Whats Making Your Mixdown Muddy?

  Рет қаралды 13,033

Zen World - Evolution Of Sound

Zen World - Evolution Of Sound

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 84
@ZenWorld
@ZenWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Got this out in time! Time to sleep!!!
@itsexxra
@itsexxra 2 жыл бұрын
Night😴
@jb123abc
@jb123abc 2 жыл бұрын
Nighty night sleepy sleepy
@architectofathanasia
@architectofathanasia 2 жыл бұрын
I think the lead sounds nice at the higher octave in the whole mix, doesn't sound cheesy to me. If you have Pro-Q3 you can do the same thing as you did with the neutron EQ but use the sidechain feature and make the eq cuts dynamic, that way the leads would still cut through and make for a clean mix without always having the mids (or whatever frequency) of your pads (or whatever sounds) cut all the time. Not sure if Neutron has a sidechain feature but if it does it's quite a powerful tool. Thanks for video man!
@HumanBeingWithFeelings
@HumanBeingWithFeelings 2 жыл бұрын
Neutron does have sidechain dynamic EQ. it's great!
@We_Run_Up_Hills
@We_Run_Up_Hills 2 жыл бұрын
this song is a banger! will you ever release it?
@mikeamoz
@mikeamoz 2 жыл бұрын
You could use Fab Filter Pro MB . Run the EXT for sidechain compression, use the arp to trigger . Fast attack short release. Or to taste. Doing that and panning a bit of both pads might make some room for everything as well.
@jakebrown3697
@jakebrown3697 2 жыл бұрын
dynamic eq too !
@ZenWorld
@ZenWorld 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done stuff like this before but my only fear is hearing the *sidechain* on the sound. I’ll give this a go and compare!
@ZenWorld
@ZenWorld 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakebrown3697 I love dynamic EQ have it on the kick in this one to duck for the low mid frequencies of the SNARE
@KonJonnorMusic
@KonJonnorMusic 2 жыл бұрын
FF Pro MB is my go-to, excellent plugin.
@jakebrown3697
@jakebrown3697 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZenWorld I do that as well ! Sometimes If I have a clubby track that's sub heavy, I'll also put a dynamic eq on the kick covering like 50-70hz which helps the balance a lot.
@aaronhedgesmusic
@aaronhedgesmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the simplest ways to solve for masking is simply moving the octave of parts around. People often work too much by solo’ing parts and you might be surprised how something sounds if you just pumped up that arp an octave. Using a “V” shaped philosophy to production and mixing helps. Bottom of the V is low end, only one element plays there at a time and should be in mono. As you move into higher frequencies you can have more stereo width and information.
@muncheez2553
@muncheez2553 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting point thank you!
@ZenWorld
@ZenWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! I never knew of the philosophy of the V but always thought why not have this be a higher octave etc. just trying my best to not make it sound cheeesssssyyy.
@Skrenja
@Skrenja 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZenWorld I struggle getting a "V" with the low end on the spectrum analyzer like I see on so many professional tracks. When I analyze many phat sounding dance and trap songs, the subbass and sustain of the kick around 20-30hz is the tallest part and has a nice, cohesive, even shaped and long decay. I can _never_ achieve that with my songs. My low end is always "rounder" and uneven. It slopes/tapers down towards the lower frequencies -- no matter how much I raise the volume of the sub, lower the other instruments, eq, saturate, compress, limit (or don't compress) the sub frequencies. Drives me absolutley crazy and I've been struggling with it for YEARS. Please help. 😔
@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69
@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually why I don't use the peace hand sign. Peace is Pieces. V is separation. Opposite to Christ's hand symbol which means union of polar opposites. lol
@KonJonnorMusic
@KonJonnorMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zen , this is actually something I run into often that I don't pay enough attention to. Usually do fix it but its good to get another perspective.
@HercDeeman
@HercDeeman 2 жыл бұрын
Keep it up bro, i have learned a lot from you all these years :)
@nihaomao3063
@nihaomao3063 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the track to drop! Really good arp melody!
@EleVatingZenZes
@EleVatingZenZes 2 жыл бұрын
is the version of neutron needed for this the suite version or can it be the basic one called elements?
@hydralicious9315
@hydralicious9315 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@ko-jaxxedm9643
@ko-jaxxedm9643 2 жыл бұрын
I think layering up and cutting the frequencies is the way to go then you fill the full frequency spectrum up and wont lose the emphasis of the arp and have a bigger main lead too complainanting the arp focus of the track. So lead high low and mid with accurate eq then what you lose in the mids will be supported by the extra high and low just like you do with a chorus of vocals. Just a suggestion that how i try and dealwith mid frequency masking but its practice practice practice train your ears and make sure you have a open clear sound not muffled that what the ears finds most pleasant.
@ko-jaxxedm9643
@ko-jaxxedm9643 2 жыл бұрын
Please leave feedback i appreciate it 🙏.
@anjinbeats
@anjinbeats 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, I had no idea I could use Neutron 3 in this way. Super helpful!!
@zanderryz
@zanderryz Жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thank you!
@nerdexproject
@nerdexproject 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this! The guy who mentioned multiband sidechaining is right but sometimes it can also be an overkill. It's always good to know how to mitigate mud using an EQ. :)
@ZenWorld
@ZenWorld 2 жыл бұрын
My fear is always overthinking it! Multiband Sidechain sounds swell but with everyone talking about phase issues being presented with that it makes you just try to keep it simple. Always good to compare and go with what sounds best!
@LP-ug9rv
@LP-ug9rv 2 жыл бұрын
Got neutron and ozone on Black Friday, unreal plug-ins
@leslienambo9818
@leslienambo9818 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos teach me a ton! Thank you. I also just got Deceiver 4. Super pumped to work with it.
@izlo7377
@izlo7377 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zen!
@emiel333
@emiel333 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Zen. Also nice sounding drums in the track.
@deanlopez1978
@deanlopez1978 2 жыл бұрын
Man your knowledge is superb, 👌 world is a better place for having a Zen in the world, piece ninja 👌💚
@PCKNS
@PCKNS 2 жыл бұрын
“We have this section in the track where we kinda go a little synthwavey” lol - is the whole track not synthwavey?? Excellent work. I really love the grind on the EXPLR Syncer as it pitches down at the end. Goosebumps.
@ZenWorld
@ZenWorld 2 жыл бұрын
You know at first I was like this be!! Lane 8 Progressive a house ! But you might be right. The elements just didn’t sound great without that vibe!
@Kioselis
@Kioselis 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@aminchavez
@aminchavez 2 жыл бұрын
Zen, would love to see a vid on how to use fletcher munsen for mixing. I may be wrong, but I don’t think you have anything on your channel about this. P.s. hair looks good in the one bro 👍👍
@simenga4414
@simenga4414 2 жыл бұрын
Less is more. Perfect example, also a way to create space is using different octaves for the instruments obviously. So you have different frequencies covered.
@goldenmushrooms48
@goldenmushrooms48 2 жыл бұрын
love u thanks for the tips my friend 🕺🤠❤️
@moremsht4237
@moremsht4237 2 жыл бұрын
i watch your videos probably evry day! Great stuff man :)
@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69
@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 2 жыл бұрын
What about using panning to separate those low mids? Would panning then slightly left and right work or would you still need to EQ?
@urphakeandgey6308
@urphakeandgey6308 Жыл бұрын
I'd probably just lower the low-mids on the arp thing and heighten it on the main lead. Depends which one is more important to me. Might boost some highs on the arp thing so it can regain some presence elsewhere. But that's just what my quick noob intuitions tells me. I'm probably doing it all wrong.
@andskimusic
@andskimusic 2 жыл бұрын
thumbs up Zen. you can do the same for basslines and pads i assume?
@ZenWorld
@ZenWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah with logic ofcourse
@cjfromgtasanadreas
@cjfromgtasanadreas 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely track, I have something similar mix wise that needs solving, basically the same actually, this video helps thx
@onedayapp3534
@onedayapp3534 2 жыл бұрын
I like to use trackspacer
@tanakaus
@tanakaus 2 жыл бұрын
The track sounds amazing mate!!...Are you going to finish it??
@visi0n14
@visi0n14 2 жыл бұрын
How would you choose between this approach and the surgical style EQ where you would cut everything below 400hz on that top lead and maybe a slight dip on the main one so they both have room. Either this or making one fully mono (but still keeping FX wide) and the other a bit wider
@rola8597
@rola8597 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think it would be better to do this with pro-q 3 dynamic eq sidechained to the melody that is fighting for the same frequencies instead of eq cut? or use something like trackspacer instead?
@_ENOC
@_ENOC 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, sounded cheesey an octave higher to me
2 жыл бұрын
i need one for highend too
@ay5r900
@ay5r900 2 жыл бұрын
There is a Plugin called TRACK SPACER which does the job
@aaronhedgesmusic
@aaronhedgesmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Another great tip is to round off all your synths around 7k to leave more space for hats.
@ZenWorld
@ZenWorld 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good one! I’ve used RC 20 and the vinyl patch on the synths and noticed my hats were coming through more. This is probably why!
@KonJonnorMusic
@KonJonnorMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Dude this is a gold tip , think I got this from a Skrillex vid. Makes your top end way easier to manage
@aaronhedgesmusic
@aaronhedgesmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think I stole it from a JAUZ interview. I mean his style of music isn’t my thing but the tip stands
@frostmor8069
@frostmor8069 2 жыл бұрын
Thy Zen. Important video.
@artefact2162
@artefact2162 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@olimusmusic7537
@olimusmusic7537 2 жыл бұрын
Zen, could you make a series producing a tech house ("In the Dojo" artists style) from scratch? It must be the request of many lol lol
@Love-cp8sd
@Love-cp8sd 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should have both low and high on different phrases
@yoshijaecques6890
@yoshijaecques6890 2 жыл бұрын
Trackspacer is the perfect tool for that.
@flyoverfredusa
@flyoverfredusa 2 жыл бұрын
Dynamic eq would be a far better way of dealing with it once you've identified the problematic freqs - cool vid though, great channel
@ALifeTheKidd
@ALifeTheKidd 2 жыл бұрын
But Zen there is a Multiband Sidechain Plugin that does this... Instead of Routing it like you would Route a Bass to a Kick... The Plugin can Route The Synth to the Arp & it will trigger it to duck when both sounds are playing the same Frequency
@ZenWorld
@ZenWorld 2 жыл бұрын
I’m living in the PAST! What’s the name of the plug-in!
@ZenWorld
@ZenWorld 2 жыл бұрын
@Pahul Wadhwa ah I’ve seen it here and there gotta get my hands on it! Other way is to just use an audio effect rack and do it the long way ~_~
@ALifeTheKidd
@ALifeTheKidd 2 жыл бұрын
@Pahul Wadhwa Yes thats the One...theres another one too if you dont like Trackspacer as well
@ALifeTheKidd
@ALifeTheKidd 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZenWorld YUP, Wavesfactory Trackspacer ($50) I think... & You can Choose how much you would like & what Frequency to duck..
@ALifeTheKidd
@ALifeTheKidd 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZenWorld But yeah you can do that except this pretty much does it automatically without you doing anything.lol
@kaktusparty6305
@kaktusparty6305 2 жыл бұрын
10:21 omg i love the automation
@sarkany888
@sarkany888 2 жыл бұрын
your hair looks so fluffy
@l.romain6447
@l.romain6447 2 жыл бұрын
High is the way 👌🏿
@dnnstechno4914
@dnnstechno4914 2 жыл бұрын
Really useful! Suffering from omicron after only having delta 3 weeks ago, keeps the quarantine interesting lmao
@SaintScheriff
@SaintScheriff 2 жыл бұрын
Another one!
@bobrobertsNotUrBob
@bobrobertsNotUrBob 2 жыл бұрын
you should release this track as a project file, let your viewers edit it and submit it...just to see how others would do it. maybe make a comp out of it. great arp thou
@guzbass
@guzbass 2 жыл бұрын
HOMEWORK 1:44
@abrahamclark767
@abrahamclark767 2 жыл бұрын
That arp sounds like it's from a $2000 synth
@Matt_Morgan
@Matt_Morgan 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I prefered the "cheesy" version.
@abhaysingh1334
@abhaysingh1334 2 жыл бұрын
Second!
@jayharley3059
@jayharley3059 2 жыл бұрын
First
@gaetanomason
@gaetanomason 2 жыл бұрын
Higher is better
Bring Your Synths To Life With These Techniques
16:45
Zen World - Evolution Of Sound
Рет қаралды 10 М.
5 Reasons You Aren't Getting a Tight Mix
20:51
Zen World - Evolution Of Sound
Рет қаралды 59 М.
24 Часа в БОУЛИНГЕ !
27:03
A4
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН
Andro, ELMAN, TONI, MONA - Зари (Official Audio)
2:53
RAAVA MUSIC
Рет қаралды 8 МЛН
“Why does my mix sound muddy?"
15:12
Joe Gilder • Home Studio Corner
Рет қаралды 13 М.
Your mix is muddy, 5 reasons and ways to fix! W/ @DariannaEverett
6:43
Recording Arts Canada
Рет қаралды 14 М.
The Three Steps To Mix Your Tech-House Bass
18:04
Zen World - Evolution Of Sound
Рет қаралды 34 М.
Why Your Mixes Sound Thin (and how to fix in 6 mix)
9:52
Alice Yalcin Efe - Mercurial Tones Academy
Рет қаралды 165 М.
Why Your Tech House Tracks Sound Thin
15:54
Zen World - Evolution Of Sound
Рет қаралды 29 М.
How to Avoid Masking in Your Music
12:59
Lillian Frances
Рет қаралды 2,2 М.
Arrange even when you're uninspired
10:50
Underdog Electronic Music School
Рет қаралды 51 М.
Frequency Masking: 3 Ways to avoid any issues!
25:18
FL Studio Tricks
Рет қаралды 7 М.
8 Reasons Your Mixes Sound Thin and Muddy (and How to Fix Them)
15:49
Robot 🤖 cleaning 🧹
0:57
Bunnal 𝚃𝚎𝚌𝚑
Рет қаралды 4,7 МЛН
Extreme off-roading on a narrow brigde #shorts #shortsvideo
1:00
DASH CAM CN
Рет қаралды 11 МЛН
Ты ТОЧНО делаешь это когда БОЛЕЕШЬ 🤒
0:38
Никита Удановский
Рет қаралды 2,7 МЛН
Cut the Rope Challenge ✂️ #shorts
0:56
Mr DegrEE
Рет қаралды 9 МЛН
Как мы худеем, куда девается жир.
1:00