What Would Mass Deportations Mean for Freedom in America?

[@AynRandInstitute]

Ayn Rand's own words on immigration: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2i3nHt_epllY7s

[@Carmonaedddie]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@silentmajority8365]

As a US citizen I have to have a birth certificate or passport to enter another country I have t prove who I am with new federal ID to fly even within the USA but somehow its racist those crossing our border obey the law

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Out of context, and clip organized, (how progressive). Was she saying the borders should be open to the barefoot primitive barbarians that she often rejected? in 1972, she could not have perceived the invasion of barefoot barbarians that has been allowed to demographically change all of Western culture in the last decade. She died in 1982, and can not defend herself from progressive communists who use her name. Go to hell where you belong. I am going to Mises. The likes of you have not fully saturated that institution of freedom yet. Yes, I know you will delete this comment.

[@WhoIsJohnGaltt]

What’s the point of having legal process to get in if you’re not going to enforce it. Beyond that. All these people who got in should atleast be CHECKED. And people should be checked before they get in. Are you a criminal evading justice? Are you sick? That’s even without addressing the GROSS incentive system of the welfare state that attracts parasites versus people who actually want self responsibility without this help. I’d atleast check the people already here. Let the good ones stay. And stop new ones from skipping the process

[@Biologist19681]

If you had a legal process that was actually an option, you wouldn't have illegal immigration. Anyone who says that "they should just come here legally" is either disingenuous or misinformed. You say "stop new ones from skipping the process" like these immigrants WANT to come here illegally. Right now, the wait time for f-4 visas (siblings of US citizens) from Mexico is more than 100 years and growing. Although this is misleading because in reality so many people will die before they get their turn that it knocks ~25 years off. So even relatives of US citizens don't really have an option to come here legally, and non-family visas go to the end of the line. Fix the immigration process and you fix illegal immigration.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

"What’s the point of having legal process to get in if you’re not going to enforce it." These people won't consider the initial crime. They would support a bank robber keeping the money they stole because they were poor.

[@WhoIsJohnGaltt]

@@EarthSurferUSA if anything that daniel penny case shows something to the effect. that the attacker is protected by law from a defender

[@Biologist19681]

@@EarthSurferUSA that's just a horrible comparison. Bank robbers violate the rights of others. Immigrants don't violate anyone's individual rights. In fact, they're just exercising their rights. Not in any way the same.

[@jsczepan]

How did Galt's Gultch handle immigration?!

[@MariaNI-yf1bz]

Excellent content. This is also usefull to help explain the current policy in some Euro countries. Thank you

[@WolvesOfApollo]

Isn't it the Confiscation State that sustains the Welfare State and the Welfare State is quite the attraction? The immigration discussion is just yet another symptom of diminishing "freedoms." Freedom from what? The Welfare State. Addressing the Confiscation State seems more important.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

You are right sir. I have not listened to it yet, but I figured it would be a argument about immigration, and not compared well to the early immigration into "The Land of Opportunity", before we had a welfare state. I guess, with our production that was created by free people sent to communism in china (for the most part), we are the most free as the producers left,---when we support the welfare of others. Yes, the Ayn Rand institute was also taken over by progressive thinkers, just like any institute of influence in the USA. IMO, the Mises organization, is the last voice for individual liberty left in the world, but I see they have some progressive thinking writers also. Now, I will listen to this as long as I can stand, telling me how free we are by paying for the existence of others. I am quite sure, Ayn Rand would not support this institute. I may have spouted off too so before I listened to this,---but I will know if I did, probably within 5 min of the vid. I can't be talked into redistribution as a moral way to live. Doug in Michigan

[@EarthSurferUSA]

To ask the question "How are you going to do it?" is a trick. For example, I am one of the most talented machinists left in the nation. When I get a blueprint of a complicated part to make with several processes that I have to develop, I don't know exactly how I am going to do it, but I know how to get started. It is complicated, and that question is not answerable when you are just getting started, but I always get the job done. Now, if you realize for these folks at this lost institute, that every communist in the world agrees with them, then it should be a crime to associate Ayn Rand with this institute. If she were alive today, she would tear these people up, and not be associated with the institute.

[@benbayer5943]

Guess how many in the comments actually watched the podcast?: a) 50% b) 25% or c) 5% Unrelated (but same options!): what percentage are actually rage bots? 😅 😂 😅

[@RayceJacobson]

by my observations, 1% actually watched it all the thru

[@inigomontoya6075]

"... 1% actually watched it all the way thru". Fair. I'm in 4:41 and questioning how much more time I want to waste on this. So far the gentleman has pointed out, rightly, the Trump failed to address the 'how' he would deport so many, and in the same breath criticizes that 'how' that Trump did not articulate. 🤨

[@benbayer5943]

@@inigomontoya6075 I comment on each of the possibilities.

[@Carmonaedddie]

Thank you

[@g49385]

I quite like a lot of what you guys do but in this case you are not observing reality you are observing ideology.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I suggest to President Trump, that when the deportation process starts, each get a copy of the USA constitution to take with them, and run for offices in their own nation, based on the proper philosophies for man to live, that we no longer follow ourselves.

[@edbonz2]

Excellent podcast. Thank you. OFF TOPIC: PEACE FOR AMERICA AND MEDICAL INDUSTRY. MAY THE POLICE PROTECT THE CEOs OF THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY ETAL

[@Carmonaedddie]

Based

[@hellothere-hx5by]

Thank you guys for the video! The point about mass deportations not being the exclusive means to enforce immigration laws and applying the principle of banning cruel punishment to mass deportations was insightful and is unfortunately missed among many people justifying mass deportations even in the name of the rule of law.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I am willing to bet, you do not exist on your own profit. Illegal immigration is the crime you fail to recognize. But after profit makers go broke,---your next.

[@bobwhite2]

I see them no differently than people sneaking into a concert and taking your purchased seat and doing nothing about it. Yep, you would reconsider. If you didn’t, you are a fool.

[@tomburroughes9834]

If Ben and Agustina don't think the criminal law applies to illegal immigrants (who, by definition, have broken the law of the land), what do they think ought to happen to, say, those who defy and ignore tax laws? Here's a thing: many on the crazier shores of the Left are okay with those who defy citizenship laws and borders, but tend to be angry about tax evaders. On the right, it tends to be the other way around. What is ARI's stance on those who evade taxes, and do so consciously?

[@EarthSurferUSA]

What makes you think the theft of the money you earned is moral just because a government stole it? When my great grand parents moved to the "Land of Opportunity", we did not have a welfare system to pay their way. We did not have a federal income tax system. Theft,---is theft, no matter who does it, and enforced against our will with guns. I will bet you that the people who cry about tax evaders,---are either people who live off our taxes, or think it is fair that we all pay income taxes. For the people who think income taxes are justified, (not properly ratified), it would be like their home and a neighbors home got robbed, and they are mad because more was taken from their home than their neighbors home,-----------------as if there is fairness in theft.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

"What is ARI's stance on those who evade taxes, and do so consciously?" She said taxes are taken from her with force, and mentioned a gun. So I could assume she would be jealous. I know I am.

[@j00451]

Ayn Rand’s name deserves better than this video.

[@Smoke_C]

Ayn Rand would never agree with this video! Never!

[@AynRandInstitute]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2i3nHt_epllY7s

[@headfirst6227]

@@AynRandInstitute Ayn Rand has a personal interest in the topic so she is biased. Let's agree to disagree about deportation.

[@silentmajority8365]

@@AynRandInstitute All colors must obey laws Laws are not optional based on color economic status or national origin US citizens must prove who they are to travel so nobody should enter illegally Liberals would be wise to stay out of our way during deportations

[@thegroovypatriot]

​@@silentmajority8365Exactly. Equality under the law. It's the only way. Equality is not just about opportunities, but about justice as well. You will be equally held accountable.

[@hyperreal]

@@spectrepar2458He doesn’t

[@igorm6944]

1/20 can’t come soon enough

[@dustintownsend3625]

Sorry it has to happen and it's going to happen

[@Go_for_it652]

Please go and apply for cirizenship .

[@yotamgilad600]

Will the Trump administration be an upgrade to the Deportation-Industrial-Complex?

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Deportation-Industrial-Complex? If the color of the sky is blue in your world, I would love to see an explanation of that. :)

[@nicoleweissman4953]

Listen to Ayn rands interview where she describes Islam for what it is: the ultimate danger

[@EarthSurferUSA]

enabled by communism.

[@djgroopz4952]

Does the word "illegal" in illegal immigration mean anything? Are there any countries that actively encourage illegal immigration?

[@Biologist19681]

The US encourages illegal immigration by making immigration illegal.

[@BARRIE-Chgo]

I lam pro immigrant! - non terrorist

[@RichardWilsonGrigory]

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[@blueskyscubanut]

The US citizens might start an uprising and that would be most dangerous for those who came here criminally.

[@silentmajority8365]

Deportations are coming Liberals need to get out of the way

[@thegroovypatriot]

Exactly. We need basic order so we don't get a completely failed state here.

[@hyperreal]

@@thegroovypatriota failed state? Jfc you people are truly detached from reality

[@LSebastien]

These two are so focused on protecting the freedom of criminals that the word 'illegal' doesn't mean anything to them anymore.

[@igorm6944]

Sure

[@radianttexan]

I am soo disappointed in this video: as I am a fan of Ayn Rand! So surprising! Deporting illegal immigrants is not in any way a threat to freedom! Have a great day!

[@Carmonaedddie]

This one is interesting. I think a lot of pro immigrant groups are against borders, that reads to me that they’re for freedom of movement and enterprise. So if there is a productive being caught up in the storm it would be an act agains freedom. I recognize that they tried to influence future elections, and many new migrants have committed crimes. The attention on this issue is what I hope will jolt congress into action. Happy to discuss!

[@Kalahridudex]

Well then you didnt understand her work. P.S. she started out as an illegal.

[@Carmonaedddie]

She overstayed a visa from Russia ^_^

[@Carmonaedddie]

Thankfully so

[@jm76vd]

They been co op-ed by the Globalist

[@Nancy-k4h]

You're so confused.

[@MariaNI-yf1bz]

🤡

[@hyperreal]

I think you are.

[@headfirst6227]

So Trump is deliberately vague about the details of the plan. Why would anyone be surprised? It's a huge effort involving millions of people. Lower level administrators would naturally cover those issues.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

To tackle any complicated task for the first time, there can not be a solid, defined plan from stat to finish. Changes along the way will have to be made, to reach the light at the end of that dark, (and progressive booby trapped) tunnel.

[@dannnyjos]

"Human beings being herded as animals". But they are animals!

[@dannnyjos]

@@spectrepar2458 . As opposed to me. Don't know about you. 😅

[@silentmajority8365]

@@spectrepar2458 They act like herds of animals They have no respect for any of our laws They offer nothing

[@silentmajority8365]

@@MarkV-j5j You are

[@hyperreal]

Wrong. Humans have the ability to reason, animals do not.

[@dannnyjos]

@@hyperrealThanks for proving my point 😅