you should get knee surgery tomorrow

[@jft2nd]

@haorshiro6481 don't forget the part where Jayce Said "it's Arcaning Time!" And Arcaned everywhere. Truly one of the endings of all time.

[@ireliamysoul5910]

give some disco track to the party wgere everyone dancing😊

[@Penguin-Cappuccino]

To me the ending simply felt soulless. It's like they were checking off some boxes to conclude the character arcts. I've never felt so disconnected from characters I cared so much about 2 episodes prior.

[@catchupichu]

@@Penguin-Cappuccino I felt the same. Especially about Jinx; she's one of the main characters and driving forces of the story, yet her final moments in the show are left ambiguos. Did she survive the explosion and ride off in that blimp? We will never know. It left me feeling very unsatisfied.

[@Rose-zq5xo]

@Penguin-Cappuccino I feel the same soo much ambiguity like it's the end atleast let the characters have proper goodbyes(eg.mel and Jayce) and if you're going to kill a character then make sure it's clear like did jayce and victor die or were they teleportedto another realm like what kind of ending is that Plus can someone explain to me what exactly is causing the corruption because I thought Victor was in control?

[@tumpalechawinga7859]

Felt the same, didn't feel like there was enough build up to achieve the payoff they intended

[@bonesaw7468]

I know nothing about the lore but here is what i thought. Making Jinx the symbol of resistance wasn't fleshed out at all but probably still the best part of the season. Isha and Jinx's relationship was rushed and came out of nowhere. Isha's sacrifice, while emotional, made no sense and was kind of pointless in the end. Letting the beast wreak havoc would've helped them more. Caitlyn's motivation and goals change drasticly on a whim. It was also hard to tell if Jayce was even the good guy in this season. He just swings/fires his hammer at everything he sees out of fear and seems to make things worse at times. Were Viktor's ex-junkies happy? Did they have individual consciousness? How much of it was Viktors influence on their minds. He tried to help Vander but i didn't know how to feel about his little paradise, morally speaking. (at least he gave you a choice back then) I liked it more when the use of magic was a metaphor for how innovation can be weaponized in our world. Something that happend all too often. Now it just turned into multiverse, time travel, followed by a weird hive mind thing. Peace through lack of individualism... really??! Last but not least, the finale. Talk-no-jutsu followed by, villain who caused it wants to make it right, cliche. The time travel Viktor-magician reveal was both predictable and kind of nonsensical. Then again, i guess you get away with anything as long as you bring multiverse into a story. Waaaay overused nowadays.

[@FunGayBun]

Isha felt more like a plot device than a character, so I couldn’t get invested in her and couldn’t feel emotional when she died. Especially when they don’t even really reflect on her at all after she dies (Jinx only thinks about and references Silco, not Isha).

[@jft2nd]

I'm just gonna say it. That S e x scene was unnecessary, badly timed, and made me feel uncomfortable watching it, i feel like Vi doing it in her depressed sisters old jail cell just didn't sit right with me.

[@agedisnuts]

dude the fanbase is like 70% lesbian, give them some fan service

[@socriabbas454]

Yeah tbh very unnecessary.. ESPECIALLY when Jinx was actually planning to unalive herself until Ekko was there to changed her mind.

[@alterrayalterr.f.m5461]

Kinda agree with that…. But that’s what makes the scene kinda realistic as well (Neon Genesis Vibe 🫣🫣🫣)

[@Blackswwordz-f4r]

thats why I hate Vi

[@Yokaisenn]

It was uncomfortable to watch indeed

[@masonliang4493]

They tried to cram too much into 9 episodes. If they just took their time I feel like they could have made it so much better. The finale was a huge letdown.

[@Isacc143]

one episode costs 10 million. Try to not rush it with that budget.

[@user-x7dc2pq7n]

@@Isacc143 Why did Warwick need to be introduced just to immediately die? Doesn't sound wise to spend 100k on a character who barely does anything

[@masonliang4493]

@@Isacc143 More seasons also means more profit/success

[@randomdude10011]

Warwick has regenerative capabilities doesnt he?!?!?.?.

[@barb-bi]

10 million!!??? ​@@Isacc143

[@timeforce80]

9:00 the real problem with the sex scene was the fact jinx left to kill herself, and vi's like oh baby its been too long...if jinx was fine or agreed to help THEN it would have worked.

[@blueberrymarigacha3428]

I completely agree but at the same time jinx was the one who told vi to not worry about her anymore and that she should be happy with cait. But I still found the timing not really good like it felt little off

[@Dragonblade722]

Yah it was really bizarre and tone deaf. Us Vi/Caitlyn shippers didn't need that scene. Also, correct me if I'm wrong or if I'm misremembering, but wasn't Caitlyn technically in a relationship with Maggie. I know they shoehorned her into being a traitor to get her out of the way (another thing I had issue with), but she didn't deserve to be cheated on like that.

[@lolicongang.4974]

​@@Dragonblade722i hate vi like everyone else. Ok But I understand the one thing you really want walked away from you and the other is right in front of you, I can't blame her for taking that nuce peace of ass.

[@aechmea2855]

@@Dragonblade722 But Maddie only slept with Cait to keep an eye on her when Ambessa couldn't. She wasn't really going out with Cait and I really doubt she had feelings for her. It was part of her spying.

[@ephemerald5]

IKR I FELT SO MEH ABOUT IT. LIKE OKAY GOOD I GUESS BUT UH YOUR SIS IS ABOUT TO OFF HERSELF 😡

[@vvgr409]

As a LoL player the most disappointed thing in whole Arcane was Warwick. Imagine starting his character development in 2017 when his rework established his connection to Vi and Jinx, show him as human and father figure to them in 2021 when season 1 was released, then kill him and start generating hype about him turning into werewolf we have in game, give his incomplete transformation and reconcile all three (Vander, Vi and Jinx) for a moment in 2024 in season 2 and end it with killing him again, turning him into something that looks nothing like in the game and basically whole different character and kill him again at the end. There is not even a single scene where he looks like in the game.

[@MeraBun-rg2uq]

Yes, I felt the same way :( There were also a lot of plots started in general, more and more characters were added but nothing was finished properly... I'd rather have fewer characters and plots but better finished.

[@dertanlee6510]

Its vander s tragic fate ,thats what a tragic character is ,if you had the thought of "he deserved better "then they succeded

[@Sebpv2006]

Yes, that was really bad. Build a character and then destroy it.

[@dertanlee6510]

@@Sebpv2006 vander was a character since season 1 So we cant give characters a tragic fate?

[@Sebpv2006]

​@@dertanlee6510 The problem is not that it is tragic, but that they make a robot out of it. The warwick that was built was this beast with uncontrollable rage. There was a moment where it was going to be civilized, but then it want in rage mode again when Viktor was shot by Jayce. That was really cool. Then converting the character into a robot was lame.

[@Lucarioforce]

As someone who had little League knowledge, I still found the season to be all over the place. There were moments of great emotion and beautiful art. But most of the time, I found most of the characters to be so frustrating and the story somewhat disorienting. The finale left me feeling pretty indifferent, just wanted something better or more satisfying.

[@zdalla3983]

Even knowing league lore, it made no sense

[@darkstraylily1477]

I know none of it, and same. It was too rushed and too disjointed. The only episode I actually liked in last 2 acts was the one with Echo being in another reality. It ran smoother than the rest

[@SuryaGupta-te7fq]

I highly recommend going back to watch season 1 in its entirety. Makes you realize how goated the first season was, the perfect mix of storytelling and animation. Second season might have better animation but it means nothing as the story doesnt hit as hard

[@syca5094]

Even with lore its definitely all over the place. I would have happily waited if they broke the season in half for 2 seasons.

[@Steven9567]

@@SuryaGupta-te7fq season 1 storytelling wasn't good either all arcane has is looks and action seasin 2 had very little action to hide how bad the story wirting is

[@Haloman1346]

Bruh how many times does Warwick have to die for the fucking plot?

[@devanman7920]

one more baby

[@fiaschampion3379]

Not enough. He will die 4 times in season 3.

[@AgustinAlbero]

I was expecting him to go full wolf, not golden bat

[@adamqutaefan8969]

​@@AgustinAlbero it's like some prestige skin type shit

[@shap7296]

@@fiaschampion3379there’s no season 3

[@Scharrer23]

A big disapointment for me was Ambessa in the final chapter. Her plan didnt made any sense. So there is this already super powerful hexcore jesus victor. And viktor wants the to get to the hexgate to become even more powerful and to covert all humanty in his glorios evolution. Why would Ambessa help him with that? She cant be that stupid to belive that she can control him after he would have reached his goal.

[@Spherrum]

I doubt he bothered to warn her about what he's going to do. He just promised her an army of those battle dolls.

[@reptipis148]

Her plan made sense in a certain way, because she saw Viktor as a potential weapon to destroy the Black rose. She was blinded by her greed for power that she could not see the monster he really was.

[@coffeelink943]

She needed Viktor abilities to help destroy Black Rose because she had no one else turned too. At the end, she was merely Viktor puppet and has no intentioned in helping her ambitions that didn’t involve his plans for recreating a perfect world of no pain. If Ambessa knew her daughter had potential then she would likely never cross blades with him

[@rat7570]

Thank you for that, i thought i was the only one

[@maxgehtdnixan4913]

Ambessa makes me not want anymore Noxus content. They're going to ruin my main's homeland the way they're lumping Shuriman aesthetics into it and all the Noxians turn out to be lemmings following a very un-Noxian personality off the cliff.

[@angelalveras101]

Vi wanting some Caitlynussy over stopping Jinx from killing herself is what bothered me the most. Like it couldn’t have been THAT good to go and ignore your sibling you’ve been obsessed and protective for over a season and a half.

[@Pla_sma]

Vi didn’t know what Jinx was exactly was going to do.

[@EvanNeedsTherapy]

@@Pla_smaI think she did and it’s kinda naive to pretend she didn’t. Just listen to the dialogue and how broken jinx looked. There’s no way she didn’t know

[@sythc6]

@@Pla_smastill the show prioritized relationship over sisterhood which is fucked up as we see the show ended with Caitlyn and vi being together instead of the sisters. what im saying is the show started with sisters it should’ve ended with the sisters!!

[@icarusrising2787]

​@Pla_sma bro that's her sister. Idc how anyone wants to try and defend that sex scene, if my sibling locks me up and basically says "just forget about me, I'm going to finally stop messing everything up" especially considering the circumstances that happened prior, I'm going to immediately think that they're planning on doing something they can't come back from. The fact that Vi didn't even try to see her from that point to when Jinx showed up in the balloon and yet Ekko somehow knew what was going down is a criminal level of putting fanservice relationships over a family bond and somehow ignores 90% of what the show is built on.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@sythc6 exactly. The show was all about family bonds, sisters, fathers mothers, brothers. They should've kept the focus of act 3 on them.

[@Jacob8762]

Seemed like Victors plot alone couldn’t been half a season, and season 2 felt more like fan service and way too much unfolding for the sake of story. Keep the relationship with Vi and Jinx going because that’s what made the show strong, but they really fleshed it out and made them less human and more roles to tell the story

[@raultamjid9725]

Season 2 ending was "Arcane fan-service". Not league lore fan-service.. that's what bothers me.

[@mortimamori2330]

The funniest shit to me is Ambessa. If you don't play league and know nothing about it Ambessa was released as a playable character in game to promote Arcane. Not only that but they did everything to hype her up. She received: - An animated music video - A legendary skin on release (which is one of the cooler tiers of skins in-game) - They announced a book about her, which is going to be released next year All this hype for a character just to kill her a few weeks later

[@vvgr409]

Ambessa is Arcane character in the first place, the decision to bring her to the game came much later so at least her fate is justified. What they did with some LoL characters is funny shit. Imagine building hype for Warwick starting from his rework in 2017 where his connections to Vi and Jinx were established just to show him with his incomplete game design, turn him into something completely different and kill him third time in the series.

[@07.quanghuy49]

if only silco was getting the same treatment

[@CsongorCsatlós]

If you know, you know why he isnt.

[@andrebatista8214]

They rushed things out, it deserved a 3rd season or longer episodes

[@Verlisify]

Or more than 9. When I saw the lineup I thought there was no way they get a whole season with finale in just 9 episodes

[@brandon-ffelicity]

i feel like it wasnt really a pacing issue, the first season was paced the exact same, 3 episodes for each arc. The second season just had way different types of arcs, like instead of arcs that revolves around family, tragedy, and character tension. We had arcs revolving completely new types of magic, time travel and the arcane. Im not really the biggest fan of what direction season 2 went but i can appreciate what they were going for 😅

[@Tractorfuture]

​@@Verlisify the main problem was they didn't actually get the 5 seasons. It was impossible to shove all that into 9 episodes.

[@Ttegegg]

@@Tractorfutureno it was definitely 2 seasons. But they definitely went overboard after act 1

[@Nickolai20599]

@@Ttegegg The first three episodes were great, pretty much as good as season one which I consider a masterpiece in more or less every way.

[@JackMeadows6322]

I'd like to believe that somewhere out there is a Directors cut where season 2 has 22 episodes all 1 hour long.

[@antares3030]

I'm really hoping ekko's gonna time travel and save the series and we'll get more and improved episodes next week

[@matterking1]

He already saved the series. ​@@antares3030

[@scotttempest8857]

I think episode 9 should've just been thrice as long making it a whole movie finale

[@papastrella.ianmussari]

For me, this season ends on act 2. They could've ended the show with an open ending liked they did on season 1. Hell even it would have been so much better to stretch 3 more episodes around the thematics of act 1 and 2. Act 3 is totally pointless and feels rushed.

[@FelAhKiin]

I strongly agree, act 3 really feels out of place. While i pretty enjoyed episode 7 and is to me one of the best of the season, the two next episodes where kind of rushed. All that mess with jayce and viktor was kind of unnecessary and i would rather get something more centered around singed being the main villain with ambessa like the way it was going at the end of act two. Ambessa suddenly being an ally of viktor and helping him possess the entire humanity is just bullshit and doesnt help her own business. And I dont talk about Vi and Cait jail scene which was really weird because jinx just told Vi that she was going to end her own life. It really felt like they had to put this scene at some point but did not find the place to do it properly so they put it in the most inappropriate moment in the last act. Weird.

[@papastrella.ianmussari]

​@@FelAhKiintrue! Episode 7 was interesting. But 8 and 9 were kinda disappointing.

[@annett_55555]

The things I'd love to see in s 2: - more of Sevika. I feel like the writers had something planned for her but changed their minds. After saving isha she either disappeared for a long time or was just there as a background character. Where's another fight with such a fancy arm? - Sevika's and vi's interaction, at least about how they resolve their issue and decide to not be enemies anymore - Jinx talking to isha's image for the last time like with silco. She doesn't mention the girl after her death. That's strange - Jinx saving caitlyn before fighting "vander" in the last episode - Jayce's and caitlyn's last interaction as old friends - more of jayce and mel. They're a couple, common. They needed a proper goodbye. He made up with victor but couldn't have 1 dialogue with the woman thanks to which he achieved great things and saved the world? These 2 seem to have forgotten about each other - at least 1 Ekko's and vi's interaction, especially after powder's death - Jayce finding out about the fact ekko's responsible for the incident in his apartment - ekko telling everyone about heimerdinger's sacrifice - caitlyn apologizing to vi for shit she did to her - singed should've died - more of ekko and jinx in the original world. At least 1 convo or flashback of their childhood before the last fight - more episodes. The last 5 are very rushed with so many characters, conflicts and plotlines. Either there should've been 15+ episodes in the season or make then season 3 about piltover and undercity preparing for a new war, fighting a common enemy and finally making peace after that - the people jinx rescued from prison should've paid her back and helped her somehow

[@Scharrer23]

i agree that isha was such a focus in the Jinx storyline and then we dont get any mention of her sactifice in the finale?

[@truthbullet-y8f]

I agree with everything but singed dying... i love that he got awat scot free

[@annett_55555]

@truthbullet-y8f he did too much harm to stay alive

[@truthbullet-y8f]

@@annett_55555 yes! That's why is so cathartic to know he got away with it, why those who fought die

[@laisamalforme5578]

​@@annett_55555 and jinx didnt?

[@alexandertjorna3719]

The major problem with season 2 is that it went from being so down to earth to becoming abstract with apocalypse and magic etc. This is wrong in itself. Promises and payoffs. The entire tone of Arcane is that it's practical and down to earth with hints of magic and larger concepts outside the story which also gives a feeling of a vast world. They should have completely skipped the story around the anomaly and The Arcane. (I don’t care that it’s in the name). These are concepts and things that never get explained, are confusing, destroy already established lore and diminish the significance of other things while taking time away from other elements. The story around the Black Rose could have been hinted at behind the scenes without having any major significance for Arcane's story. It should only be hints. Which could be developed in the next project about Noxus. It would give the feeling of a larger world without taking away Arcane's down-to-earth feeling. And it would have made the viewer interested in potential future projects. What should the story have been about? The conflict between the two social classes! What the story was about in season 1 and what was built up to be expanded in season 2. The entire season 1 built up for the great conflict between Piltover and Zaun. And that's what the story should have focused on in season 2. With focus on the characters and their relationships as they need to deal with the harsh reality. That's what grips the viewer. How would I have structured the story for season 2? With a great war and conflict between Piltover and Zaun that develops throughout the season to then get a heartbreaking and impactful ending to the story between the different characters we have followed, but still leaves the larger overarching story with the conflict between Piltover and Zaun open and active. This keeps the world open and alive with possibilities for all other stories that can take place with other characters in Piltover and Zaun, while still getting a clear ending to the current story that played out in Arcane. What would that story have been? Okay, Jinx has just attacked the council and killed Caitlyn's mother and several leaders. Episodes 1-3 act 1 are perfect and build on this so nicely. The only change I would have made is that I would have skipped Isha completely. Instead, I would have dived deeper into Jinx's madness and instability that was so beautifully built up during season 1. I imagine Jinx really embracing the identity of Jinx and carrying out resistance against Piltover with full force through acts of terror and attacks. She's really a madwoman and villain, where her good side sometimes leaks through. These continued attacks from Jinx and some from the barons lead to Caitlyn becoming a dictator etc. I imagine that the hatred among Piltover's people should be through the roof. Especially if Jinx and people from Zaun carried out attacks and acts of terror that killed people in Piltover, maybe Jayce's mother too? This could pressure and force Jayce to use Hextech to equip the military. In other words, build on Jayce's hard side from season 1. Especially considering the anger he would feel after losing his mother. But also that he would likely have given up hope for peace considering they responded to the peace proposal with an act of terror in season 1 ep 9. Piltover's cruel response against Zaun would create tensions in relationships. Vi would leave Cait in the same way because of a fight and to be with her people. She can have her full drinking/fighting period with the big police guy. But then maybe she teams up with the Firelights who try to help the population in Zaun and resist Jinx and the other actors who commit terror attacks against Piltover. She and the Firelights try to find a peaceful solution with well-meaning/peace-oriented people within Piltover. Meanwhile, Piltover's brutality against Zaun and Jinx's active counterattacks with acts of terror lead to the Jinx cult being created. The group that follows Jinx and also wants to resist. Much more reasonable that this group is created if Jinx is actually an active party attacking Piltover! Then focus can also be on the Chem Barons. How these people and groups fight more directly against Piltover. Maybe we see the beginning of Renata Glass? In other words, Jinx and her followers stand for more chaotic resistance against Piltover with terror attacks and spontaneous attacks. While the barons represent Zaun's more structured resistance with troops and soldiers. Much better than just killing them off in some music videos. When it comes to Jayce and Victor, I think their conflict could have become so much better in this story. First of all, the conflict begins with Jayce supporting Piltover and providing them with Hextech weapons. Victor survives and realizes how to use Hextech to survive and to help others. Help via Hextech as a technical invention, not as some magical Jesus thing. I envision how Victor leaves Jayce and Piltover due to the conflict created when Jayce supports the offensive against Zaun. Maybe Victor saves some people from Zaun, maybe some supporters of Jinx, by giving them robot parts improved via his new Hextech knowledge. Then it turns out that these robot parts/improvements were used by Jinx's supporters to carry out additional terror attacks against Piltover, maybe this is when Jayce's mother dies? In other words because Victor is to blame, which Jayce understands because he recognizes the technology from Victor. This would have been the perfect catalyst for Victor's conviction about the glorious evolution. Because he realizes that humans are flawed, both Jayce and those he saved use Hextech as weapons and are all completely wrong. Solution: to remove the human factor from his robot improvements. So Victor doesn't just turn body parts into more robots when he saves them. He makes their minds and feelings more robot-like with his technology, something he's already done to himself. Glorious evolution!

[@alexandertjorna3719]

The story with Warwick still has much potential. Similarly, the story with Ambessa and the Noxus invasion. I think that Singed should have created Warwick. His goal is to stop death and save Orianna etc. But one change I would like to make is that he actually works for the Chem Barons. And they finance his work because they hope he can develop stronger weapons they can use against Piltover. They hope, for example, that they can use Warwick against Piltover. Additionally, Singed should have several other researchers who are employed by the Chem Barons to learn from Singed. This opens up possibilities for more researchers who exist in Zaun and who might later create Mundo, Zac, or Urgot etc. I think later that Singed might be captured during a raid from Piltover. This causes him to activate Warwick in the same way as what happened in the series, just that now there's a reasonable explanation. Warwick is intended to be used as a weapon against Piltover. Moreover, maybe Singed wants to activate Warwick to protect his lab/Orianna from Piltover etc. Meanwhile, maybe Jinx is planning some attack on the prison to kill masses of Piltover people and free prisoners. Vi is there with Firelights to stop Jinx because she will kill several Zaun people simultaneously through the attack. Shows how Jinx is insane. Then the attack from Warwick happens and Jinx is there fighting and then sees Vander. This should disturb Jinx's fanatical state. Maybe she comes back somehow? Vi should probably see this. But she's the only one who sees it. Piltover's people, Cait and Firelights with Ekko etc. should still see Jinx as a major enemy. Singed should later be recruited by Ambessa. Meanwhile, Cait is slowly getting tired of her dictator role and all the death. She is slowly getting tired of Ambessa and no longer wants to cooperate with Noxus. This could be done via dialog and meetings with Mel that is still in Piltover in my version. They are both tired of all the violence and hatred. And Cait maybe gets closer to Vi and Ekko again. Similarly, Jayce starts doubting himself and the violence. He hears about Victor's work of "saving" people by making them more robot-like. He wants to save Victor from this robot state he seems to have put himself in. Jayce maybe comes down to Victor's lab where Victor appears to be doing very inhuman things with people. This causes Jayce to stop everything to end their suffering. This leads to them all dying. A scene from the old lore. If you know you know. I think the season could end with the conflict against Noxus becoming larger. It's Noxus troops that hit hardest against Zaun. So Zaun is against Noxus and Ambessa. Meanwhile, a confrontation arises between Piltover and Noxus. This results in Ambessa being forced to leave Piltover with her troops. I still want to argue that Piltover and then also Mel (who isn't stuck in Black Rose story) have more soldiers etc. in their city to drive away Ambessa. This leads to Ambessa preparing her entire army for an invasion instead, I think that in smaller scenes throughout the season you can have seen how she prepared the whole army for a major invasion in case her collaboration with Cait ends. These scenes are also where we could have gotten hints about the Black Rose. Meanwhile, Ekko and Heimer have researched the Z-drive. Similarly, Jayce builds and creates more and more Hextech weapons. But he realizes they can be improved with Victor's help. So he gets help from Victor even though Victor is increasingly robot-like. Jayce wants to reconcile with Victor, but Victor is more robot pragmatic and only helps because it is reasonable. Then the great battle begins. Noxus invades and attacks both Piltover and Zaun. Which results in both parties being forced to fight against Noxus and defend themselves. Goes tough for them. Noxus is strong. This is also where they have a scene between Jinx, Vi, and Warwick in a similar way to what was in the season ending (but better and more credible). That Jinx sacrifices herself in some way. They fail to save Vander, because of something Singed did or so. So Jinx sacrifices herself in a similar way as Isha did to save Vi, Cait, Jayce, and Ekko. Her redemption. Then the battle against Noxus continues. They appear to be losing until Jayce and Victor's improved inventions and Ekko's Z-drive turn the battlefield. Ambessa maybe dies, or not. Maybe she is forced to flee. But overall Piltover and Zaun manage to defend themselves from Noxus. Final scenes. See how Jayce tries to reach out to Victor after the victory. But Victor seems to be too far gone in his glorious evolution. They go separate ways. Jinx is presumed dead, but probably isn't. Warwick is to be taken by Singed who makes the final transformation of him. Show Orianna and that Singed works under Noxus now. Vi is together with Cait and they work together with the Firelights to try to create more order and collaboration between Piltover and Zaun. Meanwhile, you see how certain houses in Piltover haven't given up on the conflict between Piltover and Zaun and they don't support Cait's and Vi's ambition peace, maybe Camille's house? Similarly, we can see in Zaun that several Chem Barons are dead in Zaun after the battle against Noxus, but maybe a scene hinting at Renata Glass and future chem baron activity. Similarly, a scene showing that Zaun is still a wild place. Several of the doctors who worked under Singed remain etc. Shows that this story is over, but the larger story between Piltover and Zaun continues. Similarly, a scene from Ambessa that teases the conflict in Noxus which will likely be the next project for Riot.

[@SSX1799]

Wow I gotta commend you. This is fire. Gripping, engaging, and easy and pleasing to visualize. I’ve been exploring mine and other peoples headcannon to soothe myself with how disappointing season two was. It’s been fun. I screen-shotted this and will reread it! Most likely, there’s going to be several “rewriting arcane season 2” videos, and you should make one because this is great. Why not throw your hat in the ring and get it in front of more eyeballs.

[@KuLifefinn]

sounds much better

[@ScreamingTc]

Too many characters, too many plot lines, and a lack of focus on thematic intent. Ideally, if you're going to write this kind of show, you need to know exactly where you're going thematically, and have it all planned out in advance. They didn't, and it shows. Damned shame, really.

[@Verlisify]

Yeah they split it into half a dozen threads and never found a way to weave it back together

[@picafresas1182]

Thought the same thing! I felt like they only planned out season one, leaving seeds for season 2 if it got approved. And when it did, I could tell they were like "shit we're geenlit! lets push it further to make it EPIC" at the cost of not developing those plots properly in season one.

[@rambo3636]

this. At some point the show just jumped between the different stories and in every one we as the viewer didn’t even know the context, like why was jayce so much after killing viktor, where did viktor get his malicious intent from, who tf was the black rose, how did vi and jinx get over their fued and how did cait just kind of forgive jinx? And tho I loved episode 7 it‘s also kind of random, that ekko fell in love with jinx/powder, when there was literally nothing between them before?? Like you said, they just started building to many roads at the same time and kind of merged them together to one big ugly road that didn‘t make much sense

[@joshuajoshua4175]

​@@rambo36360 iw

[@dmp1554]

You are too harsh. Shows of this magnitude are almost impossible to make a plan for that will last the show's entire lifetime. Expectations and conditions change rapidly. But regardless, try planning a tv show even a thousand times simpler than this show, you will realize it is not that easy, because most of the aspects of it are not in your control, it's in corporate overlord hands, driven by profit.

[@jonaszrybarczyk2227]

One of my problems is the fact that throughout the three arc, multiple ideas are introduced, immediately dropped, new ideas added, they are dropped to reintroduce new ideas and then left those ideas open for the future without resolving any of them. This whole season was a mess with no actual cohesion. It felt this whole time like they had ALLL those ideas, yet no time to actually apply them. Warwick was ruined for me, making him a weird… something? I can’t even tell what he is supposed to be. He defiantly is not a mutant anymore and more of a cyborg. Like… the end does not feel like an ending to a story, and it does not feel like it begins a new one either, it just… fells like the story froze in time. (Not a joke, it’s not funny) The story of piltover and zaun does not feel like it ended, but it also does not feel like it will continue either. Yeah, they did show Leblanc, and it was one of the most accurate portrayals. From what I understood in her interaction with Mel, she is recruiting mages to keep Mordekaiser at bay, just like in original lore, and Ambessa was consistently trying to fight against them without even knowing that something worse waits behind the organization. (This is how Leblanc sold herself, as a paragon. But everyone knows she is trying to harness mordekaisers power for herself.) However, Mel and Leblanc still feel rushed, show and say what you have to and move on. This whole season was one mess of multiple loose and cut off threads.

[@Verlisify]

It became too much to juggle and wrap up since they split everyone's story arcs so hard. I don't even think another act would save it. I don't think the writers thought that hard on the black rose. It feels more like a Legends of Runeterra style cameo of underlying worldbuilding than the actual lore

[@AutumnRose1397]

For me each act felt like a completely different story. Act 1 was pretty good. Tensions were rising and the fight at the end between Vi and Jinx made sense. I was completely thrown off by Jinx and Vi teaming up but got used to it. Act 3....besides ep 7, I feel like the action overtook the characters. I wanted some sort of closure for Vi and Jinx and did not like how they handled "Jinx's death scene"

[@dravenstamaria_]

I think the reason for this is because of how connected Arcane’s story is to League’s lore, Obviously, League is a long ongoing story of countless of champions and regions and Arcane being only a small portion of that story means that they can never truly “close off” a story in Arcane. Even though Arcane has reached its finale, Piltover and Zaun, the characters still partakes in the story meaning that their story hasn’t truly end.

[@icarusrising2787]

Exactly this. Not only does s2 as a whole feel like it will only feel better if Fortiche is given the green light to do more shows, but Caitlyn's rise to dictatorship had all of zero weight on the story. They had a really good thing going with Warwick then decided to completely obliterate it for all of 3 episodes where Viktor was actually his game self before he drops that personality entirely. Vi leaving her sister to off herself just to get some is a character assassination hitherto undreamt of. Jayce trying vehemently to kill Viktor only to flip a switch in the end and reconsider the fact that alter future Viktor saying "stop me and make me see that perfection is stagnation" doesn't mean "kill me and don't stop trying." Sevika is given a token seat on the new council and will likely be out voted in any decision she attempts to make to better Zaun because she's so clearly outnumbered. Mel winning a random and uneven trial by combat and assuming governance over a land she might as well be foreign to just shouts accident waiting to happen. And Ambessa and Heimer dying couldn't be any more of a fake out. Making the only consistently good characters Ekko and Jinx. The worst part is that you can't even say there was only one way everything worked out in the perfect future Viktor was trying to achieve because there's literally a whole ass alternate reality where almost everyone has a happy ending. So instead it just reads as Viktor's rabid attempts at self preservation instead of accepting his fate so that the largest amount of good can occur.

[@jonaszrybarczyk2227]

@@dravenstamaria_ ending a story and leaving it open for the future are two different things. I know riot propably wants to imply that this is only a part of a larger piece, but it’s handled so bad, it doesn’t even feel like there is a larger story. It just froze in time, the story didn’t end, but doesn’t seem that it will continue either. They should have resolved the loose threads and end the story, while imply that there is more to happen, that not everything is yet resolved.

[@baconx6476]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought this season was incredibly rushed. Confusing time jump, awkward fan service for the sake of fan service, leap of faith moments where it felt like they were going "just go with it". I feel like they needed a couple more episodes or maybe even another season for what they were trying to do. Overall, still really enjoyed the animations, one of the best around and it was still entertaining enough for me to somewhat look the other way. A very flawed ending to an otherwise fantastic series, lead by a really strong first season.

[@RiverseaYT]

Yeah I agree, season 1 is miles better.

[@catchupichu]

Here's a few points I wish to bring up about Season 2 (spoilers): - Heimerdinger's sacrifice is never acknowledged after Ekko returns. - Jinx's "death" left me feeling empty as it wasn't confirmed whether or not she survived. A main character since Season 1 and we don't get a proper conclusion on her fate. - Speaking of Jinx, her status as a symbol of the rebellion is basically forgotten by the end. - The rest of the chembarons are forgotten. - Piltover and Zaun being all buddy-buddy suddenly feels very rushed. They have had violent conflicts since the very beginning, and I don't think Zaun's residents would be willing to fight with topsiders so easily, even though they have a common enemy. - Caitlyn never apologizes to Vi for hitting her and leaving her to suffer in the pits after their confrontation with Jinx. These are just a few points I can think off and there's many more people have pointed out. Personally, I won't be watching Season 2 again on my own.

[@Dominx21]

The remaining chembarons were implied to have been killed or captured by Caitlyn’s squad

[@noahdevone1507]

Ya this whole season was just setting up future series or characters, I personally really liked it but I get why people are mad. This also upends a bunch of lore we already new about the characters so...

[@faith4657]

I get it, but most of the things were already touched or went consequential to the story. Jinx still played with her rebel leader thing when she came in to save the day, which got the zaunites to fight harder. Jinx and heimerdinger might still be alive cause heimer's race and jinx at the end with the blimp. I felt the rush, too, but i just focused on the plot.

[@JoyaLewisTheMusician]

i agree with all of that yeah :/

[@rambo3636]

just take the shitty way they reunited vi and jinx. It just felt so forced and skipped, like suddenly they put their tragic relation on hold and start being sisters again after all that has happened in season 1 and act 1

[@vladimirristovski7671]

I would still rewatched season 2 but it does not feel the same as season 1, the songs dont hit hard as in season 1, the plot floating above the ground unlike in season 1 where it feels grounded. The sole reason is the pacing and it feels rushed.Maybe i expected too much, over hyped season 1. It needed more screen time, whatever kind longer episodes, 1 more act or 1 more season. Its a solid 9/10 because after 2 watches because in 2 watch i paid more closely to some details which enhanced the story a lot. (exp after warwick went red rage at end of ep6 you can see singed behind me standing and it looks like he managed to inject that chemical he brought to him with cait).

[@lynx910]

my thoughts exactly, visually - masterpiece, without a question! But storywise.. it could have been much more polished, like season 1. Maybe I set my expectaions too high, don't know. But yeah it feels rushed.

[@TheReVmatch]

It should have been 3 seasons The show was too packed but it was definitely great.

[@Verlisify]

I don't think a 3rd season could have weaved all the threads back together

[@lolicongang.4974]

​@@Verlisifyit could have also make the episode longer XD more happy jinx and i swear if she died this show is ass

[@yourlocalwaifu8601]

​@Verlisify Yeah, I think a third season put onto the end wouldn't work. It'd have to be accounted for in the making anf pacing of s2, not tacked on

[@victorcalimano]

Yeah I think that's what he meant. Basically S2 broken up into 2 seasons from the start

[@TheReVmatch]

@@victorcalimano exactly

[@jammy5296]

I hated the ending. The fact that Jinx and Vi’s whole dynamic was the main premise in S1 but gets completely scrapped for fan service. Im fucking done 😒

[@B0ss_Editz]

@@TheMiguelPerez It should be called Skankcane

[@sixxkzs242]

@@TheMiguelPerez And? To think that a show has to be named after the characters for the characters to be the most important part of the show is the most small minded thinking ever

[@shap7296]

@@TheMiguelPerezwithout jinx the show would of never existed that’s like killing iron man in iron man 1

[@TeriGee24]

​@@shap7296 is this your first time watching a series where the main character dies?

[@SedriqMiers]

They chose the LGBTQ path and used Powder to elevate and give prominence for Caitlin all the while they used Powder and our emotions to lure us in while they had no care for her only the relationship of Caitlin and V despite V caring more for her sister they made it so Powder was used time and time again to keep the plot going and Caitlin relevant. If you care about LGBTQ more than sisterhood or family then obviously you will love the ending. But what has V got now more trauma, no closer just depression and bad memories. Glad there isnt another season, imo everything was great up to episode 6 Season 2, after that it just poorly scripted and executed with heavy emphasis a relationship many of us dont care about or interested in which is Caitlin and V (hey script writers majority of us viewing audience are not LGBTQ, however we do have sisters and families which again aren't LGBTQ too) .

[@CryingClouds1]

Only thing I didn’t like was the fact that even getting amazing moments of ekko and jinx together they still decided to waste time on vi and caits relationship when I really feel like we should have seen the reconciliation between ekko and jinx after he saved her that would have been really touching

[@ephemerald5]

I FEEL SO YPSET THEY DIDNT SHOW THEIR RECONCILIATION. IT WOULDVE HAD SO MUCH MORE IMPACT ON THE FINAL EPISODE UGHHH

[@ephemerald5]

@ ME TOO

[@shap7296]

@@chobusmin8202yea i though ekko would redeem jinx and give her a purpose but they killed the main character so idk

[@Moo.1336]

Eh, they could have cut something else out other than the prominent gay relationship of the series. Lol

[@07.quanghuy49]

we couldve had a longer scene where ekko told jinx about his experience from that other life, which would change jinx’s perspective about herself and make her realize her life is worth saving & worth trying but nope, we got more s3x scenes

[@Scharrer23]

Not gonna lie, as much as i love the show, i wished they didnt pack it so full with so many diffrent storylines. The whole paralel dimension/Hexcore Dimension thing was to much. (There is a reason why marvel waited a long time until they introduced this kind of stuff) The same with the Black rose. I think they would been able to tell more or less the same story but would had more time flashing it out. It would have been a perfect character drama.

[@clementchung919]

I feel that for the black rose, it would be explored more in their next cinematic cause it heavily implied the next one is gonna be about Noxus. Hence they kept it really vague. But at least give us SOME answers

[@antares3030]

I mean it worked well up until ep8 They just somehow forgot the whole PnZ thing and now it's all about Viktor and jail sex for some godforsaken reason Bro should've been a subplot, not the main event

[@Scharrer23]

@@clementchung919 the blackrose stuff felt like it was put in only for a spinnoff. But with onlx 9 X 35 min episode you dont have time for backdoor pilots that are unimportant for the story

[@demonseed360]

IMO the Viktor/Jayce stuff was great. The real issue was the Black Rose stuff which was completely disconnected from the rest of the story until Mel showed up at the end with new magic powers. It seems like in the final act, the Black Rose only served as motivation for Ambessa to team up with Viktor? Since the Noxians alone are more than enough to deal with Piltover.

[@thijmstickman8349]

Honestly if Jayce just died from the rocket the story would have been better. It would have given Kaitlin more reason to go full dictator, meaning the Vi-Jinx-Kaitlin drama would be even beter. Victor could survive by turning himself into a cyborg. After the attack he would see Piltovers bloodlust and leave for the undercity to provide them hextech/cyborg shit. That would actually make sense for his character, and fit with the lore, unlike the weird marvelesque story we got. In the story we got Victor all of a sudden turned evil, and it was really poorly explained why. He explained his new philosophy of wanting to cure humanity of being human, but I feel there was very little leading him to draw that conclusion, apart from the hexcore juice bath scrambling his mind, which is a really boring premise. Jayces actions after the time travel adventure made no sense at all. Why did he kill the council person, why did he attack Victor? If all that needed to happen was Victor touching Jayce so he could read his mind and realize his evil plan was evil, why didn't Jayce just make that happen instead of shooting him?

[@botyeeter97]

What bothered me the most with season 2 was how they forced the characters to pick the worst possible decisions, just for the plot and ending. It felt very over the top; unlike season 1 which was tragic, but realistic, characters behaved like their lives were at stake and things actually mattered.

[@kezp8114]

What decisions are you referring to here?

[@Aidanbrennan03]

@@kezp8114 I could be wrong but Isha suicide bombing Warwick literally just got herself killed and didn’t have any other effect besides from making Jinx depressed. Her death felt meaningless in my opinion

[@tellyg47]

@@Aidanbrennan03it was quite clear that her death allowed everyone to escape

[@rizwanzaman1793]

Here's what bothers me: I just don't know what Ambessa wants. Someone please explain In my understanding she wants to fight against Black Rose. Understood. Why wage a war against Zaun in act 1? Makes no sense.

[@krevetkosh]

She wants the hex stones to fight the Black Rose. However, she wants not just the stones but also weapons. Hence, the arranged attack is a way to put diplomatic Piltover in a corner to choose between diplomacy and defense. Choosing defense would mean investing in the hex weapons, therefore fulfilling her ultimate plan.

[@felipe96ification]

The war against zaun would have developed the hextech weapons she wanted so much

[@adami1738]

Ambessa is angry at fate. She Is a noxian badass general that uses whatever tactics and tools she can to level the playing field.... The reason is she's against the black rose, naturally gifted makes with natural arcane talents. She has no way to combat them except to use battle mage stones like her bodyguard and the entire reason of coming to piltover was to takeover hextech which allows people without Arcane talents to be able to use magic. This would let Ambessa who is running from the black rose turn the tide

[@rociomosquera9401]

Her main goal is to defeat the black rose. To do that, she heard about the hextech thing in Piltover but they were hesitant to make them into weapons so she stepped in to force them to make weapons by making the underground a real threat to Piltover. Then, she saw the potential on Viktor's soldiers which she could use to defeat the black rose once and for all.

[@TobiNano]

@@rociomosquera9401 Wasn't viktor's goal to end suffering and just turn everyone into his soldiers? Why would he help Ambessa?

[@JustCrash]

Not even a league of legends fan but I’m also disappointed. I was expecting they were going to help Zaun and try to reunite but that didn’t happen until like the very end, it should’ve been the first act.

[@shqy9178]

I’m just left thinking wtf just happened. I’m not sad or happy about it. The ending just feels empty?

[@Verlisify]

That's because there was so much none of it ended up mattering

[@VenusDuels]

I loved the Act 2 of season 2. However, as a whole, I think it is a just a good show, not a "Master peace" or "almost perfect writing" as many people is saying on social media, so is not only you not loving the finale. There is definitely some social media hype in the reviews. I think many people would look back into the show in a couple years, without the hype, and realize that it could have been done much better, especially with the season 2 finale. Thanks for your honest review.

[@Retroskiii]

The biggest piss off for me was the time paradox… Old Mage Viktor using hextech saves jayce to fuel him to create hextech to stop his future self.. so where did old mage viktor get hextech in the first place?

[@Verlisify]

Exactly. Jayce dies as a kid which means no hextech to ruin the future and time travel to save Jayce

[@Rose-zq5xo]

@Verlisify wait could you elaborate? And why doesn't old mage victor just kill current victor himself?

[@CountCalcium]

Viktor says that in every timeline it ends in the glorious evolution, and that Jayce is his only chance to revert it. My guess is even without Jayce Viktor still eventually develops (maybe not hextech exactly) the anomaly which grants him power. Hell, it might not even work the same way as it did. We see in the already destroyed piltover that the machines aren't white and golden, but simply metal which implies that that Viktor went down a different path but still ended up destroying piltover

[@07.quanghuy49]

everytime jayce and viktor yap about hextech, wild arcane or whatever that is. i just pretend i understand it and move on to the next scenes

[@Marceyboy1]

Bro ISHA sacrificed herself for nothing. FML I hate when shows does this.

[@xeeker4521]

I don't really care what riot says, how arcane is the canon. But this whole series is a different timeline because i wont accept it as main. And i really disagree with reworking viktor removing his cyborg aspect and replacing it with mysthical metal magic character. So yeah i still love arcane but as its own thing.

[@Dragonblade722]

Riot's statement is weird. After season 1 it made sense as while some things were canonized and/or different (Singed being Oriana's Fathe, Vander being Warwick and Vi and Jinx being sisters) they still were consistent enough to fit into the previous canon. We could see how Caitlyn becomes sherif with Vi as her special enforcer for example. But the second season went off the rails. Pretty much everyone is dead or out of the picture. The only ones who truly made it out were Vi, Catlyn, Ekko, Singed and Oriana (Jinx is a maybe). I know this is supposed to be the end of the Piltover/Zaun story, but they should have left room for future ideas or plot lines. I though the purpose of this show was to establish the character and show how they got to where they are in game.

[@adamqutaefan8969]

And tree more words (Ionei ' Nexus ' singed)

[@Bionickpunk]

​​​@@Dragonblade722 I would disagree, since already in S1 there were massive deviations in the world building and characterizations. Canon Piltover does not have the Hexgate tower, it has the Sun Gates Panama canal structure, along with Zaun being older than Piltover as a Shurima settlement, with the fisures created as a byproduct of Sun Gates construction. Also Hextech was part of the lore for years before Jayce even existed, as it was connected with the Ferrous family and Camille. Shimmer was not this Void mutagen, it was just a drug. Viktor and Jayces relationship was way more different, Heimerdinger was not Piltover's founder, Piddly was not a founder but Viktor's contemporary and one who stole Blitzcrank from him, Singed was not Orianna's father, Ekko had parents and Firelights did not exist, Arcane does not work this way etc.

[@vintageswiss9096]

Jayce was dying in the snow. The mage had to come back to save Jayce for the timeline to even happen. Without Jayce, hextech never gets created to begin with (hence the separate reality in ep. 7). So Viktor (the mage, supposedly) purposely causes the timeline to happen by going back in time... only to try an infinite number of ways to fix it... instead of just never saving Jayce to begin with... I truly hate timetravel stories... it's never planned out, and they always have to try to retcon in fixes that just make it worse the more you think about it...

[@strgz5329]

i don't play league , but even I heard that arcane is THE canon now, and the game will eventually adapt to it. Second far as we know heimerdinger just went home too, I didn't see a body, I didn't see any blood, no fur or anything. And generally I though the season was good, except part 2

[@Bionickpunk]

Do we even know that Yordles being immortal fae from the spirit world is part of new Arcane canon? Cause they were so nonchalant in completely changing the magic system with Hextech and arcane magic. Does the Void even exist or is that copied by Wild Runes? Who knows, this is the mess riot made by brute forcing AU show into main canon.

[@dreampiper]

The game isn’t going to change for Arcane. It officially took the alternate dimension route because they killed off Champions for it. Ambassador was just introduced into the game after all

[@Bionickpunk]

@@dreampiper Lewl, obviously you didn't follow Riots news in January. They said they will retcon the main lore to force Arcane in. They are already altering bios of several characters, while leaving most of the P&Z in lore limbo due to this decision.

[@galugeorge8320]

My main problem with the act 3 especially was how quick people were to forgive and move on,I feel like emotions were brushed over. Arcane having 4 arcs(12 episodes) would’ve probably helped a lot

[@MaraStaaru]

What made season 1 great was that it had this one basic overall plot where ALL the characters revolved around which was Piltover vs Zaun. Sure, you had some personal character plots going on at the same time but it never diverged from the main plot. Season 2 was all over the place. We went from a Zaun vs Piltover war to fighting an army of robotic white walkers controlled by Jesus with an accent. They just completely dropped the Zaun vs Piltover war like that 🫰. Jinx was going through some sever mental health issues that I think the writers forgot about because a couple of episodes later, she isn't as insane anymore and just become a hero because people like her now I guess. Vi literally got physically assaulted by her ex, yet there was absolutely no apology for that. Ambessa was being promoted like HELL by Riot Games only for them to kill her off at the end. Also, seemed rather dumb of her to be so trusting of a man who could basically mind control everyone he touches but anyway.... Mel being a random mage just because. Heimerdinger abandoning everyone to play country music I just... i have no words. The whole conflict in season 1 that was THE MAIN PLOT became resolved after Jake Gyllenhaal said "lets be friends and defeat the robots." Random characters that we consistently see that we didn't get enough screen time with but we're supposed to care about like Temu Vander. Honestly, Echo and Singed were the only consistent characters throughout the whole series. They couldbhave DEFINITELY created at least one more season at least. I hope they expand though with the new series which seems like it will be in Noxus.

[@jakefromstatefarm7527]

Jinx's mental state got better as she met Isha, Heimerdinger was hopefully waiting for Ekko and couldn't leave anyways because Hexteche hadn't been invented in that reality, so he enjoyed himself. And idk what you mean with Vi being physically assulted by her ex but everything else I totally agree on.

[@aoiyoru94]

I AGREE SO MUCH! like season 1 was all kinds of... wtf and disgusting at times. I really missed Pil vs Zaun. It was so simple!

[@AceDevice]

Damn must've been hard to watch arcane and misunderstand the vast majority of it lol... I feel bad for you.

[@oefebeele]

This guy forget that the serie is called Arcane... Everything is about the arcane... not the cities.

[@MaraStaaru]

That's not the point. Truth be told, I didn't mind the events (at least most of them) that unfolded in season 2. I just didn't like the pacing of it which is why I wished there was another season. I'm not alone in this sentiment. Many people say this show's main flaw is the pacing. Having a large war between a highly developed upper city vs an oppressed and abused under city isn't a small plot and wish they properly dealt with that before fully focusing on the Arcane. ​@@oefebeele

[@Bionickpunk]

A show was developed without the main canon in mind, was brute forced into the main canon by Riot executives due to its popularity, months before second season's release (so there was no time to fix the story in light of this decision). This ultimately screws over Runeterra main lore and it's fans, and it screws over Arcane lore and it's fans. This one decision also retroactively makes S1 worse, despite the pacing issues and story decisions in S2 that made it worse than S1.

[@saamael1381]

As huge lore fan, I was extremely mad and sad after finale. They destroyed so many characters. Forcing Arcane to become canon lore was huge mistake. I'm waiting some Rito lore shills make videos about final act and praise it.

[@joefernandes4256]

Up until act 3 everything was smooth even though it was still being rushed, i just don't know whether they had s3 planned ? and someone said nope s2 is where we pull the plug and they all ran out of ideas and rushed it all and executed it poorly. What a disappointment.

[@Verlisify]

I don't think the ending was rushed. All the ambition and complexity was too big to resolve

[@krzysztofgrabczewski8554]

There was no plan for 3rd season. Producer said it a long time ago. The didn't want to make cash grab. They didn't want to drag it for 10 seasons like others do. They wanted to make great story. He maid it clear it has to end after season 2. It was rushed, I admit. They could make longer episodes or more episodes, season 3 was never a possibility. Probably they haven't enough time for this season. It took them 3 years instead of 6 like season 1. It is great show anyway.

[@AfroSynergy]

​@@krzysztofgrabczewski8554 finally... Someone who makes sense here

[@D.KRyley-mq1do]

​@@krzysztofgrabczewski8554 they could have made it work, that's the thing. They just decided to expand to much to fast.

[@typhoon4994]

@@krzysztofgrabczewski8554 There's nothing wrong with having more seasons. The producer is out of touch if he thinks more seasons = cash grab. Is Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul a cash grab now?

[@codyd7841]

because they never explain until an episode later that jace has been in an alternate timeline it felt like he went wacko out of nowhere. im personally a little sick of the trend of using alternate timelines or alternate realities It feels like writing hacks for giving solutions and information that cant naturally be extracted.

[@Verlisify]

Its a crutch for bad storytelling

[@WangiV]

Honestly, I'm glad someone is giving a brutally honest about this, because this third act was a mess. Some scenes are just unnecessary, like the cell moment. Season 1 was absoulte Mount Everest peak, but this season was just bad.😔

[@Verlisify]

I wouldn't call Season 1 peak since it was too dependent on Season 2 being good.

[@ni5439]

Season 1 was good independently of Season 2. It was critically acclaimed and very popular before we got a confirmation of a second season

[@helenline1790]

​@@Verlisify it absolutely wasn't dependant at all.

[@rociomosquera9401]

"this season was just bad" Im sorry what? Act 1 and 2 are just masterpieces of storytelling and writing. Yes, the ending was super rushed, and I didn't like that, but that doesn't make the entire season bad because of it. Let's cool our heads and rethink this season again lol. Also, I loved what they did with episode 7. Episodes 8 and 9... rushed as fck!

[@viral4983]

Calling this season bad shows the lack of media literacy. It was anything but bad. Wish the episodes were an hour each, but they got to work with the time they were given, we couldve had it canceled after 1 season like netflix does with everything else

[@GGScrolls]

Only one thing wrong with the finale was Loris dying

[@Rose-zq5xo]

That unnecessary

[@GGScrolls]

@Rose-zq5xo Exactly, İf they are unaliving Loris why is Steb alive? They wasted his potential and I liked that guy

[@RouththeRLPanda]

@@GGScrolls there were definitely more things wrong but that's on the upper end of my list. His death didn't even do anything. Absolutely pointless

[@anthonyrobinson1572]

Brooo that shit hurt seeing that

[@imvention5696]

I hate how they killed all the bear characters in this story. Rictus, vander and loris.

[@Legendarial]

okay maybe we should have let them cook for another 6 years for a better finish

[@GeronimoOoO7]

We should’ve given them about 20 more years to teach their children how to write a good story

[@alecnorton5490]

If this final act was supposed to make me see that piltover and zaun are not so different after all and are just 2 sides of the same coin than the writers failed spectacularly all season 2 did was make me despise piltover even more as the spoiled, privileged, entitled elitist place that it is. And I hate that while jinxs love for violet is unconditional Violet's love for jinx is limited but apparently its not limited for her blued haired replacement copycat enforcer girlfriend. I mean vi basically helped cait gas all of zaun with the grey for exactly what? To get laid? How pathetic. But that's just my opinion and im ranting now.

[@ghostparty2062]

I was utterly disappointed over all. I loved season one so much, but season 2 felt rushed, emotionless, and paint by numbers crap. Isha was inserted for a big sad moment, but I didn't care when she died because she had zero character. Jinx was so boring compared to season one. The craziness was pretty much gone and she just felt like an entirely different character. Warwick just felt silly to me and again just felt like forced emotion damage. He never called vi are powder his daughter when he was vandar but now he does just because big sad. Music was irritating. Vi and caitlyns whoopy scene was just cringy and i skipped it. Nothing against gay people, but the wailing music and complete lack of Subtlety was jarring. Felt more like soft core porn. To many flashy artsy music scenes that felt like padding in a snow that's already rushed. I felt so uninvestited by the big end fight because nothing realy felt earned. I could go on, but yeh, I just found it disappointing.

[@Revelationz87]

I feel like arcane season 2 had a diferent script but then was rewritten to pander. Would be why it took 3 years for a 2nd season

[@meermeer6882]

The main issue is that the characters change too quickly without enough explanation. The primary example is Jinx. In season one we were supposed grasp the concept that Powder and Jinx were diffeewnt identities. In season two, the line between Jinx and Powder are blurred which if done right is fine; however, the change between Powder and Jinx is too fast and ambiguous. The second one ends with Jinx embracing being Jinx over being Powder. Jinx had the fight with Vi where we get a hint of Powder moments before her supposed to be death. Then, Warwick/Vander is found out to be alive by Jinx. My theory is that Vander being alive sort of "activated" Powder in Jinx. Powder's identity to herself is being Vander's daughter. To Powder, Vi is her sister. So, when Powder is activated again througu Vander being alive, then the relation from Powder's view between Vi and Powder is being sisters again. Then, Isha and Vander died. So, Powder is gone again and leaves Jinx in power which is why we get Jinx locking Vi in the cell. For some reason, Jinx believes that the cycle of killing goes on because of Vi and her; so, Jinx is set on non-aliveing herself. (I think she does not try to kill Vi because at her core she is still Powder?) Ekko stops Jinx from non-aliveing herself; which, I think makes Powder activate again because Ekko and Powder are friends (side note: I do not know why Ekko calls Jinx his friend. Yes, he had the dance with the healthier Jinx in another universe, but why does that make him call this Jinx his friend?). This puts Vi and Jinx/Powder as sisters again; which, is why Jinx tries to save Vi. The issue with all of this is that the events happen without clear explanation of why they happen. If you view it with an eased mind that is not trying to connect all of the dots, then you get just characters changing their mind without explanation. Also, Jinx's change in season one sort of means nothing. She wasn't stuck being Jinx while not being Powder. She was just Jinx with Powder easily coming out. Yes, the character still makes sense, but it makes the season one ending a sort of illusion if the story is supposed to make sense.

[@Verlisify]

I was ind of getting at that with my part about the anxiety of which character ruins everyone's happiness. Then it becomes "Kill jinx" "don't kill her" "kill her" "don't" "I'm win Ambessa" "Psych. Don't kill Jinx" Also why Ekko and Singed are the best characters. Consistent

[@meermeer6882]

@Verlisify The issue of people changing their mind quickly regarding whether to kill Jinx or not is the result of not giving us enough time to allow the psychology of characters to fall upon us. The psychology of characters in association with events make sense when you think about the events hard enough. However, the fast pace makes the character ambitions ambiguous to the point you have to critically think for the story to make sense. We have the sensory stimuli and then we have our mind constantly asking ourselves why a character does something. If we have a super fast pace and not enough time to explain the character's psychology, then we get a lot of visual stimuli which is meaningless or at least if we can connect the dots, we get a story that feels blurry because you don't know if that's what the writer really intended. To me, the show felt like I was filling in the blanks and finding reasons rather than having the psychology of characters being solid.

[@meermeer6882]

Of course, the whole show did not feel like I was filling in the blanks. I understood Viktors mentality and Jayce's, and Ambessa's. However, many of the characters got lost in pacing

[@JonathanJuan]

“For some reason, Jinx believes that the cycle of killing goes on because of Vi and her” wdym ‘some reason’?? she LITERALLY thinks she’s a jinx who causes everyone around her that she cares about to die. She thought she had a second chance when Vander came back as Warwick, but then when she lost him AGAIN along with Isha, she broke But Echo realized how much of Powder was still there, and was able to use other Powder’s words to reach her and convince her that she wasn’t, in fact, broken. There wasn’t any curse. There was beauty in her imperfection - the same beauty that Jayce sees in Victor, who he’s able to convince in that same way.

[@meermeer6882]

@@JonathanJuan I get that psychology, but I think the way they tried to portray it was done poorly. Silco in hallucination form says, "the cycle of killing won't stop with you two (Vi and Jinx), stop the cycle." Hallucinatory Silco also said something about how Vander and himself were a part of that cycle of killing. What is this cycle of killing? Is it Jinx killing her loved ones because of opposing sides? How does Vi tie into the cycle? Does Vi tie in because Jinx thinks she will kill Vi? Does Vi tie in by her being the one Jinx cares about? How does the cycle play out between Silco and Vander and also Vi and Jinx? If the cycle is that Jinx finds someone she cares about then messes up, then how does that cycle happen between Vander and Silco? The idea of the cycle is the idea that drives Jinx to do what she does. Yet, I think we don't get enough details about what this cycle is. I do see your point and it makes sense that Jinx would think that way; however, I am confused about how Jinx' thought that she is a Jinx that goes through a cycle of killing her loved ones WHILE that same cycle happened to Vander and Silco. We could make the argument that Vander and Silco were both killed by Jinx and so they were included in the cycle; however, it can be interpreted that they meant the relationship between Vander and Silco caused killing. The question about what the "cycle" is, is too open which is bad because this cycle is the principle that drives Jinx to unaliveing herself. In regard to Ekko, your psychology of the characters makes sense, but the psychology wasn't explained well enough in the show. In the show the senses tell us he had a date night, went through a wild rune, and saved Jinx. The show did not explain how the experience in the other universe changed his beliefs about Jinx in the OG universe. I would like to ask a question: how exactly do you know your explanations of the characters psychology are what the writers actually intended? Sure, your explanations can make sense, but to me it is blurry of whether the writers intended that psychology or not.

[@zenronjt8303]

Bro I I never thought I would say this but this furry is speaking facts

[@shiroblaidd]

Worst part is that s2 is inferior to existing game canon in almost every way, but Riot wants to replace that canon with Arcane... Only part I personally liked in act 3 is Jinx becoming 'good' but that's just cause I like Jinx, I can see how that is objectively not the best thing lore-wise

[@adamturek210]

The only thing I would agree with you is the Vi and Caitlyn weirdly placed sex scene. Other than that most of your video is complaining about characters and how they didn't apparently become " their own characters " like in the game's lore . As someone who's got no knowledge of league of legends I enjoyed the show and the fact is most people who never played the game will not be bothered either.

[@flamelibra3362]

The meaning of the scene was to show their full commitment towards each other, but I do agree it seemed weirdly timed but shows don’t always show scenes in periodic order so who can’t say for sure that it was weirdly timed

[@renren47618]

As someone that hates the game but really liked the show, I found the ending pretty good, like it was clearly rushed but the only big low of it was the awkward sex scene.

[@jmanker]

@@renren47618 Real Lol players hate the game but love the show. The MVP's are those that failed no nut November because of the last episode

[@АлевтинВикторианский]

Vi kinda forgot about her sister at that moment

[@NamFoService]

I do not know much about league and even I could notice the dogsh*t pacing

[@storm7118]

You forgot an important point, there is a war on Piltover and Camille did not participate in the war, so why did they say in her story that she is the protector of Piltover and blah blah blah?

[@АлевтинВикторианский]

They kinda forgot (c)

[@coff2034]

she doesnt exist yet

[@raultamjid9725]

@@coff2034 except camille is supposed to be over 80 years old... that's her point she's sort of like the leblanc of Piltover.. she manages things behind the scenes while working with full authority. (Remember the Jhin-Camille cinematic?)

[@coff2034]

@raultamjid9725 i meant it literally. same way orianna is still a child in arcane, camille in arcane cant ever exist yet since hextech was founded only about 7 years ago from present arcane. not enough time for camille to start self augmenting.

[@Bionickpunk]

@@coff2034 Except Arcane timeline makes no sense at all. Jinx, Caitlyn, Jayce, Singed, Heimerdinger, Ekko, Orianna, Viktor, Warwick are all contemporaries, there is no story or character occuring 80 years in the past. Arcane was not meant to be canon, it was a completely different continuity until Riot saw the dollar signs.

[@steven3394]

I think it is fine the way it is. Yes, it is unfair to us lol players who follow the lore and would like to see the characters alive and well but I think they are going for the anime Fate approach where summoner's rift is just a big holy grail where legends are summoned from one moment of their life or something like that. I think characters dying is not bad at all. It gives some sort of closure to the story. I do agree that it feels a bit rushed at some parts.

[@CatdaddyM]

Agree with you 1000% And I’m not even a League player. I’m just an Arcane fan and I thought the finale ruined it.

[@rambo3636]

same here dude. Everything about season 2 just felt so alienating after the first one build up everything so nicely.

[@CatdaddyM]

@@maxholt6604 *spoilers* you pleay League, please explain how the story of Arcane fits in the lore of League? Does Jinx, Jayce, Viktor die in League? Isn’t Arcane a story of League of legends or is it a stand alone story that has nothing to do with it’s lore? That’s one. Secondly, it felt too rushed, they’re cramming things in and wasting unnecessary time (like the jail cell romance moment). It needed a 3rd season or at least more episodes. They introduced way too many new things and completely ended them way too fast like the black rose. Final battle was lackluster. Every character changing their mind without explanation was lack luster (like Jinx and VIs feelings about each other, one day they wanted to kill each other the other day they’re sisters) in the game, VI knows Jinx is an enemy yet they don’t fight to the death. Jinx even brings her a birthday gift at one point. Anyway season 2 was nice with the above mentioned exceptions

[@rambo3636]

@@maxholt6604 you just had all of these stories that kind of happened side by side and weren’t really related that much. I mean what was Mel up to the whole season. And also Jayce trying to koml viktor just felt odd. And then there is vi and jinx just somehow ending their fued which is one of the biggest problems I had with the show. In season 1 it was all about the characters relations with a good combination of exploring the arcane but everything was still in a frame where it was well explained and also the motivations od the characters and the reason for their actions was explained thoroughly. But in season 2 suddenly it was all about the arcane, nothing was explained to us anymore (like how did viktor heal the people, how could he create those weird fighting robots) snd it just seemed like they tried to push everything into 9 episodes. And also jinx‘ death was weirdly out of context, like it she and vi already seemed to have overcomed their past (again, when and how exactly did they do this) so there wasn’t really a reason for jinx to sacrifice herself. I mean even the fact that for some reason vander/warwick could still move after the viktor died/vanished doesn’t make any sense. This is just a small portion of the list of things I really didn’t like. Of course there were a lot of beautiful scenes too like the prison reunion between jinx and Isha or the family reunion or the whole perfect world ekko could have lived with powder (seeing powder happy was actually heartbreaking, as we never saw her that joyful since she was a kid in the main universe), but to be fair even here I need to ask, where this romance came from. Not that it was bad but it just felt out of context a bit, as Ekko and Powder never had a romantic relationship before. But I mean if you enjoyed it then there is no reason to change that, only because we are not satisfied with how it ended doesn’t mean you don’t get to be :)

[@diogamas]

Finally someone saying it! Imo whole season was a mess, thought the final act could be saved after ep7 but nope. That episode doesn't even make considering the following ones...

[@lastbeer]

Season 1: Powder becomes Jinx, fires a rocket and starts the revolution. We will show them all! Season 2: Jinx somehow is sad emo now and doesn't give a shit about revenge. All her evolution as Zaun hero is shown in short 30 sec videoclip with blue graffities. We have no time for it, let's get straight to glorious evolution! LOLWUT?

[@swanny272]

That's one of the main things that don't make sense. Somehow the whole topside vs undercity conflict died with Silco. Some of the remnants undercity leaders tried to commit mass murder during the burial ceremony in the earlier episodes and then the conflict was not addressed at all for the whole season. And yet when the topside interests are in danger because of Viktor, they team up like they became friends behind the scenes.

[@JP-rh9sm]

If you remove Vi and Cait the plot is still going on. Jayce and viktor will still gonna fight in the end.

[@optimisticknight]

Why do women with long hair always have to cut off their hair when they get "serious"? It's such an annoying trope

[@ME-hs7ll]

As it cools down and hype fades away I hope people realize how objectively it was rushed. Just look at the songs they went from complimentary pieces to the series and narrative to essentially speed runs through what could've been entire episodes and arcs. The first album has 11 songs and the second for season two has 22 both including the intro. I feel season 2 could've ended at the arc 2 with arc 1 and 2 being developed over rushed through with music videos. The characters take such leaps and the narrative the way its done makes you guess and fill in the blanks yourself over showing you the story itself. Like how did Caitlyn go from being shattered by her mothers death to the falling out with Vi to the first person in power in Piltover along Ambessa. They give you the checkpoints and you make the story yourself. If Powder's descend into madness was in season 2 it would've been a music video, over the gradient transformation that took place in the 2nd and 3rd arc of season 1 with the finale which *fittingly* ends with a song.

[@HypoCT]

What they did with Ekko, man. Jayce and Viktor wrapped up, Mel wrapped up, Vi and Cait finally settles, Jinx flew away in a cool airship, Singed got a happy ending, but Ekko?! After that moment with heimerdinger. Like, come oooon

[@notme3603]

For a show that treats delicate subjects so well It really felt like a punch in the gut to see 1 vi straight up abandoning her sister while she tries to kill herself and 2 that god awful ekko talk scene Bro where is the arcane that treated madness and trauma so well? That is not how you fucking talk someone out of suicide “Yo, did you know you can still do shit in life?” “Crazy bro, my bad let’s go save the world” wtf is even that??? Have these people ever seen a suicide survivor?????, that is not how shit works, for me at least it was painful to watch, i actually felt like they were working towards something then you can audible hear the writers go “ok that’s over, we can’t afford more screen time for you so just accept things work out MOVING ON we need to get this finale” Bro arcane was great in a lot of things but that scene, I feel like it’s trampling all over silco’s legacy

[@giggajames1903]

They completely lost me when they introduced the time travel and multiverse crap, the death knells of stakes and consequences. It would have been better if they were illusions created by the Arcane to break or lull their spirits, but I guess Riot kinda forgot they made the hexcore sentient and obviously evil in Season 1. Imagine if Space Viktor would go "Stop, this isn't what I wanted", he turns to Skye only for her to hold up her bloody eyes and say "libera te tutemet ex inferis".

[@Verlisify]

Yep its lazy and ends up being objectively bad storytelling 99% of the time to not create a paradox. Hextech isn't a thing without Jayce, who would die as a kid which means there's no rune for Viktor to use to make the hexcore. Also the evil angle is interesting since the arcane arbitrarily rebels and corrupts or just lets you keep using it because ??? magic system is too important to fizzle. The ending felt like nothing mattered but the multiverse makes it extra not matter.

[@maxnieukoop6765]

I liked the first few episodes, like the first 3. everything after that was just weird. I would've loved it if the war between Zaun and Piltover happened like everybody thought would happen. I wanted Caitlyn and Jinx to have a fight. Vi to team up with Jinx again to fight war leader Caitlyn, warwick to have his moment, Ekko to fight using his Z-drive, but no. Nothing happened. I didnt care about Mel's story line and feel like that should've been a different season.

[@sixxkzs242]

You're so right bro. I was so confused as to why I felt so empty after watching but this sums it up so well. I'm disappointed by the final few episodes not gonna lie.

[@ToppledTurtle834]

It wasn't complicated. It was random. Random things consistently happend since the first episode. It continued with more random things happening. Every episode seemed to be a random ministory barely connected to the rest of the story. I'm so annoyed people praise this

[@Jakob-l3v]

There is a PU in a few years

[@TobiNano]

You're right in that it's random. But it is definitely too complicated, just not complex. Arcane s1 was simple and complex. Simple > Complex > Complicated.

[@swanny272]

Yeah and what upset me the most is how the characters were handled as a result. Characters that don't know each other suddenly team up without addressing the convergence of their motives, characters behavior feels kinda incoherent with their motives and it feels like there's no character development at all. It all feels rushed and the characters feel kinda empty as a result. There was no clear direction being followed, it all seemed like it was going nowhere but we somehow got an ending out of the mess lol.

[@duxfot6998]

Tragic story between the two sister is the heart of arcane. And they decided to ruin it by making a world ending apocalypse that completely overshadow them. It is not even about having enough time, it is an artistic decision of going unnecessarily big which started out as a grounded emotional story.

[@Verlisify]

great point

[@canjier8353]

@@Verlisifyi just wanna say thank you for making this video i feel heartboken and betrayed that they dont give a fuck about the real lore and have just made arcane not only its own thing but THE NEW Canon

[@cayenneta]

its not the finale, all of season 2 is bogged with writing issues

[@Decodedvirus]

arcane s2 was written as an after thought and it shows

[@vivianarandle]

I actually cried cuz how bad it was at the end 😭😭😭

[@Leah_Newton]

Let's be honest: It would have been a better show. With a promising Season 1, we were expecting more. This...budgeted and abridged Season 2 sucks...and big names like Necrit and Moist couldn't point out the bad animations and such. Put the plot and narrative transitions aside, Arcane Season 2 DOES NOT DELIVER. No way Arcane Season 2/Arcane the Series can be a 10/10 experience. And all those paid MVs...that is a new low. I feel like those artists bid and paid Riot to put their songs into the series. My friend was right, there was no point including 9 music videos to the show unless they are PAID ADS promoting the artists! 😮 Simply they didn't do it in Season 1! (I went back to watch Season 1 just to confirm it)

[@13kasper37]

For the fun of it i had a look at what's going on in League. It explains everything. This season was what everyone expected the first one to be: a 'story'' written by suits to cross promote a dying gacha game and pimp the CV.

[@Bionickpunk]

If you factor in that their most successful skin ventures were the music related ones like KDA, it makes a lot more sense why Riot leans on the music artist to garner more attention.

[@DRExGHOST]

I’m just so sad, about everything, it’s over. I have more questions than answers. BRO TAKE ME TO THE OTHER UNIVERSE WITH EKKO AND HEIMERDINGER

[@hankhill3256]

Ishas death wasn't mentioned. JinX died for the sake of dying. It was sooo contrived.

[@adrianma2758]

No perfect endings in the real world, there is beauty in imperfection

[@hankhill3256]

@@adrianma2758 but it was so contrived sloppy writing to have her die. It was 💩. The show ripped off so many other movies and shows, it was bound to rip off a bad ending as well 😒

[@michaelbrixx716]

How was it contrived? She died to end her cycle of pain and tragedy, it’s like very Odvious why she sacrificed herself. We literally hear ambessa tell Caitlyn that one of the tenants of battle is “sacrifice”. Ishas death didn’t have to be mentioned, it was Obvious she died, and it was plain as day that jinx was in despair about it, does a show have to hold peoples hand for everything?

[@hankhill3256]

@michaelbrixx716 yeah contrived

[@michaelbrixx716]

@@hankhill3256 I’m asking you to explain how it’s contrived.

[@helenline1790]

Finally, someone telling it like it is.

[@connordavisj]

I thought the season was a total train wreck of narrative and pacing but I'm still thumbing you down for being a furry.

[@Omen_SMK]

Guess arcane gets added to the list of having an unsatisfying trash ending with AOT Kingdom Hearts Game of thrones and Better Call Saul

[@The_Rum]

Lets be honest here. There was never an outcome that will make season 2 satisfying. Its a matter of how much they can cram and how cohesive it is at the end given the massive restrictions it has. It still acceptable overall. The Riot higher-ups approved 2 seasons. And that’s it. So props to Christian, Fortiche and co for a such difficult task.

[@MagmaAdminCourtneysHusband]

Yeah man... it was super disappointing. As its own separate entity I think it works despite the pacing problems, but as someone who's a League lore fan it just feels so unsatisfying. This is the new canon according to Riot, and I really hope they go back on that and just make it a separate universe again because like WTF. So is Warwick in game just not canon anymore? They were really prepping him up to turn into the full werewolf in act 3 and I was so hyped! But then they were just like "nuh uh he got turned into Viktor's weird robot void monsters" and then he just exploded. Viktor also feels completely overpowered and just not fun, he's supposed to be a man helping others with the power of technology, when did he suddenly become an unstoppable prophet? I was really hoping that Ekko and Jayce would kick Viktor's ass at the end but they messed that up and ended up killing off so many champions (or at the very least making them go MIA). It's sad. I just wish they had been given more time to cook with the show and just stuck with stuff that kept the canon intact (doesn't have to be exact).

[@rexanael243]

As a non- LoL player, I’m curious what characters have better lore tin game than the show? I thought all the characters seemed super interesting lore wise, except maybe Maddie. That flip was whiplash

[@Ryūdōji-Reizō]

probably mordekaiser /leblanc/vlad story

[@DarthHuys]

Sevika felt like she's gonna become a new champ and a new boss of Zaun, something like a middle ground between Vander and Silco. Would love to see Viktor actually rebuild himself as a robot after his act 2's percussive maintainence and be left to exist as a background guy, the Jesus of the undercity he was planned(?) to be. Felt like Janna was going to make an appearance, but well, whatewer. Ambessa as a champion and a villain-like figure? Felt like they were going with Mel for that role, leaving the grandma to perish for Mel's character developement. Also the way she wields her magic so good with little to no practice is questionable at least. Space wizard Viktor, an actual hive mind and a genius, killing everyone just for what? Beats Viego by a long shot with this one. (Act 3 makes me think that Ruination was quite nice, actually.) The hell was this performance of Viktor killing off(?) Skye? Wasn't she the reason behind most of his actions? Where is the pacifist dude we've actually seen the entireity of the show, well, before act 3 came to existance. And what is with all the space stuff? Also why does he need an additional arm in this form - can't he regenerate like crazy and manipulate his body? Was it a compensation for his malfunctioning limbs before the transformation, a show off, or just for giggles - still a mystery. Don't they dare rework the guy and take his iconic dance from us. If this happens, League dies for me. Warwick... Could have grown an actual wolf head after the original one was shot off, I guess. A nice touch, considering that Vander died shortly after. And this list could go on, and on, and on...

[@DarthHuys]

And yes, Silco's semi-retcon and all of the Jinx's "I'm miserable, let me just kill myself" stuff. Not an illogical option, but still far from good. Could fit a bit more character developement in here, especially with all the teasing of her as a new leader of Zaun. Let her have fun, maybe bang Ekko, whatever. The turn from a chaotic Joker-like character she was in the OG lore to an anti-hero would be simple, but mind-blowing. I'd really like to say that the season 2 was decent, bearable at least. And it was, until now. It was damn good with setting up things. I just wish there was someone competent to resolve all of them

[@KamalaKackles]

I’m 51. Never been a gamer. Knew nothing about LoL. I enjoyed the show. I watched a lot of videos to gain some backstory, but won’t pick up the game. I would enjoy a season 3 or spinoffs. The visuals were awesome.

[@traumatizedcritic8679]

12:55 Caitlyn and Maddie weren’t ever serious. She was just a rebound to a terrible breakup.

[@my2randomcents]

I loved act 3 BUT i do have one problem with the writing I understand time was a constraint but Viktor's opening dialogue with Ambessa does not convey his:"I wanted to save Vander and humanity even if I become powerless" to" the doctor made me change my mind" arc seen in Act 2, but it rather comes across as"making them robots was always my intention". Which makes him always seem evil, which was not the story development the series presented specially siding with Ambessa when her warmorgering is precissely what caused the whole problem

[@morningstarvet]

My favourite comment I've read regarding this Act was how many times they've retconned the story they might as well add kermit the frog as the next villian 😭😭

[@christopherlormant8083]

how boring would it be if they just animated already existing lore from 9 years ago????? are u dumb

[@HuKuTuCH]

Why didnt jayce immediately destroy/dissasemble hexgates? He knew about Viktor’s plans after he and mel defeated one of those Viktor’s droids, he had plenty of time. Or destroying it would make too much sense? 😁

[@KabelHeinz]

Finally someone recognize it was kinda bad

[@gk479l]

The quality of writing is apparently lower than S1

[@graye2799]

I wouldn't say it sucked, but it was definitely rushed and could have used more episodes. Still, im pretty content with it and would like to see more animated projects that hopefully smooth out some of the rough of this finale and hopefully continue the stories of these characters.

[@helloitsanxiety6234]

"WHAT Went Wrong With Arcane Season 2 Finale" short answer: everything except animation.

[@playit152]

Oh okay maybe I’m out of touch or too old but I liked it. From an non-league player pov, I think the narrative was driven well. And I don’t want things to end cannon to the game because it means characters don’t have plot armor which is always a good thing. Season 2 was a little rushed sure and the second act for me was meh all over the place but I think they wrapped it up pretty nicely

[@TakRoYu]

It's a well done rush, well done but still rushed so it's potential is still wasted

[@bogdanoli]

As a player and a fan of the lore I agree 100% with the sentiments. I just hope this is a timeline is not cannon, like when will Viktor make Blitzcrank now. But as a story I still liked it and I think that people who have no idea about the lore will enjoy it more than us, and that is fine as well.

[@misspiggysdimples]

This rant😂😂 I agree with the Viktor statement though because how'd HE get the rune and how'd he access the evil in the Arcane. Like all that power only for it to turn bad no matter how pure your intentions are? And don't tell me about Jayce because Jayce got it from him

[@tristanlisandro2247]

I see many people saying that season 2 of Arcane sucked, but I think its awesome. Loved the animation and storytelling. Although, when it ended I felt sad because I was hoping for more (Coming from a non league of legends player).

[@attalys]

Coming from a complete rando normie (never played league, only Ruined King). I thought the second season was far, far too convoluted. There were too many plot lines and not enough time to close them out to satisfaction. I didn't like the introduction of a multiverse and time travel, it creates a mess and a headache with attempting to figure out what in the actual hell happened.

[@Verlisify]

yeah they made it too big to weave back together even with more episodes

[@tiltedbybox6118]

Bro why didn't Vi listen to Jinx to get out of the bridge and Vander, she literally made Jinx commit not alive.

[@gk479l]

I know, it’s ridiculous, It’s acceptable that writers want to make Jinx sacrifice herself for Vi, but failed to wrote the plot naturally😅

[@tiltedbybox6118]

@gk479l there are many hints she's alive tho. But even if she really dies, I just didn't like how they literally forced the situation. I'm fine with her sacrificing herself like Isha did, but in kid's case it didn't feel forced.

[@den19852]

You can't please everyone I guess.

[@technocat9821]

Ngl, I was expecting viktor to have planned everything, code geass style (not gonna spoil it, tho spoilers may be induced): I thought Viktor wanted to make himself into a common enemy for piltover and zaun to unite over, I'm fine with the whole time loop and echo ultimately coming in to save the day, but viktor ultimately sacrificing everything to unite his two cities would've been great

[@Verlisify]

I wanted that to be an angle but Noxus got in the way. Would have been interesting if Viktor nuked Noxus by telling Ambessa he saw her evil intent to use him and his power