What will Naohiro Shintani's artstyle be on return?

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@basheerc.7245
@basheerc.7245 3 жыл бұрын
I just hope Shintani doesn’t go towards the stiff and super shiny look like we seen in super. I doubt he will, can’t wait to see his future work in the franchise.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
That Gogeta picture has me a bit worried.
@ado5778
@ado5778 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonone8726 No worries, Shintani was only copying Yammoro's style for that one picture. He's not going to continue with a plastic style.
@gokusanbraya6147
@gokusanbraya6147 3 жыл бұрын
I like that style since it had more details compared to the new style
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt it
@prime7042
@prime7042 3 жыл бұрын
@@ado5778 if animated properly it would look better tho
@IJC144
@IJC144 3 жыл бұрын
I rlly cant wait so see Shintanis work In the Movie and potentially the Anime 🔥🔥🔥
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
same man!
@KON853
@KON853 3 жыл бұрын
oh if he works on the anime i will firgive super for all of its problems
@IJC144
@IJC144 3 жыл бұрын
@@KON853 Yes definitely
@RockinAllDay
@RockinAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
@@forgottenrelics1197 I REALLY don't want The Yamamoru style or anything resembling that.
@garka6135
@garka6135 3 жыл бұрын
😲
@dbz287
@dbz287 3 жыл бұрын
You should give a prompt for artists. It’d be fun to see different people’s approaches as if they were hired to do character sheets, promo art, or a certain actions! I’m an artist and love to participate in that lmao
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm interesting idea🤔
@Emanny360
@Emanny360 3 жыл бұрын
That would actually be a fun challenge 😃
@dbz287
@dbz287 3 жыл бұрын
@@Emanny360 Right?! Lol It would be fun challenge, redrawing chapter page in our style or replicating one. Also a new appreciation for the ability to follow a character sheet or prompt and not just be a rule breaker lol
@charleschase7945
@charleschase7945 3 жыл бұрын
I like this idea!
@openingdown3051
@openingdown3051 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope he does in the end. His designs were definitely a decent part of the appeal of the Broly movie. If they pick someone new, then I hope that they could create a fun new style like how Shintani did, although as you said, it seems that isn’t very likely. One way or another, I look forwards to whatever is to come.
@bobdylan1968
@bobdylan1968 3 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt they will use any other art style than the one/ones used in the broly film. Dragon ball has never looked better. And that art style allowed that level of fluidity and animation quality. It allows you to stretch the images without it looking off model. You'd never be able to make dragon ball look that good, or the animation that fantastic, if you used the art style from battle of gods for example.
@BroadcastingCN
@BroadcastingCN 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobdylan1968 and you're right Even fans doing animation with incredible style of shading
@ItsOver9000Productions
@ItsOver9000Productions 3 жыл бұрын
One thing i really appreciate about Shintanis art is that it allows the characters to be put into super interesting poses reminiscent of western comic books. Modern Dragonball/Yammamuro seems to have a very samey png type look to it and while I love that style too its cool to branch out and get images like we did on Goku day. A fusion of the two styles is my ideal look for the series moving forward.
@wormHD
@wormHD 3 жыл бұрын
I like the softer look but I also like highlights when they are done right because I think highlights look pretty nice except in super.
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah some fans don't like them at all but personally in Z whether Nakatsuru or Yamamuro they where usually fine.
@fridaynightnicktoons6885
@fridaynightnicktoons6885 3 жыл бұрын
Old 90s Pokémon did highlights as good as super did highlights BAD.
@charleschase7945
@charleschase7945 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I remember Yamamuro’s debut as supervisor starring a shiny Trunks as it was the pink haired saiyan’s debut in the anime. That is a good example of highlights done right. I wondered if they altered Trunk’s design to be of a Nike sweat jacket in the anime rather than his manga Jean jacket just to design extra highlights around him.
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
@@charleschase7945 That was Naktsuru's episode if you're referring to 120. Yamamuro's debut as an animation supervisor was 122 :)
@danielz-v4083
@danielz-v4083 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is that while highlights can looks phenomenal (Hirudegan and Jenemba movies) , many animator cannot use them. Tate, despite how great he is in terms of animation, has a very clear problem with the art , especially when it comes to the highlights and shinny details. That’s one of the main reasons most of his drawings looked so bad in Super. So to put in short: it’s really not worth putting more neat looking details if not everyone is gonna keep up with them , you know? Although I do think dbs season 2 should 100% focus more on art and fast animation like how the Buu saga and animes like JoJo do. Art is MUCH more important than fluid smooth animation for Dragonball specifically. There is a reason the repeated looped frames are so iconic and liked by most (the ones of characters changing blows ofc). It’s cooler to look (especially for kids) at a beefy well drawn dude moving ultra fast than some rounded smooth fancy animation- in the case of Dragonball.
@lucidmind9676
@lucidmind9676 2 жыл бұрын
While the CGI wasn’t bad in Super Hero, I definitely would’ve preferred the DBS Broly style. Toei would be crazy to not bring that style back whenever the anime does return. Shintani’s style really fits Dragon Ball perfectly and makes it look just like the manga design in motion
@Supernova-ew1yg
@Supernova-ew1yg 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is so underrated!; cuz I like how you talk about art and make it so entertaining and UNIQUE. 💯
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man glad you're enjoying the content!
@Supernova-ew1yg
@Supernova-ew1yg 3 жыл бұрын
@@forgottenrelics1197 Thank you for delivering this content brings a smile to my face
@Da4th4000
@Da4th4000 3 жыл бұрын
The Goku day illustrations by Shintani looks fantastic. There's definitely some influence from Maeda and the Dragon Ball manga around the Frieza saga. I hope the new movie would look like that.
@akil5695
@akil5695 3 жыл бұрын
That 5 minute intro was well animated and I loved it
@DistortedV12
@DistortedV12 3 жыл бұрын
Wait until you see recent vid
@a1abaodonaldvictorp.690
@a1abaodonaldvictorp.690 4 ай бұрын
Well, I guess the Sparking Zero cover gives us a definitive answer 😅😅😅
@Xylospring
@Xylospring 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda miss Hair animation, like when Vegeta and Goku first faced off, or when Goku shot up during the battle with Frieza on Namek.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
Flowy hair returned in Broly though.
@danielz-v4083
@danielz-v4083 3 жыл бұрын
In the manga Toyotarou kinda uses it a lot, hopefully when the anime comes back they’ll be faithful for said details
@Xylospring
@Xylospring 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielz-v4083 Same. Looks like he agrees with us. The hair is part of the Experience. That first standoff is etched into my dang brain.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielz-v4083 Yeah, I find myself appreciating any moments in the manga now, when his hair moves lol
@anton_lezama_art
@anton_lezama_art 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonone8726 not the whole movie.
@thecool_dude7490
@thecool_dude7490 3 жыл бұрын
I’m very excited to continue seeing his progress in drawing db!! Also great vid 👍👍
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Same here and thank you!
@tylerisadumb
@tylerisadumb 3 жыл бұрын
The artwork Shintani did for Goku day is incredibly evocative of the 90's anime art style.
@themanwithyoursauce2477
@themanwithyoursauce2477 3 жыл бұрын
7:04 imagine opm season 3 comes back with this art style
@danielz-v4083
@danielz-v4083 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s hard to give a single damn about the opm anime. By the time they get to the current manga content (which is literally only one arc from the end of S2 ) they’re gonna need at least 5-6 seasons. And that’s no camp at all. So yeah, fuck waiting years for decent animation. Nobody is toping S1 not because “it’s the original and best” or some shit, but cause what they did with it , the group of people who worked on it , well, it was something that only happens once. Shit was extremely crazy in the industry. I do hope and have faith that they may do a movie featuring great animators and art .
@themanwithyoursauce2477
@themanwithyoursauce2477 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielz-v4083 I don't see them ever planning a movie. I mean, who could be the villain, the evil god?. A more powerful being thats the same species as boros? A more powerful alien than boros?. Yes it's passed 3 years and no season 3 announcement. It took 4 years for season 2. So maybe they're hiring a new animation team since jc staff did a bad job?. The Manga started in 2012 and the anime in 2015, so it took 3 years. Maybe they're hiring a new animation team?( imagine it's the ones that ruined 7 deadly sins)
@shikimoristie8136
@shikimoristie8136 Жыл бұрын
6:56 "I know it wont happen but if Kubota became the character designer" Its crazy that thats exactly what happened
@glitchlord6663
@glitchlord6663 3 жыл бұрын
Shintani has this, very simplistic, but at the same time is able to give the characters good detail, and just astethicly pleasing style, Yamamuro use to be great, but his art is now too rigid looking, too plasticy, I respect Yamamuro, but Shintani is just superb at his art.
@glitchlord6663
@glitchlord6663 3 жыл бұрын
@oO{ Dawabo }Oo I Disagree, his looser, more simple style makes fight scenes easier to animate and visually pleasing to witness, his characters are visually distinct, and are able to capture their likenesses perfectly.
@glitchlord6663
@glitchlord6663 3 жыл бұрын
@oO{ Dawabo }Oo now that I've looked through the comments, you just hate shintani for no discernable reason besides "it looks cheap" which I will disagree with immensely, I'm guessing you just want Yamamuro to continue?
@Cateyes86
@Cateyes86 3 жыл бұрын
You can't put simple and detail at the same time on shintani style lol The Best part on the movie is not from shintani design
@SaperBossTv
@SaperBossTv 2 жыл бұрын
@oO{ Dawabo }Oo dragon ball is still going to have that sort of look, from I've heard their only going to do the more detailed look for badass moments, examples being you guessed it, the broly vs vegeta fight.
@gadeonmusic
@gadeonmusic 3 жыл бұрын
In this guy animates AT LEAST the important scenes of super it will bring all its glory back. Man those designs look so amazing, its something I just saw in dreams
@AzuriteRabbit
@AzuriteRabbit 3 жыл бұрын
I can't lie I am a bit sad that the rounder shapes may not be as present in the next movie since it's one of my favourites but I still like Shintanis style and overall excited to see what they'll bring to the new movies and future series
@justingabriel1765
@justingabriel1765 3 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine a whole series in his style?!? Omg ❤️
@ChronoStrife
@ChronoStrife Жыл бұрын
AI might make it possible someday.
@reecejohnston9817
@reecejohnston9817 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope shintani is taken on board for the rest of super, he really did bring a fresh start to db animation while still having it feel like classic dragon ball, I hope they use him for the next movie and the next arc in the series
@mattatron5k
@mattatron5k 3 жыл бұрын
Let's all forget Yamamuro style ever existed in super. Everybody just go wash there brains and forget that. He will be remembered as the goat in dbz. Shintani is dbz's new direction. No more plastic glossy bs.
@danielz-v4083
@danielz-v4083 3 жыл бұрын
Harsh but absolutely true. It looks almost exactly like that garbage and ugly plastic Gogeta in that one episode of Heroes. Seriously, seeing Yamamuro draw dbs Broly and Gogeta made me realize how he should never touch on the character sheets for db ever again. If shintani wants and inspirational from him, either use the Buu saga art or just get some trait from Takahashi. Yamamuro’s art is so ugly
@wutizgoin5431
@wutizgoin5431 3 жыл бұрын
I’m personally hoping for the Goku Day style. I really hope it’s not the card though because to me, that completely reverts back to yamamuro, which is what we’re trying to avoid.
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Same I really love the artstyle for Goku day, it's a perfect balance between the manga and something that is animation friendly!
@wutizgoin5431
@wutizgoin5431 3 жыл бұрын
@@forgottenrelics1197 Definitely. It’s hard to imagine a better direction for DB’s art than those designs. They’re everything I’ve wanted from the series for years now.
@user-sx4qu4dz9z
@user-sx4qu4dz9z 3 жыл бұрын
@@wutizgoin5431 fax yamamuro’s style just doesn’t feel as impactful besides the high budget moments
@flixytip4571
@flixytip4571 3 жыл бұрын
Super had the best maybe only beat by z not a huge fan of how broly looked
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
@@flixytip4571 No it didn't lol
@Kai88988
@Kai88988 3 жыл бұрын
really hope we got 15 more years of shintani’a art style even if they have to pull stories out their ass to continue it, i really hate how they wasted most of the super franchise with that shitty animation, so many good fights missed out on cause of yamamuros art style, they need to redo super with shintani
@caaaaaammy_g
@caaaaaammy_g 3 жыл бұрын
Fr. Some parts of the goku black arc looked like a flash animation on newgrounds
@danielz-v4083
@danielz-v4083 3 жыл бұрын
@@caaaaaammy_g i don’t think I’ll ever forget how disgustingly disappointing it was the very next episode after Trunks goes SSJRage. Like, despite any opinions on the form, it was a hype moment and it looked good. Forward one week and it was legit amateur looking animation with some of the worst art in the entire series 💀 I got mad ngl
@caaaaaammy_g
@caaaaaammy_g 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielz-v4083 still not as bad as when goku got angry and zamasu, it legit looked like MS Paint
@leeroy3103
@leeroy3103 3 жыл бұрын
i seriously don't get why people hate yamamuro's art style seriously
@mechajay3358
@mechajay3358 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Shintani will return. So far we haven't learned what he's been working on since DB Super Broly was released, so there's a slight chance he'll be back a Character Designer for the next movie.
@bobdylan1968
@bobdylan1968 3 жыл бұрын
It better be like the broly movie. That's the BEST dragon ball has everrrr looked. I adore the art style. And going for a more similisric and clean look, allows for MUCH better animation much easier. You don't have to stay on model nearly as much which allows you to make much much more dynamic movements. A good example of this elsewhere, is Naruto and naruto Shippuden. When the art style gets more clean and simplistic, you know the crazy good animation is coming.
@anton_lezama_art
@anton_lezama_art 3 жыл бұрын
Goku had a kid face, how was that the best DB ever looked? His muscles weren't even drawn in in some scenes 💀💀💀
@bobdylan1968
@bobdylan1968 3 жыл бұрын
@@anton_lezama_art did you watch the same movie? It was by far the best dragon ball has ever looked. Espeically in motion. The animation has never been better, the motion has never been more fluid, the characters have neverrrrr been more expressive. It's just better.
@anton_lezama_art
@anton_lezama_art 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobdylan1968 Animation wise I agree, but they look like fucking cartoon characters in some scenes. Goku barely fucking got muscle in a lot of scenes and looks like he's 17 same with Bulma lmao.
@jkf6676
@jkf6676 3 жыл бұрын
@@anton_lezama_art specially in the scene where Goku is requesting vageta to fuse. His six packs were gone.
@guillermodanielortizcabria6406
@guillermodanielortizcabria6406 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see an adaptation With the recent Art style of toriyama
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
It would
@fridaynightnicktoons6885
@fridaynightnicktoons6885 3 жыл бұрын
Toriyama is mostly retired and out of his prime. Seems rude to copy his art when the perfected z style is there
@Cay9z
@Cay9z 3 жыл бұрын
This should be the new art style, Yamamuro is over
@izzok.5850
@izzok.5850 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't say he's 'retired' cuz he's doing other stuff these days like scripts, stories lines, character designs etc...
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
@Friday Night Nictoons Toriyama did the designs for most of Super, Toyotaro and Shintani stuck to his character sheets.
@strange_thing-arra-3692
@strange_thing-arra-3692 2 жыл бұрын
That was what I was waiting for. Shintani's design with a pinch of the classic Yamamuro style. Fire 🔥
@akil5695
@akil5695 3 жыл бұрын
Yamamuro was given a chance to improve his work for almost 3 years of heroes and nothing has changed also there are many new animators who makes his current work look bad,they benched him on the broly movie and that turn out to be great for the movie so they should do the same thing leave him on heroes
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
Yamamuro's designs have gone downhill for the last 18 years and he's not getting better, he unfortunately belongs on Heroes now.
@danielz-v4083
@danielz-v4083 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonone8726 garbage deserves garbage.
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 3 жыл бұрын
If Shintani’s art-style comes back, think it should look closer to the late DragonBall to early DragonBallZ art-style.
@SlantCarson
@SlantCarson 3 жыл бұрын
oh my god this looks so good. if this art is what the franchise will look like going forward it may be due for another golden age.
@natez7554
@natez7554 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked how dbs broly went towards a new softer, simpler and more malleable look. I saw that as a huge break after the stiff jerky look and movement in the rest of super. I really hope they continue with the softer look and simpler shading.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
2:38 Those look very Minoru Maeda.
@8thchaosemerald678
@8thchaosemerald678 3 жыл бұрын
YES WOOHOO FINALLY YOU MAKE A VIDEO ON SHINTANI !!!
@milesleonhardt8240
@milesleonhardt8240 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever Shintani did with the card, I hope it never comes back. Reminds me of the plastic waxed yamamuro look that plagued the dbs anime and heroes
@HamTheMissile
@HamTheMissile 2 жыл бұрын
Shintani has a amazing style because its simple and dragon ball needs to look simple but while amazing movement
@fridaynightnicktoons6885
@fridaynightnicktoons6885 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: do a video about the background art. They’re all so different. Ball/z/gt/super/films. They’re SUCH an under talked about super important part of the animation!
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea and I agree it's underrated, I think though I might've gone over a bit of bg art in the "Dragon Ball Z-Best Looking Frames" video. Can't remember exactly though.
@fridaynightnicktoons6885
@fridaynightnicktoons6885 3 жыл бұрын
@@forgottenrelics1197 yeah but a whole video would be perfect. Think about comparing the cgi and digital backgrounds of super vs guy’s rainbow bg art in the shadow dragon arc,or the beautiful natural backgrounds of ball. Modern bg art is too plastic and sterile. Doesn’t feel real. Especially bulmas vacation home in broly
@jeweerly2319
@jeweerly2319 3 жыл бұрын
@@fridaynightnicktoons6885 nobody wants to talk about that bro
@timestamper9589
@timestamper9589 Жыл бұрын
5:50 this. this is perfect
@lefonwastaken3393
@lefonwastaken3393 3 жыл бұрын
More angular style pls. Like yuya, chikashi and shida. Hope we see more scenes by yuya and chikashi, their scenes in dbs Broly were just beautiful. Very reminiscent of dbz/gt style.
@pikapanda577
@pikapanda577 3 жыл бұрын
I hope so, I loved the shintani style
@Emanny360
@Emanny360 3 жыл бұрын
Yamamuro's artstyle in the 90s is the goat (imo his best style was in the androids arc) I wish he kept that style. I would love it if takahashi could be the character designer in the film as his style is closer to yamamuro's old style.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
The Cell and Buu arc was his best.
@bass6885
@bass6885 3 жыл бұрын
There is Gogeta art by Shintani, which I feel as if people have either forgotten about or never seen in the first place. Here it is: twitter.com/Mattsun2654/status/1230118627212267520 In fairness, this artwork didn't get much attention from the community and my only reason for thinking that it's even real is because animeajay retweeted it saying that it was. Would love to hear your thoughts.
@olishtoli6974
@olishtoli6974 3 жыл бұрын
Shintano might be my fav db style
@kinjapleb4228
@kinjapleb4228 3 жыл бұрын
I personally think the next movie should look like the Vegeta vs Broly fight, it was a perfect blend between awesome character design and fluid animation.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
@@thiccjerry5232 Well obviously it won't, Shintani's style looks nothing like Takahashi's
@brandone.5106
@brandone.5106 2 жыл бұрын
As long as they don’t go in the direction of GT or early super, I’m game.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 Жыл бұрын
Early Super was due to a rushes production schedule.
@NerdPromComics
@NerdPromComics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your content. Artist gold
@p.p3152
@p.p3152 3 жыл бұрын
I think the drawings Shintani did for Goku day was perfect you can see his DBS Broly style in there but there’s also a lot of toriyama’s Frieza/cell saga work
@ArchThaBoss
@ArchThaBoss 3 жыл бұрын
If nothing else I PRAY they use the same color palate from shintanis designs
@Standard489
@Standard489 3 жыл бұрын
I really like dbs brolys change in the art style. Hopefully it stays for future movies and the series return.
@shawn1799
@shawn1799 3 жыл бұрын
90s Animation is still the best for me.
@kanakino7110
@kanakino7110 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the art in DBS Broly. I hope they keep it for the return of Super
@jeanegardiner370
@jeanegardiner370 3 жыл бұрын
if this is the look for the series I'm getting use to it anyway
@Twinshadow345
@Twinshadow345 4 күн бұрын
They need to make shintani animate every dbz epsisode over i would definitely re-watch
@dankmagician7108
@dankmagician7108 3 жыл бұрын
Wait Shintani's art style just... went through the same evolution as the entire DB franchise
@SkyZer0
@SkyZer0 3 жыл бұрын
my new favorite channel. that along side with Anime Ajay
@JonoSSD
@JonoSSD 3 жыл бұрын
Since we got Broly, perhaps it's time we delved into other old movie villains like Cooler or Janemba.
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Part of me would like to see Cooler return, the disputes/conflict between him and Frieza could be quite interesting but overall I think they should move forward with new villains instead of reaching into the past too much.
@JonoSSD
@JonoSSD 3 жыл бұрын
​@@forgottenrelics1197 I agree, rehashing the same ideas over and over usually isn't the best way forward. It's just that some of those old movie villains are interesting and I think they deserve being fully fleshed out like Broly. Imagine what we could do with the concept of Janemba, for example, the literal sum of all evil. Dragon Ball characters are often fairly flat and having a more sadistic antagonist, who doesn't just kill but relishes in torture and violence (kinda like a dark eldar minus the bdsm because shonen) could be neat. Sure, most of DB villains say they're like that, but usually they're only interested in killing or fighting or becoming immortal. Kid Boo was the closest we got to "pure evil", but he was mindless, only focusing in destruction. Janemba has the potential to be so much more. Kinda like the devil Dabura never got to be. Or Cooler, who could be a great way of diving into Freeza's past, his family and race. We got a glimpse of that in the Broly movie and would be nice to see more. Cooler could be a prodigal son, a disgraced older brother coming back from exile. Freeza unseasy that his brother could have a claim over his forces, due to being the eldest son as well as a lot stronger when they were young. This rivalry and sense of inferiority could even retroactively explain Freeza's fear of not being the strongest when we first see him in DBZ. Heck, I think even Raditz deserves a comeback. He's a saiyan and Goku's brother, for god's sake. If the series can pull Freeza out of hell and Broly out of non canon movies, I'm sure they could squeeze some character development for our boy Raditz.
@user-sx4qu4dz9z
@user-sx4qu4dz9z 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonoSSD you was just waiting to get that off your chest huh
@justajobro1266
@justajobro1266 3 жыл бұрын
@@forgottenrelics1197 the thing is that cooler:s return would be impossible it would be unrealistic for him to be able to compete with current Goku and vegeta because if cooler was overpowered enough to compete with current Goku and vegeta king cold would have given to him the cold force plus current Goku and vegeta can compete with lord beerus so wouldn't cold have tried to make him fight beerus? Janemba is completely possible though.
@sylasexd
@sylasexd 3 жыл бұрын
Why does people likes Janemba so much? Really, why? Only thing interising about him is his abilitys.
@moro-og-739
@moro-og-739 3 жыл бұрын
I love Shintani’s art style, but I really don’t think his style carries ANY tension. That’s why I prefer Shida, Takahashi and Karasawa
@moro-og-739
@moro-og-739 3 жыл бұрын
@JespBoi I know that. I want them to do character designs, but Shida already said he wants someone younger to do character designs. That’s why I put Karasawa and Takahashi there
@joj5150
@joj5150 3 жыл бұрын
what does this even mean lmfao
@demigodstudios
@demigodstudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@joj5150 basically it’s WAY harder to draw on model with such specific details and shading. IE: The reason video game characters have so many extra zippers, belts,or designs on the character model. They only have to make it once and animate it rather than hundreds of time taking forever. The simpler art style let’s each individual artist have a lot of breathing room and let’s them add details as need.
@joj5150
@joj5150 3 жыл бұрын
@@demigodstudios no I know why Shintani is good, that's not what I was asking. Trust me, you don't need to explain that. Tf does "it doesn't carry tension" mean? That's what I'm confused about.
@demigodstudios
@demigodstudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@joj5150 Yeah same, I guess it has something to do with how serious they look all the time or something?🤨
@anton_lezama_art
@anton_lezama_art 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it's like a fusion of the DBS Broly animation and end of Super animation. That would look fire.
@tolahostia
@tolahostia 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, it looks like early Yamamuro's art style. Actually i didnt know him until Dragon Ball Super: Broly. He is a great animator with an unusual own style. Great video again!!!!
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
Shintani designs look nothing like any of Yamamuro's work.
@hawshimagical
@hawshimagical 3 жыл бұрын
my problem with shintani was he did that generic anime shading where he just does some corners at some outlines and calls it a day. its good to see him getting into a more 3 dimensional shaded look
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that approach can feel a little flat at times and left me mixed when I first saw some of the sheets, however his Goku day art was a nice balance between simplicity while still carrying depth :)
@sonicpower1750
@sonicpower1750 3 жыл бұрын
This was dope & interesting!
@Potatoras
@Potatoras 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they keep the simple style of shintani its not only animation friendly but dear god i can't take more of yamamuro's art style any longer
@annedrieck7316
@annedrieck7316 3 жыл бұрын
What if yamumoro adopt shintani style, would it be great?
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 3 жыл бұрын
3:04, I would like Shintani’s art-style to go in that direction if he returns for a DragonBall animation.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 Жыл бұрын
No, that's too modern, Yamamuro looking. 😂
@sterilebroth8933
@sterilebroth8933 3 жыл бұрын
I hope so, it reminds me of my hero with the colors.
@ashaqulalam9327
@ashaqulalam9327 Жыл бұрын
The fact is sad that Shintani didn't take the role for the movie, it wasn't bad tho. But... the CGI is nothing compared to the Super Broly's Hand Drawn animation sequnce.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 Жыл бұрын
Even if Shintani was involved, it would still be CGI. Kubota isn't the one those for it to be that way. He actually said he didn't like it. Kubota is better than Shintani anyway. The CG was just the problem
@sydneyowusu3750
@sydneyowusu3750 Жыл бұрын
​@@jasonone8726as an animator but not a character designer.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 8 ай бұрын
@@sydneyowusu3750 Shintani isn't an animator.
@TheOfficialAnimeKid
@TheOfficialAnimeKid 13 күн бұрын
The style better return in more Dragon Ball content.
@negispringfield6156
@negispringfield6156 3 жыл бұрын
It looks almost identical to Toriyama’s Cell/Boo arc designs in the manga. SIGN ME UP!!
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, his designs are closer to Toriyama earlier work, like late original DB up to the Frieza saga. Buu saga is when it started to look blocky.
@vitorinovinagre815
@vitorinovinagre815 3 жыл бұрын
I hope they keep the same style from Super Broly for the new movie and the new anime! After all for some reason they are using it in One Piece for quite a while.
@one_tricky_boi
@one_tricky_boi 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I loved his Goku Day piece in 2019. It's like Toriyama resurgent. I hope he sticked with that.
@AlphaProto
@AlphaProto 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really have anything to comment. I just wanted to say I really like this video.
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you😁
@baconsugargamer988
@baconsugargamer988 Жыл бұрын
Tbh i think the young looking goku look is pretty good
@thronosstudios
@thronosstudios 3 жыл бұрын
If he stays with what was seen in the Broly movie, nobody would complain. I do love how he blended the DBZ look with the original, more rounded DB look. That was brilliant of him. But like basically everyone here, if he were to use the sharper, blockier style from the 90s era, we would also not complain. As long as he steers way clear of the general plastic art style of DBS (with the notable few exceptions), everyone will be satisfied.
@tomiberryofficial
@tomiberryofficial 3 жыл бұрын
I really need to see yamamouros old work, but with new digital colours and a better look!
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, let him have his old style, we already have Takahashi for that.
@LOLQ9000
@LOLQ9000 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos brother keep it up!
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro much appreciated!!
@thedudecalledalan9095
@thedudecalledalan9095 3 жыл бұрын
I just love the colors They just pop
@aliddas
@aliddas 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this art style. It's something that rekindles my childhood. z
@KuraBinges
@KuraBinges 3 жыл бұрын
I think Toriyama just means they want to take what they did with DBS Broly and just expand and improve on it since the visuals for that movie were new
@yam9195
@yam9195 3 жыл бұрын
3:19 That Gogeta Blue style reminds me of Akira Toriyama's style in the 90s for The Dragon Ball Z box set manga.
@clydejoseph7880
@clydejoseph7880 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about Masahiro Shimanuki's artstyle
@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688
@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I hope Shintani over time doesn’t slowly start Being like modern Yamamuro. with unnecessary highlights,stiff Leinart and stiff artwork
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Doubtful
@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688
@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688 3 жыл бұрын
@@forgottenrelics1197 honestly I can’t wait for this new movie 🤩 especially if Naotoshi Shida Will be on it
@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688
@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688 3 жыл бұрын
And honestly another thing I would really love in this movie is that the original sound effects from Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z Resurrection F
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
@@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688 While I love Arai's original effects I'm honestly fine with the new ones :)
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
@ForgottenRelics Doesn't that new Gogeta picture have you worried, that he will head in that direction?
@bluepineapple4396
@bluepineapple4396 3 жыл бұрын
You know, everyone seems to forget that toriyama did highlights as well in some of his work, highlights can look great if done right
@melon6444
@melon6444 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope Shintani's artstyle stays for the franchise. I feel like this is the closest the characters have looked to Toriyama's classic art in a long time.
@lxfj2128
@lxfj2128 3 жыл бұрын
My only issue with shintani style is it looks to cartoonish as long as it looks sharp and less cartoonish I’m fine with it
@dbzenthusiast8152
@dbzenthusiast8152 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully he doesn’t decline in his artwork like yamamuros did. Though I have to say that poster showing all of gokus forms is giving me vibes of toriyamas frieza saga artwork. Especially with ssj blue goku in the middle
@zaiko9035
@zaiko9035 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope he returns, he's the best for Super
@Milennin
@Milennin 3 жыл бұрын
I do like the idea of a more angular style for the artwork.
@four-en-tee
@four-en-tee 3 жыл бұрын
I really prefer the two-tone coloring/lighting style, i even ended up adopting it in my own artwork about 2 years ago. I think its fine if Shintani wants to try and get a bit closer to Yamamuro's style or whatever when it comes to character shapes and stuff (personally, i prefer how Shintani draws over Yamamuro, but that's just me). However, if the plastic look returns when it comes to coloring, I'm gonna be super disappointed. I just like the more fluid art style in DBS Broly, it's very clean and it translates really well to action scenes where adding a third tone or whatever can enhance a scene.
@bananachild1936
@bananachild1936 3 жыл бұрын
Shintani's art is amazing and should be the main art style for Dragon Ball animes going forward. But I'd go batsh*t crazy if Yuya Takahashi suddenly becomes the supervising art director for the next DB movie.
@Alzaアルザ
@Alzaアルザ 3 жыл бұрын
personally, my favorite is his artstyle from the dbs broly movie.
@Adriancbos
@Adriancbos 3 жыл бұрын
The best. It’ll be the best.
@mewtical1840
@mewtical1840 3 жыл бұрын
i hope so! cuz i am tired of the other one!
@meridox6460
@meridox6460 3 жыл бұрын
SHINTANI PLEASE DON'T CHANGE IT😭
@saivishwath3773
@saivishwath3773 3 жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with artists and their art but I can definitely say Dragonball super broly had the best visuals yet. From what I understood from the video shintani was the one who worked on dbs broly.
@9VK7
@9VK7 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Gogeta drawing on the right in the l the thumbnail. Reminds of the Budokai 2 European cover which I loved. Not sure who the artist for that was.
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the European version used the original Japanese cover drawn by Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru
@9VK7
@9VK7 3 жыл бұрын
@@forgottenrelics1197 cheers mate 👍
@GeteMachine
@GeteMachine 3 жыл бұрын
I'm fine with some of the Yamamuro aspects being incorporated if to look more like the older DB movies appropriately the way Takahashi does a bit. I just don't want the overly rounded and bubbly faces that the animators had been doing, despite Shintani's sheets not doing that but I still think Shintani's designs look a bit flat on screen.
@mathisb9465
@mathisb9465 3 жыл бұрын
Shintani's latest art on the Gogeta Heroes card reminds me more of Toriyama's style from the Buu arc
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
It looks more Yamamuro than Toriyama.
@Vulpingas
@Vulpingas 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah what will do be doing they artistic art estilo
@Lota2.0t5
@Lota2.0t5 3 жыл бұрын
I very excited about the new movie
@forgottenrelics1197
@forgottenrelics1197 3 жыл бұрын
Same! Although the possibility of it being entirely 3d made me a little less enthusiastic😅
@tyson543
@tyson543 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment regarding wanting Goku's design to look older is justifiable, but makes sense in context. After initially becoming a SJG, it was noted that Goku became slimmer and younger looking
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
That's the transformation though, he's talking about base Goku.
@robintsw
@robintsw 3 жыл бұрын
Yamamuro’s art style in dbz was really good, now it’s just plastic, so I def want shintani in any project
@Cay9z
@Cay9z 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't like Yamamuros style in Dbz either, Naoki Tate in Dbz was worse.
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cay9z Are you crazy? lol
@Cay9z
@Cay9z 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonone8726 Just because its Z doesn't mean its good, You are the one crazy
@jasonone8726
@jasonone8726 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cay9z I don't think everything about Z was perfect, but Yamamuro's old style was iconic, like how do you not think the Final Flash vs Cell episode, episode 232, when Buu was hatched and DBZ movie 8-13 didn't look good?
@toastcart8211
@toastcart8211 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonone8726 movie 13 was beautiful
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