DON'T Trust Any Dating Coach Until You've Seen This

[@user-hr8uv6pk4y]

The first 100 programs are just warm up, bro

[@samuela9237]

😂😂😂😂

[@ladistar]

Bahahahahhahahahahha

[@DingDangg]

100%

[@Key_Di19]

Don’t forget to take a shower, because you’re a high value man 😂😢

[@Mrmysterious-dj1ov]

You have only seen 10% of my power 😏: dating coaches probably 😂

[@miketemper7599]

It’s so crazy lol, there was literally a dating coach ad right before this video

[@WheatWaffles]

I had a feeling this may happen to a few people

[@shinishini6047]

@@WheatWaffles Have you seen channel ''playing with fire''

[@WheatWaffles]

@@shinishini6047 Yes I have

[@shinishini6047]

@@WheatWaffles it's good channel and actually is helpful for now

[@jforgotten2620]

Yeah I got one too. It was talking about dm-ing onlyfans girls to get laid. Like wtf

[@taylorthefiend973]

Came from Coach Red Pill, fantastic channel bro

[@DrsJacksonn]

If Jigsaw was real, he'd def be capturing a lot of these dating coach salesmen.

[@felipenascimento1964]

Lol

[@alonsoquijano9555]

He would be capturing lots of Chads. And Chad-hunters.

[@haza123b4]

*His wife was not bad though.*

[@olliep8117]

LOL. Hello Chad. It's time to play a game. And then some sick contraption where they get smashed into a wall over and over, as payback in Jigsaw's mind for all the times they kept banging on about the wall for women. You've jus given them their next film idea - Saw 8 - PUA Edition.

[@mariobaratti2985]

"Hi Todd I want to do a *GAME* with you. If you can't attract that woman before the timer goes out your nuts will explode" (He can't, he's a 5)

[@aussiemadz3119]

I just came from watching a red pill channel I saw bunch of guys talking about how they are the prize I took one look at their profile pics and most of those guys are subpar,its not about acting like you are the shit you have to be the shit period.

[@HadesHatredEdge]

Exactly. It doesn't what anyone says, it's how you get treated. If women are just walking you by showing you indifference, then you are not the prize. They can think they're the prize but who will take a bullet for them like a man would for a woman? Who would deem their presence in their home as enough like men do with a woman? What woman is going to try to impress them like many men do for women? Actions speak louder than words.

[@aussiemadz3119]

@@HadesHatredEdge They are truly delusional talking about being the prize with inferior genetics lol

[@yinyangjpy6749]

@@aussiemadz3119 this ideology breeds narcissism in men

[@ponternal]

The Redpill is the new Bluepill

[@aussiemadz3119]

@@yinyangjpy6749 yeah man it really fucks how you view of women I was redpilled at some point and I was so disgusted with women I couldnt see eye to eye with my own sisters so glad I stopped watching that garbage,pure narcissism

[@qinawiqinawi5341]

Remember guys when doing pua every "no " brings you closer to a "yes". Until you arrested and given a 3 year sentence like that Scottish PUA was.

[@SVR1968]

I remember that guy, wasn’t he the Arab looking dude?(he was born in Scotland), who got a 2 or 3 year prison sentence for cold approaching some women in Glasgow? He (the Scottish PUA), must have done something else (like stalking or attempted s€xual assault), in order to get a prison sentence, you’re not going to be sent to jail just for cold approaching a woman.

[@qinawiqinawi5341]

@@SVR1968 This guy was sent to jail for staring at a woman. www.smh.com.au/world/man-convicted-for-staring-at-woman-20080419-2774.html

[@SVR1968]

@@qinawiqinawi5341 Thanks for that, men these days are better off paying a professional (ie.a lady of the night), rather than dealing with a civilian w.Oman.

[@harsh3948]

@Thanos prison is actually better, he's lucky he didn't get lynched to death

[@andypie7967]

That guy wasnt Scottish. He was an arab

[@riceball1232]

I personally know many couples who are both sub fives (like 3s or 4s) in happy relationships/ marriages, but all of them met in “warm” environments, mostly schools. The thing about them is they pair up quite early in their lives and genuinely see their partners as attractive. So there’s still hope for the sub five men, if they’re not too picky about who they date

[@Fighter4Street]

Exactly, what I found is that this pick up artist stuff is warp your mind into thinking you can do better when you can't. I'm single now because of this, I thought I could do better but I just don't have the genetics.

[@andikrause399]

There is a reason why men can't change their hair, height, face and D-inches. These physical traits are the most important traits to attract women. That's why all the scam artist coaches talk about "putting hard work in" and change your mindset and all that bs because those are things you can't measure or give an objecitive opinion about. Don't listen to dating coaches saying every woman has a different taste, that's BS. If that was true men wouldn't struggle with women, period. Sure some women might not like Jason Momoa or young Brad Pitt but the majority does and therefore those men are objectively speaking attractive.

[@georgiosdoumas2446]

Yeah, the difference in taste is among "I like blond men like Brand Pitt" , "but I like the other type of men like Keanu reeves / Jony depp "

[@andikrause399]

@Fire Starter So?

[@andikrause399]

@Fire Starter lol Ok, got it, my bad. Sometimes guys write comments like yours and are like "but I know one woman that doesn't like Brad Pitt so you are wrong" and they are not being sarcastic, so their intentions are not clear. ^^

[@thinix396]

You also can't change your race lol

[@amitkundu8160]

pua's gonna go homeless by you. dude you make very clear, cutthroat and informative videos. good luck.

[@CGenius]

And it is logical and can be proven

[@zay_gzs5635]

Exactly I follow some red pill coaches not necessarily dating coaches I don’t pay anything but this guy Darius M was on a lifestream talking to this guy and the guy who he was talking to literally got advice from a dating coach saying he should go homeless go to Las Vegas and approach as many women as he can he’s literally approach 5000 females guess how many he got with four a couple single mothers and fat bitches🤦🏾‍♂️ Self improvement is the best way

[@jamesmoore3624]

Good because I was brainwashed by Rsd for many years.... They said looks don't matter and I believed that crap. Until I befriended a male model and saw the attention he was getting, I realized that looks do matter.

[@Magicpickle5]

It's important to note that PUA is such an effective scam simply because it's not *complete* scam. They will teach you some basic social skills, game, etc. that can be effective depending on your looks, and that's why PUA never goes away. If their package of "secrets" were truly a total scam, it would've died years ago. No, it's more insidious than that: it's a half-scam.

[@SirAuron777]

Yeah it’s seen as ground breaking to guys who don’t have good social skills or experience. “I just have to be confident while approaching!” Lol

[@spasmicwaves]

They make exaggerated claims like how you can have the ability to have any women, so they charge based on that. The average weekend boot camp is like 3k.

[@rickjames1240]

​@@spasmicwaves It amazes me guys go to boot camps expecting to have a wand magically make them better with women. One day(or even weeks of training) doing anything is not going to change anything. It took me a month to go from a high pitched voice to sounding like a man. That fix is far better than a pua boot camp and its free. All I did was hum a low note 10 minutes a day for a month straight. Real change takes time. Voice changes such for a monotone voice, up talk(where you end sentences going up in pitch), and fixing a high pitched voice is going to get you better results than any amount of time spent socializing in my opinion. If you have unattractive qualities or attributes you have to fix them intentionally. If you are boring no amount of socializing is going to make you less boring in my observations and experience. You have to putt effort into being interesting and stimulating. Just talking does little. I remember watching a video where an awkward Asian guy spent like 7 grand or something crazy like that on pua boot camps. He made absolutely no progress and you could tell. People think they are going to reach THE NEXT LEVEL, when in reality it is a money grab for desperate guys. I'm so glad I haven't wasted a dollar on any dating advice.

[@nurtaytulegenov7431]

It's more because of the customers variety, I think. Not every 10/10 guy or normie is free from cruelty of our world, in other words, they can have it easier, but not saved from failure. Those broken customers can get what they lack, while already owning the nature part. Those then become "shining example" of course effectiveness, while all he had to do is learn to take a bath, clean teeth and don't wear rags he found in Walmart dumpster

[@pocnit]

I think you're wrong. Financial scams have been around since forever, and people still believe a video of a smiling guy with 3 women with huge tita in the background telling them that they just gotta buy their £999 course. You could summarize the positive value of pick up as "be more social so you can play the numbers game more". I could charge £5000 a week to take guys out 7 days a week and sure, they'll get laid with some half drunken horny party girl once in a while so I guess now they got "game".

[@adrianboyddodd8007]

It is true that you should not pedestalize women, but not because it will increase your chances with them. It is just better for you mental health.

[@mortizmortiz]

Dating coaches appeared as a result of women not needing a man any longer.

[@Placido777]

underrated comment

[@nathanchilton8917]

great point

[@mortizmortiz]

@@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork what was that myth about?

[@mortizmortiz]

@@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork l see. That's maybe what have happened to men.

[@guillonremi5668]

If men are gas, then tinder is like the innovation that made electric cars the norm. PUA/ dating coaches would then be like salesmen trying to convince women that oldschool cars were kinda cool, like pls still use them (men) Don't know if this makes sense

[@Nick_Taylor.]

I'm not a Subfive, but I did regretfully shell out $3,500 on a dating program. In the "interview," I asked if he'd be able to help me understand why certain techniques work. But as soon as I became a registered student, he answered my question with: "stop asking questions; start taking action!" I knew I'd just been conned.

[@dwightmanne]

Bruh. I could help you and it won't cost thousands of dollars

[@Key_Di19]

For 3500$ you could stay several days with a 6’0 - stewardess in a five-star hotel and enjoy your delicious meals🤦‍♂️😂 sorry buddy

[@kobab4270]

Well, that was great content. Guess I’ll have to endure another 7 days of impatiently waiting for the next Wheat Waffles upload now.

[@E_-_-]

Blackpill really is the solution. If I'd had braces and my jaw/face fixed, I wouldn't be 32 and contemplating to get braces and have my jaw/face fixed (if that's even possible). I wish my parents were blackpilled enough to realize how shitty my life would be with this face. Nobody ever mentioned relationships in my family, so I grew up bluepilled thanks to the liberal european education system and hollybergwood. All that tripe led me to believe that I just had to play guitar and be a cool guy to get a girlfriend. When smartphones came out I realized how ugly I really was and immediately quit playing music. (Music is only for pretty people)

[@SVR1968]

@E• I’m sorry to hear that you have no luck with the ladies (not your fault), as I’m in the same boat, but please don’t stop playing the guitar (I’ve been playing since Feb 2016 as an older beginner), keep playing, music is one of the best anti-depressants.

[@ponternal]

You didnt have to quit music if you truly enjoyed it, you just shouldnt have expected it to get you a girl.

[@jkshallinheritearth3883]

@@ponternal yeah just keep grinding without expectation of paycheck (at least for survival)

[@ponternal]

@@jkshallinheritearth3883 ?

[@grind75hoursaweekjusttoget48]

You dont have any confidence bro

[@iMmunashe]

Wheat Waffles does not miss! 🎯🎯 I always found it funny how none of these so called "dating coaches" have NO RECEIPTS 📃. None of them EVER have any evidence of ever having attracted nor kept any of the baddies they're "teaching" you to attract. RIP to the poor souls who fall for their scams, you have my condolences 🙏🏾

[@katobytes]

What you said at the end there is especially salient. People need to take note of the glaring contradictions in the redpill method. They will advise you to approach every women you find remotely attractive and to reconstruct your personality, but also say to not put "women on a pedestal" or to focus on what you're doing already. It's complete bullshit.

[@minzblatt]

A little late reply, but I think you are in wrong here. Social phobia is a real thing. And exposition is basically the best you can do to get rid of most of your irrational phobias and anxieties, basically what's behavioral therapy been doing for decades. If you think of the concept of pedastalizing women, there is the one literal meaning of valuing them too highly, which we all should agree is wrong either way, but what's more relevant here is the other meaning, that of real or perceived difference of SMV to those "Hot babes" which provokes the approach anxiety. So, no matter what your own SMV is, social anxieties are a real issue in general and to break any irrational fear exposition is much needed. But f those puas. You can do it on your own by challenging yourself. Especially with friends.

[@viharsarok]

The fundamental paradox of red pill is that they tell you not to pedestalize women but also tell you to remodel your life based on their preferences.

[@GGWP-nx3kn]

It makes me laugh that people who have 0 results IRL think that paying other men to somehow achieve more success is any different than paying for boosts on dating apps. 🖐😂 News flash: men who clean up don't need to boost themselves up artificially!! It's just that now more women are going to swipe left on you! 🖐😂

[@leehoven5687]

Not 100% correct. Tinder for example shadow bans you after a while if your using the free version. They want you to buy the full Version.

[@schlomogoldstein9480]

@@leehoven5687 if your not attractive tinder is pointless

[@leehoven5687]

@@schlomogoldstein9480 Yeah but if your average its a 100% scam

[@Takaroku.]

@@leehoven5687 I remember I was banned for no reason, no explanation even after asking. I think I hit on a girl and she reported. So much for game/personality broooo

[@AZITHEMLGPRO]

@@leehoven5687 They hid my account for not being active. Basically I maxed out on not getting any potential matches 🥲

[@batdulamsaihandorj7777]

Rollo tomassi is a good guy. He just reviews news story and gives man a good advice with indepth sociological and psychological theories. He doesnt sell cringe courses just books with good studies and insight

[@HusseinAbdirahman]

I agree

[@Rmalikk]

Agreed. He’s the only one I’d listen to

[@speedgnom]

I really like how Black pill channels expose PUA's. Keep up the good work.

[@Ogrem]

Save money on dating bull$hit, buy toys instead, travel, invest in yourself. Truth is, that dating is easy, effortless really, when people want to date each other. No training or tricks are needed.

[@howmathematicianscreatemat9226]

Well, very few people are masters of communication naturally. It must be learned. Reading between the lines is an abstract social art.

[@heikorudi6105]

@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 abstract social art and depends on your overall intelligence

[@Mrmysterious-dj1ov]

These guys take advantage of men weakness are same those girl who take advantage just different way but both just to suck money 💰 out them it’s pathetic

[@chillinlee]

I'm in that sub set of guys who actually did benefit from a PUA weekend boot camp. But I had already looksmaxxed and gymmaxxed by then. You need to have reached a minimum looks level (at least a 5, but realistically at least 6). Yet, on the days where I don't take care of my looks and go out looking bad, no amount of game will overcome bad looks. Black pill comes before Red pill. Wheat Waffles is correct, yet again.

[@Prescotmills8732]

Point of correction: you should NOT buy their programs but you should listen to their FREE videos. Putting your self first and not pedestalizing women are very legit points for all men especially 5+ men. No matter how good looking your face is, you will get cucked if you pedestalize women and don't put yourself first. Women don't respect simps even if you're model tier attractive.

[@IK47-d2l]

true!

[@grumblesa10]

Their free videos are the mouth of the funnel. SOME basic advice you can find anywhere with a search on "sociology of dating" or similar.

[@Mrmysterious-dj1ov]

There grain of truth in pit of lies 😂😮

[@menirumaltis1755]

You are by far the best newcomer bp channel. Your way of speaking, linear and straight forward explaining of points and your attempt of debunking all this cringy bluepill channels...love you for that with a passion (nohomo). I also want to mention your editing style is quite unique and really good. Keep it this way...already waiting for your next upload. 👍

[@NickNewbucks]

I can’t speak for all the dating coaches but for AMS he does teach game, confidence, abundance mindset, not pedestaling women, and focusing on your mission. These things are important. They increase your chances.

[@TheChamp1971]

Actually, those people who are successful and leave after Stage 2 aren't totally useless to the dating coaches because now they can be used as testimonials.

[@Damian-dr9ty]

In some cases, puas get people who leave Stage 2 to become addicted by the lifestyle of the pua who they listen because the „Stage 2 outbreakers“ get affected or involved by the lifestyle, worldview and rituals of this Pua Guys, so they could think that living a life without these coaches is „not at this level of emotional and sexual adventure“ they have experienced in the live coachings or groups. Certain experiences combined with speciak feelings and emotions have been anchored in their heads and everytime they were making their own thing , they have no fun. Classical conditioning. It all depends how deep the coach determines the connection between the client.

[@user-ju6zx3rm8d]

best Blackpill channel ngl. hope you're gonna back it up to alt platforms asap, such as Odysee and PeerTube

[@riproar11]

I went to a free game seminar and the funny part was seeing so many dorky guys wearing the "peacock" clothing they read about from the book "The Game". A short, nerdy-looking bald guy wore a fluffy faux fur coat. They tried hard to recruit guys to join their $1000 boot camp.

[@Mrmysterious-dj1ov]

Spray crap 💩 gold dose not make the crap more value able🥠

[@vincelorino4394]

I kind of look at the red pill * not dating coaches* as a filter for black pill. As face and lms would say. " theres alot of normies and Chad-lights who THINK that theyre incel or black pill when they arent because theyve faced rejection based on something other than looks"

[@barbellsamurai8014]

true, lots of 'tourists' drop into fringe communities

[@vincelorino4394]

@@barbellsamurai8014 true , but to be fair ; some are merely mis- * or completely under- * -informed. But yeah. If anything , I'd imagine * although I dont have stats or research ; just a hunch * that the incel community * tourism not included * would be like the opposite reflection of Chad community. Most guys hover somewhere between 4-7 and then you get the fringe-guys who are -4 or +7

[@Michael-gi5th]

True there are lots of reasons why women reject but for sub 5s it's mainly due to looks not meeting their standard

[@strongest32]

but man.. the statement contradicts itself.. "they have faced rejection based on something other than looks" then looks is not deterministic. there are other subjects to improve.

[@vincelorino4394]

@@strongest32 face and wheat have talked about this ; you can potentially BE "good enough" on the looks scale * not Chad , but mid-normie* , but then say you have asburgers or horrifically bad social skills = you'll get interest UNTIL you open your mouth. Picture your personal " ideal woman" , but shes completely insufferable on a personal level. Sure , you're "attracted" initially , but...

[@thebxx724]

Wish I had saw this video back in college, it would have saved me time and money. You're absolutely right, PUA and dating coaches are a pure scam. You're better off working on getting your money right.

[@SurfbyShootin]

The 2005 template, what makes people want to throw away their money like that. You'd think multinational corporations would still be using it XD

[@sakutaazusagawa208]

Inb4 tails comes here trying to call him a scamster

[@WordBearer48]

Who's tails?

[@andikrause399]

I think he either deleted or made his videos private for some reason

[@copiumoverdoser]

tails got both channels nuked looks like, that or he deleted it himself

[@sakutaazusagawa208]

@@copiumoverdoser his channel is still showing, although all his videos are gone

[@keysersoze657]

All the money some people spend on dating courses and shite like that could be put towards surgery or something that could actually change their appearance and make substantial changes to their attractiveness

[@leonardo2108]

Surgery is not advanced enough

[@Gian_sas]

To be honest surgery looks worse most of the times. It is very noticeable and your face doesn't look natural at all.

[@keysersoze657]

@@Gian_sas You'd be surprised with what some surgeries can do. You only say it looks unnatural because all these celebs that get a botched job or ones that are really over the top. A good surgeon will make you looks natural.

[@Gian_sas]

@@keysersoze657 Well I only like nose surgeries because every other body part just looks weird when modified, but yes I only saw some celebrities doing that stuff.

[@keysersoze657]

@@Gian_sas Jaw surgeries can be done quite well too. And some eye surgeries.

[@CARPETMAN6666]

Honestly I can't believe anybody really Falls for this stuff. Although if people didn't fall for scams they wouldn't exist.

[@nathanchilton8917]

I mean Nigerian prince is still a thing in 2021...a sucker is born every minute amirite

[@ladistar]

@@nathanchilton8917 bahahahahah I can’t believe that is still a thing

[@aba22125]

A f*ck ton of people fall for this, don't be naive

[@johndb1860]

False hope is a powerful drug.

[@truthofbeingignominious610]

That's why the blackpill should become Mainstream! ( ik, that it will never happen, because most guys love to cope and don't want to hear the truth) Would be still a big success for every Blackpill Channel, if they can bring at least every subfive dude to the blackpill by watching their content and abandon this ER Creators who rip them off and traumatise them!

[@DaaWood998]

It will never go mainstream, because it simply doesn't sell well. The only people who can put their ads on blackpill videos are plastic surgery clinics.

[@gueillascream1345]

The truth is very easy to recognize. Just watch how well or badly something sells. The latter is always the truth

[@icecactus11]

More people should be redpilled not everyone can handle the blackpill

[@truthofbeingignominious610]

@@icecactus11 The blackpill is basically the redpill before it got infiltrated by scam coaches

[@icecactus11]

@@truthofbeingignominious610 I know I’d rather have men delusional with what Rollo says rather than be ultra based blackpill. Let’s keep it real on sub 5’s need the ultra based blackpill. As it right now. In five years we will all need the blackpill.

[@TheAyatollahofNofappollah]

A guy spoke on a livestream with MGTOW Dictionary and the crew.. His experience with Jon MLD followed this 3 step sequence exactly!

[@Krist_Mal008]

Believe me, i can GUARNTEE YOU will NEVER come across to such an extent of pure honesty and authencity and delivering nothing but REALITY. go search up the whole youtube channels & videos and i can bet you WILL NOT FIND ANY. not even closer to this channel

[@izzydawiz7486]

Wheat waffles your channel is of great help. Although I must admit I am a deep red 💊 believer (meaning black and red combined). Game only goes so far and that's the same for looks. Still, I find it pretty amazing how you point out these truths.

[@user-nv6jv1rz4z]

Is john anthony lifestyle a scam?

[@bryantjamieson8255]

Looks like the Blackpill has run its course, basically every issue has been covered and all the knowledge is out there. We are now in a place where we are talking about the same thing over and over again, you even see daily blackpill video uploads take a nosedive in recent months. It was a fun ride boyos.

[@andikrause399]

no it just started dude 99% of all men are not even red pilled let alone black pilled lol

[@mikesantos011]

Agreed, it’s probably going to loop back to MSTOW type content

[@LARK-ht7kd]

Interesting

[@sausage4mash]

there is a lot of millage in biological determinism

[@someonesomeone25]

There is a stage 2. What to do after you've swallowed the pill.

[@iansmith4924]

Dude I've done it. Personally I've tried. Take your time and build yourself up. Make yourself the better product. I've done so much game and quite honestly she'll be into you or she won't. People are gonna hate. But all this is true.

[@anisothmen3712]

People tell me to be confident and nice talker and look people in the eyes . Well if I were sexy I'd be the proudest , loudest , gaziest man around , believe me . Confidence is not innate , it's a result of positive feed back

[@NickNewbucks]

Focusing on your purpose and mission is important cause you’ll make more money and have a better life and things to offer. When you’re successful that boosts your confidence. When you have more confidence you’ll approach women more often. If you approach (even if you’re ugly) you have a chance. If you don’t approach at all, you have no chance.

[@OpenTheirEyes]

YEs, the dating coach and attraction scams plain don't work.

[@trolletroller5909]

Wheat Waffles, can you make a video reviewing some r/tinder threads where some guys are posting their tinder profile and asking what's going wrong and why they can't get matches. The bluepill comments are stunning and there is much cringe going on in them that it's hard to read. For example there is this 5'9 skinny guy who had only dozen of matches in couple of years and no dates at all is asking what's up. And there is this girl saying "Your pics are pretty average and forgettable. ". Yea more likely his frame and face are forgettable af.

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

I remember paying for a really expensive "get your ex back" package when I was a teen... It cost me a months worth of pay... It's embarrassing, really. It did fuck all to help and the guy who wrote it use "Skyrim" as an example in one of his analogies, but he called it "sky rim". Like, if you can't get a name of a popular game right, why the fuck would I trust any further advice, if you are so out of touch with reality?

[@grind75hoursaweekjusttoget48]

Lmao thank you for sharing that pathetic story. It took alot of courafe

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

@@grind75hoursaweekjusttoget48 courage*

[@charlesvictoria6800]

The funniest pitch from the consultation is “this program is for only the people dedicated to change. What really is 3k worth to you?” 😆

[@Mrmysterious-dj1ov]

Sounds like a scam to me 😂

[@charlesvictoria6800]

@@Mrmysterious-dj1ov no cap bro. “Consultant” was hella pressure tacting me when I had the hunch of backing out. Felt like I was in a toxic relationship hahaha

[@Fred-zt5ky]

I did purchase one of these programs a couple years ago. I paid around $140 for it, so I don’t think the price was outrageous when comparing to the competition. At that time, the coach had advertised this program as being the ultimate solution to dating, containing all possible secrets. No more than one year later, the same coach released another program, again marketed as being the ultimate solution. I didn’t buy that one though, and I never bought any other such program. But I’m sure many desperate guys are buying each year the newest program, always advertised as being the ultimate product. Anyways that was just my experience, and it definitely resonates with what is said in the video. Whatever, everybody’s just trying to make money, that’s nothing new…

[@ayzeecns5561]

i agree with most of what you said except the end part, a lot of those coaches especially AMS have hundreds of videos on youtube about being on your purpose, holding frame etc and they don’t charge anything for it, the most they ever charge is a subscription fee for thete patreon where you can ask questions and stuff, and it’s roughly $10 a month

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

when the rabbit screams the fox comes a running... but not to help

[@ponternal]

Blackpill channels never try to sell you something

[@tiagopereira6411]

They sell you suicide depression

[@theauthenticcanadian131]

@@tiagopereira6411 lol, it's your thinking cool dude. I'm an average looking chadlite guy and I think looks do matter and being men of value we can invest in ourselves whether it is having a fit body, attractive facial properties, a sports car and a good job/business.

[@theauthenticcanadian131]

Become successful and sleep with as many women as you want. If nothing works the escorts are always there. 😉

[@addj7093]

They sell you ideas

[@Time4aKiss]

I think you should add Skinny/weak/disabled under the V section of SUBFIVE. So like V = old, skinny, weak, disabled

[@SirAuron777]

Imagine a channel comes out that’s completely opposite of yours called PUA Pancakes Lmao

[@oldskoolordie]

Pop tarts red pill sparta

[@Catchcookie]

That's why Guys should leanmax. Jaw is law

[@nate6430]

Losing fat is the number 1 thing men should do to looksmaxxx for sure. However, you need to have a decent jaw/chin in the first place. There is no gym for your face.

[@nathanchilton8917]

eye area > all. you can have everything else but terrible eyes? pointless

[@mikesantos011]

Getting to 10-12% bodyfat is the only thing that ever demonstrably helped me to get women.

[@SPACEDOUT19]

@@mikesantos011risking your health for women

[@g-man-innermaster]

Wow, Great Video and so true. Following your 80/20 rule is the right way to go for a SUBFIVE Man. The RedPill coaches like their way of income creating, because in their expensive courses they will never be confronted with a Chad or Tyrone . In real life a Chad will tell a Subfive the Hard trueth, how he is picking up , without ever used any technique consciousness. Dating Coaches feel strong, because they are feeding with low value content their weak and vulnerable Clients.

[@pusico6555]

I think FREE video on dating coach KZbin will ve MORE THAN ENOUGH for you to actually get results if you're good looking

[@dennismorneau9016]

I used to be a PUA for years. It doesn’t work.

[@SPACEDOUT19]

just be tall handsome and normal. boom.

[@Mrmysterious-dj1ov]

Desperation is what drive people make bad choices 😮😢

[@TheStevensvd]

The only one I respect is Steph is cold cuz he said many times In different videos that if you’re ugly, his content won’t work

[@thejaebeing]

Yep... Just got an ad from "Endless Options" when watching this video 😂

[@michaelhajek4753]

It’s same as financial programs.

[@fmaylinch]

What you say at 9:15 can be looked another way: if a coach properly teaches you all those things, he has the right to ask for a good amount of money, since those points that you list are highly important and very difficult to achieve. Whether a specific coach is legit or not is another story. Of course, most will be bullshit. Like in any business that proves to be profitable, there will always be scammers who want to take advantage. In my opinion, one of the most useful resources on the matter is the book Game by Roosh V. It's full of tips, a great value for what it costs. And if you listen to the audio book you'll also laugh quite a bit, when he plays the voice of the girl in the dialogues. :) Btw, I also found your channel from coach red pill. I guess you'll get a bunch of new subscribers thanks to him commenting about you. :) I also highly recommend coach red pill. The CRP videos and that Roosh V Game book are the two things that I constantly recommend to friends.

[@Locke350]

At least Roosh V didn’t charge hundreds off his book.

[@Hami2h93]

I just watched half your videos, you deserve more subs for spreading the truth. The only thing that i don't agree in blackpill is the rope mentality of lot of guys If your 20, just make money till ur 25 and then get surgery (u can get 50 to 75k which is enough for DJS and more surgery) Everyone can be 5/10 with 1/2 surgery (maybe few exeption) Thx for exposing the shitty redpill

[@penguin2203]

Imagine checking all the sub five boxes

[@21stCenturySpaceOdyssey]

This appears to be the same model people like Tony Robbins use. The secret to Tony's success has less to do with him, and more to do with his clients are willing to part their money in exchange for having feels-good rhetoric blown up their asses.

[@TheSniperMAJOR]

Just a question: How are you different from the dating coaches, especially in the business model aspect you highlighted? You fulfill supply, demand and repeating - with your face ratings and YT videos. I'm not saying that as a negative, having bought a FR myself, but why do you critique someone so harshly while following in similar footsteps?

[@sterlingsilver5937]

Thank you for taking the time to collect this information and share it. I don't agree with all of the philosophies and a black pill Community but I like how much of an emphasis is placed on reality. Thank you for being realistic and objective in your presentation. Delusions are much more comfortable than facing harsh realities but there are consequences to living in delusion. Thank you for discouraging men from living with unrealistic expectations and for encouraging us to go for what makes sense.

[@patrickwieber102]

Thanks great information dont let dating coaches keep us stupid anymore

[@danielrolle7621]

The content from these popular channels is so generalized. They get views because they’re easy to understand and they sell hope, especially to young guys who don’t know any better.

[@ercolearmani6186]

The truth shall set you free

[@vladivf]

I know of one couch that teaches NoFap among other things. I respect him for that. His advice is original and helpful. He may not be 100% honest but overall he's doing a good job. And it's worth mentioning that most men's problems with women disappear when they get seriously into NoFap.

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

There need to be government regulations that bar these men from making the claims about their product, if they cannot actually substantiate the claims they make with actual empirical evidence. In any other sector of the economy, this would be fraud and they could be sued.

[@icecactus11]

Stop. If people buy it they’re dumb stop bringing in the government it’s completely unnecessary and somehow some way they will mess it up.

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

@@icecactus11 Stop being a corporate shill. Regulations work.

[@metasequoia3097]

@@icecactus11 But fraud is actually fucking illegal and would warrant interference by law.

[@chadtomriddle4786]

The best advice for spending money is dont: invest to make more or travel with it on the occasion. Embarrassing yourself is one painful way to lose money.

[@jarrodm9299]

Good video with great points too.

[@lookatcha]

I love and respect your honesty my friend !

[@randomstupiddude3565]

Also apply to most money coach If you fail then you didn't work hard enough/you made some stupid mistakes If you succeed then you'll be another promotion for that coach reputation - but they won't talk about how most of the people who go in will fails

[@drewyetti]

Great analysis on these PUA scammers and dating roaches as I don’t think highly of them for similar reasons as you have pointed out.

[@Dave4000]

Waste a fortune on their dating programme and still end up with nothing.

[@logan4179]

I really appreciate this kind of video. We honestly need to take this fight straight to the pickup community.

[@hjackson.92]

I don't consider grifters - which is what "dating" coaches are, let's keep it 150 here - to be a part of the red pill community. And so far, Coach Red Pill is right about you - after watching a couple of videos you clearly stand out from other black pill channels I tune into from time to time.

[@hjackson.92]

@Profile picture And what does that question have to do with anything?

[@JimmyBoosterCrate]

@Can you see the pain in my eyes? as you can tell, he is

[@thetruthhurts9750]

Genetics is everything. Even the one thing in the subfive that you control "fat" is influenced by your Genetics. Some people gain weight really easy and therefore have to work really hard to stay in shape. If I had to constantly exercise and watch what I ate I would be overweight also.

[@thedarkestknight8381]

Lol I love the acronym for subfive very creative

[@ADNvss]

I'm literally eating waffles in the dark. Bulking the fuck up !

[@fucktheilluminati502]

Howl and sophie!

[@ADNvss]

@@fucktheilluminati502 yes :)

[@KAMIL5281]

I'm from Poland and our "coaches" behave the same way you said

[@KurokamiNajimi]

Do you think it is impossible to be an 8/10 at 5’7

[@KurokamiNajimi]

@Endless Dreamz By young do you mean 13-17 or 18-35

[@zak6093]

1 - Be good looking. 2 - Be yourself.

[@IK47-d2l]

All so called "dating coaches" are scammers. I feel sorry for people who fall for them!

[@jakupwhite1516]

I have the greatest coaching advice you'll ever hear if you're an average guy. Get a passport, go to Southeast Asia or Latin America where you're SMV is instantly raised because of your M and S. If you're a regular looking guy you can get a good looking girl trust me!

[@stronzo5000]

PUA is just like a Robert Kiyosaki style invesment property seminar scam

[@werneraubricht985]

I enjoyed the first 5 minutes of this video

[@haitamvfxer]

It's funny that you displayed AMS icon, cause he already mentioned in his videos that if you are a sub 5, gaming model ain't built for you.

[@OpenTheirEyes]

Dude, just be aware that Coach Red Pill just did a response video regarding one of your videos on friend zoning.

[@genozidfejer7484]

Great video content. Thank you :)

[@keeseagainsttheworld2106]

Donovan sharpe immediately came to mind hearing this...but now it's mostly E-books they try & pedal off..

[@proletariatpashka1956]

Clickbait to fight clickbait. I like it

[@manny3095]

Most game information is free anyways. All the stuff taught game from forums

[@TheChamp1971]

Does this also go for John Anthony Lifestyle?

[@dennismorneau9016]

I just saw a Versace ad with Chads and Stacies.

[@nemonemo8430]

Hey Mr Waffles, could you make a video on girls dating disabled men? there are a couple of channels that are entirely based on this, one that I can remember is "Sabia and Loren" he got cut in half while he was working, and the gf he had before that, is still with him, they seem happy together though you never know what´s really happening behind the videos, I am not hating on the guy, I wish him the best life he can get, I just can´t help but think with my blackpilled mind, what is really going on? and the other factor why I think this needs to be addressed, is because normies and even some PUA coaches usually use this as an example to help the normie masses cope, "if he can do it then why can´t you?" or "you see? looks don´t matter and girls can love all sorts of guys", keep in mind the guy is a normie in the face.

[@pocnit]

I mean, quite a few people win scratchcards in the UK every week. But you wouldn't factor that in when you plan your life, even if you buy scratchcards every week. There are also women with rare fetishes and what not, who might be hot but have weird and rare preferences - old men, hairy men, serial killers, skinny nerds and what not. Again, not really reliable. I do think that the long tail(i.e. going for a very narrow niche) can be a great way of doing things, but you'll have a FAR smaller pool of women and you might be waiting for a long time.

[@Aman1012]

My issue is with Sub5 PUA coaches targeting others like them to exploit. Prominent in London.

[@evernew23]

If your ugly you are already rejected before you open your mouth, on the other hand Chad can open In Klingon and still be successful

[@66kaisersoza]

Goes both ways chap. Ive rejected plenty of nice girls because their looks arent adequate

[@dubiouslifeform8259]

@@66kaisersoza true but most men will atleast give less attractive women a chance

[@yuisimp3392]

@@dubiouslifeform8259 I mean men usuallu choose who they are gonna approach and a lot of unnatractive women dont get approached at all in a party like situation. I mean usually at least 1 guy I guess so she doesnt have that many options also.