Liberalism Has Failed: A Vision for a Better UK | William Clouston x Peter McCormack

[@crowbar9566]

Faith, Flag, Family. That’s exactly what this country needs. I’m sold on that alone.

[@davidbettney785]

Join them and start the common sense fight back

[@futures2247]

How sad

[@hammer6198]

Yep! absolutely 🎉

[@shinyvolcarona8489]

Huge thanks for having this guy on. Never heard of him or his party before, but he is really persuasive and common sense. It's nice to hear from a left-wing party that isn't woke and insane

[@davidbettney785]

I joined the SDP when I saw that their leader was a genuine man, with a long term plan.

[@brandon_youtube]

Just shows how media belongs to the uniparty by not covering the options available to the electorate

[@JoeStewart-Paul]

​@@davidbettney785 I've joined 2 days ago

[@hughesy606]

I'm a proud SDP card-carrier and have been for a few years. Their policies just make sense. Good to see William getting on the podcast train to bring awareness to the party.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

As far as i can see it, "left v Right" doesnt exist anymore. Its "globalist v traditionalist"

[@StephenSeabird]

You've nailed it there.

[@davidbettney785]

Yip...Lib/Lab/Con/Green are globalist "WEF" and the SDP & Reform and traditionalists but left and right on economics

[@Лазар-о3у]

Definitely mate, bang on

[@Wackaz]

Peter deserves MASSIVE kudos for having Clouston and Galloway on. It is so refreshing to see. He is intelligent, open-minded and brave, with the balls to give these guys the voice they deserve and need to have. More people need to listen to Clouston and Galloway, they're both tapping into a truth about this country that no other politician or public figure is doing. Thank you for giving them a platform, Peter! You are a hero.

[@PeterMcCormackShow]

No problem buddy

[@ryanstark2350]

The problem is that we are being given a choice of one neo liberal party against another. Then insane leftist ideology on the side. None of this is any good.

[@lukebuchanan-hodgman837]

Far and away the most learned and erudite party leader in the UK. Regardless of one’s political persuasion, there is no denying that Clouston is completely over every major policy issue that the general public care about. Great guest.

[@benedictcowell6547]

Rubbish. You have not read widely or in depth. You comment is rubbish

[@ianbarnes8593]

I first heard Clouston talking in the run up to the 2024 election. I like what he says and his attitude towards government and the issues facing the country. It’s a tragedy that he and his party don’t get wider coverage in the media.

[@davidbettney785]

They will as soon as more like minded people join ;)

[@mmk749]

Hello there from Germany. I must say I was pleasently surprised by the arguments of this gentleman. He reminded me a lot of the last competent Social Democratic chancellor we had over here, Helmut Schmidt.

[@ruaraidhmorrison5879]

Brilliant podcast. Im a trad lefty, totally at a loss at what party resonates with me the most. Ive not agreed with someone so much, its such a shame reform are going to be the populist party at the next election because they are a shambles and Clouston is a mile ahead of Reform intellectually. SDP have just found themselves someone keen to become a member - im away to find out more aout them.

[@elecumbelly]

politically homeless here.. and ditto....

[@StephenSeabird]

Same here!

[@davidbettney785]

Come on in...The water's lovely

[@davidbettney785]

@@StephenSeabird Join and build the change that you want to see

[@davidbettney785]

@@elecumbelly The SDP is a quality home...Small but perfectly formed...Just needs more likeminded people to join ;)

[@minotaur878]

THIS is the leader Britain truly needs. Right wing on social issues, social market on economic issues. Perfect in terms of what Britain needs to reindustrialise and start rebuilding the family unit, reduce crime, stop mass immigration, and have any chance of surviving as a country in to the future.

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

The more people see you as politically eclectic, the more they will see you as an individual. Sadly, before I became interested in politics, seeing people as individuals was the default. I guess that the nature of it…

[@allisterwhitehead]

it's called socialist on economic issues. Not "Social market" but I agree with your sentiment. Peter Hitchens calls it "antiquated, steam powered trotskyism, I call it common sense. There are no conservative or socialist policies, just good or bad.

[@timfallon8226]

​@@allisterwhitehead Peter loves the smell of his own farts.

[@timfallon8226]

​@Psybx-h9f People perpetually voting Tory or Labour is the problem. Why people vote for this dross is beyond me, at least don't vote rather than backing either of the two bum cheeks.

[@emmab2136-o3v]

@@Psybx-h9f This is exactly what the two main parties want you to believe. We are locked into our current electoral system, so voting for any outsider party is a wasted vote. The public needs to put pressure on the government to abandon FPTP, just like they did in Australia and New Zealand.

[@gman509]

Life long conservative "only 27" But this man has peaked my interest. Thank you so much for uplifting the voices of those who dont have one.

[@davidbettney785]

I looked at the SDP and joined...We probably have to be the change that we want to see ;)

[@benedictcowell6547]

The last of the Summer Whine. Have you anything to Say worth saying or listening to? Liberalism does require a certain level of quality of thought, it needs a synoptic endeavour to understand, not just attitudes and whining at your own ineffable mediocrity. The menace of mediocrity. The English are mentally lay and badly educated You are probably, You have a voice but you have nothing to say clearly Nothing worth hearing

[@terranaxiomuk]

Piqued mate. Not trying to be clever. It's too good a word to get wrong 😂.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

​@@terranaxiomukin fairness, I suppose he could use "peaked" in the same way?

[@joshmann7587]

'Peaked' is a completely acceptable word to use in the manner and context... .

[@StephenSeabird]

This man is too nice, too socially aware, and too un-egotistic for the media to take notice. What he needs is support. I love the opening sentences about the other political outllooks that have become the only mainstream taken notice of.

[@davidbettney785]

Join and help that change ;)

[@braithwaiteshaulage]

Fantastic interview, never heard of this guy before but he’s exactly the type of politician I’ve been looking for

[@BESTGINGEREU]

Great podcast! What a world we would live in with him as our leader.

[@davidbettney785]

Join the SDP and make it happen ;)

[@Matick-]

Whether you're left or right, populist parties need to be voted for in the next election. If youre on the left, vote SDP and if you're on the right vote Reform.

[@davidbettney785]

100%

[@SirQuixoteofLaMancha]

My thoughts exactly.

[@MrDodgedollar]

I isn’t about Left and Right to me; Its about setting policy which is sensible, rational and proactive . William explains why we can’t control and Execute policy without being out of the EU- 🙄 Duh.. He explains about the incentives for economic immigration and how that will ruin our state finances and how to get rid off aliens and upend the incentives and solve the problem.. and also why we need State owned utilities- This Right/Left narrative and definition is lost in the wind in my opinion

[@TREVORALLMAN]

@@MrDodgedollar On the subject of the European Union (and its predecessors) which you focus on, opposition to the concept of a union of European capitalist states has historically always been a left-wing idea, with even Lenin warning against such an organisation as long ago as 1915. Those on the right opposing the union of European capitalist states concept came much later.

[@Oak_Knight]

The SDP are much stronger on immigration than Reform at the moment. However, I suspect the left/right question is less important than where the SDP are standing. If they are standing in your constituency (and have a good chance to win), vote SDP. If not, vote Reform.

[@Greenmanfromspace]

This guy is a revelation 😮

[@emmab2136-o3v]

Finally, a politician for the grown-ups! A man worth listening to.

[@joenelson4235]

Makes total sense. They'll never let you anywhere near power!

[@davidbeeley163]

I get it now, the failure of 'liberalism' in all it's areas. I'm joining the SDP and reading John Grey. Thank you very much 👌

[@davidbettney785]

Brilliant...Members joining for the right reasons...Thank you :)

[@PalaceofPlacentia]

nice waste of a vote there you will end up with starmer again

[@brandon_youtube]

Same

[@BargainButcher]

Peter, as a former Labour member I went to UKIP for the referendum campaign. I have been unable to support Labour since the WMD in Iraq farce that saw many UK military personnel suffer the consequences of that event. Coming form the defence arena myself, I called time on Labour. Now aligned to the SDP and I appreciate that your channel may not understand the issues that the left has, equally to the right and I welcome all sides of the political journey as it is from other points of view can I learn the issues that they are enduring.

[@PeterMcCormackShow]

I don't but I am here to learn.

[@jonnyharris55]

The solution to this madness !!

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Liberalism both Progressive and Classical has been an acid on our civilisation.

[@benedictcowell6547]

Rubbish, You write utter bloody rubbish. You clearly are badly educated, ignorant ,Ill informed mediocre., A bloody cretin in fact. You comment is utter rubbish. By its very nature Civilisations have to be liberal otherwise they fall. Progress is impossible without liberalism. I studied the History of Ideas and I know, I know get it Know you are wrong.

[@beginsitswright]

Yep, 100% agree with that.

[@viggolito]

And you like Starmers socialism? xD both Starmer and that Khan-guy are members of the Fabian Society are they not? UK is NOT Liberal, far from it. You have a communist federal bank and a government who knows nothing about liberalism whatsoever.

[@ryanjones7921]

Does the former ,manifest ,into the latter I wonder ?

[@Grimbee117]

I consider myself centre-right, however this guy is fantastic and I thoroughly enjoyed listening to him.

[@davidbettney785]

I'm ex UKIP, and I joined the SDP, as they have got things spot on...Just need more people to join, and then have a voice to push real ideas forward ;)

[@EnquiringMinds-vx8gb]

@@davidbettney785 Yes join the party that will never be in power and is nowhere in the poles.

[@Alastairmellon]

Brilliant interview - William is so smart

[@FraserBailey-jm5yz]

I've been following William Coulston for a while now. He speaks so much sense, which is a massive contrast to more or less all other politicians. But rightt now, Reform is the only option in terms of momentum and polling. I think William and the SDP need to do a deal with them.

[@derek3535]

The establishment will have none of this.

[@Wackaz]

This guy, alongside Galloway, is the real deal, and alongside Galloway, is the only politician in Britain genuinely intelligent and virtuous, seeking a better country for us all. It is just such a shame he has never been able to get the SDP off the ground. I genuinely believe both Clouston and the SDP would fundamentally change this country for the better. We would be in a far better world with more Cloustons and Galloways in charge. Thank you so much for interviewing them, Peter. These are some of the best British interviews on the internet, true gems.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

He is still very Civic Nationalism and Classical Liberal unfortunately. More containment for White people.

[@shaunhalliwell7544]

There can't be any Surrender of a single British Territory! Be it Northern Ireland, Falkland or Chagos Islands. Not a single inch. Ulster is British and shares a Border with the ROI. This creates a open Backdoor into UK. The entire British Isles (Mainland 🇬🇧 and Ireland 🇮🇪 ) Must protect the interests and integrity of its Citizens. They must reject Globalist Subversion in every way. We must protect the vunerable from wicked Perversion and Economic Blackmail. e.g No Jib, no Job. No Digital ID, Lockout from Society. We must maintain our Bodily Autonomy (Lifespan), Humanitarian International Law, Civil Liberties 🗽 and Self Determination, protected by Justice ⚖️ That is fully Accountable. No surrender to Luciferian Agenda's. Christ, not man, is King! Long live Liberty 🗽.

[@davidbettney785]

The SDP only re-launched about 5 years ago (it was in mothballs) William is building nicely

[@TREVORALLMAN]

@@shaunhalliwell7544 😄 😆 🤓

[@peterweston1356]

Sadly as the most principled and broadly intelligent leader of any party there is so little support for the SDP in the country. I really don’t understands it. Reading their policies it seems to me the SDP seem to actually represent a high proportion of the population of defecting tories who have gone to the Lib Dem’s and even reform.I suspect many folk who support these two parties haven’t looked at the SDPs policies. Indeed there are many in Labour who would benefit at looking at the SDP

[@davidbettney785]

Agreed

[@elizabethmackenzie5730]

They have a low profile because the MSM are puffing the Reform Party instead. That is because Reform have vowed to destroy the Conservative Party. When they've done that it will be business as usual and Reform will be attacked instead.

[@233Hicks]

Those on the economic right are terrified of considering something other than Thatcherism and still think that trickle down economics will work and long since dead institutions are recoverable. Those on the cultural right are terrified of the heresy of not being a full throated "classical liberal" and/or upsetting the memory of institutions that are rotting from the inside, thinking that they can go back to pre-1945 style. Either that or they're too busy lusting over whatever the US is doing. Those on the economic left are too deep in the ideology, or too envious to entertain an alternative to Marxism and those on the cultural left, want to push things ever further in the direction they desire. News, media and institutions are all pushing people out from the centre to the fringes, bit by bit. A generally centrist - bit more to the right culturally, bit more to the left economically, party that recognises that the institutions are rotten is not allowed to gain traction. It upsets too much that is already established. It's at the point where an almost boring? and quietly stable alternative is too radical. The system exists to perpetuate itself, it's very comfortable and profitable for those already in it that don't rock the boat. Changing that would be double-plus ungood.

[@peterweston1356]

@ lots to reflect on in that, thanks.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

A new channel for me to sub to. Love William Clouston.

[@PeterMcCormackShow]

Thanks for subbing

[@Wackaz]

I loved the way he openly called himself and the SDP "Trad Left" at the start - that is so based. Massive kudos to Clouston, both him and Galloway are the heroes of the true British left.

[@SteviePeters-x3u]

not galloway he wants to import muslims to own the zionists

[@TREVORALLMAN]

@@SteviePeters-x3u 🤡

[@eoiny]

Very impressed by this interview! He seems far more informed and well rounded than Reform. I think more people are closer to the SDP / trad left than Reform and their economic offering, namely refined neoliberalism.

[@davidbettney785]

Just needs thinkers to join it, and it will grow in the right direction

[@davidholloway1776]

I rather like and respect William. If he had equal exposure in political debates and policy statements, the SDP would gain huge traction.

[@vanman266]

Very good guest 👌

[@ironmikeUK]

I’d encourage anyone to follow and vote SDP. Joined a few years ago. 👍🇬🇧👏

[@TimGarner-u7s]

best of luck. another party moving in the right direction

[@ChaseKeller]

new fan of william!

[@davidbettney785]

Somebody worthy or building a grass roots party to be a major plyer in 10 years...Join and help the journey

[@tomjohn5532]

I wish I could like this a million times! William is encapsulating the public viewpoint

[@davidbettney785]

You could join the SDP :)

[@shelleyscloud3651]

Nobody will thank me for this but SDP and Reform need to come together. Reform need to adopt more of the SDP's policy positions (centre left but realistic economics and a far more robust position on immigration) but also their fully worked out, in depth and serious headed policy development whereas SDP would benefit from Reform's profile. Mutual benefit for the national interest. For me that would be perfect, though i doubt NIge's ego could take it, nor that he could be trusted. But i can hope....

[@davidbettney785]

Agreed...But Reform is Farage, and Farage is old school Tory, and loves Thatcherite economics :(

[@masternapper69]

Funny you should say that, ive joined both partys. The SDP as they align with my values and Reform as they have the only chance of being heard.

[@SirQuixoteofLaMancha]

I would far rather see Reform replacing the conservatives and SDP replacing labour so we can totally get rid of the two parties that have destroyed this country.

[@SteviePeters-x3u]

@@davidbettney785well he wants to nationalise stuff lol and we do need to get rid of the paper shufflers

[@baltasarnoreno5973]

Very little chance of this happening. Reform are all about Thatcherite free market economics. The SDP are not, and it is clear that they see Thatcherism as the grand destructor of the British industrial base and the British working class.

[@timfallon8226]

I like most of what he says but British citizenship should be stripped from all the undesirables.

[@davidbettney785]

As a SDP member I agree

[@DC3Refom]

i think it should be 10 year probation and if you commit any crime your citzenship is revoke and your kicked out

[@ReginaldArthurWolfe]

FINALLY!

[@davidbettney785]

A real party to get behind and build with

[@michaelcarbery9520]

This SDP party seems to be what labour would have become under someone like John Smith. A left leaning party? I never wanted a far left party or a Thatcherite government. I was disenfranchised when Bliar became leader. I was fooled into thinking he was right leaning but as David Starkey pointed out Blair paved the way for none elected bodies to have the authority to regulate judge and sentence. This subjugated any incoming government, our sovereignty had evaporated whether we brexited or not. The EU, as is the WHO, UN, WEF, the IMF are all unelected powers that we are subject to. Blair like obama are authoritarians paving the way for further extremes. We need to get rid of the quangos and international unelected bodies. I am not opposed to re-nationalising the obvious monopolies such as energy, water and rail. And I follow Amy Gallagher on NCF seems eminently suitable to make sensible governmental decisions. So, SDP, a further green shoot of hope!

[@davidbettney785]

How you join and help the green shoot blossom :)

[@BackToSchool-e6e]

Met him and his team at the battle of ideas he’s lovely

[@TheWorldofMomus]

Brilliant conversation. Always find listening to Clouston interesting. Lots to think about.

[@krcalder]

A knowledge of history is very illuminating and helps us understand the situation we find ourselves in today. In the 1930s, there was a widespread belief that capitalism had failed, and people were looking to alternatives like fascism and communism. This is end stage liberalism. Before the new liberal order (neoliberalism) there was an old liberal order. We stepped onto an old path that still leads to the same place. 1920s/2000s - neoclassical economics, high inequality, high banker pay, low regulation, low taxes for the wealthy, robber barons (CEOs), reckless bankers, globalisation phase 1929/2008 - Wall Street crash 1930s/2010s - Global recession, currency wars, trade wars, austerity, rising nationalism and extremism 1940s - World war. We forgot we had been down that path before. Everything is progressing nicely and we are approaching the final destination. This is what it's supposed to be like. Right wing populist leaders are what we should be expecting at this stage and it keeps on getting worse. I remember now, it was Keynesian capitalism that won the battle of ideas against Russian Communism. These liberal phases never end well. It sounds so good, but ends so badly. WWIII next stop. The newly developed mythology about liberalism wasn’t based on past experience. This is what it’s like. Everything is falling apart at the seams and we are descending into chaos. This is end stage liberalism. WWIII is the next stop. The assumption - The problems were in the ideology The reality - The problems were in the economics. They formed the Mont Pelerin Society in 1947 to produce a new liberalism (neoliberalism) that learnt from past mistakes. As time moved on, they gradually forgot about the old problems and produced something that was just cosmetically different. As it was fundamentally the same, they could underpin it with the same economics, neoclassical economics, which had the same old problems it’s always had.

[@davidbettney785]

Good points...Join the SDP and stop the cycle happening :)

[@thebeetreesknees]

Great podcast. I nearly voted SDP at the last election but went with Reform for pragmatic reasons.The SDP, sadly, won’t have much of an electoral impact as so few people have heard of them. It would be great if there could be some sort of economic agreement found between the two and they could merge. The future of the country is a bit more important than purism right now imo.

[@baltasarnoreno5973]

A merger is very unlikely as the two parties pursue completely different economic models. Reform are largely unreconstructed free market Thatcherites. The SDP sees the Thatcherite free market model as the destroyer of the country's industrial base, its industrual regions and the working class.

[@winstonsmith8923]

Absolutely brilliant. This man needs to be PM

[@SiTheSly]

This was a great interview as I knew of the SDP but did not really know what their polices were. I like them. Thanks.

[@BreakBeatStu]

Great pod, great guest. Very interesting to hear his points.

[@The-Midnight-Crow]

I am behind Reform as I think are our best hope of deconstructing the current system and saving our culture but I had heard good things about this guy and I can see why. Thoughtful, considered and principled.

[@stewartlee3268]

I'd vote for this guy, nothing but sense.

[@MrDodgedollar]

You have got my vote!

[@davidbettney785]

I stood for them at the GE in Doncaster and came 3rd...We just need more sensible people joining to build momentum

[@MrDodgedollar]

@@davidbettney785 absolutely .. I have never been fully happy with any party ever and have been disappointed with those I voted for but I seem to agree with William entirely and am very impressed!

[@davidbettney785]

@@MrDodgedollar We must build it, and they will come...And all that :)

[@pwcfuster]

Excellent interview.

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

@PeterMcCormackShow On the question of "Mass Deportations" you need to have the right framing: 'What is needed to give Demographic & Cultural Security to Native Britons of the UK/Isles?" School student body demographic reporting have the children of English families becoming a minority in the English school system in around 10 years. By the trends of the official voluntarily provided census figures, along with official immigration ones since, the English nation will be a minority in their homeland in a mere few decades & all Britons (in the Isles not just the UK) will be some short years after that, & who knows what the reality on the ground means for how much sooner crossing each of these demographic thresholds will occur. These non proposed, demographic & cultural policies of increasingly marginalising & minoritising Native Britons, that were never openly proposed or voted for, but in fact voted against have been a disaster & need to be stopped & reversed. Still no mention of this on tv, or most of the supposedly independent & dissident online media, the omerta remains unbroken & the slow walk ethnic cleansing into dissolution continues. We want, have appealed for & are entitled to demographic & cultural security in our homeland from our institutions who are denying us it. Why is giving native Britons of the UK demographic & cultural security so offensive to all these people? & why do they feel so entitled to deny people that when clearly haven't the right? It IS an existential issue & we are rapidly approaching a point when self defence calculus applies because absent robust action national peoples will have been ethnically cleansed from most of their homeland under colour of law.

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

& regardless whether you say 'no mass deportations', then you have to start by distinguishing people with majority native heritage, those with minority heritage & those with none; once that is done, anyone in the last category definitionally qualifies for citizenship elsewhere & pressure has to brought to bear to have that recognised & then pushing that back to leave to remain status except where people have truly earned being honourary tribal members. You have to then be extremely thorough & ruthless about progressively stripping non natural benefits for any law breaker & not wring hands when that logically leads to a deportation order & just carry it out. We have a huge diaspora & just having a system that recognises them as having natural rights here in their homeland & it being run rationally so they can thrive & plan long term, means many will return & the demographic issue will fix itself.

[@TheMushybees]

Agree that the so-called 'privatisation' of natural monopolies has been atrocious, but then when they were run by the state they were also terrible. The main reason 'privatisation' failed is because private companies were enabled to privatise profits and socialise losses, we got the worst of both worlds.

[@MetePurphy]

Great podcast. I've hear William on a few other podcasts and he communicates brilliantly. If only the masses could watch/listen to this they would be all on board.

[@krcalder]

I first voted when Margaret Thatcher came to power. I have lost all hope in our two main parties. What the SDP are offering would give me someone to vote for.

[@elecumbelly]

holy shit ! i dont think i disagreed with ANY of that.. If William batters twitter as much as Rupert does he'll smash it Im sure... Im off to throw their manifesto into chat gpt for an interrogation ... PS. the worst thing to happen sociao-economically in my lifetime was the selling off of the council housing stock.. Was a absolute disgrace.!

[@davidbettney785]

Rarely does anybody find a party that they 100% agree with, but you are definitely SDP...Come on in...The water's lovely

[@nzreggae2534]

European people endlessly discuss the medium of exchange in cryptic financial jargon. Chinese prioritise producing physical goods. Which is the real definition of wealth.

[@Alexander-xq1gr]

Seems like a really decent bloke. Very glad I saw this. Well done Peter for creating the opportunity.

[@griefwnl7641]

He has covered all the real problems the uk faces with actual solutions. I think I am converted.

[@SujitMittra-j8q]

Informative In Depth Discussion. Thank you!

[@oradcliffe]

Great to see so many different political views on your podcast. There are lots of choices out there away from the old guard Labour and Conservative. It would be great to see you go out of the studio and interview business leaders and working people in your local area.

[@lulusbackintown1478]

I do like William Clouston but we so rarely hear about the soc/dems I forget they are there. I agree it is vital that thd utilities in this country are under British control. Whether that is government or some other entity I don't know. Maybe the first step would be to not allow companies to pay dividends if they are carrying massive debt.

[@davidbettney785]

No doubt that if more join the SDP then William will have a louder voice

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

I’m one of the 4 million that isn’t working yet not on benefits. I’d rather work but child care is too expensive. My husband & I would be out of pocket with twins.

[@elizabethmackenzie5730]

Looking after your own children, teaching them, filling them with confidence, is worth more than any job.

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

@ Indeed, I do enjoy it. In fact, I wish I had had 6 of them. My only issue is that everyone else is at work! A generation ago stay at home mums would meet up, have the same time tables etc. During the day nobody’s at home though ! Perhaps I’m in the wrong neighbourhood

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

@ To be honest, I still prefer being at home with my two ;)

[@JoeStewart-Paul]

I've joined the SDP this week

[@chester6343]

I think this is where I sit on things

[@davidbettney785]

Then join and give the SDP a bigger voice :)

[@jakesanty5562]

Very interesting listen, youre quickly becoming one of my most listened to!

[@Dave-Red]

01:01:36 - Welfare and Workforce Participation. To be serious about this you first need to distinguish between physical and mental disability. Some one with a mental disorder [anxiety] that doesn't affect them physically gets the same Blue Badge as someone with a physical disability that can't actually walk. Hate to say it, but "anxiety" is the new bad back.

[@williamjohn7909]

My politics are similar to Peter, but the reality is the SDP is not cutting through. Nobody has heard of it. The Labour and Conservative Parties have ruined Britain. Therefore, to bring about change the only option is to support Reform even if you share his reservations about their economic issues. Otherwise nothing will be achieved.

[@davidbettney785]

It's early days...The SDP are starting to get on to the new media channels

[@williamjohn7909]

@davidbettney785 unfortunately, we don't have that much time. The policies of the two big parties have been absolutely disastrous, and something has to be done now. I don't think Farage is the answer, I share Musk's reservations, but he cuts across and with his contact with Trump will be guided. The Labour Party is so woke it's unbelievable how it claims to be Labour. It both hates and has betrayed the working class. How it cuddles up to Muslims shows a total lack of the of what Islam represents. The Tories are a mess. They were just about as woke as Labour when in government and now have no idea what to do. I think the SDP in a different era, but they also sold out a lot of credibility in the past by joining with the Liberals. Politics is about winning power, otherwise it's just philosophy.

[@harrycarter388]

Phenomenal interview - William seems like a genuine guy, which is hard to come by with politicians nowadays. No need for loud or arrogant speaking - just speaking with facts. Acknowledge that my opinion may well be tainted given how much the SDPs policies resonate with my personal beliefs (scarily so) - but I think most would agree with my opinion on WC. I really hope SDP is one of the winners as the two-party state continues to disintegrate

[@davidbettney785]

The more that likeminded people join the SDP, then the more chance the SDP has of relacing one of the old parties ;)

[@seanwhitfield4581]

Brilliant! Thankyou, great work. To me progress is something that benefits humanity, if it doesn't benefit humanity its not progress 😅

[@mikedudley4062]

Stand for something or fall for everything.... Liberalism. In my area, good capable business people, self employed and business owners are stepping up for REFORM to run. We will change councils, then we Go to work on a failed public sector government with no knowledge or capability

[@georgemather9082]

In an ideal world, this man would be PM. I’m a massive fan Clouston and I think him and SDP would be the governors of this country and have the best ideas in my opinion. Having said that, they aren’t going to achieve anything because Reform are in their spot and they are the only party that will bring down the two party system. Pragmatically, we must back Reform.

[@SujitMittra-j8q]

Thank You Very Much For The Meat!

[@brandon_youtube]

And just like that I support Social Democrats. I don't think Reform is a professional party. Just the loudest calling out current issues. I'm impressed by this interview and the policy ideas here

[@davidbettney785]

Great to have free thinkers out there. Join the SDP and be part of a common sense movement.

[@baltasarnoreno5973]

Agreed. I look at Reform and the adjectives 'obnoxious', 'boorish' and 'mouthy' spring immediately to mind.

[@leebrown6702]

Very interesting discussion. Would love to see William debating ideas with others.

[@luluisze]

i always like the idea you will have the government as the big player or provider, provide very basic service to everyone, and have a private companies you can opt in. let the public to choose which one to use, if you want basic only, go for govt, they should always provide the best possible on their budget. if you want premium service, you go for private.

[@lat1419]

The true mixed economy of govt delivering monopoly services, with capitalism delivering in areas of innovation and choice, is the most successful model for countries. Hyper capitalism (neoliberalism) fails us all ecept the ruthlessly super rich.

[@luluisze]

@@lat1419 100% agree and this the most successful model so far, a lot of asia country run this model, i dont understand why UK is so hard to make the turn.

[@krcalder]

The working class conservative. They are a very common breed in the South. During a misspent youth I spent a lot of time in the public bar of a local pub. I was surprised to find they were all conservatives, and when I talked to them about it, I found it was all about the pound in your pocket. The only people on the left were from the lower middle class, like myself. There was no one of any higher social standing than that. My networking skills do leave a lot to be desired.

[@davidbettney785]

You are SDP, you just don't know it yet, until you join ;)

[@derica2011]

I wish you'd challenged his social housing building policy. Truss put it down to Atlee's Town & Country Planning Act stifling building. With his housing background his response would have been interesting.

[@clangerbasher]

The People are the State. Government is set of apparatus and systems.

[@davidlinsdell4364]

I, like William, am European not EUropean.

[@JoshIgoe]

Wow, really like this guy.

[@davidbettney785]

He's a proper leader. Not a shouty look at me, politician, but one who "Fully" understands how the country should be run...William and Ben Habib, would make a great team.

[@jsg9575]

I hope they get more popular

[@davidbettney785]

They will with like minded people joining

[@PostLiberalUK]

Reform and the SDP should integrate. With the SDP being the left wing of Reform, because the reality is that Reform is the only vehicle for change. The SDP has excellent candidates like William and Amy Gallagher who would massively benefit the Reform movement.

[@baltasarnoreno5973]

Probably not going to happen. There may be some ideas and policies that they share in common but there are many more that put them poles apart. The big one being he almost universal idolisation of Thatcher and her economic/social model of unfettered free markets that is found in all corners of Reform. The SDP is 'trad left' as William very concisely puts it, and sees Thatcherism and its model of unfettered free markets as the destroyer of British industry and much of the British working class.

[@R.EGrantham]

Join The Homeland Party, a young party that seeks to save Britain and the native British people.

[@gazunkafonegazunkafone3492]

SDP need more exposure. I wonder why they are kept in the dark?!

[@whatsthisnow101]

Heard socialist and thought here we go, pleasantly surprised, lots of common sense and in alignment with what folks actually want. I enjoyed the pod cast.

[@allisterwhitehead]

For every broken family, you need two houses, two careers, two cars, two lawyers, the list goes on and on. Great for landlords, estate agents, Human Resource, car dealers and commerce in general, not so good for the 'families' you keep going on about. So few people today will commit to marriage and having a family because it's become far too dangerous a pursuit for men in general. People wonder why immigrant communities don't integrate into western culture when parts of that culture seriously undermines the society it's designed for! Western marriage is more likely to ruin a life, not enrich it. Why bother? Whilst I agree with Clouston and Galloway etc, there is quite a lot of social issues that politics on its own cannot solve. It's remarkable that the subjects that really matter are still too hot for social commentators to handle. Opinions are so fiercely opposed it can be extremely dangerous for a holding a particular view. This can't go on unrecognised by all but the red pill brigade. This argument has to enter the mainstream sometime but no one wants to grasp the nettle. It is at the heart of everything that's going wrong in the West.

[@richardmarkham8369]

Great interview Peter! Never really taken any notice of the SDP, William seems to talk a lot of sense, which is so rare these days. I'd love to see him and Liz in a room together! Would you ever consider something like that?

[@davidbettney785]

That would be an ideal three-way interview....People could really see the theories tested...Good call

[@wellyman2008]

Peter unless you lived in Witney or Henley or Uxbridge & South Ruislip you did not vote for David Cameron or Alexander Johnson (aka Boris). As a Bedfordonian you probably voted for whoever was standing in that seat. In the UK we have a system where we vote for individuals and hold them to account. If people held their MPs to account we would not be in the mess that we are in and only seven MPs would have survived the last election (the ones who provided considered opposition to the lunatic pandemic policies). Consider yourself told off! BTW - love the show.

[@dbking4194]

For me Shirley Williams was one of the senior politicians that set us on this disastrous path of moral and cultural relativism. I remember on Question Time she implied that Salman Rushdie had brought on death threats from the Islamic community and was to some extent at fault. At that time our political class as one should made it very clear that threatening to kill an author for writing a book is completely unacceptable. Shirley Williams took the path of moral cowardice. Our political have been on this terrible moral cowardice path ever since.

[@nib213]

Turned my allegiance on it’s head, I’m going to have to spend some time to digest this and come to terms with it.

[@davidbettney785]

Yes, I went from Tory to UKIP to the SDP...It does makes sense :)

[@Mouldhead]

Brilliant and also dangerous. Absolutely right about quite a lot - economics of Reform for example. Understand the views on illegal migration. Selectively leaves out facts and reframes arguments with incredible skill. Better than almost any MP. That's the dangerous bit.

[@pennyprendergast1086]

The EV industry is not going anywhere, the majority of those that buy them are those that can write the total cost off against tax. They are the most expensive impractical gadgets out there. Stay with petrol and diesel. Another thing is that nobody should be allowed into government until they learn the English Constitution, teach the barristers and judges too. We are being stomped over with hob nailed boots, and that is not what government was designed for. Take for instance that countryside bill tabled for 24th January... That is definitely against the English Constitution and will therefore be void according to Blackstone's.

[@benjaminzarbafi4802]

Would love to see William Clouston debate Daniel Hanaan on free trade

[@davidbettney785]

Both articulate, both well-read...Would be a quality debate

[@baltasarnoreno5973]

Good point about UK/US/EU immigration policies that depend on the importation of skilled talent from developing countries -- in particular the example he posed of nurses from West Africa and the tragic consequences that has on healthcare provision in the developing world. Kindhearted liberals who obsess about seeing diversity might want to think about that. And the same applies to all classes of professionals that the developed world brings in large numbers -- civil engineers, agronomists, IT specialists, architects, teachers -- all essential personnel if a developed country is to grow.

[@jamessnowden145]

You can have the private market in water and sewage. You have water delivered and sewage removed, IF it is less expensive than the state monopoly.

[@jjl8906]

Just started listening to this, DWR Cymru is not for profit and Welsh government owned, our bills are set to rise 42% and when the CEO was asked if he would go swimming in one of the sea's he refused to answer. There are issue with both approaches

[@formxshape]

When are you talking with David Starkey?

[@SujitMittra-j8q]

Time To Go Diving!