WhatsApp Threatens to Leave India over Encryption Rules | Vantage with Palki Sharma

WhatsApp Threatens to Leave India over Encryption Rules | Vantage with Palki Sharma
WhatsApp has threatened to leave India amid a legal showdown with the government of India over the new IT rules issued in 2021. The rules require social media firms to find the "first originator" of information by breaking end-to-end encryption. WhatsApp has argued that breaking its end-to-end encryption would violate the fundamental right to privacy. It may also lead to similar demands and rules in other countries. WhatsApp has more than 400 million active monthly users in India and generates around $1 billion in revenue. Is WhatsApp serious about leaving India? What would be the impact? Palki Sharma tells you.
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[@Clean09]

Meta is boasting about privacy as if their Facebook and Instagram never ever sell the data of their users without their permission 😂

[@rayjynx]

Whataboutism is the favorite tool of Indians online. You want your government to spy on your chats? Sounds like China to me. Asking to break end to end encryption is a serious problem, if you realised it you wouldn't make comments like these.

[@sukantpanigrahi76]

Whatsapp is different. It has end to end encryption.

[@mannsinghs]

Your comment shows you hardly understand overall business set up, data privacy and security! Each company has sits own policy even if these companies belong to the same group depending on type of business...

[@Vlogs_Dharma]

​@@mannsinghs so there are many alternative sources to share Secure data there is Aegis to share documents.but Watsapp can be misused and is misused for Riots and other things so it is good to ban it if it doesn't comply

[@anilm8544]

They supposedly mine data anonymously yet do targeted ads . Wonder how😮

[@khyatikothari4492]

So when Zuckerberg is leaving India… am desperately waiting to exit India … India should not entertain companies who think they are entitled to put trigger on our head.

[@sageofsixpaths7850]

and modi can?

[@susobhanmete8829]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 baccha

[@kev2407]

@@sageofsixpaths7850 andhbhakts bro

[@susobhanmete8829]

​@sageofsixpaths7850 exactly bro 😂😂

[@kev2407]

ppl arent realizing how government is tryna cover up from all the corner

[@AnshulMalikCS]

I am a software engineer, and trust me when I say this - There is no need to break encryption in order to find the originator the the message. They just need to store small metadata around the messages that's all. I don't know why they are trying to fight every argument with breaking encryption.

[@subhrajitgupta5535]

It's a violation of freedom. Who decides what fake news! State wants to jail people whom it doesn't like. Authoritarian state like this do. No democracy has it

[@santoshsaravanan5621]

True...

[@subhrajitgupta5535]

Chhapri North indian

[@jamessv5020]

I don't think you quite comprehend the problem. The issue is not finding the originator or receiver of the message; the issue is finding what the message itself was. If you don't know what the message is metadata is not going to help with the government's intended goal of finding out who is saying what. The "who" is easy, the "what" is the question. Good luck!

[@seneca983]

"They just need to store small metadata around the messages that's all." Does that really work? If the content of the messages is encrypted then how do you know which message's metadata you should look at?

[@alexwolf4000]

BJP IT cell wants to know who is competing with them in spreading fake news 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@unknown____.___]

😁

[@elaynejorge]

Or who is spreading the truth 🤔 It's always a two way street

[@alexwolf4000]

@@elaynejorge one who is open to questions, open to discussions, open to criticism ,open to diverse POVs etc is on the path of truth Modi doesn't want any press conference, That tells you a lot

[@rka-truthalwayswins5127]

BS!! What about Congress-INDI alliance / Pakistani IT cell??!!

[@alexwolf4000]

@@rka-truthalwayswins5127 U can believe what u want, But the fact is that BJP is in power ! And Modi won't do a real press conference

[@CBS_official]

Bye bye WhatsApp 😂😂 , We will make our own

[@Blahblahblah_420]

Just like you made Goo?? I mean Koo

[@user-je7pc2mp5e]

We saw koo and hike.😂😂

[@CBS_official]

@@Blahblahblah_420 You know the name 🤡 bot, That mean.. it's popular

[@user-je7pc2mp5e]

Don't worry this CBS_Official will also go unemployed. He is also a cell member.😝

[@iamvengeance7159]

With full of bugs

[@balakrishnans2605]

Please let WUP, FB, Instagram and related stuff leave India permanently. Its like cola drink

[@pocketsfullofdynamite]

Ask the govt to first give alternate apps for creators who rely on them to make money. Just like when Chinese products were banned.

[@version1865]

most idiotic take i have ever seen. How is it like cola drink bro. what kind of stuff are you smoking?

[@t-.-t.]

Yes. Let's go back to darkages and ride bullacarts. I can't believe people are ok with dictatorship

[@P-wf1jj]

Switch to Arattai by Zoho Corporation

[@sandeepssangha]

@@pocketsfullofdynamite There are plenty of alternative apps ready to use like Hike etc, whatsapp is not the best app, its was just the first mover and hence used in bulk, even if there are better apps, logic goes why use something else, when most friends family members use whatsapp. But this logic goes moment whatsapp leave, may be a even more feature rich app majority will migrate too, so wont be bad for India, earlier closed opportunities, may push an lesser used Indian app to high prominence and brand

[@psvisakhan]

We Indians need end to end encryption.

[@The-Magadh]

Don't become a typical Muslim be progressive & Nationalist a

[@rka-truthalwayswins5127]

BS!!

[@alooeeee4069]

​@@rka-truthalwayswins5127 how is it BS? Kindly explain because by what you just said you seem like someone who's okay with showering naked on a middle of a road

[@1xsoofi]

We world citizens don't care about india

[@rka-truthalwayswins5127]

@@alooeeee4069 Privacy is less important than national security!! And never forget.. You were born naked!! In reality, you remain naked especially in front of those who have a higher spiritual or power quotient!!

[@kodavatribe]

I am fed up with insta and FB so i deleted the account forever and now I am peaceful 😌 india should have own whatsApp kind of app.

[@mashis7299]

Well telegram is d option

[@rajkrishnan6146]

Yes..India should develop own social media platform

[@ShaitaaN_raju]

@@rajkrishnan6146 they have koo ... are you using it ??? i would not trust it

[@ZeroOne130]

India should follow China example and create our stuff. Stop relaying on western.

[@samit4545]

Actually all the social media are very depressing ❤

[@bhumeshgupta432]

Earning money from india and threatening customers... great joke

[@hemanthmanojkumar176]

they are not threatening customers they are trying to protect our data from government

[@Blahblahblah_420]

Who is threatening customers? Did you even watch the video?? Whatsapp is being told to break its encryption of messages. Seriously! Watch before b@rk!ng

[@Pshaurk]

Whatsapp is free and whatsapp is actually in the right here. Government shouldnt be spying on citizens. Random people in power can use for power tripping and destroying lives.

[@jujirer]

@@Blahblahblah_420 "encryption of messages" is not respected in Pakîstan as well but have they threatened to pull out of Pakistån?many Pakistaní students have gotten arrested over blāsphemy on whatsapp.

[@gunitagoyal6153]

​@@Blahblahblah_420mark brother or encryption what a joke

[@Whisperingggshadowss]

India needs its own social media!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sensei2203]

Like Koo ..? 😂 Where godis club together??

[@Blahblahblah_420]

You already have Hike, Koo etc

[@JiviteshBakshi]

@@sensei2203 cry more weeb

[@shyamalagowri9992]

Absolutely we became a product for meta

[@sanjaysanj6688]

BJP media , its already there Mr Andhbhakt 😂

[@SingularityHRT]

Same thing happened with VPN a few months ago. Indian Govt asked all data from VPN companies based in India. They said no. Govt was not willing to compramise on a chance to get all data so didn't make any positive change. All major VPN companies left India for Good. Same will happen for WhatsApp as well. If They have to follow Indian Law, They will have to break encryption Worldwide. Most countries will not like that and will mount lawsuits over lawsuits over WhatsApp (especially EU). So WhatsApp will readily leave India if that situation comes. All apps will leave. India will become a surveillance state like China and North Korea.

[@TheIndraprastha8]

It's good than becoming mentally colonize to then. 🙏

[@mr.madushan]

Companies want your data, while governments want your conversations.

[@yanganganand1035]

Encryption is such a loaded word. Remember that guy who wrote bomb in his Snapchat got arrested immediately at the airport in America? Snapchat is an encrypted messenger service too.😅

[@noclicheplease]

But that issue was because someone looked over his shoulder and read the message on his mobile. Isn’t it?

[@yanganganand1035]

@@noclicheplease don’t recall that part.

[@learnwithmrfinancer2081]

​@@yanganganand1035"don't recall that part". So you're forcefully trying to blame snapchat.....?

[@Blazer-bn9ev]

Snapchat's encrypting isn't the same as whatsapp's. Whatsapp is end-to-end encrypted from the user side itself, while Snapchat offers basic server side encryption, meaning the data sent over snapchat can be intercepted by a third party

[@learnwithmrfinancer2081]

@@Blazer-bn9ev Understood👍, thanks for explaining.

[@ramakrishnaprasad1519]

Better have indian versions for all these apps. We can certainly Avoid their dominance and blackmail.

[@Blahblahblah_420]

Where is the blackmail?? You want a company to share a users personal messages which they dont have access to with the government?

[@manvijaysinghbhati5857]

abe guru gantal tere mere private message pdne baithe itna time ni h government k pass rai ka pahad bana raha h baat simple h fake message circulate hua agr to uska first creator kon tha ye whats aap wale bataye

[@Incognito040]

Govt has the writes to do that . whatever if the Court decides then we are nobody to make objections. ​@@Blahblahblah_420

[@gunitagoyal6153]

@@Blahblahblah_420 bro not only you we will also suffer from terrorist activities and online crime and we are with government on this decision

[@manvijaysinghbhati5857]

aur aap ko kyu lgta h k aap k kiye hue so called encrypted message koi aur nahi pd sakta h bakaida rule h US me only US citizen k msg hi private h aap k mere nahi

[@KishoreKumar-hm8uh]

To punish the ones who are misusing the technology, a billion innocent people have to sacrifice their privacy. That’s not fair.

[@fireteamomega2343]

Well it's their own government that's forcing it

[@halvincarris]

Absolutely correct.

[@sourabstyles3118]

If you think that groups like meta, WhatsApp or Twitter are saving your privacy then you still have no idea about their true nature. They sell your data to third party internet brokers to gain 'extra income' in their own pockets.

[@sourabstyles3118]

Also don't try to undermine the state security situation of India by saying some people 'misusing' it. India is right now one of the major targets of multiple terrorist outfits of the world. The only reason why we are still haven't faced multiple terrorist attacks on every week is only because security agencies are working day and night to hack and sabotage the terrorism plans.

[@thedonnx]

You don't need to break the encryption. Just flag every WhatsApp account with an ID already present and add it to the metadata of the original message. This would be forwarded with a message that is being submitted. It could be similar to the email trace in the header of the email.

[@oraclebyajay6151]

Most social media apps use public data for business so they cannot pretend the messages are encrypted.

[@sageofsixpaths7850]

tell me you're uneducated without telling me

[@kev2407]

@@sageofsixpaths7850 🤣🤣 and then they asked why they aint getting jobs after degrees

[@gunitagoyal6153]

@@sageofsixpaths7850 talking about yourself

[@humbleindian6303]

these super apps like facebook whatsapp should not allowed to control our freedom , these billionaires are trying to control our mind

[@ritikasharma9271]

​@@kev2407Maybe he/she is working but After reading ur english I think u really need eng grammer classes

[@anko7827]

As an Indian, good riddance, nothing is above Security of my Country. We will make an alternative

[@NishantThakur488]

Okay then install a camera and microphone in your house with a direct link to the government. Surely there can be nothing safer than that right?

[@Jun_kid]

@@NishantThakur488 Security is to monitor people like you who think anything Indian is either inferior or evil.

[@torresthemonster]

Bro you spend your day commenting on KZbin, your not going to do anything 😂

[@stephanieellison7834]

Then GET MOVING! I've been waiting for a few years to get off toxic western social media apps!

[@putatoee]

this is stupid. end to end is for our privacy.

[@mohithargunani6610]

1. Fundamental rights are important and should be absolute. There is a reason we call it FUNDAMENTAL. 2. This'll go to the Supreme Court. 3. If need be there are loads of engineers who can make a new messaging app for India and the world.

[@sekharduggirala3965]

This is so stupid. Develop app and you use it. After a while don't say that your mobile is hacked or bank account or personal details are leaked. 400 Million Indian's accounts will be at security risk if Encryption is disabled.

[@sharonscraftsworld8614]

​@@sekharduggirala3965true

[@halvincarris]

If so why not till now? Why have Indians not been able to make any messaging or social media app yet?

[@rka-truthalwayswins5127]

BS!! National security is more important than ANY RIGHT, person or company!!

[@asissuthar]

Nothing more important than national security

[@mr.madushan]

national security = political stability

[@Cabal294]

Ghanta encryption hai.. jo chat karte Hain baad me ads dikhata hai

[@puneetbshah]

that is not whatapps' issue, it's the keyboard that records keyword for adsense

[@user13rs258]

​@@puneetbshahboth whatsapp and google board has access to your microphone 24/7 also camera 24/7 😊

[@yashpratapsinghsirohiya8609]

​@@puneetbshah What if I didn't search anything, just by default I clicked on anything and same coming of my recommendations?? Without typing?

[@Incognito040]

​@@puneetbshah Bro its common sense that whatsapp is showing ads . I mean the ads you are watching is in whatsapp , not in your particular keyboard 😅

[@sudhakar7889]

​@@Incognito040Where in the world you got ads in WhatsApp?

[@Mayur7Garg]

I stand with Whatsapp on this case. Their messages are end to end encrypted using an open source protocol and not having encrypted messaging is a breach of privacy. Plus, governments change. The rules have no accountability for the government regarding which person's data do they request access of. Different governments (existing or future) may easily misuse it.

[@tss4629]

But country security comes first rather than individual privacy, or end to.end encryption or not following countries laws, or company false threat of leaving.

[@NishantThakur488]

@@tss4629 Okay then install a camera and microphone in your house which the government can access live at any time. Surely, nothing can be more secure than that right? The status quo is more than adequate for national security, this push for removal of encryption is simply for the government to increase its power over citizens and to track down dissenters.

[@maxmueller5395]

​@@tss4629 one day u will be tracked by indian govt just like Chinese govt track their citizens. It's very complex in nature. Don't just go blind by what our national security will look like, if whatsapp surrenders every app will have to. Then there goes ur personal data. What you buy, what you eat, what you order everything will be well known by the govt. Do you really wantt that?

[@Kratos-hi1kx]

@@tss4629 so you basically want india to become the next north korea?

[@tss4629]

@@Kratos-hi1kx What's App can decide if they want to do business in India or they want to to keep their own agenda and stick to that. North Korea has nothing to do here so there is no comparison here. Those business that want to comply with government policies will do business others will pack up and leave the field.

[@nishim2631]

Pls leave India. Meta has already shown their true color. Why trust when countries like Singapore and EU is already challenging their privacy rules. Why should india behave differently?

[@premjitsingh3964]

Educated brother and sister telling whatsApp to leave india without even knowing anything The new it rules indeed help to find the originator bt it also give government to misuse this power yours chat are no more secure even if its secure government can access your chats which is scary if u dont understand how dangerous is this take china as example wechat text can be access by Chinese government and china people are not allowed to critize thier government

[@shibashisdutta8042]

Google knows more about me than I know about myself. And suddenly they become the protector of our privacy.

[@ksrik1582]

😂😂😂 so true

[@shreyas__]

the difference between government overreach and company overreach. both are bad, one is worse. The bigger issue at hand is government overreach. Maybe if we are sane once, we can fix this and then work on company overreach.

[@shibashisdutta8042]

But my concern is. We elect the govt. We know that govt needs to protect the country and us. So they can arrest someone or even get into someone's house with a warrant to search. We gave govt that power. We follow the rules on the road. Why. Isn't it goes against our freedom? I want drive opposite direction. Can I. Or one terrorist says. I have my privacy. So govt cannot come inside my house. So he can build bombs there. Can he.? But we gave FB or Google this power to use our data just by clicking on that 50 page of "I agree" thing. And now they can stop authority to trace or track terrorists.

[@amiemohan8578]

@@shreyas__but irony is Big tech giants cn obey the laws in USA, Australia,EU , UAE, and China but they cnt do the same for India…😂😂😂

[@shreyas__]

@@amiemohan8578 i dont think you understand what the problem is here. This law is very immoral and essentially gives government a backdoor into your personal life. The governments excuse for this is safety because some people misuse the privacy encryption provides. This is like collective punishments in school where everyone got punished for some fews bad deeds. So its not just about following the law, its essentially your own privacy that the government is taking away. I'm not sure how you're defending that. None of the other countries in your list have such a stupid law.

[@Me-ws5zt]

Whatsapp trying to protect users privacy from government. Meanwhile users- Get out WhatsApp, we have our Modiji😂🤣🤣 Right to privacy chala jaye lekin modi ki bhakti na jaye 🤣🤣🤣

[@muzammil292]

Yeah it's funny 😂

[@singularity3021]

Then why they are giving data to other meta apps????and the main culprit Google using every person data for ads😂😂

[@Me-ws5zt]

@@singularity3021 Ads won't get you arrested but modi will.

[@glitch67]

⁠@@singularity3021dumb fuck! What you search on google is not encrypted! Never were intended to be encrypted! Chats on the other hand encrypted to prevent other people from accesing it! Its only better the sender and the receiver! Chats require encryption! Who the fuck gets ads based on their whatapp chat?

[@anonymous_air]

The only thing that can protect your privacy are electoral bonds of a specific party 😂

[@halvincarris]

Well said

[@rka-truthalwayswins5127]

Is that why Congress & INDI alliance crooks subscribed to more than half of those bonds??!!

[@helliboss]

So in simple lay man's terms, if I post a letter to my friend, the postal system has the right to open the envelope and read the contents. This is more than whatsapp, this is a breach of privacy. Apps come and go but the issue here is bigger.

[@user-pd9hm6ru9t]

If a terrorist sent a bomb to another place then,,is this same principle applicable

[@marimuthu14]

​@@user-pd9hm6ru9t do you think terrorists and high level criminals communicate using WhatsApp? Have you not heard of Dark Web?

[@sreehari3127]

Only if necessary Security of the nation is more important

[@halvincarris]

@@user-pd9hm6ru9t Not sure how a terrorist will do that using Whatsapp.

[@baidik5505]

@@user-pd9hm6ru9t EU nations are functioning quite well without reading text messages, you don't need such a serious breach of privacy to protect your citizens. This is surveillance, straight and simple.

[@Trueman571]

No problem. Let them exit. National security is most important.

[@Me-ws5zt]

Modiji wants to know how many times you go to the bathroom. 😂

[@cosmopolitanape6969]

I agree every citizen of india should always carry mic with them for government to detect any threat to the country and counter terrorism

[@bhatnitish]

​@cosmopolitanape6969 better still, every citizen who values national security over anything else including privacy can carry around a camera that records all activities around them 24x7. Nothing is safer than that, surely!

[@P-wf1jj]

Switch to Arattai by Zoho Corporation based

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: - If a PM/Govt pass a Law stating - People are not innocent until proven guilty - People are guilty until proven innocent - PM/Govt is Democratic or Fascist?

[@PiyushPal-7777]

They can't because they are earning from here and if they can then we'll make our own

[@comicyapper524]

making our own is simple but no one wants govt to keep watch on us. why you think people didnt sign up for the indian apps. people dont like govt to poke nose in private life. privacy is the most important thing and in our country its a myth because of some unaware people like you

[@Blahblahblah_420]

No one will your app! Calm down People will switch to Telegram or Signal 🤣

[@nachi1588]

​@comicyapper524 privacy doesn't exist anywhere. The American government has access to everything, and if you use Chinese smartphone or hardware, the Chinese government watches you, so it's between them or your government.

[@joramjacob1239]

We will make our own. Sorry bro Faug game (Replica of pubg) was enough.

[@antiwokehuman]

@@comicyapper524dont try to explain to andhbhakts. They don’t mind the govt spying even in their bedrooms

[@SingularityHRT]

This is not IT rules, but Govt legal surveillance rules.

[@prnva_]

People don't understand how big of a privacy risk it is to let govt access all/any data. This is what CCP did look how they monitor every minor thing about the citizens. Like Apple i think Meta should stand thier ground. I think govt can hire some cybersecurity experts to get the information they need rather than deliver all the available data on a silver plate.

[@anandaramana.g.422]

Ask them to leave as soon as possible. In fact they will be doing us a favour.

[@Manish_Maity]

Indeed. Entire Facebook Instagram Whatsapp should leave India!

[@billygun1000]

Bjp won’t allow that 😂😂😂

[@sunilram6431]

Education is banned in your state

[@captaingiridharbarva]

@@sunilram6431 r u from japan....in india no state has banned education

[@boringgames3625]

what about my sex chats with your mom. What will happen if the gvt knows?

[@sanjeevdevarajan366]

They don’t have the the guts to do so

[@user-je7pc2mp5e]

They have. They question is does Bjp have the guts to close their Cell as they mainly run on WhatsApp 😂

[@lovescenery5257]

​@@user-je7pc2mp5e Lost child of German Shepherd spotted 😂 **Ab Andhbhakt reply kar deta hu cool banke democracy bachaunga😂

[@vinod-cf2jl]

​@@lovescenery5257modi papa ko haar jagah defend karunga...meri rojgaar yahi hai..

[@soumyakundu687]

​@@vinod-cf2jlGerman shepherd ko defend karunga, yahi meri Rojgar he 🤡

[@iimcrandomgamer711]

​​@@vinod-cf2jl Har jagh hagnaa hotaa hee comment section mee or fir apnee apko smart samjhungaa sochtee hoo.

[@panther1527]

Isme tera ghata mera kuch nhi jaata 😂😂

[@satishm223]

Its good ..we can atleast connect in person like pre internet era

[@wayando]

If they leave even for 1week ... Someone will rush in to fill the vacuum in almost 1sec! ... They would never dare!

[@Blahblahblah_420]

Telegram and Signal are already too popular in India. Telegram upholds its values to de@th. Even if it gets banned, we can get the apk file from the browser using VPN. The power of Telegram was tested and tasted by the CCP in Hong Kong, Putin in Russia, Mu!!@hs in Iran and Thai monarchy supporters. Even the FBI tried but Telegram didnt budge. They tried and failed. Now we have another country trying to join the list and fail. Telegram was built to fight tyrants be it the CCP or mu!!@hs or Putin and soon a leader from South Asia is joining this list too.

[@rahulsangvikar7973]

Making an app that looks and feels like WhatsApp is not challenging, the real challenge is in handling the sheer scale of users and their messages. That's not something that can be accomplished in less than 1 week.

[@gyanendrakumarsatapathy4257]

​@@rahulsangvikar7973 see when tik tok was banned in India. Same logic was given.

[@hmingthansangavangchhia4913]

Whatsapp is defending your privacy from Modi's govt and you are still siding with Modi. Are you sure your brain cells are functioning?

[@hmingthansangavangchhia4913]

Whatsapp is defending your right to privacy. How do you even pick sides. Are your brain cells working.

[@AbhishekKumar-ub2uj]

WhatsApp got to exist in India. It has to work in India. Otherwise the entire WhatsApp University will falter 😅😅😅😅

[@Harsh_critique]

The idea to prevention of fake news is just a drama 😅😅😅, everybody knows amongst all the fake news circulated over the social media more than 90% are circular by the BJP IT cell 😅😅😅😅

[@HarishchandSingh-cs9mj]

Even I'm worried about the future of WhatsApp University 😂😂😂

[@Harsh_critique]

The argument of prevention of circulation of fake news is just a drama 😅😅 Everybody knows amongst all of the fake news circulated over the social media more than 90% are being circulated by the BJP IT Cell 😅😅😂😂😅 😅😅😅

[@Harsh_critique]

The argument of prevention of circulation of fake news is just a drama 😅😅 Everybody knows amongst all of the fake news circulated over the social media more than 90% are being circulated by the BJP IT Cell 😅😅😂😂😅

[@Harsh_critique]

The argument of prevention of circulation of fake news is just a drama 😅😅 Everybody knows amongst all of the fake news circulated over the social media more than 90% are being circulated by the BJP IT Cell 😅😅😂😂 😅😅😅😅

[@seeco3829]

What if govt misuse the provision to crack down anti-rss, voice of dissent and environmental activist groups and govt themselves plant bug in people's private conversations?

[@SG003]

If government has so much time they should bring data protection law first

[@Trilok_world]

Yes, it is in process if you read news, after the election's this government will implement this law.

[@vidyaranyavijayapura1121]

Just like another rti

[@sreehari3127]

The government must do it, YES..! But understand the fact that the government has thousand other things to do, so it will take time, but it is so important, it should come sooner than later

[@SuperSfaz]

In 2018 i gave an interview for a foreign job on whatsapp. Did not even discuss the matter with my wife and in the next hour and i am getting ads of hotels in that country and my youtube suggesting me videos related to that country. So much for encryption!

[@paris9332]

a blatant lie..

[@devilshell6570]

A lot of reasons could be their for this brother .. like the keyboard you use .. ,or the browser you used .. ,or might be your ISP .. they all track your data .. and these data is only taken on behalf of keywords .. like suppose you type a specific place name or specific product name .. ads will target u based on that .. . Encrypted chat means .. the conversation you're doing with someone is not being read .. by anyone other then the person who send and recieved ...

[@nijroJo]

​@@paris9332yes that happens with insta and Facebook buy definitely not with WhatsApp

[@SuperSfaz]

​@@devilshell6570 May be. But at that moment i did not used my keyboard. I had applied for that job months back. Never searched about living in that country. And the point is that your data, very specific data is being stored somewhere. This means it can be made available to anyone, including governments if i become a person of interest! So whatsapp basically telling Indian government to talk to uncle sam if they want data 😊

[@TravelConsumer]

Pajeet can't even lie properly. Dude how can you be so dumb that government is paying nothing to you and are still wasting your life doing job for them. Andbhakts destroying India is real

[@ashokwadhwan5719]

Thank God, hope it really happens. At least Whatsapp University will be forced to shut down, and people, who believe in democracy know which party runs this University.

[@harshitlohani4280]

It is something for BJP's own benefit. Person sharing messages against of bjp will be punished where person sharing messages in favour of bjp will not get punished so that there vote bank votes will increase. And it is a direct attack on right to speech or freedom of speech because whatsapp is a medium where one share there own opinions without any fear. And the matter is not complicated As told by this journalist. Also telling against the ruling party comes under freedom of speech. No one including the government have authority to take any action against any particular person telling against of ruling government.

[@vinny1010]

So who decides what is "Fake News"? This is a huge break of privacy. All Indians should be concerned about this law

[@pavanshetty9806]

If something is a fact, it is either true or false. Opinions are different. We xan allow opinions but if some one twisting facts like they did dururing CAA , farm laws, it is easy to know if it is fake news.

[@suryagurung7793]

Indeed. It is sad how Indians are reacting to this with a smug attitude. We must not let the govt pry so deep into our lives.

[@rishikeshtaywade7138]

It gives the govt too much power to run their narratives

[@atntaltd]

this law is about origin of particular MSG , not about blowfish end to end encryption , whatsapp university graduate spotted

[@AakashSharma-le8pm]

Court can decide whether the news is fake or not but at least the investigating agencies should be given information from the social media brands to trace the origin of these fake news.

[@subeeshs477]

Telegram :I am waiting 😂😂

[@sekharduggirala3965]

Telegram as well encrypted. For Your Information.

[@parthibank2736]

Govt is forcing WhatsApp to reveal personal data. They said in the entire world we do not do it. How can we do it in India

[@sreehari3127]

They say and you believe them? They are brands from the west and the west want to see us in trouble. So it is important to do it in our country, it's a thing in china

[@ksd7533]

What' app - we're leaving India India - ok let's do that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kancharlasuryateja]

Do u even understand what whatsapp was asked to do?

[@crowbar3]

"ahahaha bhot maza agaya bhai meri chats ab koi sarkari babu padh sakta hai ahahhah".

[@kaiblade760]

@@kancharlasuryateja They don't, they blindly follow whatever the government says without thinking of the repercussions. They are more or less sheep.

[@arjitmishra100]

​@@kaiblade760actually We do understand,

[@garvitasingh29]

​@@kancharlasuryatejadon't argue with andhbhakts. Their brain isn't developed to understand the matter. Ram will protect them

[@pappaji4368]

Indian IT companies must catch this opportunity to launch Indian messanger. We will be more than happy to use our own app.

[@wheelrider7702]

Then Indian company app also should fulfill government request. As a business can they efford is the question...

[@t-.-t.]

It won't work 90% of the time. It'll be full of ads and all our private chats will be sold to 3rd party

[@asht7899]

Then use Indian mobiles also..

[@maheshnagaraj4402]

They wont. They are happy serving western clients and making money. So far they have not invested any money in any R&D. So unless there is big money, they will not do. They wont give even a small piece of sweet Kaju katli to their employees unless its funded by their client (this is from my exp.).

[@Aditichandrakar]

Dont watch and play cricket bro thats not indian game Britisher threw their garbage game in innocent indian minds , high time to india to stop playing foreign antinational game and play gilli danda

[@rudraksh634]

The actual fact here is numbers in financial terms to WhatsApp. They use encryption end to end mean they don’t store large numbers of data on their servers they store data on host devices so both devices can easily encrypt each other messages. While the government here have logical reasoning here if someone use these encryption for spreading misinformation or creating a chaotic environment then it should be trackable. For that WhatsApp need middle server in between sender and receiver on top of it the company needs to storable servers where they could store all the information and it could cost millions as users in india is nearly 400millions.

[@thejasiliemetha]

Once the encryption is removed, always be aware that there is could be a third person in the chat.

[@lbsnaadiaries1432]

Bhad m jaye... Koi dusra app dwlnd krlenge kam to chlta rhega 😂

[@sageofsixpaths7850]

tere bhi sar pe kl bandook rakh ke bolenge apni biwi ko bjp ke karyakarta ke saath sula kyunki humne law banaya hai, fir karta firiyo naye app download

[@ISmellMusky]

"WHAT IF" has always been the Excuse to TOTALITARIANISM!

[@niyatiladani1504]

What if, has been to just showcase the outcomes of a certain situation, which here is that if the Court gives a decision in favour of gov what would be the options left out for WhatsApp.

[@AmkertYan]

@@niyatiladani1504 US govt once asked Apple to unlock the phone of a dead person to solve their crime, and to build a backdoor to bypass the encryption in iPhones for such cases, but Apple refused and ultimately the govt was refused by the court. If a country says there is no right to privacy, then it is fine, the company must reveal everything if demanded by the govt, else they leave the country. Same is true in India, which lacks in privacy rights.

[@Sameer_S_Kulkarni]

Typical compulsive contrarian comment 😏

[@megha6865]

I dont know what all our Indian parents will do if Whatsapp is not there. They are obsessed with this😂

[@ajitt9902]

So whatsapp is more concerned about right of privacy of criminals 😂😂

[@khyatikothari4492]

Indeed one criminal supporting another criminal 😂😂😂😂

[@wokegirl4838]

So. are you a criminal? If not, why should govt have access to your messages?

[@shrikrishnasingh1106]

@@wokegirl4838 didnt you see the whole video(literally just takes 5 min) or are you dumb enough to not understand what is explained in it of how it works?

[@ajitt9902]

@@wokegirl4838 listen to the video properly 🙄

[@soumodipkarmakar402]

​@@ajitt9902what do you think us citizens are criminal? If you are illetarate dont make comments on internet

[@universalspirit5831]

The courts and Milords are themselves hiding behind "Privacy" laws and refusing to disclose information about their income and assets.....😂😂😂

[@baldguy1964]

Courts, Treasury and IT department already have this data, if they need. Why should it be made public?

[@crowbar3]

Why should they disclose their wealth to public? All data is with IT dept.

[@Konklish.]

Rules are good but can be misused too by the government to target it's opponent 😢😢

[@simbacomeback9433]

Correct and then tanashahi start..😢

[@sekharduggirala3965]

leave opposition, common man data and privacy will be compromised. Hackers will become billionaires.

[@coorgiand6820]

you believe a pvt company in america but not your own government...that too in case of criminal activity...so any country can use whatsapp to target your country...if you are worried abt data you have no problem togive every data in facebook but afraid of accountable indian govt..so u give power to foreign country to manipulate you

[@simbacomeback9433]

@@coorgiand6820 open your eyes and see....our government put the jail opposition leader......all corrupt politician came in bjp...electorical bond scam..Ed cbi all agency work for bjp...that's why we not believe our government.....l

[@victoria14royalattic82]

@@coorgiand6820agreed ❤

[@im_pradeep45]

IT ministry itself says that WhatsApp already mines users data. They know that they take our data, but still they do not action.

[@tamilvendans4892]

Society that choose liberty over security doesn't deserve both. Comment section proved it.

[@nishant54]

They are modi bhakts without brain. What can we expect? Only bhagwan bhakts can think.

[@suryavishwanath8564]

exactly...i was seeing tons of comments which was against whatsapp and rooting towards the government's stupid policy...whatsapp is trying to save peoples privacy from government, but blind uneducated stupid ppl are thinking , that government is doing the right thing.... shows how many stupid ppl are there in the comment section

[@dcforever8759]

You need to know the difference between privacy and liberty

[@kindofanmol]

Rare W by Meta. Individual encryption should never, ever be compromised for a government.

[@singularity3021]

Then what about terrorists/radicals using WhatsApp to co ordinate attacks on common people

[@NitinPal101]

You don't need to compromise encryption to fulfill govt ask here.

[@coorgiand6820]

you believe a pvt company in america but not your own government...that too in case of criminal activity...so any country can use whatsapp to target your country...if you are worried abt data you have no problem togive every data in facebook but afraid of accountable indian govt..so u give power to foreign country to manipulate you

[@shivajithakur7735]

LOL these companies are literally stealing our data

[@AmkertYan]

@@NitinPal101 You need to. If they ask about what secret discussion is going on in some groups which they can claim belong to terro or some other individuals, even framing others just to sneak a look at their sensitive info. I'm no fan of these american tech giants who have a monopoly over the world social media, but encryption is a thing directly related to privacy rights. Even Whatsapp's company can't see the end-to-end encryption data of its users and this was its biggest advantage over other social media apps.

[@muruchandran6701]

Creating another policy for Ambani. Who would be the beneficiary if WhatsApp banned? Public will be loosers

[@babakela8634]

Your thoughts and your name, both complimenting each other 😂😅😂😅

[@pijushbhuyan9602]

I guess we will get JioChat 😂. Oh my bad, it already exists

[@shaileshdabhi792]

No I think they come up with new app

[@PriyakantPanwar]

We already have 👇 A r a t t a i - 💬 C h a t M e s s e n g e r B y - Z O H O (S R I D H A R V E M B H U)

[@singularity3021]

Mota bhai hafte bhar mr WhatsApp ja india version launch kr denge😂😂😂

[@eyeofthepyramid2596]

Dude I don't want anymore Ambani monopoly. Let's give a chance to start-ups

[@user-yi8rh9wu9s]

Muslim ☪️

[@brijeshyadav4780]

bye bye whatsapp u will not be missed😭😭😂

[@glitch67]

Andbhakt thinks he is cool😢

[@S_K_J]

In today's tech industry one app can easily replace other . Tik tok was banned ,we didn't even cared about it

[@OMKUMAR-bu2do]

Three days before Dhruv Rathee made a video on WhatsApp and now this 💪❤

[@dudechany]

Its too dangerous to let govt controll the communication channels there will be no privacy left.

[@singularity3021]

Lol!is there any privacy exist there ,i mean i searched a heir care product on Flipkart after that Google giving me same product ads throughout their apps and meta apps like yt,insta,fb,news channel websites almost everywhere

[@ssdigitalstores]

Bye bye whatsapp from india. Welcome arattai messenger to brave and strong.

[@aranlufthansa45]

WhatsApp would lose significant amount of users. WhatsApp will never. Indians have leverage

[@ragnarlothbrok2538]

these rules are to enslave us

[@reckoner-nash]

The govt will use these rules as weapon against decenting individuals and opposition political parties, i think but indian people deserve these kind of rules actually there should be constant monitoring of every citizen.

[@nopuppetmaster]

IT rules makes anonymous Internet Impossible. All Self Respecting VPN providers have already left India. Now WhatsApp. This is what happens when we give too much unaccounted power to the government.

[@user-iz2rm1kh8h]

leave india now.

[@nishant54]

Modi and tadipar take back your illegal rule right now.

[@fakoneuwyong]

😮It looks like some countries will follow China's step after they laughed at China before.

[@shrirambhandari1463]

There should be a middle ground on this.

[@user-yh2vm2ti3c]

irony is palki gathered all her information from whatsapp to report on whatsapp.. 😂😂😂😂

[@eshwargetenv1]

court should put the point forward that if you don't comply with the rule of the land, then leave.

[@nishant54]

Nope fool. This is illegal rule. Noone should follow this.

[@_.F0X._]

Whatsapp leaving is not big deal, the problem is the precedent left behind, once you let the government have 100% access to your messages, video comments, emails, say goodbye to try to organize a protest, they will use every message and comment against you

[@eshwargetenv1]

@@nishant54 you seem ill-informed about whats legal and illegal. the illegal rule that you are referring is literally the new IT law. instead of calling someone fool outright and embarrassing yourself like an idiot, make your argument better. you would do well.

[@eshwargetenv1]

@@_.F0X._ government still can do phone tapping. They have 100% access to your conversations, you've already said goodbye to your right to organize a protest, they are already using every audio call and comment against you.

[@nishant54]

@@eshwargetenv1 That rule in itself is illegal fool. Noone should follow it.

[@TheIndraprastha8]

You followed the rule or better you leave. In crisis we always do our best. 🙏

[@hargundeep1866]

Basically cracking down on government's dissenters

[@sng3005]

There is nothing called as privacy in internet.

[@devinpadaveedan6492]

By By whtsapp.. Nothing going to happen to indians. We will make our own..

[@hmingthansangavangchhia4913]

You seem to be uneducated like most BJP. Whatsapp is literally defending your privacy.

[@hmingthansangavangchhia4913]

You seem to be.... UN... ed. U... Ca. TED like most B....J---P.... Whatsapp is literally defending your right to privacy.

[@stephanieellison7834]

Then GET MOVING! Make It Happen I've been waiting several years for swadeshi replacements.

[@i.luv.diazepam_]

Gawar pehle to bye ki spelling dhang se likhle. Upar se Mark Zuckerberg tum sabke liye favor kar Raha hai by declining to remove end to end encryption. Privacy ki thordhi kaddar hai? Tum sab kya chahte ho? Ki hamara India China aur North Korea jaisa bann jaaye? No freedom of privacy seems appropriate to you?

[@xyz4597]

As a programmer, If I need to trace senders we must store data, and if data is stored there is a possibility to misuse of these datas n in case of data breach you can't blame anyone else and this is not just a privacy matter of any individual but it is also leads to national security issue bcoz the WhatsApp is used by almost every person in India and the world as well including military and other people involved in national security. Imagine, what if their data would be in hand of criminals, there and their family life will be in danger and it might also be the open door for other kind of crimes. So beware while making such kind of laws.

[@maxmueller5395]

Exactly, I don't know how such large no. Of people are so blindly following whatever the govt is doing. Indians don't want privacy??? Surely india may not be USA, but surely we can't build a smooth and so well organised app like whatsapp under few days. Data must be protected even if it's the govt asking it. Make the laws such that people have privacy, companies agree upon and benefits the national security too

[@sankarpajamale]

The idea is to ensure your party against people to find and put them in Jail. Also breaking privacy of people.

[@bhaskerchilaka753]

This is India, Indian govt is supreme whoever rule. If any organisation won’t agree the rules set, yes they should leave.

[@201288balaji]

I think this is the best opportunity for India to make one of its own. Infact they should make all major social media applications. We should abandon X or anything by Meta.

[@shaileshdabhi792]

What type of features you want in that app... I ask because I am coder and developer so if I make the app

[@201288balaji]

@@shaileshdabhi792 How about a unified platform for chatting and social media. That is, an app that has apps similar to WhatsApp, Instagram and FB under the same tool. Similar or more advanced features is relevant to time and we can’t really answer that with certainty.

[@krish7199]

@@shaileshdabhi792 Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V... lol

[@The.Curious]

Are you consuming only Indian content? Messaging only with fellow Indians? Or do you assume foreigners will migrate to your new Indian apps? How many? How quickly? I am a European based in Malaysia, connected with people from all around the world, including friends I recently made in Varanasi. Certainly happy to find them all in one place. Wouldn't join a platform that is not truly international...

[@201288balaji]

@@The.Curious It’s a good question. I think the assumption is to make it one stop for everything. When the west or Chinese can do, we can do too!

[@veenagpati]

Good for India

[@vy1134]

I wonder why can't we even create another WhatsApp competitor with such a market

[@user-rq5ju4ju6v]

This is an opportunity for Indian IT companies to come with new product…

[@kk_7o7]

Just too catch a few criminals how can govt. breach privacy of all the innocent citizens?!

[@shivananda8796]

If your family members were killed because of those few criminals, would you still say privacy is important??

[@num23end]

@@shivananda8796 You will become like CHINA, heavily censored. Communist India

[@AnimaShankar-vm7pi]

Innocent civilians will not have much to hide 😅

[@Srikaantck]

Government asked only to monitor suspicious activities only. WhatsApp selling all of our data to advertise companies, still they act like care... 😂😂😂

[@kk_7o7]

@@shivananda8796 By your logic darr darr ke raho, kabhi bhi kuchh bhi ho sakta hai to saare constitutional rights ko aag laga do. Bohot achchi baat hai govt. suspcious activiities ko track karna chahti hai but they have to find another way. Just imagine a situation where you are wrongfully accussed and put through a trial as a criminal even before anything is proven!

[@rashid4490]

Its obviously real culprits should be caught Even manipur and all happened because these it company don't want to help Block them for future

[@NishantThakur488]

Manipur happened because the government did not interfere as they did not want to lose support from majority community there.

[@rashid4490]

@NishantThakur488 they did But many rumour videos Fake videos spreaded Now govt. Want to take action then u don't want to support Because people only want blame govt. Because thats easiest to be done

[@neerajbhardwaj2784]

Messages which are encrypted, not stored?

[@aviraljanveja5155]

This case is like a natural barrier to giant tech dominance. As the solution for this is each nation having their own messaging service as per their own laws, regulations and national security requirements.

[@stephanieellison7834]

The huge catch with this is that then, communications between home and diaspora will be broken. SMS is a classic example of this - I can't message people in America without an American SIM card. Social media will no longer work globally. If you are in the West, how will you send send Auntie photos of your first baby born there? Email would be the only option left.

[@santoshdesai7703]

Great as soon as I type anything I get relevant ads from meta platforms so much so for that encryption explanation India should kick out these companies if they are not following law of the land 😊😊

[@kancharlasuryateja]

Have you ever tried researching why you get ads about the specific thing you're chatting..No. Because if you've done your research you won't be commenting this.. You get ads based on the keyboard activity.. try replacing the Google keyboard with any privacy based keyboard (if it exists) & yes, whatsapp chats are end to end encrypted, they can't read your chats.. if they were to compromise & give the encryption keys, say bye bye to privacy

[@dr.mortem6050]

Our government is really getting good in surveillance. Electoral bonds first, now this . Monopoly over information to one party. Thats great. Thats the move forward. Way to go BondJP

[@lawclerksanbar3790]

If they did, it's their loss. India is extremely quick to adapt to next best thing. TitTok was banned but it was replaced by youtube shots and insta reels and many more. India is like wild west, anything can happen in here and govt literally does, "just do it." People won't mind much about it. Indians so used to sudden change.

[@vivekra]

Tomorrow they might ask telecom companies to record all phone calls and maintain them for years.

[@coorgiand6820]

you believe a pvt company in america but not your own government...that too in case of criminal activity...so any country can use whatsapp to target your country...if you are worried abt data you have no problem togive every data in facebook but afraid of accountable indian govt..so u give power to foreign country to manipulate you

[@baldguy1964]

People are happy to install Alexa etc that records even your activities (acoustic) at your home, and use/sell them to make profits.

[@maxifire5452]

​@@coorgiand6820 In today's age we trust international brands than the current BJP govt that has no quams or morality. People who use pegasus will do even more with our private data. Modi shud stfu and mind his own business. Let them try to b communal thru some Indian product not thru famous brands

[@vidyaranyavijayapura1121]

​@coorgiand6820 yes I am,as our politicians sit next door. They r more dangerous than Zuckerberg.

[@xpointer483]

@@coorgiand6820Stop copy pasting your comment everywhere

[@lvsg118]

Ok, I remember something. Once upon a time there were no WhatsApp, no internet no car, plane nothing, at that time people were still a monkey.😂😂

[@kaviravlogs2500]

Once upon a time there was no technology but people lived peacefully And then someone start running after materialism and you can see how's is the condition in so called "developed countries"

[@Arvindchauhan-qv6gd]

​@@kaviravlogs2500 Bingo.. I just loved it...

[@stephanieellison7834]

Not here in India. They just found an intact 4-wheeled toy dated to thousands of years BCE. My European ancestors were still in caves and trying to figure out why a square doesn't roll on the ground smoothly.

[@saurabhbanerjee2998]

Technically, it will be super expensive to trace the originator of every message that gets forwarded thousands of times.

[@user-yi4ts3tr7w]

Lol these are hollow threats... They can't afford to exit a market like India

[@rajsekharchoudhury4681]

This doesn't need a law, it should be the social responsibility of social media. They must not be the driving factor of social unrest! We can afford not having WhatsApp but we cannot afford a social unrest because media is irresponsible!

[@Kanthavel.KV.Chennai.Bharat]

A huge country like India should have its own messaging app.... Indian people are very aware of the latest developments & people will change over to any new messaging service that replaces WhatsApp in a very short time..... The security of the nation is of paramount importance. ( It would particularly go a long way in securing internal security of the country ) If the government introduces & owns a similar messaging service, Aadhar Card, UPI, Government payments, schemes & subsidies could all be integrated to provide a seamless service - will result in a truly digitised India

[@bhatnitish]

Sure , leave it to the government to build a safe and secure app. Seems like a brilliant idea. Really, if privacy is not important, people can leave whatsapp and opt for services that are not secure. For everyone else that cares about privacy, I really hope whatsapp wins this case.

[@Kanthavel.KV.Chennai.Bharat]

@@bhatnitish A honest, patriotic citizen doesn't have any use of privacy..... Those who don't want anything to do with the government could opt for end to end encrypted messaging services using VPN

[@NishantThakur488]

@@Kanthavel.KV.Chennai.Bharat I have to disagree on that. Privacy is absolutely essential to a democracy, the government cannot be given such sweeping power to poke their nose in our personal lives as they simply cannot be trusted to not misuse it. Remember, even MISA was brought in on the pretext of "maintaining national security". Loss of privacy is especially bad for corporate and government whistleblowers that expose corruption. Currently, there are legal provisions to seize someone's phone, open it, and read the chats from the phone itself which is more than enough to assist in investigations. The status quo has worked, there is no need to bring in draconian laws that seemingly serve no purpose but give politicians more control over us.

[@stephanieellison7834]

Get going, dammit! I've been waiting for swadeshi replacements for several years now!

[@yurimorgan7460]

​@@Kanthavel.KV.Chennai.Bharat bhakt minds are filled with poop

[@realhumen]

If WhatsApp agreed to break encrypt. Govt will start using it against opposition and and independent journalist

[@samsubramanian8808]

If the political parties ( ruling and opposition) manage their IT cells, half fake news would stop😅

[@thechosenone1533]

Good on WhatsApp for standing up for their customers privacy against the tyrannical government. If only more companies valued their customers privacy more than money.