What were they THINKING?? | Gulf Air Flight 072

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[@YT_philipp]

Yup, i love it, and also first reaction on this comment! I loved the video!

[@SoundCyanOffical]

I love your content green dot !

[@tommcglone2867]

Wondering if you could possibly cover Southern Airways Flight 242. Its a really interesting case and a pivotal event in how airlines operate when theres bad weather.

[@Jabarri74]

Ask a silly question, ofc we loved it, ty for making it

[@journeyforyou5600]

We all love your videos!

[@PapaJax]

Out of all the tragic aircraft disasters, this is one that just boils your blood at the incompetence.

[@Mumasarah]

Especially when you know how arrogant the cpt was in real life. 😢

[@C-Farsene_5]

@@Mumasarah and how annoyingly passive this First Officer is

[@scentsoftravelmeditation]

It wasn’t technical incompetence but hard head thinking it’s too smart for regulations

[@putinski666]

​@@scentsoftravelmeditationwhich is a form of incompetence

[@scentsoftravelmeditation]

@@putinski666 idiocy is a better word

[@Kaenguruu]

That "orbit" procedure this low above the ground sounds like something I'd be doing in Microsoft Flight Simulator when I'm messing around

[@Mretboiigr]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@GreenDotAviation]

My video editor and I had exactly the same thought

[@SpottinPlanesForLife]

Lol i guess i wasnt alone​@@GreenDotAviation

[@Jabarri74]

Maybe he thought he was flying a spitfire or an F-18?

[@Runatyr9]

I'm just starting the video now, but I do always find it insane when you hear of real pilots doing stuff that I'd barely be comfortable doing in MSFS. Sometimes doing things I wouldn't even do in flight sim at all

[@dxcim]

It's almost pitch black out and neither the sky nor the land is visible Airbus: We have an artificial horizon and an altimeter set up that lets you figure out the plane's orientation and position even in the darkest of skies Captain: Nah, watch this 360

[@MrXtachx]

IFR flying is an art and requires patience and lots of practice. Doesnt matter what kind of instruments you get. We do it with the 1970s 6 pack all the time.

[@ajwong4375]

@@marcosolo6491bruh wtf

[@Muhammed_English314]

​@@marcosolo6491 An "ideal plane" wouldn't need pilots.

[@MothaLuva]

@@MrXtachxI do it with a 1940ies 6pack

[@classicalricky]

lmao

[@Jasenf2209]

I'm still amazed over how many pilots of large jets are not able to read their own instruments.

[@slimgoodman]

They able to read their instruments the issue is high stress situation and tunnel mindset when you get in such situations. You naturally rely on your instincts more that anything although pilot training forces you to rely on instruments rather, however with any systems sometimes it fails like here.

[@dmitriyzhukov9193]

​@@slimgoodmanIf you do so then you shouldnt fly an airliner.

[@lucky_7317]

​@@dmitriyzhukov9193 it's human tendency even the best pilot can get overloaded in situation like that

[@dmitriyzhukov9193]

@@lucky_7317 This was not a difficult situation. These "pilots" were just not able to handle the aircraft.

[@rufukyduky]

Genuinely baffling how absolutely stupid some people can be, that’s impressive even. How do they pass the necessary exams to be allowed to pilot.

[@aurelienn.9789]

We don’t care whether someone uploaded a video of this crash before or after. Almost every video uploaded to this channel has similar ones on KZbin. Can we please just appreciate the incredible format and storytelling of this channel ?

[@jimin-071]

Fr these videos take ages

[@gw3485.]

Well said homie 🤙🏾

[@Nbaspam0000]

That’s my pov/ thinking also…. I mean bruh mayday covered most of these stories and did re-enactments BUT the storytelling & some details are never the same

[@The_ZeroLine]

Can we just appreciate all the people who make “can we just appreciate” xyz posts?

[@PW-zs2yx]

Yeah there that good I’m scared of flying ever again.

[@AnomymAnonym]

I cant in a million years understand how professional pilots can totally disregard the primary attitude display, this is so scary, would make me think twice if i where to take a plane somewhere... unbelievable

[@semicolon101]

Yeah fully agree, how do you ignore that warning when you are literally at landing altitude

[@Jabarri74]

Pull up pull up, I bet they were trying to silence it rather than pull up

[@dfeuer]

​@@Jabarri74 When people are under too much stress, they can't absorb audio warnings at all. There should be giant visual warnings for GPWS.

[@loopbackish]

​@@dfeuerI think it says PULL UP on the PFD but he wasn't looking at that much either!

[@tqyarchive]

​@@loopbackish iirc PULL UP on PFD only showed up on boeing planes and the a220? can't remember

[@Allen-qs2xr]

This story is unique in the sense that absolutely nothing was wrong with the aircraft.

[@aaronmdjones]

Asiana 214 was also an accident with fatalities caused by pilot error in a perfectly functional aircraft.

[@Pomelu]

Not unique at all, happens very often

[@dharnasahu2506]

Mostly pilots fault, rarely there is a problem with the aircraft

[@RubenKelevra]

That's the case for most CFIT accidents.

[@spikespeigel2712]

Most crashes are due to pilot error.

[@SgtWicket]

I’m amazed ATC wasn’t vocal about all these maneuvers. They are usually pretty protective of the airspace.

[@Jabarri74]

Big passenger jet doing low 360's over protected airpace close to airspace and they never chirped in once. I know the captains are allowed final say but seems a bit off to me as if they too are cowed by Captains

[@Boababa-fn3mr]

Typical attitude in authoritarian states

[@C-Farsene_5]

@@Jabarri74 real, this is very low-testosterone, even for a culture that prioritizes following the heads more than the rest

[@uap24]

There was no speed restriction. That says everything.

[@mirzayusufagha4541]

Pakistan atc call put irregular landing approaches both in terms of speed and altitude​@@Jabarri74

[@mycosys]

An 80 hour captain and a 400 hour co-pilot less than a year flying??? That alone is near criminal

[@norbert.kiszka]

4416 and 608.

[@mycosys]

@@norbert.kiszka in the seat on type. Which MATTERED here.

[@norbert.kiszka]

@@mycosys so what is the minimum? IMHO every pilot spends couple hours in simulator and couple ours in real plane before taking passengers.

[@mycosys]

@@norbert.kiszka dude - its the COMBINATION. the first probably 500 hours in a seat shouldnt be with someone inexperienced in the other. Certainly not an 80 hour captain with a guy who is barely over the 500 hour accident hump.

[@norbert.kiszka]

@@mycosys problem here wasn't the hours, but rather brain problem with both pilots at the same time. Captain not looking into PFD and FO not doing anything.

[@ewilloch]

No stack of swiss cheese slices ever had this many aligned holes.

[@joemother1098]

@@ewilloch the captain decided to circle around the Swiss cheese model instead of flying through it

[@Snowy-oq4ur]

Lol

[@Hadfield15]

I remember that metaphor from a previous video!

[@billalverson6168]

Ok, Hoover! 😂

[@spambot7110]

i feel like the shocking thing about this disaster is how few slices there were. if this was truly a freak alignment of holes in an otherwise robust stack of cheese slices, i'd expect to see very specific, targeted changes as a result of the accident. but this airline fully went back to the drawing board with their training program, i think you'd only do that if the number of cheese slices is fundamentally inadequate

[@gughankavitha]

If I die in a plane crash. I can rest assured that a high quality Green Dot Aviation video will be made

[@peteking8063]

😂

[@dharnasahu2506]

😂😂😂

[@theonlychild4719]

Hey, don't manifest that 😢

[@sickranchez4742]

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[@Shadow_YT267]

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[@stilllmkp]

breakdown in communication between pilots

[@RossTheNinja]

... But there was a problem

[@Elvan-x1x]

it still get me every time ahah

[@Issam-od4pg]

"this was the first sign of trouble"

[@acbgames1766]

I want an option to avoid boarding flights with D-rated crew.

[@passedtense436]

don't give them any ideas. they'll monetize that and you'll ba paying an extra $200 for the 'super safe' upgrade

[@noneete]

I feel like they should make a rule that only one of the pilots are allowed to have a d ratings

[@TIO540S1]

It reminds me: Q: What do you call the person who finishes last in his or her class in medical school? A: Doctor.

[@non-blogger]

@@passedtense436 you're 90% correct. They'll add $2000 for the extra safe option and massively increase insurance prices if you opt out.

[@jp-fk5ke]

​@@passedtense436better idea discounts for flying with these shitty captains. Like a fly at your own risk of life flight (your family can still sue).

[@hapaaviation2452]

One of the best things to do on a day off is watching a new Green Dot Aviation video!

[@Drepzzz]

so true

[@donmathew4152]

Free day today! Been binging the goat after a 1 year break 👍

[@rory4989]

Captain: I’m going to do a crash First Officer: al-Alaw it

[@C-RENITY]

Of course the "timid, meak" guy's name sounds exactly like I'll Allowy. The universe is playing tricks on us again haha

[@Snowy-oq4ur]

Nah💀💀💀

[@JankPods0201]

This is too good!

[@mahadaalvi]

No comment has made me laugh as much as this one in a while 😂

[@Muhammed_English314]

I Know this is a joke but just so that you know, العلوي doesn't sound like that at all.

[@kiomiee]

truly my favourite aviation channel. The way events are narrated is so engaging

[@GreenDotAviation]

Glad you like it!

[@JoyUnspeakable777]

@@GreenDotAviation Thanks! What a dumb disaster!!! Completely avoidable. And a perfectly functioning plane, as is rarely the case in air disasters. As always, may God’s mercy and Grace be unto the poor victims 😢😢 PS. I’ve seen this one covered by two or three other channels, but this is the first time I’m hearing about the 360 loop that they had requested over the runway! I was truly astounded by that. It just emphasized even deeper how clueless and delusional that captain truly was 🥴

[@JustMe-og2cb]

Mine too!

[@malcolmwhite6588]

@@JoyUnspeakable777 Gods Mercy and Grace didn’t intervene prevent the crash though did it

[@mitchurchin2]

I worked at Gulf Air when this happened. I can recall the absolute stunned state we were all in, told to say absolutely nothing to anyone because knee jerk reactions and loose comments serve no one. The key, as pointed out was the dynamic between the pilots and perceived seniority. A tragedy.

[@ProgamerEU]

Captain: Breaks multiple rules, Makes several mistakes, Does insane 360 low to ground orbit First Officer: sounds reasonable

[@foreverluvcars]

no.1 in Bahrain it's culture to never question your elders no matter what, if had of, upon landing he would've been shamed on upon his whole family and if it had gone worldwide he would've been executed by extreme cutluralism

[@brad363]

How can stupid pilots get in charge of an aircraft full of people like this?

[@tumslucks9781]

Low IQ coupled with an inability to adapt to the unexpected coupled with confirmation bias. The Dunning Kruger effect has propelled(!) many into the Darwin Awards of aviation!

[@8bitorgy]

Nepotism. This is why you don't fly in 3rd world nations

[@Your_Average_Rabbit]

just the documentary i needed to relax while it rains. production quality is better than anything yet. i see you tried to put in more detail on the landscape and buildings, i like it :)

[@GreenDotAviation]

Glad you appreciate these details!

[@Jacob-2796]

Chill out

[@Your_Average_Rabbit]

@@Jacob-2796 what? are you impressed by GDA or are you frustrated by the people liking my comment?

[@lachlanbaker2031]

Hard to relax with this one, it boiled my piss at how stupid the pilot and F/O were.

[@mat-hu5ys]

what i love about your videos is the attention you give to what the passengers felt / could have felt

[@GreenDotAviation]

Appreciate it 🙌

[@Kylanz63]

So true. All perspectives

[@8_7478]

I really like this too.

[@jack_2612]

always astonishing to see how incompetent some of the crews are/were. No wonder many people are still afraid of flying to this day...

[@SteveMangezvo]

agreed, as a pilot ignoring the ground proximity warning while flying at night is outright criminal

[@thejunior9497]

Seems like even some pilots have no situational awareness. He was flying low but decided to make a non stop dive anyway, like that makes any sense

[@thejunior9497]

And there is no way that he thought he was going up with the speed increasing and him pointing the nose down, but hey I’m not a pilot how can I judge

[@mycosys]

That is possibly the most horrific case of CFIT i have ever heard. All he needed to do was look at his basic flight instruments. Even for a moment

[@Jabarri74]

Even without that they were trained to go around not do some stunts at low altitude in the dark to try and get down as fast as possible

[@mycosys]

@@Jabarri74 absolutely, but if at any point he had just flown the damn plane, even up to a few seconds before, a lot of people would be alive.

[@TheSmokeofAnubis]

It's just unreal that someone can be so unprofessional in a role such as that. The amount of responsibility you have for the multiple souls on board, means that you do things _By The Book_ ... No arguments. End of meeting.

[@garrettgsf8849]

Absolutely. From all the videos here (and probably what pilots learn day in and out) it's clear that there is one rule for flying: follow the god damn procedures.

[@malcolmwhite6588]

@@garrettgsf8849 agree the trouble is though the book is not faultless and it is written by people who themselves are fallible sometimes circumstances arise with the procedures no longer work so sometimes the book itself can be the problem and it’s the pilot doing their own thing for example Chelsea Sullenberger in the Hudson had he followed the book the aircraft would’ve crashed the trick is understanding when to apply your own knowledge and that takes a huge amount of critical thinking and skill

[@craik7]

It all comes down to personality. Just a little ego can flush you down the drain.

[@TheSmokeofAnubis]

@@craik7 true, true.... I've seen it happen personally. Not an actual plane crash from an inflated ego, but definitely a metaphorical one. They're ruthless.

[@moalboris239]

That can lead you to situations where the people writing the book didn't expect something to happen that does though. So it is a balancing line of needing to keep to procedures until such a situation as your judgment says something needs to be altered. Key thing is making sure you are right that it is such a situation.

[@pixeldragon6387]

When I play flight sims, I challenge myself to instrument only sometimes. The fact that some actual pilots are unable to fly instrument only is scary as hell.

[@alicedelarge]

This channel is so addictive - I love your intro and the kind of music you use in general. Clear narration without being robotic and you can sense the passion that goes into these videos. Also you're not presenting them like an action movie, horror doc or content aimed at children (a gazillion sounds and graphics all the time) Thank you for these incredibly educational videos! PS. I'm at a point where "* whoop whoop * PULL UP" (along with "TERRAIN") is one of the mos terrifying sounds to me, I can't imagine pilots ignoring it in ANY situation...

[@GreenDotAviation]

Much appreciated 🙌 These take a long time to make but it's worth it :)

[@satina1169]

Imagine a pilot having the "Pull up" Sound as his phone alarm

[@juice_wink]

His videos are definitely very clean/smooth. The presentation is is done so well!

[@liamd5645]

Just a polite point to mention, the pilots don't intentionally ignore the GPWS alarm. They are most likely in a very stressful situation at the time and will be experiencing auditory exclusion. The brain can literally shut off the hearing receptors and they likely do not hear it all.

[@alicedelarge]

@@liamd5645 Thank you! Yes, I suppose it is as you say - from the perspective of someone who only watches these videos and doesn't fly, that alarm just seems like the most important thing that you should be hearing, you know? Of course it's always different in the moment, but if I imagine myself as a pilot, I'd try focus on it...

[@Titot182]

Your instruments - You are experiencing a somatogravic illusion Your brain - Engage Kimi Raikkonen Mode - shut up, I know what I'm doing - If in doubt, flat out! Alarms are there for a reason, but unlike your pit crew, they're telling you the truth

[@Brengars]

I literally binged all 73 videos, I was born for this moment.

[@Suborurgayhehe]

lmao

[@pyrolitemusic]

Terrific video mate. You're a master at this. I had seen another channel cover this terrible accident, but I had no understanding of the level of pilot error and incompetency involved. Thanks and keep it up

[@InkDrop.]

I remember waking up for school only to see my parents glued to the TV watching the aftermath unfold. I couldn't even fathom that something like this could happen to our country, it was so surreal. Thank you for the detailed breakdown.

[@IAMTVWorld]

As a Bahraini I appreciate the way you narrated this documentary. I was 14 years old when this incident happened.. rip all the passengers who lost their lives 😢😢

[@steewith2ees14]

Notwithstanding this tragic incident, I do not know of any other contemporary airline disasters occurring in Bahrain, nor involving any flights travelling in or outbound so (unless I need correcting regarding what I have just said) it seems that you have an excellent safety record and now also a good CRM led cockpit culture. Airline safety has improved so much due to the price paid in blood but even when I first started flying on commercial airlines in the late 1970's what was then already considered the most safe method of transport still had a risk that would be totally unacceptable even just 2 decades later, never mind now.

[@yusra2307]

Same I remember the incident I was just 9 years old and my younger sister she was 4 years old we were just small kids 👧🏻👧🏻 it was the most horrible and scariest incident that happened in Bahrain 🇧🇭 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔 RIP to all passengers who lost their lives It was very sad I feel so sad for their Families that they were waiting for their families return back from their vacation 💔😭😭💔

[@Americarunsonduncan]

Yay I have something to watch on my lunch break

[@renotwizy]

my lunch is saved with an awesome new green dot aviation video 😁thanks!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Enjoy itHope you find it interesting!

[@omarchristie3923]

I'm saving it to watch during my lunch time too 🎉

[@closedeyed]

@@omarchristie3923dinner time for me ✌️✌️✌️

[@aepjelly]

Same I'm watching this while I'm eating breakfast

[@giovanniion]

Same here

[@networkdelivery]

Bravo! Only few people talked about this flight on youtube... You are first first, who elaborated entire event in detail... Excellent !!

[@mikerodent3164]

This was horrific. Even in 2000 air transport was far safer than any other mode of transport. The terror in the cabin when, 2 minutes to touchdown, that incompetent started yanking the plane up and down so close to sea level can't be imagined.

[@mycosys]

The runway filling the left window would have been utterly terrifying

[@KyleRodgers]

Also worth noting that, in light of modern desires for optimal fuel burn and efficiency, we're continuing to wear down the amount of hand-flying time that pilots get each flight. The AP/AT combo is going to get you the most optimal path and burn. It's no surprise that, in a number of these crashes, the commonality is crews who are put in a weird situation without the hand-flying skills to handle it. Everything stacks from there.

[@Dirtyironman]

That’s a double edged sword. A lot of the videos I have watched on accidents are also contributed to VERY experienced pilots hand-flying and seemingly becoming disoriented. A situation that a pre-programmed system just wouldn’t do. AP helps a lot in avoiding human error, especially when messing up just once can have such catastrophic results. But also on the other edge of that sword, when the AP or other systems malfunction, hand-flying skills are crucial. So neither one is better than the other. But a combination of using both has the highest probability of safety.

[@KyleRodgers]

@@Dirtyironman I don't fully agree. I do agree that there are situations where an AP could have helped to avoid an accident. I would argue, however, that we are in an era where it's less of a tool to utilize, and more something that crews have become dependent on.

[@BridMhor]

You, and Mentour Pilot, are the best at this type of video. Even if I heard of the crash before you always provide extra detail. Like I learnt something new, I didn’t know the limited airspeed below 10,000ft was because of windscreen strength and bird strikes.

[@larryroyovitz7829]

Agreed. I watch all kinds of flying videos, but Green Dot and Mentour are my only subscribed channels.

[@KONAMAN100]

Agreed. Mentour edges it as we see him.

[@wewanttruth8392]

@@KONAMAN100nah not for, I like him but he waffles too much so his videos are too long. Also has too many adverts

[@miifi1825]

Yes I also like these two and also "Pilot debrief" who tells about small airplane crashes.

[@BridMhor]

@@miifi1825 I follow him too.

[@samiz3936]

Flew on Gulf Air a week after this crash. Let's just say this crash didn't give me the best feeling. I remember during the flight when we were passing over Bahrain the flight attendants walked through the cabin and shut everyone's windows down.

[@geoauthentic]

no way lol

[@samiz3936]

@geoauthentic Yes. It was weird. All of a sudden the cabin crew started passing through the cabin and were putting everyone's windows down. It was a London-Abu Dhabi flight and it was when we were flying over Bahrain that they came and did that.

[@user-gh9fo9fg5o]

That must have been nerve wrecking

[@adelaseeri768]

I'm from Bahrain, and an interesting fact that this video doesn't mention is that the reason he doesn't complete the orbit is because at that time a new bridge was being built with powerful lights to help with construction he mistook the bridge for the runway and was heading towards the bridge, I know this cause I studied aircraft maintenance engineering in Bahrain and one of our instructors was the head of the crash investigation before he became an instructor, one of the biggest reasons this accident happened was a breakdown in culture, the first officer wasn't passive out of the blue it is deeply rooted in the culture in Bahrain elders and anyone that is higher ranking or of seniority is viewed as all knowing, and all capable and not to be challenged or rebelled against, so how was the first officer supposed to challenge that? If the first officer would have breathed through his right nostril more then the left one and unequally, he would have been accused of being rebellious, he would have been fired before landing, probably tied down in the bathroom, shamed by his family, everyone that knows him and that would be the end of the line for him, complete breakdown in culture.

[@miifi1825]

So you mean that it is understandable that he rather let the captain crash the plane killing all onboard than open his mouth?

[@adelaseeri768]

@@miifi1825 no not understandable at all very messed up, the person was programmed to be like that in his environment, not understandable and messed up and very difficult to unteach when a person grew up their whole life fearing the stick of their elders and Superiors. A friend of mine was a pilot for Gulf Air, he challenged the captain he was physically shoved for his challenge and was fired upon landing this is fact and actually happened.

[@MrAndinho1]

He's free to breathe however he likes now.

[@lachlanbaker2031]

Sounds like your culture sucks and resulted in the deaths of everyone on that plane. Unbelievable. This isn’t a knock on you but Bahrain as a whole. That’s crazy.

[@jasonstanley7326]

Thanks, this makes a lot of sense. Everyone is ripping on the young guy, he doesn't even have that much experience! Makes even more sense with the cultural aspect

[@Sky_Captures]

POV: You’re bored in flight sim you start messing with the plane 😂😂

[@marshsm01]

It's finally here! Perfect Wednesday night viewing ❤

[@slowskybby]

dang its morning for me

[@sunnyfon9065]

Love your editing and narration, Green Dot Aviation. I was just thinking of this accident earlier today!

[@budwhite9591]

Green Dot Aviation and Mentor Aviation are by far the best at these videos. And Pilot Debrief. Facts, what was learned or wasn’t learned from the flight of topic, what should have been done to avoid, and still maintaining the integrity and dignity of aviation as a whole.

[@keltix4196]

I have zero knowledge about aviation but thanks to your channel (I watched most of the videos) I am learning a lot. I appreciate your hard work!

[@GreenDotAviation]

I'm glad to hear that!

[@TheMudsnake]

"PULL UP, PULL UP" That sound literally means death is imminent if you don't react immediately. How can you possibly ignore that?

[@GreenDotAviation]

That's the problem - you don't ignore it, your brain tunes it out. If there's enough going on, even serious warnings basically don't reach the level of conscious awareness.

[@magicmanarmagh3don]

Probably the same reason as some people ignore the “PULL OUT, PULL OUT” sound as well. In both cases, accidents are imminent. 😅

[@Boababa-fn3mr]

​@@magicmanarmagh3don💧

[@dmitriyzhukov9193]

​@@GreenDotAviationThen you shouldnt be in the cockpit. If you are you mustnt tune that warning off.

[@briyannaperry8521]

What physiological part of the responses aren’t you understanding? Your mind tuning out something in high stress situations isn’t something you can control. Even in distracting situations. Go search up “selective attention test”.

[@brendanward2991]

5:30 - "... a lethal cocktail." Or, perhaps, a lethal cockpit.

[@JoyUnspeakable777]

Both! 😮

[@davebarry333]

Thanks

[@KahanuErmeyas-Tulu]

A 10/10 video by green dot yet again! Edit: Just finished watching it and of course, I really enjoyed it. Definitely the best video so far on this tragically preventable incident. Would love to see you do videos on Armavia Flight 967 and Flydubai Flight 981, two very similar incidents that were both also easily preventable.

[@j.m.5744]

My biggest fear....incompetent, poorly trained pilots who have no place flying airplanes. These preventable accidents are definitely something that continues to keep me afraid to fly.

[@yungblade7]

Well said man

[@MrMysteriousDm]

Sadly now a days DEI and lack of training is rampant in the flights everywhere

[@craik7]

I don't think it was incompetence and poor training.. most probably arrogance and over-confidence on the captains side that killed them all.. that's why it's very important to only allow "sane" people to fly an aircraft.

[@georgeholloway3981]

I highly doubt that.

[@yamato6114]

@@MrMysteriousDmThe culprit is airlines not wanting to spend money to train anyone. DEI has nothing to do with it.

[@ignazratski-ratski9760]

Thanks!

[@Rayan-yw2xd]

The captain and the FO were match made in heaven

[@daonlyzneggalz7522]

"circling 3 airbus a320s high" Love this!

[@slowskybby]

I love this youtube channel, These videos are interesting, very high quality, and realistic!

[@Felicity6413]

Hey, I guessed right from your preview a while back! A year ago, I'd have been lost just seeing the tail of the plane. Now, between you and Disaster Breakdown, I'm getting good at ID'ing livery.

[@YouGotPropofol]

Having three people in the cockpit changes this dynamic. 1:1 with one senior and one junior is a setup for disaster. Especially in macho cultures. Three people in the cockpit it’s much easier for two to team up and question a pilot. This dynamic of FO afraid to say anything has happened to many times before and as a passenger I’d feel a lot more comfortable knowing there’s 3 people in the cockpit.

[@yungblade7]

I Agree but the third pilot should be more of an observer using his observation to oversee or point out small things that could be crucial instead of having controls. If need be he can fly in a drastic case aswell.

[@masoodkhan618]

Airlines are begging for aircraft manufacturers to make planes with just one pilot coz of pilot shortage and cost cutting. Imagine if they were told to keep three pilots

[@timothyg1986]

It also happened in KQ 507

[@fetchstixRHD]

Mind you, that could work in the opposite direction, where two team up against someone such that they're even less confident to say anything?

[@patrickbeaumont1552]

I agree three is a good number, same with instruments - with just two, each giving different readings how would you know which one is correct?

[@juliaatkinson4012]

These are by far the best-written aviation videos on KZbin. And I also love the pronunciation of "column".

[@ahmedrahi9775]

Captain thought he was playing Microsoft Flight Simulator Online🤣

[@Somthinglevlogger]

His content is getting better and better quality!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thanks, that's the goal!

[@Somthinglevlogger]

@@GreenDotAviation You’re achieving that goal with each vid!

[@heartfeltteaching]

I lived in Bahrain for a few years three decades ago and flew Gulf Air frequently. I had no idea of the airline's deficiencies, and feel lucky never to have been involved in an accident!

[@osireah]

gulf air is still kinda shitty

[@heartfeltteaching]

@@osireah I was 12 years old and thought it was fine. Emirates wasn’t really a thing back then. It was better than when I lived in Tokyo and flew on Northworst Airlines everywhere 😆

[@ValerieBailey-y9u]

At that time most of their senior pilots were British, ex-RAF. I was working in Saudi around that time and used to fly home to UK on leave with Gulf. I think it was safer then.

[@joeltomy9220]

Man words cant describe the happiness i get when you upload. I hate watching movies but your videos are just perfect. Your old ones and new ones are gold

[@Wawstermak]

Shocking 🤯 especially when they didn't respond to the terrain warning didn't imagine this would end with a crash 😮

[@TiptronicSS]

The captain reminds me, of myself, a bit confident, assertive and sometimes prefer my 'logic' over 'absurd' procedures. But I work in the I.T. sector, my mistakes won't kill. (And I think flying SOP's are pretty logical, I guess he didn't). He should never have been allowed to be fly.. I also get the co-pilot, he trusts the pilot will get the job done, is still 'learning' (very bad practices) and is still figuring out the SOP's in practice. He may know them, but when you are nervous, you forget things. He didn't have a "captain", he had an overconfident guy, just doing what he was always doing.. but the somatogravic illusion caught him off guard, was too low to wake up from his shocking situation and became a passenger in a 1 pilot plane. The first officer probably was still thinking it was gonna be okey.. what a tragedy..

[@pharmphresh]

This almost seemed like the captain was on a suicide mission

[@sphenoidjjj]

We can't rule that out

[@der.Schtefan]

315 knots into the airport? That's how I love to fly in MSFS into my home town KLU/LOWK ❤😂

[@ZD_818]

this guy is just too good at stroytelling amazing content

[@jaxoncaviness]

I remember when GDA was first starting, I had watched all their videos and just sat and waited for more, keep up the great work!

[@alan4yt]

When I worked in Bahrain Gulf Air, offered free flights and food as proving flights to help give staff experience. Those who did so were very frightened as it was clear the pilot had poor flying skills, passengers were crying. My flight back to London, the pilot spoke to the passengers in educated English, my adjacent passenger and others around me all said out loud thank god he's European. They started nervous laughter while relating previous previous frightening flights.

[@davidhynd4435]

I'm so grateful for the time and effort you put into producing these videos. The quality is excellent. They're informative and well researched. Thank you. You deserve every one of your subscribers. More power to you.

[@xX_Gravity_Xx]

I'm only 4 minutes in, and already, this captain is extremely dangerous. ALWAYS be willing to learn, and open criticism. I'm blown away he was even signed off on as captain to begin with.

[@AdelAlKooheji]

I am from Bahrain and I still remember this tragic incident as if it occurred yesterday. I can never forget the date 23 August 2000, I was 16 years old at that time and it was a very sad and gloomy day in Bahrain 💔

[@ahmediqbal3154]

the Production of your videos imporved so much compared to a year ago. Keep up the good work

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you, we're always trying to improve the videos 💪

[@WhiteFang103]

The scariest alarm a pilot can hear ("pull up") and no reaction ? That's literally the "you not gonna make it home ever" alarm.

[@0li07]

here fast as hell

[@TheWindWalkerX]

F/O: This is how you use the anti-ice properly! Pilot: Nah, i'd win ☠

[@sjm6963]

As harsh as it may sound this Captain and FO were no great loss to either Gulf Air or to the flight industry in general. It's unfortunate that arrogance and timidity caused the deaths of so many others. RIP.

[@Dasboot1992]

Doesn't sound harsh at all. They are 100% responsible for those poor people's death and the airlines should have been held accountable for having hired those incompetent clowns.

[@toolate9494]

Arrogance and timidity + culture.

[@Aviationlifestyle24]

Hello sir! Thank you so much for your hardwork in making this such high-quality, engaging and detailed video about this horrific crash, there was a lot of important points to learn from it! Especially about personalities and how not speaking up when required can be highly dangerous or even fatal. This video has given me the understanding of the importance to point-out and speakup when someone does something wrong (especially if the person is in higher in seniority) without being aggressive or passive. (That different coloured bar was a very good way to visualise it). Thanks once again sir for your awesome quality videos!

[@TheMudsnake]

Just sat down to eat my lunch and saw Green Dot uploaded, no better feeling

[@Itsalekss]

I love your channel, cause as much as I like the aviation world, I don’t understand everything technical and I appreciate how you explain it, professionally but still understandable

[@diracraj1]

Tight narrative that focuses on the actual incident without extraneous details. That's why I prefer this channel to almost any other on KZbin.

[@seemantadutta]

I am from India, and it is part of the culture in India too, to not question elders. So, I understand how the FO must have felt. That being said, when your job is centered around the idea of safety first, these cultural norms should not matter, and this has to be looked at from a purely professional perspective. That was the failure of Gulf Air, and I am glad they recognized this fact and took steps to remedy that. As usual, I love your videos, been a long-time follower of your channel. Your production quality keeps getting better with each upload!

[@andreasotti2730]

Could you do a video on Silk air 185? I know patreon members can suggest videos but this flight was something really fascinating in my opinion

[@chrisribal5103]

The quality of your videos keeps increasing every single time! Thanks so much! Looking forward to many many more Videos.

[@lyedavide]

The only thing more dangerous than underestimating your objective is overestimating your ability to deal with it. Golden rule: much, much better to be humbled and late than arrogant and dead. This is the primary goal in special operations training: once a plan and all possible scenarios have been confirmed by all participants, and everyone knows exactly what they must do, NEVER DEVIATE FROM THE PLAN! You will cause exactly the kind of chaos that erupted in the cockpit of this flight, with the same end result; people will get killed for absolutely no good reason. The captain not only committed suicide, he committed mass murder. RIP to all those who died in this absolutely preventable and tragic disaster. I will stop short, by the width of an angel's hair, of not including the captain to have a peaceful rest.

[@xmaddieplayzx]

Honestly out of all airplane channels green dot aviation is my favorite, the rest are kinda boring but this one the quality, the explanation and everything is just amazing and understandable

[@notdreppy]

time to watch this during midnight snack time!

[@slowskybby]

but its morning 4 me lol

[@ActuallyMori]

​@@slowskybby just turned lunch here lmao, time zones are weird

[@mrwelshaviation_024]

@@slowskybbytimezones

[@sayedalmosawi5751]

Thank you for covering this tragic flight. It was a sad time for our nation with many being personally affected by it💔🙌🏻

[@Lucifer90014]

Waited half my life for a new upload on this channel

[@fatimashafeeq6346]

I’m from Bahrain and thanks for covering this story in great detail. A horrific accident that shocked our small nation

[@someonerandom704]

I'm not even a trained pilot and my first instinct would have been to pull up during the approach and fly over the runway. That seems like basic common sense.

[@hossemadian7127]

I love it when you upload a new video. I discovered your channel 2 months ago and since I have binge watched EVERY VIDEO. This makes it more exciting when I see a new video. Plz upload more!!!

[@TiptronicSS]

Incredible graphics. Very great job, very well made docu.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you 🙏

[@ProtrixYT]

These pilots deserve a raise ! Such amazing skills - no communication, ignorance of multiple warnings, messing up simple procedures. Truly top tier pilots ! 👌

[@luxtayii3473]

I've been waiting for another Green Dot for long, I'm so excited!

[@dublinairportplanes]

This case always amazed me, They where so overwhelmed their brains stopped processing what would have being obvious. Green Dot, Your attention to detail is getting so good. The little shakes in the cabin is a nice touch.

[@cyberaviation5260]

Another Banger!! Pretty sure it will be!

[@aimhigheagle1]

Unbelievable. Pilots trained to highest safety standards can still do this. Good video.

[@AntsPlayChess]

The stupidity involved by the captain and first officer added up to 100% of the blame for the disaster. The plane had done everything correctly to tell them of their surroundings, the pilots were just not good enough to pilot the aircraft.

[@norbertkovacs6650]

Never heard of this accident before. The way it went foward with the story I was telling myself - "eh, they gonna do like 3-4 turns before they land" but it came to the "Pull Up" part at the end I had to stop the video I am still in total shock. What a disaster. How can you simply ignore certain procedures like this and not step up if you know that Captain next to you absolutely out of his mind and risks so many lifes.

[@parmaman8551]

Maybe airlines should recruit psychologists so that pilots are trained to trust their instruments more than their self-judgement?